[00:55] does 18.04 ship with lxqt, or lxde? [00:55] lxde [00:57] k thanks [07:27] can anyone help me diagnose a lubuntu install that stopped booting? I've been running it off an SD card it quit booting yesterday. The system seems fine, I can access the bios, and the thumb drive with the bootloader seems to work fine. But it freezes up when lubuntu starts booting. [10:46] did lubuntu change gui that is used in the lts and the current 18.10? [10:49] Lubuntu 18.04 is the LTS and it uses lxde. The current 18.10 uses LXQt. [10:58] so that is why it look pretty different [11:04] Somehow allowing an update messed up my 18.04 install, and I'm trying to fix it. Downloaded a fresh copy of 18.10 to boot live from a USB stick and the difference in the GUI is bugging me. [11:05] 18.04 is still available for download as well. [11:07] That being said LXQt will be the desktop environment for Lubuntu going forward. There is much more upstream development being done on it. [11:08] why the change? [11:12] This blog post explains why Lubuntu made a change https://lubuntu.me/taking-a-new-direction/ [11:14] The TL;DR is most of the lxde developers have moved to LXQt. They feel it will be a better performing base. [11:18] that post only mentions lxqt at the end [11:21] well either way, I barely got use the look and feel of LXDE over the last few months. Changing to something else creates a learning curve I'm not looking for. [11:24] 18.04 is a LTS release so we are supporting both environments, it isn't necessary to change if you don't want to. [11:25] is the 18.04 image linked on the website updated with all the patches and fixes? [11:26] hum... there appears to be lubuntu.me and lubuntu.net are both legit? [11:26] Lubuntu.me is the official site. [11:27] The 18.04 image is the latest point release. [11:29] so what is the lubuntu.net site? [11:29] seems sorta shady, google even lists it first [11:37] It is a bit of a long story that I don't have all the details to but it isn't the official site. Sometimes Google page rankings can get skewed. [11:38] I'm skimming the aug 2016 the mailing list about it now :o [11:42] Gosh, the needless drama [12:50] is there anyway to do a repair install of lubuntu LTS 18.04? [12:52] Mead, by repair install you mean what? [12:55] well, I've got a 18.04 install that for lack of better terms is just "borked" after an update, hardware is fine, bootloader (on another drive) is fine. but all I get is a black screen when. I'd like to fix it instead of a clean install. [13:01] Mead can you switch to a tty with control alt f2? [13:10] let me try [13:10] when do you hit alt-f2? [13:11] nope, keyboard is unresponsive can't get the lock buttons to turn on or off the indicator lights even [13:12] well I've gotten into the grum menu [13:12] er grub menu [13:13] meh, think it is the wrong instance of grub... [13:23] Mead: do you have bootloaders on both? [13:24] you mentioned multiple disks [13:24] make sure you aren't booting off the wrong one [13:24] that can be quite derp [13:41] so here is my conveluted system setup.... it's an older laptop (repurposed because broken screen), the Lubuntu is installed onto an SD card and the bootloader is on a USB flash drive because the bios won't boot from the SD card. So I rigged up some version of grub (super grub boot image?) some months ago to get to boot, it aint pretty software wise but it has and still worked for quite a [13:41] while. [13:51] Hello. With what I learned on the net and with the tips that were given to me on this channel, I added more tips to this article: ... https://sovietek.wordpress.com/2018/11/12/lubuntu-18-10-installation-tips/ [13:53] If there is any incorrectness in the tips presented in the article, please tell me. [15:16] might want to add "OPTIONAL: Add Swap Space Afterwards" and write tips on how to add swap space via a swapfile rather than a partition [15:16] because a few things don't add swap space anymore. [15:16] LVM2 still does but uses a LV inside the PV for it [15:17] (I have LVM2 but I removed the swap volume and just use swapfiles heh) [15:20] @JyotiGomes ^ [17:44] During an install I get an error stating "input/output error during read on /dev/sbd" is this a sign the storage device is dying? [17:57] Mead: quite probably. [17:57] depending on what /dev/sdb is [17:58] it is a SD card [17:59] then yes it is possible it's dying. [18:00] how do I check it's health to determine that is the problem? [18:03] test it on another computer, or test another SD card to see if it's the reader you're using. [18:03] if all SD cards fail then it's the reader/writer on the system [18:05] @teward001 [@JyotiGomes ^], 👍 [18:34] Mead: if however you test the SD card in another system and it doesn't have the same error then you need to start looking at the failing reader/writer. [18:34] but my guess is the SD card itself is busted, and testing it in another system would be the next step [18:34] (I got pulled away sorry) [23:43] Hello. In the passage from Lubuntu 18.04 (LXDE) to Lubuntu 18.10 (LXQt) it was advisable to make a fresh install. But from Lubuntu 18.10 it will already be possible to upgrade the Lubuntu versions (for 19.04, 19.10, 20.04, etc) without fresh install, am I correct? [23:45] Yes [23:46] For instance, I already move from 18.10 to 19.04 (dev) [23:49] Nice [23:51] @HMollerCl [For instance, I already move from 18.10 to 19.04 (dev)], do you advise to do the same (upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04, if i want just to see how it works? i have two laptops with lubuntu 18.10 and i can make the experience .-) [23:53] At this moment 19.04 is a dev version, so you might get bugs. The amount of upgrades per day I hughe [23:55] @HMollerCl [At this moment 19.04 is a dev version, so you might get bugs. The amount of upgr …], 👍🏼 [23:56] @HMollerCl [At this moment 19.04 is a dev version, so you might get bugs. The amount of upgr …], Can I ask why you did not choose to do a fresh install? Was it for you to know if the version upgrade worked well or were there more reasons? [23:59] @JyotiGomes [Can I ask why did you not choose to do a fresh install? Was it for you to know i …], Testing purposes [23:59] @HMollerCl [Testing purposes], I figured that was it :-) Ok, Thanks.