[11:32] <boxemall> morning. i read that from 19.04 and onwards there will be no more 32bit support. still wondering why there are testing images for 32bits. anyone?
[14:25] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> Hello. Today I installed Lubuntu 1810 on an asus computer with UEFI but at the time of partitioning, besides not being able to erase the entire disk and install, there was also no possibility of GTP installation, just MBR. I did the partition manually and installed as MBR. What are the consequences of installing MBR instead of GTP?
[14:27] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/s6rGM4a.jpg
[14:32] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> Is it normal that on a computer with UEFI only the option to install the Lubuntu 1810 as MBR appears? Is it possible for me to install as GPT I would have to do some BIOS change beforehand?
[14:47] <leszek> lubot: you need to boot the live stick with uefi in uefi mode not csm
[14:48] <lubot> Luis Angel was added by: Luis Angel
[14:49] <lubot> <Luis Angel> Hola tengo lubuntu 14 y mi máquina va un poquito lenta. Obtaria por otra versión menor. Que me recomiendan
[14:50] <leszek> my above answer was for JyotiGomes not lubot. Those damn new ways of communicating via bridges
[14:57] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @Luis Angel [Hola tengo lubuntu 14 y mi máquina va un poquito lenta. Obtaria por otra versión …], Suporte por español es en https://telegram.lubuntu.me/español
[14:57] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Gracias
[15:00] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @leszek [<leszek> lubot: you need to boot the live stick with uefi in uefi mode not csm], In order to boot the live stick in uefi mode, what should i do? Change something on the BIOS? There is a n option to boot the usb stick in uefi mode on the BIOS? or when making the boot device from iso?
[15:03] <leszek> JyotiGomes yeah there should be some option in bootoptions that allows you to either boot the stick in uefi mode or csm mode
[15:03] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/JMiCwpf.jpg Here?
[15:04] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @leszek [<leszek> JyotiGomes yeah there should be some option in bootoptions that allows …], I want to do the installation well because it will be an installation of Lubuntu 18.10 on all the computers of a training center in my school (more than ten computers all with Lubuntu 18.10) 😊
[15:09] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> There may be a BIOS option to disable Legacy mode and force UEFI mode to show only GPT. But the strange thing is that the Calamares (Lubuntu 1810) did not show the option to choose between GPT or MBR, only showed the MBR possibility.
[15:12] <leszek> JyotiGomes calamares shows MBR only if the stick is booted in CSM/BIOS compatibility mode
[15:12] <leszek> So you need to find a way to boot in UEFI mode. My fancy new UEFI like BIOS on a HP Laptops shows me two boot entries for my live usb stick. One of them is a legacy bios mode the other one the newer UEFI mode
[15:28] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @leszek [<leszek> So you need to find a way to boot in UEFI mode. My fancy new UEFI like …], Ok, thanks. Tomorrow i will install on the next Computers and i will pay atention to this. i want use the GPT mode not because of the partition size but because i am afraid tha with MBR the Lubuntu would be more slow...
[15:29] <leszek> JyotiGomes MBR vs GPT has nothing to do with speed
[15:30] <leszek> only reason to use GPT would be you need more than 4 partitions and don't want to deal with extended partitions of the MBR world. Or you need and want efi booting. If you don't need that and don't want that then stick to MBR and classic CSM/BIOS Legacy booting
[15:30] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @leszek [<leszek> JyotiGomes MBR vs GPT has nothing to do with speed], Even not with the boot speed?
[15:32] <leszek> even not with the boot speed. Your hardware isn't going to become faster just by using one over the other. Of course maybe there is a BIOS/UEFI difference in initializing booting from UEFI vs CSM device but thats should be neglectable
[15:32] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> Lubuntu 1810 will be the only one OS in the computers. And will have just two partitios, the boot and the root
[15:34] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> 400 MB for boot, almost 400 for root
[15:37] <leszek> 400GB I hope :P
[15:37] <leszek> for root
[15:39] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @leszek [<leszek> for root], Yes 😊
[15:47] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @leszek [<leszek> even not with the boot speed. Your hardware isn't going to become faste …], Using MBR will not transform a 64bit computer in a 32 bit?
[15:54] <leszek> JyotiGomes nope of course not. Just maybe read what MBR is. Its a special sector reserved for booting the system on old PCs. It cannot transform your hardware into ARM or make your CPU only understand 32bit instructions :P
[16:42] <lubot> <aptghetto> @JyotiGomes if you don‘t encrypt, you don‘t need a separate /boot partition
[16:43] <lubot> <aptghetto> And the partition table is not really related to the boot mode
[16:54] <leszek> even if you encrypt you don't need a separate /boot partition
[16:54] <leszek> full disk encryption is supported since years I think
[16:56] <apt-ghetto> EFI and full-disk encrpytion does not work on lubuntu 18.10, and the other *buntus have a separate boot partition for full-disk encryption (using the automatic installer)
[16:58] <leszek> its not full disk encryption if you have a non encrypted boot partition
[17:00] <apt-ghetto> With this definition, you will never have a full-disk encryption with EFI, because the EFI-System-Partition is never encrypted (afaik)
[19:33] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> My friends, one more question: on the computers of the school where I am installing Lubuntu 1810 I want to separate the ordinary users (students who will use Lubuntu 1810) and the administrator so that students can not make changes that require sudo. For this, I can simply add another user and mark in this group space just as user,
[19:33] <lubot>  correct?
[19:33] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> (Photo, 866x645) https://i.imgur.com/BRNFpP9.jpg
[19:47] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I'm not sure which acces "users" has. For example, it might not be able to mount drives (usb sticks for instance) either check which permissions "user" has and/or test it.
[19:57] <lubot> FISHER91 was added by: FISHER91
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