didrocksgood morning07:17
dufluMorning didrocks07:22
didrockshey duflu07:24
dufludidrocks, hey in bionic I don't get any circle next to the clock showing there are pending notifications. Have you seen that bug?07:25
dufluFound it. bug 155949107:30
ubot5bug 1559491 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Inconsistent behaviour from the unread notifications dot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155949107:30
didrocksduflu: I haven't, but I didn't run bionic for a long time07:35
didrocksduflu: they are 2 kinds of notifications though, IIRC, those showing a dot, those which didn't (remembering Allan talking about it)07:36
dufluWell, the notifications are hiding in there next to the calendar. I assume if that's true the the dot should be visible to tell you they are hiding there07:37
dufluAlso weird: My 1000Hz mouse now works properly in disco despite the systemd fix for it not being in disco07:37
dufluMaybe the kernel has improved07:38
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dufluMorning willcooke (cricket sounds follow)08:52
willcookehow goes duflu?08:52
dufluwillcooke, goes well. Just about back up to full speed again post holidays08:52
dufluYou willcooke?08:52
didrockshey willcooke08:53
willcookeLikewise, feel like I'm getting caught up08:53
willcookemorning didrocks08:53
willcookeHopefully we can start on the interviews next week \o/08:53
willcookeAnyone (other than j_ibel) using Ubiquity hardware for internet?08:54
jibelI think it's spelt ubiquiti08:55
jibelwith a I at the end unlike the ubuntu installer08:56
willcookeoh right08:56
jibelit can be confusing on this channel08:56
didrocksI don't, but plan the future after moving ;)09:01
willcookehi Laney09:01
didrockshey Laney09:01
willcookedidrocks, :))  It's about the same price as a raspberry pi but seems to do everything I need with zero effort on my part09:01
dufluo/   Laney09:01
Laneyhey willcooke didrocks duflu, how's it going?09:02
Laneyyeah I have unifi / ubiquiti / edgeos stuff09:02
Laneytheir product lines are confusing as hell09:02
didrockswillcooke: yeah, I guess it will be handy ;)09:02
didrocksLaney: right09:03
didrockswillcooke: which one are you looking to? Most of them are quite pricy no?09:04
willcookedidrocks, edge router09:08
willcookeperhaps edge router x09:08
didrocksgrrr, archive inconsistency made s390x tests failing for ubuntu-make, rerunning (the other archs are ok now)09:09
didrockswillcooke: ah, but no wifi expansion09:09
seb128good morning desktopers09:10
willcookeTheir business model is interesting.  I am assuming that they are pretty much "giving away" these soho spec routers so that nerds buy them, and then they will get a grass roots following.09:10
didrocksI will have Gb plugs in every room, so not my need ;)09:10
willcookedidrocks, yeah I think I would add that later09:10
didrockswillcooke: yeah09:10
didrocksmorning seb12809:10
willcookeI have cat5 in most places now, and good enough wifi everywhere09:10
seb128hey didrocks09:10
willcookehi seb12809:10
rbalintwillcooke, i use the router and the wifi, too09:10
willcookerbalint, ah!  And you're happy I assume?  Do you use it with VDSL?09:11
rbalintwillcooke, i'm super happy since the router's cli is like cisco's09:12
willcookethat would make me happy too :)09:12
rbalintalso the wifi is fast09:12
willcookeI'm going to look at the QOS options and the multi-WAN routing a bit more, and then I think I will get one09:13
rbalinti have only ~50mbps uplink due to local constraint but parallel connections work much nicer than on usual small wifi routers09:13
Laneythe edgerouters ship with an OS based on a really old debian09:14
Laneywhich is annoying me atm due to some incompatibilties between its openvpn and stable's09:14
willcookeLaney, any idea if they might fix it one day?09:14
rbalintwillcooke, so no vdsl, just adsl09:14
willcookerbalint, yeah, I've got two domestic VDSL connections which I round-robin load balance. 50 down 10 to 15 up each09:15
Laneyyeah they said they were working on a newer base09:15
Laneyit basically works well though, you might not care/notice09:15
willcookeI do have an OpenVPN tunnel up to an Ubuntu box in Digital Ocean09:16
willcookebut yeah, I can probably work around that09:16
Laneyit probably works, I was trying to push some settings relating to ipv6 that aren't in older openvpns09:17
willcookeI get an IPv6 address(es) with my BT line, so I would like to start using it. But, ya know, it's new-fangled09:18
LaneyI'm sure that'll work09:19
LaneyI was trying to get a /64 from my VPS onto the router09:19
Laneyso it'd be my "ISP" for ipv609:19
TrevinhoMorning ppl!09:19
Laneybut I've failed so far :(09:20
Laneyhey Trevinho09:20
TrevinhoHi Laney09:20
willcookemorning Trevinho09:20
Laneygimme some news09:20
didrocksmorning Trevinho09:20
willcookehi Nafallo09:23
Nafalloactually; is it morning if the coffee haven't kicked in yet, or still night?09:23
Nafalloto be or not to be...09:23
seb128hey trevinho09:26
Laneymoin seb128, missed you coming in09:28
dufluMorning Trevinho, seb128, Nafallo, Europe, Africa...09:28
dufluAnd America if you're crazy09:29
seb128hey duflu Laney09:29
seb128Laney, I sneaked in with the uk crowd :)09:29
seb128Laney, thx for the calendar/vac update :)09:39
Laneyjust need to decide where to go now :-)09:40
Laneyapparently Wales might have the new world's steepest street, which sounds like a tourist attaction worth visiting ...09:41
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers09:55
willcookehi oSoMoN09:55
seb128hey oSoMoN09:55
oSoMoNhey willcooke, seb12809:55
Laneyaloha oSoMoN10:10
oSoMoNhey Laney10:10
Laneyhow's it going?10:10
Laneythat good10:46
oSoMoNooops, my attention got distracted from IRC, sorry Laney I didn't mean to ignore you. I'm good, thanks! how are you yourself?11:28
LaneyoSoMoN: :D yeah, not bad thanks11:37
* andyrock realised he forgot to wish all a good morning today :/13:28
willcookehi andyrock :)13:30
seb128hey andyrock13:34
jbichagood morning13:35
oSoMoNgood afternoon andyrock13:38
oSoMoNgood morning jbicha13:38
seb128hey jbicha13:50
acheronukseb128: thanks for the comment on the software-properties menu visibility bug. I'd sorta forgotten about that for the time being, but knew the diff on the bug was no longer good. I'll try to do as suggested soon15:40
seb128acheronuk, yw! and thx, I can have another look when you submit the change, feel free to ping me on IRC on add me to the mp as reviewer15:41
acheronukok :)15:41
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seb128Trevinho, is there anyone upstream you can try to nag about getting https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libnotify/merge_requests/4 reviewed? I would prefer to have it no distro-specific-patched if we can avoid it16:20
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 4 in libnotify "notify-send: allow passing colon as hint value" [Opened]16:20
seb128Trevinho, sorry, confused changed, ... can you try to upstream the one from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnotify/+bug/1802483 ?16:22
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1802483 in libnotify (Ubuntu) "Notifications emitted by a snap with local files or desktop files use wrong namespace" [Medium,In progress]16:22
seb128seems it's not atm?16:22
Trevinhoseb128: so you were referring to the snap one right?16:38
TrevinhoWell, I thought not to upstream it as it was very snap specific... anyway libnotify doesn't seem to have a proper maintainer now16:38
Trevinhoso... If we do a review ourselves upstream we can probably merge it16:38
Trevinhoper sé it won't touch anything inside non-snap envs16:39
seb128trevinho, yes the snap one, sorry for the confusion17:01
seb128right, I expect upstream to be fine having snap specific code if that doesn't impact them17:01
Trevinhoseb128: I can propose that, then maybe ken can give it a look & review?17:02
seb128well propose it anyway, then we can wait for upstream and distro patch meanwhile17:03
Trevinhoseb128: and we need to SRU it more than everything17:03
Trevinhoseb128: I was looking the thing also for GApplication's notify, but those are more complicated, as they need an app-id as source, and..  app-id's are not possible as per snap format on .desktop files17:04
seb128right, first step is land it in disco, I can handle that and the SRUs but I would like it at least proposed upstream17:04
Trevinhoseb128: playing with this for GApplication would make it you see what I mean https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VBQ79pHD5b/17:05
seb128one step at the time17:06
Trevinhoseb128: libnotify proposed at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libnotify/merge_requests/517:14
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 5 in libnotify "notification: use snap namespace and prefix whent launched inside snap" [Opened]17:14
seb128Trevinho, thx17:14
seb128can you get a code review for that from someone in our team before we upload/SRU? maybe andyrock if he has some review cycle, that shouldn't be too long/complex right?17:15
seb128we still need to get a review from upstream then17:24
seb128but a first code review would give us more confidence in having the improvement in Ubuntu while it's blocked on upstream17:25
willcookenight all18:17
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marcustomlinsonTrevinho: hi! :) Totally eavesdropping here, just a thought: Wouldn't you be logging "Setting hint..." sometimes when the value is not actually amended? : https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libnotify/merge_requests/5/diffs#89fbedd120537a5dd6e1c2b16cc94af0bfeba8a3_782_91618:48
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 5 in libnotify "notification: use snap namespace and prefix whent launched inside snap" [Opened]18:48
marcustomlinsonSay if the key was neither "desktop-entry", "image-path", "image_path" or "sound-file"18:48
andyrockseb128: I can take a look next week19:45
andyrockalso I'm trying to understand why zfs  module is being loaded at boot time19:46
andyrocktainting my kernel and making it impossible to install livepatches19:46
andyrockI'm not using any zfs19:47
seb128andyrock, try asking on #ubuntu-kernel maybe if they have an idea?20:25
andyrockit was because of lxd20:48
seb128so lxd is conflicting with livepatch use?20:49
seb128that seems suboptimal :/20:49

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