| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Wasn't Amazon rated as one if the most toxic places to work in America | 00:02 |
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| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Like they seem to run on a burn & churn schedule | 00:03 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I think you're right about the pay and you can do way better! | 00:07 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Yeah. They didn't want to talk about it. But, working for Amazon would be like working for Microsoft or something. There's some prestige there. | 00:10 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Are you moving away from us? :( | 00:17 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I have to say after starting at jails documentation for a while it's starting to click, I had to cover a lot of basic ground I wasn't familiar with though, like CIDR notation | 00:33 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> *staring | 00:33 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> But it's kind of genius how simple it is. It's not a packaged up tool. It's assembled from other parts of the operating system, so it's actually a composite of very simple concepts. | 00:34 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> @RazPi, CIDR notation for ipv4? | 00:36 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Yes, I suck at networking | 00:36 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I finally came across some good docs that explained historically what classless even meant | 00:36 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> oh eh - I saw CIDR but no mention of anything network located. like "Am I thinking of the right CIDR?" lol | 00:37 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Yep! | 00:37 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> classful as a concept needs to die | 00:37 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I didn't even know it was a thing so the history lesson helped | 00:37 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> It's like Subnet 0 | 00:37 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> just, 'go away' with these old ideas lol | 00:37 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> That's cool tho | 00:38 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> the only use I had for classful was for fleshing out a subnet calculator | 00:38 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> if you're anywhere near network design tho, you'll probably hear/talk about it daily | 00:39 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> because it's easier to say a private class c instead of 192.x.x.x or other mouth drudgery | 00:39 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> So 'R' is hard | 00:41 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> If you go in with a 'imma programmer' mindset it's a pita | 00:42 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> it feels like excel on a console window | 00:42 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> thinking about it as 'text excel' makes me feel better | 00:42 |
| floridagram-bot | <gillymomo> Aaaahhh CIDR | 00:43 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> you don't have arrays, they're 'vectors' | 00:43 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> no strings, ints, doubles, floars, chars | 00:43 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> no no --- 'numerics' 'somethingelsedumbforstrings' | 00:43 |
| floridagram-bot | <gillymomo> Speaking of, I need to go and do CCNP | 00:45 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> @gillymomo, git r dun m8 | 00:45 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> how far in? | 00:45 |
| floridagram-bot | <gillymomo> I have time | 00:46 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Is it anything like Matlab? | 00:46 |
| floridagram-bot | <gillymomo> I have CCNA | 00:46 |
| floridagram-bot | <gillymomo> And Net+ | 00:46 |
| floridagram-bot | <gillymomo> I want Linux+ | 00:46 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> @RazPi, Me and a Matlab guy were complaining about these 'ism's last week | 00:46 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> ah certs =\ | 00:46 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> My lfcs just expired | 00:47 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> ccna just renewed | 00:47 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> ccnp in prog - but then job things happened and I'm rolled off my backbone | 00:47 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I don't know if R is matrix oriented but Matlab certainly is and it shows | 00:47 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> the bit I've played with makes me thing it's very heavy on vectors and matrices | 00:48 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> like, you have data | 00:48 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> and you do stuff with it | 00:48 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Do you get conditionals? | 00:48 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> but you're gonna almost always present in via vector/matrix | 00:48 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> You probably have sums and standard deviations built in then? | 00:49 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> @RazPi, I'm not sure tbh. I've gone as far as basic <, >, <= like tests | 00:49 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> there are built-ins like sum and c | 00:49 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> like I'm used to something like my_list = ['a', 'b', 'c'] | 00:50 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> R equiv: my_list <- c('a', 'b', 'c') | 00:50 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> if my_list were ints (or w/e R calls em) ---- my_sums = sum(my_list) | 00:50 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> but if you have a vector like that, and you're gonna make humans look at it | 00:51 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> you can literally name the indices of the vector | 00:51 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> ^ basically 'headers' for an excel sheet | 00:51 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> name(my_list) <- c("alpha", "bravo", "charlie") | 00:52 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> it's good for statisitics, should say a lot I suppose. R -> statistics as Matlab -> academia/numbers | 00:53 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> it's all foreign to me, so ya | 00:54 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> But I'm porting a matlab application over to R as an Rshiny dashboard in the next few weeks - so I'll uh, figure it out I guess | 00:55 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> @AdamOutler, Be frank about pay, get da mark on da resume, go elsewhere after ~2 years :D | 00:56 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> ^I apologize for the stream of conciousness | 00:56 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> Work has me wired | 00:58 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> @Abrerr Are you sure you want to go R? I thought Octave was supposed to be the MatLab clone | 01:01 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I actually just installed Octave too | 01:01 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> I want to all Python. But work is turning into an R shop. I'm not sure of the benefit - but it wasn't my decision :\ | 01:01 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Do they have a lot of statistics people there or is it a buzzword for them? | 01:02 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> Instead of just crunching numbers, I feel like with Python I can get stuff done on top of crunching the numbers | 01:02 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I think in statistics your underlying number representation may matter, I'm not sure if python suffers from rounding errors or not | 01:02 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> @RazPi, One of our 'higher ups' likes R -- so kinda makes it a done deal I guess. lol | 01:02 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> .. do they use it? | 01:02 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I like common lisp but I can't reasonably convert anyone yet XD | 01:03 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> depending on accuracy, numpy is probably accurate enough for most cases | 01:03 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> @RazPi, software team is redoing an entire database/delivery system to work in R | 01:03 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I do admit, matplot lib can be -really nice- | 01:03 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> holy cow | 01:04 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> I've heard R suffers in large datasets | 01:04 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> and ours are pretty sizeable | 01:04 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> R is supposed to have tons of visualization support | 01:06 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> another reason for R | 01:06 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> I'll just keep doing my personal tools in python | 01:06 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> #rebel | 01:06 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> XD | 01:07 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I'm going to trudge along with octave | 01:08 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> 'largely' compatible | 01:08 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> drop-in ready compat? | 01:08 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> ?iiiiiiiii just bricked my work phone? | 01:11 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> wha? | 01:12 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> It just stopped working. Doesn't power on - plugging in the charger makes no difference | 01:14 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> I'm lost. | 01:15 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> D: | 01:15 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> It has my 'secure token' for work vpn. | 01:15 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> I still have a few more hours of work to do | 01:16 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> guesssssssssssssss I'm going back to work. ugh | 01:16 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> Wrapping up a work meeting | 01:27 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> So weird thing | 01:51 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> My laptop seems to be able to surf networks before accepting the guest login page | 01:51 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I don't know if that's just me or something that usually happens | 01:52 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I'm just using the basic ifconfig wlan0 with wpa_supplicant.conf | 01:52 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> you're bypassing a captive portal on a guest wifi? | 01:52 |
| floridagram-bot | <Ivoriesablaze> weird is subjective | 01:52 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Not on purpose? | 01:53 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I just didn't notice I was surfing without it | 01:53 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> then I accepted it and suddenly I could use pkg install again | 01:53 |
| floridagram-bot | <Ivoriesablaze> yeah, i went there | 01:54 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> @Ivoriesablaze I want to call my window manager "Y2K" | 01:54 |
| floridagram-bot | <Ivoriesablaze> why? | 01:54 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> He must like 5k's | 01:55 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Because my UI nostalgia heralds back to 2000 | 01:56 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> The gimp 2.10 splash screen looks very nice and professional | 01:57 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> Octave looks nice @RazPi | 02:03 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> It's used in Andrew Ng's machine learning course | 02:05 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> VScode huehuehue | 02:13 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> @RazPi, I need to get in on that | 02:13 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> R strsplit returns a nested vector | 02:30 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> much derp, I r feeling | 02:30 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> There should be some syntax sugar for that? | 02:42 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> https://www.iecc.com/linker/ | 02:42 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Found another nice page | 02:42 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> dbl bracket to specify the indice of the returned vector :\ | 02:43 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> subvector ** | 02:43 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> I'm trying to suffer through a dice roller | 02:44 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> I'll link you a gist or pastebin after if you want | 02:44 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Sure! | 03:01 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> https://pastebin.com/0wWHHttB | 03:16 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> take input: 6d12 - and sum all rolls | 03:18 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> no for loops to populate a list to sum later | 03:18 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> sample() does that all on it's own, returning a vector or ints/numerics. you provide a range and number of elements you want | 03:20 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> ^ just weird stuff like that. | 03:20 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> It looks simple enough, but stumbling through R :\ | 03:20 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> soo manyy examples! https://matplotlib.org/gallery/index.html | 05:07 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6L8Q61N4fM | 05:27 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> @Abrerr I don't know whether to be horrify or amazed that you did string manipulation with that xD | 08:05 |
| floridagram-bot | <govatent> Free GOLD STATUS with CHASE. Save 5¢/gallon at Shell throughout 2019 … https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/12638053 | 15:00 |
| floridagram-bot | <govatent> @KMyers | 15:01 |
| floridagram-bot | <govatent> If you still have those, it may be worth trying to stack it with the tmobile offer | 15:01 |
| floridagram-bot | <SivaMachina> Us Weekly: Betty White Turns 97, Is Still ‘Waiting for Robert Redford to Call’. … https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/betty-whites-feeling-great-on-her-97th-birthday-her-one-wish/ | 16:59 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> @SivaMachina, She is being kept safe and being wrapped in buddle wrap before being put back in cold storage | 17:01 |
| floridagram-bot | <ahoneybun> God the Florida DMV is shit... | 17:08 |
| floridagram-bot | <ahoneybun> They have no digital forms. | 17:09 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> You are in Florida? | 17:13 |
| floridagram-bot | <ahoneybun> Nope. | 17:34 |
| floridagram-bot | <ahoneybun> It's for my motorcycle. | 17:34 |
| floridagram-bot | <govatent> Is the cycle still registered in Florida? | 18:00 |
| floridagram-bot | <ahoneybun> Yes I need the title but there is a loan on it. | 18:07 |
| floridagram-bot | <govatent> Btw, make sure you don't tell them the cycle has been in Colorado for over a year. They make you pay back taxes on registration | 18:51 |
| floridagram-bot | <ahoneybun> That's bull crap. | 19:43 |
| floridagram-bot | <ahoneybun> @govatent thanks for the heads up though. | 22:16 |
| floridagram-bot | <ahoneybun> I might never get the bike a CO plate with the madness. | 22:16 |
| floridagram-bot | <govatent> Tell them your folks just got it to you | 22:16 |
| floridagram-bot | <ahoneybun> Bank says I need to talk to the Florida DMV for a copy of the title and Florida DMV says to talk to the Bank. | 22:17 |
| floridagram-bot | <ahoneybun> Just stupid. | 22:17 |
| floridagram-bot | <ahoneybun> The bike is covered by State Farm that's all I should need. | 22:18 |
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