blebdoes 18.04 ship with lxqt, or lxde?00:55
blebk thanks00:57
Meadcan anyone help me diagnose a lubuntu install that stopped booting?  I've been running it off an SD card it quit booting yesterday.  The system seems fine, I can access the bios, and the thumb drive with the bootloader seems to work fine.  But it freezes up when lubuntu starts booting.07:27
Meaddid lubuntu change gui that is used in the lts and the current 18.10?10:46
kc2bezLubuntu 18.04 is the LTS and it uses lxde. The current 18.10 uses LXQt.10:49
Meadso that is why it look pretty different10:58
MeadSomehow allowing an update messed up my 18.04 install, and I'm trying to fix it.  Downloaded a fresh copy of 18.10 to boot live from a USB stick and the difference in the GUI is bugging me.11:04
kc2bez18.04 is still available for download as well.11:05
kc2bezThat being said LXQt will be the desktop environment for Lubuntu going forward. There is much more upstream development being done on it.11:07
Meadwhy the change?11:08
kc2bezThis blog post explains why Lubuntu made a change https://lubuntu.me/taking-a-new-direction/11:12
kc2bezThe TL;DR is most of the lxde developers have moved to LXQt. They feel it will be a better performing base.11:14
Meadthat post only mentions lxqt at the end11:18
Meadwell either way, I barely got use the look and feel of LXDE over the last few months. Changing to something else creates a learning curve I'm not looking for.11:21
kc2bez18.04 is a LTS release so we are supporting both environments, it isn't necessary to change if you don't want to.11:24
Meadis the 18.04 image linked on the website updated with all the patches and fixes?11:25
Meadhum... there appears to be lubuntu.me and lubuntu.net  are both legit?11:26
kc2bezLubuntu.me is the official site.11:26
kc2bezThe 18.04 image is the latest point release.11:27
Meadso what is the lubuntu.net site?11:29
Meadseems sorta shady, google even lists it first11:29
kc2bezIt is a bit of a long story that I don't have all the details to but it isn't the official site. Sometimes Google page rankings can get skewed.11:37
MeadI'm skimming the aug 2016 the mailing list about it now :o11:38
MeadGosh, the needless drama11:42
Meadis there anyway to do a repair install of lubuntu LTS 18.04?12:50
diogenes_Mead, by repair install you mean what?12:52
Meadwell, I've got a 18.04 install that for lack of better terms is just "borked" after an update, hardware is fine, bootloader (on another drive) is fine.  but all I get is a black screen when.  I'd like to fix it instead of a clean install.12:55
lynorianMead can you switch to a tty with control alt f2?13:01
Meadlet me try13:10
Meadwhen do you hit alt-f2?13:10
Meadnope, keyboard is unresponsive can't get the lock buttons to turn on or off the indicator lights even13:11
Meadwell I've gotten into the grum menu13:12
Meader grub menu13:12
Meadmeh, think it is the wrong instance of grub...13:13
lynorianMead: do you have bootloaders on both?13:23
lynorianyou mentioned multiple disks13:24
lynorianmake sure you aren't booting off the wrong one13:24
lynorianthat can be quite derp13:24
Meadso here is my conveluted system setup.... it's an older laptop (repurposed because broken screen), the Lubuntu is installed onto an SD card and the bootloader is on a USB flash drive because the bios won't boot from the SD card.  So I rigged up some version of grub (super grub boot image?) some months ago to get to boot, it aint pretty software wise but it has and still worked for quite a13:41
lubot<JyotiGomes> Hello. With what I learned on the net and with the tips that were given to me on this channel, I added more tips to this article: ... https://sovietek.wordpress.com/2018/11/12/lubuntu-18-10-installation-tips/13:51
lubot<JyotiGomes> If there is any incorrectness in the tips presented in the article, please tell me.13:53
lubot<teward001> might want to add "OPTIONAL: Add Swap Space Afterwards" and write tips on how to add swap space via a swapfile rather than a partition15:16
lubot<teward001> because a few things don't add swap space anymore.15:16
lubot<teward001> LVM2 still does but uses a LV inside the PV for it15:16
lubot<teward001> (I have LVM2 but I removed the swap volume and just use swapfiles heh)15:17
lubot<teward001> @JyotiGomes ^15:20
MeadDuring an install I get an error stating "input/output error during read on /dev/sbd"  is this a sign the storage device is dying?17:44
tewardMead: quite probably.17:57
tewarddepending on what /dev/sdb is17:57
Meadit is a SD card17:58
tewardthen yes it is possible it's dying.17:59
Meadhow do I check it's health to determine that is the problem?18:00
tewardtest it on another computer, or test another SD card to see if it's the reader you're using.18:03
tewardif all SD cards fail then it's the reader/writer on the system18:03
lubot<JyotiGomes> @teward001 [@JyotiGomes ^], 👍18:05
tewardMead: if however you test the SD card in another system and it doesn't have the same error then you need to start looking at the failing reader/writer.18:34
tewardbut my guess is the SD card itself is busted, and testing it in another system would be the next step18:34
teward(I got pulled away sorry)18:34
lubot<JyotiGomes> Hello. In the passage from Lubuntu 18.04 (LXDE) to Lubuntu 18.10 (LXQt) it was advisable to make a fresh install. But from Lubuntu 18.10 it will already be possible to upgrade the Lubuntu versions (for 19.04, 19.10, 20.04, etc) without fresh install, am I correct?23:43
lubot<HMollerCl> Yes23:45
lubot<HMollerCl> For instance, I already move from 18.10 to 19.04 (dev)23:46
lubot<JyotiGomes> Nice23:49
lubot<JyotiGomes> @HMollerCl [For instance, I already move from 18.10 to 19.04 (dev)], do you advise to do the same (upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04, if i want just to see how it works? i have two laptops with lubuntu 18.10 and i can make the experience .-)23:51
lubot<HMollerCl> At this moment 19.04 is a dev version, so you might get bugs. The amount of upgrades per day I hughe23:53
lubot<JyotiGomes> @HMollerCl [At this moment 19.04 is a dev version, so you might get bugs. The amount of upgr …], 👍🏼23:55
lubot<JyotiGomes> @HMollerCl [At this moment 19.04 is a dev version, so you might get bugs. The amount of upgr …], Can I ask why you did not choose to do a fresh install? Was it for you to know if the version upgrade worked well or were there more reasons?23:56
lubot<HMollerCl> @JyotiGomes [Can I ask why did you not choose to do a fresh install? Was it for you to know i …], Testing purposes23:59
lubot<JyotiGomes> @HMollerCl [Testing purposes], I figured that was it :-) Ok, Thanks.23:59

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