[00:24] Hi everybody! [00:25] Welcome back holli [00:25] ty Major_Wedgie [00:25] What have you been up to? [00:25] So I've recently updated from ubuntu 16 to ubuntu 18.04 and I'm having weird SSL issues when trying to site to site transfer using vsftpd server [00:25] nm mate, wbu ;) [00:26] Major_Wedgie: This channel isn't for regular chatting, just support. Head over to #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like to chat :) [00:26] holli: what exactly do you mean by "I'm having weird SSL issues?" [00:28] SlidingHorn, I was able to site to site transfer normally using my current configuration of vsftpd but lately It won't so i switched to proftpd just to test it and check the cfgs and i get various SSL errors as [00:29] ``unable to connect using TLS connection: protocol error: [00:29] (1) error:140C5042:SSL routines:ssl_undefined_function:called a function you should not call`` [00:29] ``unction:called a function you should not call [00:29] 2019-01-12 05:06:00,852 mod_tls/2.6[3581]: SSL_shutdown error: SSL:`` [00:29] holli: (please use a pastebin for multiple line entries in the future) [00:29] I'm sorry, and sure will do [00:30] I have another server I've bought recently, it's on ubuntu 18.4 and site to site works fine with identical cfg file for vsftpd [00:30] the one I'm experiencing the issue at was upgraded to 18.04 from 16.04 [00:30] holli: and when you say "but lately it won't" - What exactly does that mean? (i.e. what exact command and error is there) [00:31] I'm trying to use FXP protocol to server to server transfer, I've passive address set in my cfg and the passive ports and no firewall on [00:32] lately because I'm sure It worked when I was on ubuntu 18.04 but 2 days ago It wouldn't work no more. [00:49] hey [00:51] is someone going to say something? [01:06] holli: fromthe log lines you posted i'm not sure which log they are from or which message was generated by which system, but i have a hunch this is a TLS capable client talking to an SSL-only (so no TLS) server. [01:08] so maybe check / verify that all systems have both dameons and (especiall SSL/TLS related) libraries up to date and that they were actually properly rebooted / services restarted after upgrading / installing new / newer libs. === WoC- is now known as WoC [01:15] tomreyn, I've been FXP using vsftpd normally, then that error showed up, I checked vsftpd logs but they weren't telling me much of the issue so I tried changing the ssl_cipher and adding ones like : ssl_ciphers=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:HIGH:MEDIUM [01:15] and commenting all ssl_tlsv1 and others, then restarting and trying to fxp but no sites worked [01:16] i thin uninstalled it and re-installed proftpd while checking the logs, and i was able to fxp only when i set TLSv1.2, and only when i have the other sites set to act as passive, so anything lower didn't work and showed me the previous error [01:17] TLSv1.2 to some server running similar would work, but TLSV1.2 to TLSv1 somehow won't work on this server [01:19] I compared ssl libs and they seem fine and openssl is identical but the one that wont work while running cl :openssl ciphers -v 'TLSv1.3' | head -20 shows some TLSv1.3 while the other one doesn't, so There might be something restricting that and I can't figure out what it is [01:20] no firewall running in my server btw [01:24] Is this the Ubuntu support channel or did I mess this up too? [01:24] tomreyn, did i see this not before, 2 tsl versions and connection problems [01:25] JackLewis: you're right. [01:25] YAY! thanks tomryn [01:26] hi JackLewis, you sufferfrom connection issues ? [01:27] so idk what can it be tbh [01:27] holli: since fxp, and ftp itself, are mostly considered legacy protocols nowadays, have you considered alternatives? [01:27] i think fxp was never really specified, was it? [01:28] I actually haven't but I would like to point out that FTP works perfectly [01:28] FTP locally of my server using filezilla or any similar client ad lftpd works fine [01:28] encryption and integrity are of no relevance there? [01:28] but FXP specifically wouldn't, but I'm sure my cfg are fine since I've been using the same for 2-3 years ago and never had an issue [01:29] yes, the are a must, you need to enforce ssl encryption in some servers [01:29] using proftpd and having the correct settings for the other server, makes FXP works but only if it has TLS1.2 [01:30] while 2-3 days vsftpd just worked for everything, and on a similar ubuntu 18.04, vsftpd still works [01:30] I'm sure something isn't right in my server, but can't figure it out tbh [01:30] why don't you use sftp or bittorrent instead? [01:30] or just https [01:32] I guess they dont' support those protocols [01:32] can ipv6 cause any issue like that ? [01:32] they would replace those protocols [01:33] ipv6 might be an issue if you use hostnames resolving to ipv4 + ipv6 and some of these protocols can't handle it [01:34] it's roughly 15 years ago that i last used fxp, and i remember it was always sketchy, also because of ftp and its active / passive configurations, high ports and need for firewall support [01:34] true that [01:34] how about updating to openssl 1.1.1 ? [01:35] mine is on : Installed: 1.1.0g-2ubuntu4.3 [01:35] Candidate: 1.1.0g-2ubuntu4.3 [01:35] Version table: [01:35] *** 1.1.0g-2ubuntu4.3 500 [01:35] ugh sorry again. [01:43] which ubuntu version are you using? [01:44] normally you'll only have one version available / supported. you could, of course, rebuild some software, linking against a different tls library, but that is then rather out of scope for this channel. [01:45] also, unless you need TLSv1.3, the openssl version is probably not an issue. [01:46] ty tomreyn [01:46] then probably not and I'm on [01:47] Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS [01:47] Bionic [01:48] !info libssl-dev bionic [01:48] libssl-dev (source: openssl): Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.0g-2ubuntu4.3 (bionic), package size 1357 kB, installed size 5772 kB [01:49] i think there is work underway for a stable release upgrade of openssl/libssl in bionic so as to support TLSv1.3 there [01:50] actually this is present in 1.1, so this was already updated [01:51] sorry I keep popping in and out guys, I'm just setting this up so I just type one command and I join. Please Ignore the message saying that I joined and left [01:51] thanks [01:52] i see something which I'm not sure if it's normal or not [01:52] ii libssl-dev:amd64 1.1.1a-2+ubuntu16.04.1+deb.sury.org+1 [01:52] it shows ubuntu16.04 even though I'm on 18.04 [01:52] guys, I'm having a lot of trouble installing python 2.7.14 in ubuntu within a dockerfile [01:53] anyone have experience with docker? [01:57] try 2.7.15, for bionic and up https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python2.7 [02:02] thanks OerHeks, how would that look in a dockerfile? [02:03] rai, that, i don't know [02:03] i assumed your issue is the version [02:07] nope, my issue is making or installing a specific version of ubuntu that isn't available aon apt [02:10] Hi all. I've attempted to setup a system with an encypted root volume. I've clearly gotten something wrong, as I'm just getting the grub prompt rather than a menu of boot options or a prompt for a passphrase. /etc/default/grub looked good to me prior to running update-grub. What clues can I get via the grub prompt, and how do I go about getting them? [02:12] From what gets printed with 'set', I don't see the kernel command-line args that were in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX from /etc/default/grub [02:20] oceanquake: are you at the grub prompts or in initramfs? [02:21] ah you said grub [02:21] tomreyn: Hi again. At the grub prompt. initramfs never comes up. [02:23] tomreyn: I should have said that /boot is also on the root volume. So there is no unencrypted /boot. Do I need to adjust GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES in /etc/default/grub ? [02:23] can you discuss how you installed (which installer you used) and how you set up block device layers (from bottom to top: hdds, gpt, partitions, raid-1, dmcrypt-luks, lvm, /boot + /) [02:26] with / encrypted, you will need to have (exactly) "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" in /etc/default/grub and, if uefi booting, you need to use the non-signed grub-efi [02:27] GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES may be needed if you're BIOS booting, not sure [02:29] tomreyn: Yes. Whole disk is dedicated to Linux, all GPT. I have a 100 MB EFISP FAT32 partition, rest is dedicated to LVM. All my Linux filesystems are on luks volumes which are on top of LVM (as opposed to more common case of whole partition being dedicated to luks, then carved up into multiple LVM logical vols). /boot is on encrypted root fs. [02:29] System is UEFI, not BIOS. [02:31] So I have multiple luks volumes, one per LVM vol [02:33] Going to check the GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK option, booting to livedvd now . [02:41] oceanquake: also double check the correct grub variant [02:42] oceanquake: also /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab [02:42] make sure all uuids match what blkid reports [02:42] and that uuids are used wherever possible [02:43] you didn't say how you installed / hwich installer you used, but based on the 100 MB ESP i assume you at least partitioned yourself. [02:44] tomreyn: I manually partitioned everything. Original installation was via KDE neon livedvd based on Ubuntu 18.04 . [02:44] I assumed it did the right thing with respect to grub variant, though not certain how to check? [02:44] normally ESP should be 250 MB minimum, not because you need this space but because there are UEFI implementations which fail to detect it otherwise [02:45] but this is not an issu on your system, grub gets loaded [02:45] dpkg -l grub\* [02:46] Understood, since I will never (willingly anyway) install windows to the "bare metal" disk, I didn't figure it would be a problem. *parted shows about 6 MB used on the ESP vol. [02:46] you should have grub-efi-amd64(-bin) installed, not grub-efi-amd64-signed [02:47] ignore the ESP remark, i just wanted to make you aware this could be an issue on a different system [02:47] OK, so I see there is not GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK option in /etc/default/grub ; totally follow you on the ESP point. [02:48] /s/not/no/ [02:49] without this option, grub wont be able to boot off encrypted /boot [02:50] OK, let me try fixing that first [02:51] you'll need to update-grub and grub.install afterwards [02:51] *grub-install [02:51] how do I get the manual proxy settings back in 18.04.1 budgie? Right now there's only none and Automatic as options [02:51] guys I'm getting this error and I'm not sure why: https://paste.ee/p/WfO9x [02:51] so I've just been running update-grub; where does the grub.install step come in? [02:52] now [02:53] it needs to ensure the grub stage 1 on ESP has the cryptomount executable available [02:53] this is what the grub-install does [02:54] ugh, awkward. The network connections applet is not the way to go about enabling it apparently. Settings -> Network -> Network Proxy [02:54] so first run update-grub, then grub-install ? [02:54] raj: run "apt update" beforehand [02:55] oceanquake: yes, that's the common approach [02:56] thank you tomreyn [02:56] worked [02:56] oceanquake: provide the device contianing the ESP as first argument to grub.install. it's basicall yignored, but i think this is mandatory. [02:56] raj: you'Re welcome, keep in mind these two belong together. [02:58] raj: you dont's always have to apt update, but if apt install / full-upgrade / dist-upgrade reports errors or warnings, be sure to run apt update [02:58] i'd run apt update on a daily basis, or i changed apt sources or preferences [03:02] JohnDoe2: i'd like to help but don't have budgie here. you can set a http proxy in /etc/environment, though [03:03] appreciate it [03:05] tomreyn: from the chroot, even after "mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars" running grub-install gives "cannot find EFI directory" [03:05] hi all-having an issue when i plug in any usb storage-i end up with two identical mounts on the desktop and in gui of nautalis-am on 18.04 ubuntu any ideas how to fix the issue people, please help me [03:06] oceanquake: which argument do you pass to grub-install ? [03:07] oceanquake: actually scratch this, none is needed [03:07] oceanquake: efivarfs is not the esp [03:07] https://imgur.com/a/sdifu0r as you can see it has mounted the usb drive named diskimg twice and they are both the same disk [03:07] you need to mount the esp [03:07] OK, what should the esp mount target be? [03:07] /boot/efi [03:10] i have a VM here which uefi boots off encrypted /boot and / (on top of several layers), mount | grep -i efi reports this: http://termbin.com/xqnc [03:10] tomreyn: OK, that seemed to work (gave "file descriptor 4... leaked" messages,. but those seem non-fatal). Other than rebooting, can I sanity-check? [03:10] yes those are non fatal [03:11] i don't actually know how to review the grub stage 1, it's probably just an archive of some sort [03:12] other than that, i already suggested to review all UUIDs in all relevant configuration files, so i assume you already did this [03:13] Ok, so other thing you mentioned is signed vs. unsigned. It looks like what is installed is signed. Why is that a problem, if it's what the distribution installs by default? And sorry, yes, I checked and am comfortable with crypttab and fstab [03:14] If I had a problem there though, I assume I'd at least see initrd output, and I'm not even getting there. [03:14] nojimon: post the url treturned by: mount | nc termbin.com 9999 [03:16] oceanquake: because of bug 1565950 [03:16] bug 1565950 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Grub 2 fails to boot a kernel on a luks encrypted volume with Secure Boot enabled" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1565950 [03:17] see also bug 1762988 [03:17] bug 1762988 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Bootloader installation fails on UEFI systems with FDE (incl. /boot)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762988 [03:17] it'S not limited to enabled secure boot [03:20] oceanquake: if you want to secure boot (the only reason you'd need grub signed anyways) you will need to create a certificate and import it into the eufi moklist [03:20] s/eufi/UEFI/ [03:21] So both grub-efi-amd64-bin and grub-efi-amd64-signed are installed... [03:21] yeah thats wrong [03:22] it wouldnt be wrong if grub-efi-amd64-signed wasnt missing cryptomount [03:24] hmm, so which version is getting placed on the ESP when I invoke grub-update or grub-install? should I just uninstall the -signed version and re-run those? [03:25] you should have grub-efi-amd64(-bin) installed, not grub-efi-amd64-signed [03:25] maybe i should have written: you should have grub-efi-amd64 and grub-efi-amd64-bin installed but not grub-efi-amd64-signed [03:26] -bin is a dependency of grub-efi-amd64 do i put this into parenthesis [03:26] s/ do / so / [03:27] tomreyn: OK, I uninstalled -signed and just re-ran update-grub as well as grub-install. [03:27] oceanquake: do you have grub-efi-amd64 installed, though? [03:31] mount | nc termbin.com 9999 [03:31] im not sure if i did it right i pasted into terminal-was that what you needed me to do [03:31] nojimon: you need to paste this to a terminal window [03:32] nojimon: what you did was to paste it into chat [03:32] tomreyn: OK, just did that. Sorry, I'm being a bit monkey-see, monkey-do about this because all the EFI/grub2/signed stuff is not something I completely understand. [03:32] https://termbin.com/2h4d [03:32] above is the output returned- [03:33] oceanquake: it's a bit complex, and quitte different from bios booting [03:33] yeah, definitely seems that way. I'm more comfortable with BIOS and LILO, tbh [03:35] tomreyn, thank you for your help [03:35] uefi + gpt booting is not actually bad once you get used to it. it's still way too much complexity for a process which should be very dumb, but it's not worse than bios + mbr, rather a little better, and most of all different. [03:36] nojimon: i didn't do much, yet ;-) so we see you have /dev/sdb1 - this will be your usb stick, mounted in two places: /media/usb0 and /media/non/DISK_IMG [03:37] i know but i appreciate your reply and help-why do you think its mounting twice [03:38] nojimon: can you run: cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999; udisksctl status | nc termbin.com 9999 [03:38] i'm not sure, yet [03:40] got two lines of output https://termbin.com/7pge https://termbin.com/fhs0 [03:42] nojimon: thanks, now: gio mount -l | nc termbin.com 9999 [03:43] tomreyn: OK, I guess nothing left to do but unmount everything get out of livedvd and try to boot off disk? [03:45] oceanquake: since you only replaced the grub package now, i'd update-grub and grub-install again, but other than that i would think so, yes [03:45] tomreyn: yes, did those steps. OK, here we go... [03:46] https://termbin.com/deit [03:47] nojimon: did you say that both mounts appear at the same time, fully automatically, when you insert the sd card? [03:48] yes [03:48] can anyone tell me /link how to install a program from an archive if extracting and ./configure doesnt work? [03:48] sorry hang on i need to check something [03:49] AWest21: this is something not available via the package system? [03:49] AWest21: and what do you mean by ./configure doesn't work? [03:50] nojimon: i'm not sure this will actually work or improve it, but you can try: gio mount -u file:///media/non/DISK_IMG [03:50] nojimon: i'm afraid i don't exactly know how this stuff works either [03:50] sudo apt-get install package-name didnt work oceanquake and I got a few different errors when I tried using ./configure, i'm not real familiar with compiling [03:52] AWest21: "doesn't work" is the least useful way to describe an error. [03:52] do you have more details? [03:52] AWest21: do you know if it's a program that is in fact available via the package system? [03:53] oceanquake: did it boot fine this time? [03:54] tomreyn: so I get a textmode boot menu (I guess generated by the onboard EFI) that doesn't bring me to the grub prompt. [03:54] it lists the various bootable devices [03:55] oceanquake, how do I check the package system? it doesnt show up with sudo apt-get or the software center [03:55] oceanquake: is secure boot switched on? [03:55] AWest21: apt update; apt search [03:56] AWest21: there is synaptic as a GUI if you prefer this. [03:57] didnt work dude https://imgur.com/a/8nXWwSq [03:58] nojimon: gio mount -u /media/non/DISK_IMG [04:00] tomreyn that didnt work. im just trying to install a gnome extension and they are all in .zips that cant be compiled via ./configure i guess [04:01] tomreyn, gio: file:///media/non/DISK_IMG: Containing mount for file /media/non/DISK_IMG not found [04:01] tomreyn: you called it. Once I turned secure boot on, it went forward [04:02] tomreyn, https://imgur.com/a/U5l9Vq4 [04:03] tomreyn, just unpluged the usb and re plugged in [04:03] nojimon: oops now you have 3 mounts! [04:03] tomreyn, yup [04:03] nojimon: okay, try this: sudo apt purge usbmount [04:03] then unomunt all, then re-plug [04:04] tomreyn: there is still some debugging to do; it seems like GRUB prompts for the passphrase, but then I get prompted again for the passphrase for the cryptroot [04:04] oceanquake: you had to turn secure boot ON to make the boot work? [04:04] tomreyn, https://imgur.com/a/aBa8Zvi [04:04] oceanquake: i assume you had to turn it OFF, right? [04:05] tomreyn: sorry, wrong polarity in my comment [04:05] tomreyn: you are right [04:05] oceanquake: ok ;) [04:05] Hm, now I just get dumped to initramfs prompt [04:06] but this is progress! [04:06] https://imgur.com/a/patKXm4 [04:06] tomreyn is there a gui to install gnome-extensions from since im a noob? [04:06] oceanquake: once you solved the initramfs issue, you can try this to save one password prompt: create the dir /etc/luks/ and put keys there as .keyfile, add those to /etc/crypttab, and then MOST IMPORTANTLY, add KEYFILE_PATTTERN="/etc/luks/*.keyfile" to /etc/cryptsetup-initramfs/conf-hook, set those files chmod 0400 and the directory 0500, and add UMASK=0077 to /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.con [04:06] tomreyn: you really kick ass. thanks for the thoughtful help. [04:08] oceanquake: i copy + pasted this from TJ (not currently here), a(nother) regular here who gave me this hint [04:09] AWest21: gnome extensions are sketchy. i would be very careful about them. if you have to go so far as to package them yourself then this is definitely further than i'd be willing to go. [04:10] AWest21: you can manage gnome extensions from your webbrowser: https://extensions.gnome.org i think [04:11] tomreyn i'm just trying to get cast-to-tv so I can cast to my chromecast. I heard this app is better then vlc or mkchromecast https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1544/cast-to-tv/ [04:11] but think about what it means to install some random non vetted snippets from the web into your desktop. [04:11] nojimon: did unomunting and replugging work thoughß [04:11] ? [04:12] tomreyn, still mounting additional drives now i hav four [04:13] nojimon: can you not unmount and remove them? [04:13] try right-clicking the mount option after unomunting it [04:14] AWest21: Joey has a how to: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/01/chromecast-tv-gnome-shell-extension?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29 . [04:15] thats where i found out about it bashing-om but his directions must be out-dated? his say go to the link I gave and slide the toggle to activate an installer but I only get an option to download a .zip that I cannot extract and compile [04:16] Swant: Ouch ... Sorry end of my knowledge as I do not run Gnome. [04:17] AWest21: then you dont have the firefox extension installed [04:17] visit https://extensions.gnome.org/ with firefox [04:18] no cant unmount and running apt purge nt clearing out additional old ones [04:18] read the warning about installing the extension. consider the risks and if you feel fine with it then do it. then visit https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1544/cast-to-tv/ again and flip the switch again [04:18] AWest21: ^ [04:19] nojimon: "apt purge nt"? [04:19] nojimon: what happens when you click on the "umount" icon next to one of the mounts on nautilus? [04:21] Hi, I have defined a udev rule which fires upon plugging a USB mouse in. Problem is, at the time the rule fires, the mouse is not ready (it takes about 5-10 seconds before device is ready) any ideas to fix this? [04:22] sleep, or find out how to detect that it is ready, and check for it. [04:22] tried sleep. it doesn't work because it blocks the whole process [04:24] i.e. if the mouse normally takes 8 seconds before its available and I put a "sleep 30" in the script. it now just takes 38 seconds before the hardware is ready [04:26] 8 seconds for device initalization is pretty long already, could it be a hardware issue? [04:27] well its 8 seconds for everything, from hardware to udev to X itself - so I don't see that as indicative of a hardware issue [04:27] also, I have a usb keyboard , and that also takes about the same time before the keys start working [04:28] Bashing-om, tomreyn its installed now saying i can launch it from the "status menu"???? [04:28] agio: hmm thats definitely longer than what i'd expect to see. have a look at dmesg, maybe it gives away some more clues. [04:29] AWest21: i'm not sure which one that is [04:31] AWest21: actually the screenshot on the extensions' README explains [04:31] tomreyn: looking at dmesg (or Xorg logs) does show the event, but nothing I can use. I think I'm just going to define a systemd service and timer which calls xinput every minute - its going to flood syslog - but its the only thing I can think of [04:31] AWest21: it's the menu which includes the power icon [04:32] agio: i can't really suggest anything there, lack understanding. [04:33] * tomreyn afk for a while [04:34] Im facing error while compiling from git [04:35] Mostly on qt themes [04:35] and they're compiling perfectly without errors on any other distro [04:35] Um using kubuntu atm [04:36] facing errors when using "make" [04:36] for example when compiling https://github.com/alex47/BreezeBlurred [04:36] sweet tomreyn found it. second and last question is there an easy way to configure 18.10 to have a verbose boot up vs a purple screen? [04:37] Im getting these errors on sudo make install [04:37] ntoNothingness  ~/BreezeBlurred/build   master  sudo make install [04:37] [ 4%] Automatic MOC for target breezeblurred [04:37] [ 4%] Built target breezeblurred_autogen [04:37] [ 9%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/breezeblurred.dir/breezebutton.cpp.o [04:37] In file included from /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtGui/QColor:1, [04:37] !paste [04:37] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [04:38] ^~~~~~~~~ [04:38] iswctype [04:38] make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/breezeblurred.dir/build.make:87: CMakeFiles/breezeblurred.dir/breezebutton.cpp.o] Error 1 [04:38] make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:105: CMakeFiles/breezeblurred.dir/all] Error 2 [04:38] make: *** [Makefile:130: all] Error 2 [04:38] and you might want to reask in #kubuntu [04:38] Okay sory [04:38] oh no, no paste like that, the servers go bonkers [04:38] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rf6QjDBjTT/ [04:39] Heres the pastebin [04:41] They're getting compiled properly on manjaro or any other distro [04:44] tons of issues indeed, not exactly written for kubuntu .. contact the author ? https://store.kde.org/p/1221562 [04:44] see the comments :-( [04:47] the comments do say it works well with ubuntu and kde neon [04:47] and people have said it is working for them on kde neon [04:49] Anyone around that might be able to help answer a question about why a bcache backed LVM on Luks device isn't expanding? [04:59] anyone know how to make 18.10 do a verbose boot up instead of purple screen? [05:00] tomreyn: had to step afk for a bit; my gratitude wasn't directed to the key hit specifically (I am actually doing something like that already), but rather an appreciation for the level of help you are providing overall. [05:00] /s/hit/hint/ [05:09] Is there any way to install ubuntu using a 4g modem? [05:11] I'm having some memory issues. My system monitor reports 92% usage of ram, but from the avg I can sum from top I estimate it way lower. I installed smem to double check and it reports 21% as unused memory and 11% as other. 21% is obviously more than 8 reported from system monitor/top. Any idea of what might be going on? 16gb + 2 swap . Not so many stuff running to justify that. [05:14] MadLamb: https://www.linuxatemyram.com/ [05:16] energizer, interesting but i dont think its the case [05:17] energizer, free -m also reports low "available" memory and I'm actualty looking at this because i was getting the almost full memory freeze [05:17] energizer, swap is completely full [05:30] AWest21, I don't see an answer to you, but hit (for edit) at grub, go to linux (kernel) line and remove the "nosplash quiet" line I think is what you are after.. [05:56] guiverc so just commet out "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash""?? [05:57] AWest21: yes, and update-grub [05:58] AWest21: this is if you want it changed permanently, not just for a single boot [05:58] sorry AWest21, I only saw your last line (not history) so I assumed question was a once-off how to boot [05:59] no i want a permanent verbose boot [05:59] thanks tomreyn [05:59] AWest21: so edit it in /etc/default/grub [06:00] raj: you're welcome [06:01] how come gksu gedit /etc/default/grub doesnt work in 18.10 tomreyn? [06:01] AWest21: i dont know, does it say? [06:02] tomreyn command not found [06:02] AWest21: you can run a terminal and do: sudoedit /etc/default/grub [06:06] tomreyn, ok how do i save in sudoedit? [06:07] AWest21: depends on your editor, is there something like a menu bar on the bottom? [06:08] AWest21: if it looks like this, you hit Ctrl-x: https://i.imgur.com/2hjy4UJ.png [06:10] tomreyn, ugh ok i didnt know it would offer to save after an exit prompt, now its trying to save it as a temp file how do I get it to save the original? -_- [06:11] AWest21: save it as this temporary file, the sudoedit command will make sure it goes to the right file [06:14] -_- [06:20] On bionic the language extra packages only suggest when clicking 'manage installed languages' i think thats not very handy for new users those package are proposed so deep, should i make this a wishlist or is this 'normal 'procedure? https://imgur.com/a/oTcFR7M [06:43] Something really weird has happened... one of my disks was at 99% so I started moving a big directory of random stuff from one disk to another using mv * /files/stuff/ and after I cleared about 100GB I just ctrl+c to stop the move. Upon doing that some of my web services stopped working (refused connection to host -- even though they are running on the server) and my torrent client wont download anything saying permission denied [06:44] teamcoltra: your ubuntu version please? [06:44] Yeah one sec [06:45] 16.04 [06:46] desktop or server? [06:46] desktop edition (but used headless currently) [06:47] teamcoltra: i would suggest deep cleaning system with bleachbit, see where all the leftovers are and reboot after [06:47] teamcoltra: system up to date also? [06:48] lotuspsychje, yeah that was my first step was to make sure I was up-to-date and restart [06:50] teamcoltra: maybe your data move made everything full, system flipping [06:52] lotuspsychje, I still have 42GB left on the one drive and 176G on the one that was full that I moved things from https://hastebin.com/mafedepiha [06:52] (hastebin -> df -h results) [06:55] 99% doesnt look good teamcoltra [06:57] lotuspsychje, I can clean it up but I'm not sure that is my problem as my file drive doesn't have much bearing on any of this... transmission is in my / directory /dev/sda1 19G 15G 2.3G 87% / [06:57] and it's trying to write to my /home directory [06:57] 工业设计院有限公司是专业人才现在比较多企业文化产业之一 [07:02] !zh | comet23 [07:02] comet23: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [07:03] 不过我是你不懂为什么这么不开心我还是喜欢这个哦 [07:11] teamcoltra: full dirs can lead to all sorts of weird behaviours [07:12] teamcoltra: if a cleanup and reboot didnt fix, we can investigate more/deeper [07:16] I have cleaned all my temporary files, and also just deleted a whole bunch of random files that I wasn't overly attached to. https://hastebin.com/jakexadofo [07:16] still having problems :\ [07:16] did you reboot teamcoltra [07:16] Yep [07:17] teamcoltra: ok whats having problems? [07:19] so SABnzbd starts up but "doesn't" at the same time, like I'm looking at the logs and it shows it's listening on port 8080 but trying to connect to it says connection refused. Transmission does start up and I can access it on 9091 but I can't save files as it says "permission denied" [07:23] teamcoltra: connection problem? [07:24] teamcoltra: try restart networking perhaps [07:24] I just saw this in my SABnzb log which might be useful? 2019-01-12 23:23:24,639::INFO::[postproc:187] Completed Download Folder /home/teamcoltra/Downloads/complete is not on FAT [07:25] lotuspsychje, no because I have a bunch of web services that are all running fine, I did also restart my modem just to test that too [07:28] maybe try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and start both sabnzbd and transmission, maybe it spits out usefull errors? [07:32] my bluetooth stopped working. when i click on the bluetooth icon, under the "recent connections" my headset is grayed-out. when i click on adapters, i get an empty window with just a close button. hardware failure? [07:34] lotuspsychje, nothing useful came up the same basic types of logs that are in the log files. I tried adding a torrent again and the permission error remained [07:34] Transmission did crash after which is at least new it hasn't been having any troubles https://hastebin.com/uvewoqoxis.js [07:35] the logs are showing sabnzbd doing it's background work just fine though as though it's running [07:35] I even tried wgetting localhost:8080 just to see if maybe it was some network issue but it also refused [07:36] Connecting to localhost (localhost)|127.0.0.1|:8080... failed: Connection refused. [07:44] teamcoltra: what does: sudo service network-manager restart ? [07:46] I'll have to find out in the morning, thanks for your help. [07:46] hope it helps [07:50] plz [07:50] bluetooth ubuntu [07:50] alternatively, fastest way to drink Steel Reserve [08:09] hiya. Just installed kubuntu 18.04. X is on virtual terminal 1 (ctrl+alt+f1), and now I don't seem to have the ability to have two sessions on at the same time. Previously these were on f7 ad f8. Is there a fix for this? [08:27] Hi [08:28] I installed Ubuntu-Mate 16 LTS on Vmware workstation 14. Then installed open-vm-tools. But pasting into the VM doesn't work [08:29] JadedJ: sounds like a vmware workstation issue. [08:29] !yy.mm | JadedJ [08:29] JadedJ: yy.mm is Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [08:30] Ubuntu MATE 16.04.5 [08:31] new factoid? I love it. [09:11] Sometimes my ssh connection from my desktop to my laptop suddently hangs for 10s or so. I wonder how to debug this. Any ideas? [09:30] no_gravity: are you using Ubuntu or Debian? [09:30] One machine is Ubuntu, the other one Debian. [09:40] no_gravity: you can run both sshd (server) and ssh (client) with increased log verbosity [10:12] how do i fix my ubuntu? [10:12] can i just reinstall the latest version on top of it? [10:12] will i lose any data? [10:13] I am on ubuntu 18.04 and its failing to upgrade [10:14] CoolerZ: if you don't have backups (why?!) and your /home directory is not a separate file system listed on 'df -h' then yes, you will loose your data [10:14] otherwise, just maybe, if things go wrong [10:15] CoolerZ: what are you trying to upgrade 18.04 to? 18.10 then? [10:19] 18.10 is the latest [10:19] but i can't upgrade to it [10:19] sudo apt dist-upgrade fails with Connection failed [ip.address] [10:19] multiple times [10:22] Just installed a fresh KDE Neon...i added a global menu widget which works, but after every reboot the widget does not show a global menu for every programm that got restored from the last kde session until i close and reopen this programm...has someone a fix for this? === mwsb is now known as _mwsb333_ === _mwsb333_ is now known as mwsb === Butterfly^ is now known as Guest37424 [10:46] what exactly grant the user temporary access to sound devices via ACL on console/desktop switch?? [10:47] I found switching of virtual consoles triggers that too, that's beyond logind and udev?? [10:49] i think there's upgrade path only from LTS to LTS CoolerY but don't hold my word for it [11:09]