| bleb | does 18.04 ship with lxqt, or lxde? | 00:55 |
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| wxl | lxde | 00:55 |
| bleb | k thanks | 00:57 |
| Mead | can anyone help me diagnose a lubuntu install that stopped booting? I've been running it off an SD card it quit booting yesterday. The system seems fine, I can access the bios, and the thumb drive with the bootloader seems to work fine. But it freezes up when lubuntu starts booting. | 07:27 |
| Mead | did lubuntu change gui that is used in the lts and the current 18.10? | 10:46 |
| kc2bez | Lubuntu 18.04 is the LTS and it uses lxde. The current 18.10 uses LXQt. | 10:49 |
| Mead | so that is why it look pretty different | 10:58 |
| Mead | Somehow allowing an update messed up my 18.04 install, and I'm trying to fix it. Downloaded a fresh copy of 18.10 to boot live from a USB stick and the difference in the GUI is bugging me. | 11:04 |
| kc2bez | 18.04 is still available for download as well. | 11:05 |
| kc2bez | That being said LXQt will be the desktop environment for Lubuntu going forward. There is much more upstream development being done on it. | 11:07 |
| Mead | why the change? | 11:08 |
| kc2bez | This blog post explains why Lubuntu made a change https://lubuntu.me/taking-a-new-direction/ | 11:12 |
| kc2bez | The TL;DR is most of the lxde developers have moved to LXQt. They feel it will be a better performing base. | 11:14 |
| Mead | that post only mentions lxqt at the end | 11:18 |
| Mead | well either way, I barely got use the look and feel of LXDE over the last few months. Changing to something else creates a learning curve I'm not looking for. | 11:21 |
| kc2bez | 18.04 is a LTS release so we are supporting both environments, it isn't necessary to change if you don't want to. | 11:24 |
| Mead | is the 18.04 image linked on the website updated with all the patches and fixes? | 11:25 |
| Mead | hum... there appears to be lubuntu.me and lubuntu.net are both legit? | 11:26 |
| kc2bez | Lubuntu.me is the official site. | 11:26 |
| kc2bez | The 18.04 image is the latest point release. | 11:27 |
| Mead | so what is the lubuntu.net site? | 11:29 |
| Mead | seems sorta shady, google even lists it first | 11:29 |
| kc2bez | It is a bit of a long story that I don't have all the details to but it isn't the official site. Sometimes Google page rankings can get skewed. | 11:37 |
| Mead | I'm skimming the aug 2016 the mailing list about it now :o | 11:38 |
| Mead | Gosh, the needless drama | 11:42 |
| Mead | is there anyway to do a repair install of lubuntu LTS 18.04? | 12:50 |
| diogenes_ | Mead, by repair install you mean what? | 12:52 |
| Mead | well, I've got a 18.04 install that for lack of better terms is just "borked" after an update, hardware is fine, bootloader (on another drive) is fine. but all I get is a black screen when. I'd like to fix it instead of a clean install. | 12:55 |
| lynorian | Mead can you switch to a tty with control alt f2? | 13:01 |
| Mead | let me try | 13:10 |
| Mead | when do you hit alt-f2? | 13:10 |
| Mead | nope, keyboard is unresponsive can't get the lock buttons to turn on or off the indicator lights even | 13:11 |
| Mead | well I've gotten into the grum menu | 13:12 |
| Mead | er grub menu | 13:12 |
| Mead | meh, think it is the wrong instance of grub... | 13:13 |
| lynorian | Mead: do you have bootloaders on both? | 13:23 |
| lynorian | you mentioned multiple disks | 13:24 |
| lynorian | make sure you aren't booting off the wrong one | 13:24 |
| lynorian | that can be quite derp | 13:24 |
| Mead | so here is my conveluted system setup.... it's an older laptop (repurposed because broken screen), the Lubuntu is installed onto an SD card and the bootloader is on a USB flash drive because the bios won't boot from the SD card. So I rigged up some version of grub (super grub boot image?) some months ago to get to boot, it aint pretty software wise but it has and still worked for quite a | 13:41 |
| Mead | while. | 13:41 |
| lubot | <JyotiGomes> Hello. With what I learned on the net and with the tips that were given to me on this channel, I added more tips to this article: ... https://sovietek.wordpress.com/2018/11/12/lubuntu-18-10-installation-tips/ | 13:51 |
| lubot | <JyotiGomes> If there is any incorrectness in the tips presented in the article, please tell me. | 13:53 |
| lubot | <teward001> might want to add "OPTIONAL: Add Swap Space Afterwards" and write tips on how to add swap space via a swapfile rather than a partition | 15:16 |
| lubot | <teward001> because a few things don't add swap space anymore. | 15:16 |
| lubot | <teward001> LVM2 still does but uses a LV inside the PV for it | 15:16 |
| lubot | <teward001> (I have LVM2 but I removed the swap volume and just use swapfiles heh) | 15:17 |
| lubot | <teward001> @JyotiGomes ^ | 15:20 |
| Mead | During an install I get an error stating "input/output error during read on /dev/sbd" is this a sign the storage device is dying? | 17:44 |
| teward | Mead: quite probably. | 17:57 |
| teward | depending on what /dev/sdb is | 17:57 |
| Mead | it is a SD card | 17:58 |
| teward | then yes it is possible it's dying. | 17:59 |
| Mead | how do I check it's health to determine that is the problem? | 18:00 |
| teward | test it on another computer, or test another SD card to see if it's the reader you're using. | 18:03 |
| teward | if all SD cards fail then it's the reader/writer on the system | 18:03 |
| lubot | <JyotiGomes> @teward001 [@JyotiGomes ^], 👍 | 18:05 |
| teward | Mead: if however you test the SD card in another system and it doesn't have the same error then you need to start looking at the failing reader/writer. | 18:34 |
| teward | but my guess is the SD card itself is busted, and testing it in another system would be the next step | 18:34 |
| teward | (I got pulled away sorry) | 18:34 |
| lubot | <JyotiGomes> Hello. In the passage from Lubuntu 18.04 (LXDE) to Lubuntu 18.10 (LXQt) it was advisable to make a fresh install. But from Lubuntu 18.10 it will already be possible to upgrade the Lubuntu versions (for 19.04, 19.10, 20.04, etc) without fresh install, am I correct? | 23:43 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Yes | 23:45 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> For instance, I already move from 18.10 to 19.04 (dev) | 23:46 |
| lubot | <JyotiGomes> Nice | 23:49 |
| lubot | <JyotiGomes> @HMollerCl [For instance, I already move from 18.10 to 19.04 (dev)], do you advise to do the same (upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04, if i want just to see how it works? i have two laptops with lubuntu 18.10 and i can make the experience .-) | 23:51 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> At this moment 19.04 is a dev version, so you might get bugs. The amount of upgrades per day I hughe | 23:53 |
| lubot | <JyotiGomes> @HMollerCl [At this moment 19.04 is a dev version, so you might get bugs. The amount of upgr …], 👍🏼 | 23:55 |
| lubot | <JyotiGomes> @HMollerCl [At this moment 19.04 is a dev version, so you might get bugs. The amount of upgr …], Can I ask why you did not choose to do a fresh install? Was it for you to know if the version upgrade worked well or were there more reasons? | 23:56 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @JyotiGomes [Can I ask why did you not choose to do a fresh install? Was it for you to know i …], Testing purposes | 23:59 |
| lubot | <JyotiGomes> @HMollerCl [Testing purposes], I figured that was it :-) Ok, Thanks. | 23:59 |
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