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OerHeksand wonder about lm18.3 .. same drivers00:00
MythikosWhich is nuts00:00
MythikosMy girlfriend was using the DS4 gamepad via bluetooth on LM 18.3 to play Stardew Valley not long ago00:01
OerHeksnow there is an xbox controller connected?00:01
TJ-Mythikos: can you show us the entire 'dmesg' just in case there are other clues?00:01
MythikosOdd that the WiFi has worked flawlessly00:01
OerHeksthat has BT too, maybe bites00:01
MythikosYeah, that's fine00:01
MythikosWhat is the command?00:02
OerHeksjounalctl -b 000:03
MythikosBear with me. I didn't even get my hands on a Windows 2000 machine until I was in my twenties.00:03
TJ-Mythikos: "pastebinit <( journalctl -b )"00:03
OerHeksoops journalctl -b 000:03
Mythikoshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6tXHJCJNHt/00:04
TJ-Doesn't this kind of thing give you confidence in the manufacturer - not! "DMI: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. To be filled by O.E.M./F2A88X-D3H, BIOS F6 04/09/2015"00:05
MythikosI think Line 38 is due to my having Secure Boot Disabled in the UEFI00:06
MythikosUnrelated00:06
MythikosLine 85 concerns me00:08
MythikosI really wish hardware manufacturers cared more about Linux users. Upsetting that they don't produce a driver for Linux distros most times00:09
MythikosI need to locate the manufacturers that do and support them instead00:10
donofrio_why does the installer need 'secureboot passwd' for 3rd party drivers?00:18
MythikosAnd all the king's horses, and all the king's men, couldn't make bluetooth work on Linux again00:18
GrievreI apologize if this is already implemented in newer releases as I mostly use 14.04 and 18.04, but: Is there an easy way to install with LUKS but with no swap volume? (most of the systems I administer should never need one)00:18
OerHeksdonofrio_, i think you have a password on the bios enabled00:21
OerHeksdonofrio_, or they are not from our sources, then you have to play with MOK utils00:22
donofrio_mok?00:23
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot#MOK_generation_and_signing_process00:24
OerHeksbut maybe you better explain what driver etc00:24
TJ-Mythikos: the problem really looks like a genuine hardware issue - in that the device is detected but trying to talk to it results in a -ETIMEOUT (-110)00:24
MythikosTJ-, I agree, but the fact that it "just worked" in LM 18.3 has me all sorts of confused00:27
MythikosI'm trying to remember if I had done anything to make that the case00:28
TJ-Mythikos: rattled the case maybe? nudged a connector?00:29
TJ-Mythikos: mini-PCIe card not completely aligned with the pins in the connector?00:29
TJ-Mythikos: with the iwlwifi kernel panic too I think there's somethin systemic going on right now at least00:29
MythikosTJ-, Not likely. I did install Blueman, which LM didn't have native. But Ubuntu already had it. I was stoked00:30
MythikosI guess I could remove, clean, and reseat the adapter, maybe even try the other F_USB port on my MoBo00:30
TJ-Mythikos: hmmm, this isn't a mini-PCIe card?00:31
MythikosTJ-, It is actually. With a cable for the F_USB bluetooth00:32
TJ-Mythikos: oh, it's PCIe - I have one of those!00:33
TJ-Mythikos: it's in another office, I'll jump across and check what it reports00:34
MythikosTJ-, https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GC-WB867D-I-rev-42#ov00:34
MythikosGigabyte made it, but Intel drives the Bluetooth portion00:34
byterHi, I have a problem connecting to a VPN with Lubuntu00:34
byterIt attempts to connect, then reverts back to normal network00:34
TJ-Mythikos: you're in luck, I have the same model: "Bus 007 Device 002: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp."00:36
TJ-Mythikos: "kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Firmware revision 0.1 build 185 week 49 2017"00:37
TJ-Mythikos: show us "pastebinit <( ls -l /lib/firmware/intel/ )"00:38
macwinuntuare there any next-level lizard lords here who can help me with my triple boot iMac (OSX, Win, Ubuntu) and rEFInd?00:44
byterhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7YeP6qBQhhIJ:https://robpickering.com/triple-boot-macbook-pro-macos-windows-10-linux/%2Btriple+boot+macbook+pro+refind&gbv=1&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&ct=clnk00:47
bytermacwinuntu: look there00:47
macwinuntunot what you think, byter00:47
bytero h00:47
bytermy bad00:47
macwinuntuno worries00:47
OerHeksthere is a way without refind https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/310451/triple-boot-macos-high-sierra-ubuntu-and-windows-without-refind00:48
OerHeksbut i am no mac expert00:48
MythikosTJ-, I'll be in and out. I'm testing some things00:55
TJ-Mythikos: I just noticed for some situations, to use bluetoothctl, you may need sudo. Try "sudo bluetoothctl" then "show" when you think the hardware has loaded its firmware01:01
Mythikosok01:01
MythikosTJ-, No luck01:04
MythikosTJ-, Also, I unplugged the F_USB cord from the adapter, and now I cannot get Blueman to open...? Maybe it is stuck01:05
TJ-Mythikos: I would ignore GUI tooling for now, work with the core01:05
MythikosTJ-,  Fair enough01:06
TJ-Mythikos: Make sure the firmware files are there. if you do "modinfo -F firmware btintel" it'll list the file(s) it *may* use, compare that with "ls /lib/firmware/intel/" to ensure the files exist and aren't zero-length or something silly01:06
Mythikosintel/ibt-12-16.ddc01:07
Mythikosintel/ibt-12-16.sfi01:07
Mythikosintel/ibt-11-5.ddc01:07
Mythikosintel/ibt-11-5.sfi01:07
MythikosChecking01:07
TJ-Mythikos: careful else you'll get quietened by the bot for pasting to channel.01:09
TJ-Mythikos: also, you could try removing the module and re-inserting it. As in "sudo modprobe -r btintel && sudo modprove btintel" instead of needing to reboot - whilst you are testing01:10
MythikosTJ-, https://imgur.com/a/NSwCnx2 Seems in order01:11
MythikosThat command yielded: modprobe: FATAL: Module btintel is in use.01:12
TJ-Mythikos: I also noticed that /etc/dbus-1/system.d/bluetooth.conf says that to be able to use bluetoothctl (because it uses dbus to talk to bluetoothd) the owner of the process should be 'root', a member of 'bluetooth' or 'lp' groups - my user is a member of 'lpadmin' which is why I can use bluetoothctl without sudo01:12
MythikosI see01:13
TJ-Mythikos: I'd recommend trying to unload/reload the btintel module and see if you get a better result. once you've done that check the kernel log for any errors with "dmesg | tail "01:14
hardlinerI am trying to use ubuntu MATE and it's asking for a password to unlock the login keyring but it never asked to set a password during install. What do I do?01:14
Mythikoshardliner, Did you use encryption during install?01:15
hardlinerNo.01:15
OerHeksthen keyring might well be your user password, or blank01:15
OerHeksor does it ask to setup?01:16
hardlinerI pressed enter but it did not take it.01:16
MythikosTJ-, http://susepaste.org/view//728568101:16
MythikosIt is still reporting the same failure01:16
hardlinerIt never asked to set it up.01:16
TJ-Mythikos: got to be a hardware error then. It fails to get the hardware version so it doesn't get as far as being able to determine which firmware file to load01:18
MythikosBluetooth: hci0: Reading Intel version information failed (-110)01:18
hardlinerFor example, I'm trying to install pi-hole and I typed curl -sSL https://install.pi-hole.net | bash and responds with [sudo] password for pi:01:19
MythikosI'm going to web search this error01:19
MythikosTJ-, http://susepaste.org/view//6125548901:22
MythikosTJ-, http://susepaste.org/view//418375201:27
TJ-Mythikos: none of that is going to help. You've got a *hardware* issue, either the device has died or it is somehow not connected correctly01:28
MythikosGuess I'll have to return it then. It is less than one month old01:29
MythikosAlready tested both F_USB ports01:30
TJ-Mythikos: do you have another PC you could test in?01:32
MythikosUp until yesterday, I had it working on Windows 7, but I deleted it and dedicated this drive to Ubuntu. I'm installing Windows 10 on another drive in a few days when it arrives. Dual booting is a pain, so I'm upgrading :p01:33
MythikosSo not currently01:34
MythikosI could just return it. Any suggestions for a replacement for WiFi and Bluetooth (for Ubuntu 18.04 and Windows 10)?01:35
MythikosSomething more compatible would be nice01:35
MythikosGonna reboot. brb01:37
MythikosTJ-, Wait, have you seen this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/632336/bluetooth-broadcom-43142-isnt-working01:38
TJ-Mythikos: that is unrelated to your device01:41
MythikosOkay. Got it01:42
MythikosMine is Intel01:42
MythikosWell, I'm sending this one back. I'll be back with updates at some point01:43
MythikosThank you for your help01:43
energizeri just did `sudo apt remove --purge weechat` and it said it did it, but i still have /usr/bin/weechat01:48
energizerah, weechat-curses01:50
cYnIxX3I found the source of my login loop was to backup .config and copy it in from another user. So what part of ~/.config would cause a login loop where the desktop shows for a moment then logs out?01:53
ZabotI'm pulling my hair out over audio issues with pulse and alsa and I've run out of ideas. I've got a system running 14.04 (its legacy) There is a USB camera with a microphone connected and an analog output for speakers, but I can't get any audio to work. Trying to set the audio device to analog output creates a dummy output device and autoselects it, no audio is heard from the speakers at all, and occasionally the speakers output the microphone input but01:54
Zabotnothing else for seemingly no reason. aplay -l lists all the expected devices, the devices are confirmed working, any troubleshooting ideas would be appreciated.01:54
MythikosTJ-, Any suggestions for another Bluetooth adapter?01:56
TJ-Mythikos: Anything Intel-based - open-source and easy access to firmware :)01:57
TJ-Mythikos: which is what you've got. Those were the reasons I chose that model, too.01:58
cYnIxX3Zabot, maybe setting a default device? https://askubuntu.com/questions/150851/how-do-i-select-a-default-sound-card-with-alsa01:58
MythikosTJ-, Okay. I'll send for a replacement01:59
MythikosI'll let you know how it goes01:59
MythikosCheers!01:59
TJ-Mythikos: silly question but have you tried it in a different PCIe slot on the mobo?01:59
phelixWould anyone know how or why my start menu when I try to put my mouse over it. I can see through the transparent part the mouse is reacting to whats behind it. Clicking anything on the menu just closes it02:01
ZabotcYnIxX3: Interesting, pactl list sinks doesn't show anything thats obviously my audio output02:01
cYnIxX3Zabot, pactl may not be related to alsa I found as I read on. Maybe aslamixer?02:02
ZabotcYnIxX3: alsamixer appears to be trying to use the HDMI device as output and doesn't see the analog output02:03
cYnIxX3Zabot, maybe thats part of the issue?02:04
cYnIxX3I have not used alsa, just trying to open ideas.02:04
ZabotPossibly, guess I've got some more debugging to do02:05
fareastcan someone help give me some enlightenment on desktop environment?02:06
cYnIxX3depends on the level of enlightenment fareast02:06
fareastIs ubuntu default environment gnome 3?02:06
cYnIxX3regarding which version?02:06
[n0mad]yessish02:06
cYnIxX3installed or updated to?02:06
fareasthow does gnome extensions integrate?02:07
fareastsame tweak tool? or something different?02:07
fareastI am guessing ubuntu team has thought about the interface over and over and this is what they came up with and it is for a reason....02:08
* cYnIxX3 thinks your being a bit vague02:09
fareastlike the launch bar  on the side for instance is it really better there?02:09
fareastshould I hide it02:09
fareastshould I put it on the bottom02:09
fareastwhat is your opinion.02:09
[n0mad]where would you like it?02:09
cYnIxX3I would think you can do whatever fits your screen and usage best.02:09
[n0mad]mine just sits right on the left hand side where it came02:10
fareastyou would think hiding it would give more screen real estate right02:10
fareastI like screen real estate.02:10
[n0mad]how small is your screen?02:10
fareastits a laptop02:10
fareast15.502:10
fareast1920. 108002:10
fareastso its not bad02:10
[n0mad]i personally wouldnt think you're gaining that much if you hide it but you may just like that better02:10
cYnIxX3I dont like hiding it. Gets in the way of a browser back button.02:10
fareastright like it will pop on you.02:11
fareastmakes sense..02:11
fareastwhat I really want is a widget or top bar extension that does everything with system resources temperature etc.02:12
cYnIxX3if you have a wider than taller monitor and are not hiding it having it on the side lets youtube expand better.02:12
fareasthow can I fool a webpage into thinking i am using windows instead of linux?02:14
phelixAnyone have any idea what would cause my mouse to see through my menu. If that even makes sense.02:15
fareastmaybe a graphics issue02:16
fareastif something isn't displaying properly its most definitely corrected with graphics driver.02:16
phelixBrand new install. Its worked with this video card and this version of Ubuntu for many different installs.02:16
[n0mad]fareast: https://extensions.gnome.org/ should have extensions for system monitor type stuff02:16
fareasti mean i just been running sensors command02:17
phelixI can click the dock and the dock menu button. But then the transparent menu that appears. If I have a web page or something behind it. I can see the mouse is activating items on the page. Trying to click anywhere on this just closes it.02:17
phelixSo I can't launch aps02:17
fareastProcessor Fan:    0 RPM02:18
fareastCPU:            +38.0°C02:18
fareastAmbient:        +33.0°C02:18
fareastSODIMM:         +34.0°C02:18
fareastOther:          +30.0°C02:18
byterDoes anyone here have Lubuntu?02:18
fareastcore 1 and 2 running 39 degrees celcius02:18
[n0mad]phelix: maybe restart gnome, assuming that's your DE02:18
SlidingHornbyter:  you're better off just asking your question.  If someone knows the answer, they'll respond :)02:20
Kumoolor they'll say offtopic and ask you to leave02:20
OerHekssudo apt install gnome-shell-extensions gnome-tweak tool # logout/login and have fun02:20
byterHow can I configure VPN on Lubuntu?02:20
SlidingHornbyter: that's a pretty broad question, could you narrow that down a little?02:22
byterpptp02:22
byteror l2tp02:22
byterI'm having pproblems connecting02:22
byterIt loads as if it's connecting then disconnects02:24
pavlosbyter: have you installed network-manager-openvpn and network-manager-openvpn-gnome ?02:24
byterYes02:24
pavlosbyter: on a terminal, tail -f /var/log/syslog then try connecting and see the messages02:25
deadc0deGood morning guys02:27
deadc0deI'm running 18.10, and am on wifi with an openconnect VPN connection atm. somehow however, the tunnel keeps failing. The connection shows it's established, but the routing table's messed up02:28
deadc0dewhen I do the same thing from the commandline using the openconnect cli client it all works like a charm02:28
deadc0deany idea what could be going on?02:28
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sebsebsebhi02:57
fareastanyone know how to spoof a website into thinking you are using windows 10 over ubuntu?03:28
sebsebsebfareast: yes03:28
sebsebsebfareast: user agent switcher extension for Firefox03:28
fareastok imma try03:29
fareastthanks03:29
sebsebsebfareast: what kind of siste ?03:29
fareastneed flash03:33
fareastits xfinity's site03:33
fareastthey don't like android and they don't like linux03:33
fareastso I can watch tv03:33
fareastcan i install adobe flash to firefox?03:33
fareastI thought they dropped support03:34
fareastlooks like i might have to goto chrome and pepperflash03:35
fareastdo they have the same extension for chrome i wonder.03:35
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roothorickOkay, I've narrowed down the issue a bit. For some reason wide-dhcpv6-client sets an expiry of 3600 seconds for the prefix and then never ever renews it. So the kernel just times it out and it's gone04:41
roothorickIs there a different client I should be using?04:41
roothorickFrom what I've read, netplan doesn't support PD. Apparently networkd itself has support but documentation is lacking04:43
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roothoricknetworkd has a bug that breaks PD, which was fixed in v240. I'm on 18.04 LTS. Great.05:02
sparrI am using linux on a laptop that will be frequently connected and disconnected from a specific combination of external monitors. I would like the features of a heavy desktop environment like gnome.unity or kde/plasma, but also the ability to put certain virtual desktops onto specific external monitors when available, and have good configurable control over which desktops which windows/apps open on. Can05:08
sparranyone recommend a DE/wm for me? Possibly even a DE with a non-default wm added?05:08
OerHeksmultiple desktops and virtual desktops on specific monitorsand non default , fancy idea05:11
OerHeksmore a question for ##linux, sparr05:11
ellyachtdoes anyone know how or where to get a banner across the bottom of my DE like this person's? https://i.stack.imgur.com/88JUG.png05:16
OerHeksask the owner of that image?05:17
OerHeksfrom 30 07 13, could well be a conky script05:19
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cswlSomehow grub is adding `ro` to the kernel command line :O06:37
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DivamGIn linux traffic controller (tc), is there a way to capture packets from a specific application and apply a different delay per packet?07:33
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tomreynDivamG: the way i understand it, its purpose is priorization, not to induce fixed delays.07:44
DivamGtomreyn: Elaborate?07:45
tomreynDivamG: actually i remember this wrong. you can add delay using e.g. tc qdisc add dev <device> root netem delay 50ms07:50
DivamGYes.07:50
DivamGI was just wondering if I can add delay per application and per packet07:51
DivamG*different delay per packet07:51
tomreynthat's above my pay grade, i'm afraid.07:51
cfhowlett!ping07:59
ubottupong!07:59
tomreynDivamG: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man8/tc-netem.8.html doesn't mention process ids, so i guess with tc-netem the only way would be to use iptables / netfilter to single out traffic of a diven application to a (virtual) NIC and then have tc-netem induce the delay.08:03
tomreynbut... this is a rough guess, i'm not really into this. try asking in ##linux and maybe even ##networking, too.08:03
DivamGtomreyn: Thanks! Looks promising.08:04
gigirock#manjaro08:14
tomreynDivamG: in case your goal is research and emulation is an option http://www.brianlinkletter.com/open-source-network-simulators/08:24
LordDoskiashello when i click reply on an email in thunderbird the reply window started opening BEHIND the main thunderbird window, i'm on ubuntu 18.04 and this used to work properly like 2 weeks ago08:25
LordDoskiasi haven't changed anything in the settings of thunderbird08:25
LordDoskiasok so it's all child windows of thunderbird are composed behind the main one08:26
tomreynLordDoskias: maybe you have changed gnome-shell's settings in terms of what to focus on, such as to focus on what the mouse pointer is on?08:26
LordDoskiasnope08:27
LordDoskiasat least not explicitly how can i check what is the value of this option?>08:27
tomreynphew, somehow with gsettings, i guess.08:27
tomreyngnome-tweaks also makes this configurable i think08:27
tomreyndoes this only happen with thunderbird then, or also with other applications?08:28
DivamGtomreyn: I did check out that link earlier. I'm looking for something where I can set delays per packet. So far, non of the emulators look like they have that feature.08:28
LordDoskiastomreyn, that's a good question but i don't have any other app which composes windows in the same manner08:29
LordDoskiasi.e i use primarily a shell and a web browser08:29
LordDoskiasand thunderbird08:29
tomreynDivamG: oh, that's a pity. i'm afraid i can't provide better recommendations, but aks in the other channels i suggested.08:29
LordDoskiastomreyn, well i tried with my torrent client - its child windows open as expected08:29
DivamGSure, thanks! :)08:30
tomreyn:)08:30
tomreynLordDoskias: which graphical toolkit does thetorrent client use, or which client is it?08:30
LordDoskiasjust looked into gnome-tweaks i don't see any abnormal focus options08:31
LordDoskiasit's transmission08:31
tomreynhmm i think this is also gtk based08:31
tomreyni'm puzzled then. i don't see why one of them would behave different tot he other08:31
kanupatarhi all, I am using ubuntu 18.04.1 version in my desktop and it is running recently well. I noticed one issue while working with the terminal. I will explain the scenario below. I have an application which prints lot of formatted details into the termianl while running. If I switch off the monitor and if I comes and check the terminal after 10 minutes or so, then I am seeing like the prints in the terminal are scattered!08:48
kanupatarAnyone faced such issues?08:48
grr12314After some update my gnome just crashed and disabled all extensions, WTF08:58
stinklegin unity (ubuntu 16.04), how can I disable the "Type your command" alt-gr shortcut from popping up?09:00
LordDoskiastomreyn, i managed to fix it...09:01
EriC^^stinkleg: settings > keyboard  shortcuts09:01
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stinklegEriC^^: ah, found it! excellent, thanks man :)09:04
EriC^^no problem :)09:04
guiverckanupatar, yes I have, but I can't help as to cause (I don't remember; what my situation was, only I `reset` term to normal as quick fix, until I discovered the cause in my case)09:11
kanupatarguiverc: ok, how we reset?09:15
guivercthe command `reset` can be used to reset the terminal,  `clear` may also work; but reset is the correct command (as I recall)09:16
guiverckanupatar, ^09:18
kanupatarok09:19
kanupatarclear I tried many times09:19
kanupatarwhat is the root cause if this issue?09:19
eoli3nhi, i try to install oracle-java11 through ppa, but when i run "add-apt-repository ppa:linuxuprising/java" it hangs, am i alone ?09:20
eoli3nhttps://websiteforstudents.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-jdk-11-on-ubuntu-18-04-16-04-18-10/09:20
guiverci don't know; mine was 4+ years ago which is why I don't recall.  it may have been a script (perl, bash) error for me (wrong color string or something) but I forget..09:20
lindzeynHi all.  I am running AMD® Ryzen 3 2200g with radeon vega graphics × 4 on Ubuntu 18.10 (Budgie).  I am currently using the default graphics drivers, but I am wondering if there is substantial difference between these drivers and AMD's proprietary drivers.09:20
subcoolstupid Q. -How do you install new kernels and apply them for use. I keep running into compiling directions.09:22
anonymipwhat's th best way to make sure a remote SMB-share is always mounted in ubuntu?09:23
subcoolI am trying to install a certain version. And i can apt install it. But- it never applies.09:23
subcoolanonymip, at it to fstab09:23
EriC^^subcool: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should update everything including the kernel, if you want an even newer one then09:23
EriC^^!mainline | subcool09:23
ubottusubcool: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds09:23
Katnipi notice several debian users use 4.19 but yet we are 14.15, is there a reasson09:24
subcoolEriC^^, yeah, i've tried that. No go.09:24
anonymipsubcool, yes, but if the remote share is not available at ubunto startup it wont get mounted?09:24
subcoolKatnip, yeah, im using 4.18- but i cant get any headers. the only headers availabe are for 4.1909:24
Katniphmmm09:24
subcoolanonymip, correct. it might take an extra min to boot, but yea. i use NFS. just be causious, it cant be.... tedious.09:25
ducasseKatnip: 18.04 only gets newer kernels through !hwe, a bit after they're available in a new ubuntu release09:25
anonymipI was thinking about adding mount -a in cron.daily, but maybe thera are better ways09:25
subcooli can install 4.19 - and the headers, but it appears they dont -- append?09:26
guivercKatnip, security patches are backported to Ubuntu release kernels so you can feel safe.  When 18.04.2 is released you can use the HWE kernel (4.18.0 currently)09:26
subcoolanonymip, honestly- idk. i have issues with it often. But thats because my computer likes to randomly crash over non-sense, and im not smart enough to fix it.09:26
subcoolso after install, how do you make it use it?09:27
Katnipguiverc, any clue when 18.0.2 will hitting?09:28
subcooli recall, when i use to do this. I'd have to edit grub. -- which... doesnt have it listed.09:28
Katnip18.04.2 typo09:29
guivercKatnip, feb 7 is ETA according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule  - but HWE may be enabled/start a few days after that09:29
egrainencrypting only the user dir is no longer hip?09:30
subcoolegrain, u can do it.09:30
subcoolbetter have a backup09:31
egraini know i can, but it's not an option in the installation menu.09:31
subcoollvm?09:31
subcoolits very troublesome. i can understand why they took it out.09:31
egrainyeah, that gets automatically selected when you select "encrypt system".09:31
egrainwell, doesn't matter, i guess.09:31
egraini went with the encrypted system.09:32
subcoolsure it does. once i get this up, ill be doing it09:32
subcoolSo no go on kernel :?09:32
kanupatarguiverc: ^09:32
Katnipencrypted is a pita09:33
subcoolespecially recovery09:33
subcooli always run into stupid shit like this.09:34
subcoollike-wtf..09:34
egrainalso it doesn't ask anymore for the network settings.09:34
subcoolwe are 2 weeks into 2019 - lets just delete ALL the headers.. and ONLY make 4.19 available. But- its not really supported yet.09:34
guivercsorry kanupatar - I missed what you you were pointing me to09:34
egrainis that also no longer cool?09:34
subcool(in case your wondering, not directly ubuntu)09:35
Katnipi sure would not09:35
kanupatarguiverc: what is the reason for the issue?09:36
kanupatarAny ubuntu developers aware of that?09:36
guiverckanupatar, no sorry I answered but it was not directed to you so you may have missed it.  "i don't know; mine was 4+ years ago which is why I don't recall.  it may have been a script (perl, bash) error for me (wrong color string (escape-sequence) or something) but I forget.."09:38
LaRose_Bleumorning09:45
LaRose_Bleudo we support for davinci resolve?09:45
LaRose_Bleufor linux09:45
LaRose_Bleuin this channel09:45
LaRose_Bleui have some weird ubuntu-specific issues with it09:46
egrainis there something like an auto sshfs mount thingy?10:24
tomreynegrain: looks like it https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSHFS#Automounting10:26
tomreynconsider using nfs instead10:26
AcoonWhen using 802.1x on wired connection in 18.10, I've been told that it's not possible to switch between 802.1x and unsecure network sockets, as enabling 802.1x makes it mandatory. Isn't it possible to only use 802.1x in case it is requested from the switch?10:29
egraintomreyn, okay.10:33
egrainthanks.10:33
AppAraathi, I'm trying to run a shellscript with root privs as a normal user, but I don't want sudo to ask a password (I'm still hesitant about employing setuid root), so in sudoers I have the following line: myuser  ALL=NOPASSWD: /home/me/bin/script.sh10:47
AppAraataccording to this thread, it should work if the script is executable (which it is) - https://askubuntu.com/questions/39281/how-to-run-an-application-using-sudo-without-a-password10:47
AppAraatyet somehow sudo still asks me for the password.10:48
maeudIs anyone familiar with gnome and kerberos?10:48
maeudI'm mounting shares using pam_mount on user logon and it works fine for ssh logins but logging into a desktop environment the shares fail to mount10:49
BluesKaj'Morning all10:53
maeudMorning BluesKaj10:53
BluesKajHi maeud10:54
maeudThe error I get is: "mount error(126): Required key not available"10:54
maeudso it looks like when I log in with gnome it doesn't request a krb ticket?10:54
maeudbut if I open a terminal and run klist I have a kerberos ticket10:55
maeudso it's getting requested too late10:55
maeudno ideas10:55
tomreynAppAraat: try this instead:   ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: /home/me/bin/script.sh10:55
AppAraatlike this? myuser      ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: /home/me/bin/script.sh10:57
AppAraatif so, it still asks for password.10:58
tomreynAppAraat: yes thats what i meant. guess that's not it then.10:59
tomreynAppAraat: do you have a hashbang set in the first line of your shell?11:00
tomreyn...script11:00
AppAraatyes, #!/bin/sh11:01
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BluesKajAppAraat, are you trying for no password in sudoers?11:02
AppAraatyeah11:02
BluesKajif so it's 'user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL'11:02
BluesKajuser being your username11:03
AppAraatBluesKaj: but that would grant no password for all commands, I just want to run a specific script without sudo asking for password11:03
BluesKajAppAraat, ok, not sure about that one11:05
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Katniphttps://www.gnu.org/11:06
maeudgot it working, I had to add "user=%(USER),cruid=%(USER),uid=%(USERUID),gid=%(USERGID)" to the pam_mount volume option for each share11:08
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strkis sdkmanager from android SDK available in any apt package ?11:31
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legreffierstrk: nope.11:33
egrainwhy can i access someone elses user dir?11:36
tomreynbecause permissions11:36
egrainwhy aren't they automatically set to: no!11:36
egrain?11:36
legreffieregrain: basic common sense11:37
egrainwhat?11:37
legreffier99.9% users will assume another user shouldn't be able to access their home folder11:37
legreffiersane default behavior if you ask me11:37
egrainyeah, but why can i do it then?11:38
tomreynto set up newly added user account to not allow for it, run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure adduser11:38
egrainyeah. no. this should be like this out of the box.11:39
egraini'm not amused.11:39
tomreynfor the existing ones, you'll need to change permissions yourself11:39
legreffieroh11:39
* tomreyn doesn't know the reasoning11:39
legreffieri didn't get your question sorry11:39
tomreynegrain: is this a dektop or server install? i guess it would be an ok default for desktops.11:40
egraindesktop.11:40
egrainit's not an okay default for anything.11:40
egrainwell, for windows maybe.11:40
maeudadjust the umask egrain11:41
tomreyni gues sif you'll search the web a while you'll come across somelengthy discussion where the defaults were discussed and fixed to that they are now. and maybe some reasons you had not yet considered.11:41
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AcoonWhen using 802.1x on wired connection in 18.10, I've been told that it's not possible to switch between 802.1x and unsecure network sockets, as enabling 802.1x makes it mandatory. Isn't it possible to only use 802.1x in case it is requested from the switch?11:59
MomentumHi, i installed dwm on ubuntu and i put some scripts on ~/.xinitrc but they don't seem to be executed, anyone have an idea?12:21
anonymipso, are there any way to atomagically mount/re-mount a SMB-share if it is un-mounted?12:23
Momentumokay i found a solution, i had to use ~./xsessionrc instead12:31
leonardusin my terminal, `user@hostname` is in green, how do I change that color?12:36
lotuspsychjeleonardus: you can edit terminal colors in its settings12:37
leonardusI went there but it only lets me change the palette, and some stuff with the text and background color (but not specifically the `user@hostname` part)12:38
leonardusat least, that's what I found12:38
lotuspsychjeleonardus: solorized scheme makes it darker green12:39
leonardusi don't want it a darker green, i just want it a different color12:40
egraini have more. so when i selecte german and german keyboard and type in the password z is still y and y is still z.12:40
tomreynleonardus: if you run bash, see the definition of the PS1 environbment variable in ~/.bashrc12:41
leonardustomreyn, thank you12:44
tomreynleonardus: also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code#Colors12:44
tomreyn+ the "PROMPTNG" section in the bash man page, section 1 (bash(1))12:45
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leonardusHow do I get owner permissions? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ftD8Q22PPg/14:12
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eoli3nleonardus: https://serverfault.com/a/25331414:17
leonarduseoli3n, did that, but now when I ls ~/.ssh, I get stuff like this: ls: cannot access '/home/ubuntu/.ssh/id_rsa': Permission denied14:20
leonardusfor each of the files14:20
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eoli3nleonardus: not possible as you did chown -R ubuntu ~/.ssh14:20
SwedeMikeleonardus: pastebin ls -l ~/.ssh/14:21
eoli3npaste that "history | egrep "chown|chmod" | grep ssh14:21
eoli3nSwedeMike: yeah better idea ^^14:21
leonardushttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HyJQ6pq9K2/14:22
SwedeMikeleonardus: pastebin "ls -ld ~/.ssh"14:23
leonardusdrw------- 2 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 Dec 15 16:05 /home/ubuntu/.ssh14:23
ubottuUbuntu bug 4096 in meld (Ubuntu) "meld: merge new debian version" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409614:23
SwedeMikeleonardus: "chmod u+x ~/.ssh"14:24
eoli3nleonardus, paste history | grep chmod | grep ssh14:24
SwedeMikeleonardus: then do "ls -l ~/.ssh/" again14:24
eoli3nyou did recurse and wildcard whmod on .ssh14:25
eoli3nchmod14:25
SwedeMikeeoli3n: does it matter how he got there? Let's just fix it.14:25
leonardusSwedeMike, looks like that did it https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2zFjd5wJWp/14:25
eoli3nit is, because he said "eoli3n, did that" but he didn't14:25
elias_aleonardus: Are you sure you did not chown the directory as sudo or root? :) (I've done that)14:25
SwedeMikeleonardus: ok, that looks all fine.14:26
leonarduselias_a, im not supposed to use sudo for chown?14:26
SwedeMikeleonardus: you should be good to go now.14:26
elias_aleonardus: No. But if you did that in error that would explain the situation.14:26
eoli3nSwedeMike: fixing is a thing, understand is another14:27
SwedeMikeeoli3n: right.14:28
Cheezthat's common in dev. "I fixed that bug" "oh cool, how did you fix it?" "I have no idea, but it now works"14:29
qwebirc94193Hello?14:37
qwebirc94193I have a bootable Ubuntu drive on a USB and want to install Ubuntu, but when installing, should I select "Erase Disc and Install Ubuntu"? I am on MacOS14:40
qwebirc94193I am booting Ubuntu from the USB drive at startup by using Alt+Power and selecting EFI Boot14:41
leonardusqwebirc94193, Do you want to keep macOS installed alongside Ubuntu?14:42
qwebirc94193Yes. I want the computer to always default to MacOS, but when I plug in the USB drive and boot it with Alt+Power, I want to be able to select and run Ubuntu14:42
leonardusso you want the Ubuntu installation to be on the USB drive itself, not on the computer?14:43
qwebirc94193Yeah, I pretty much just want Ubuntu on the USB so I can just plug and boot it up.14:44
qwebirc94193I followed this guide: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-macos#614:44
qwebirc94193I really just want to know if installing from the USB onto the same USB will mess up14:50
tomreynhi qwebirc94193. indeed, this is nt going to work. you should always install to a different storage than the one you booted from14:51
tomreynnt -> not14:51
qwebirc94193shoot. How can I get rid of the installer and recover the USB to what it started out originally?14:51
qwebirc94193Disk Utility?14:51
tomreynwhat do you mean by "what it started out originally"? are you now trying to recover the data which was stored on the usb stick before you followed the tutorial you linked above?14:53
qwebirc94193No. Just wipe it clean. It was empty in the first place.14:53
qwebirc94193Brand new USB14:53
tomreynoh, sure, you should be able to use any partitioning utility to clear it.14:54
qwebirc94193Nice. I'll try to wipe that, load the installer on a smaller USB, then install Ubuntu on the one I had.14:54
qwebirc94193Thanks!14:54
tomreynif you would like to create a full modifiable ubuntu installation on the usb storage, you can run the installer in a VM, grant raw disk access to the usb stick to this VM, and then have the VM boot the ubuntu installer ISO and install to the usb14:55
tomreynoh well14:55
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xsiI disabled spamming notebook keyboard by "xinput float 11". Does it still load my system with IRQ's? I tried "xev" but on that level there are no signs of burdening my OS..15:34
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donofrioHow do I get my UGA-3000's working so far no video ;(15:38
OerHeksdonofrio, displaylink,org: if you run Nvidia, this might be a fix https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/185935615:42
OerHeksDP is still experimental support15:42
capellaPelosi summoned an audience? I mean, commanded a press release?16:17
capelladamnit !!!!16:17
capellaim out screwed up again16:17
raubI am mounting a smb fileshare as user windows-user, who has rw access to said fileshare (tested in windows box), using mount.cifs:16:24
raubsudo mount.cifs -v -o rw,username=windows-user,domain=ad.example.com //windows.server.example.com/windows-user /tmp/mnt16:24
raubWhen I try to copy a file I am told I have no rights16:24
raubBut if I mount same fileshare using nautilus, it works fine16:25
raubWhat am I missing in my mount command?16:25
lordcirth_raub, you could mount it in nautilus and run 'mount' to see what it did?16:28
raublordcirth_: "mount|grep windows.server.example.com" or using it's IP results in nothing. I only see the mount statements I manually did on command line16:34
LopeA guy on another channel is trying to tell me that if you format a magnetic hard drive (the whole drive, no partition table) with luks, it won't be aligned with the sectors on the drive.16:35
LopeIs that true?16:35
lordcirth_Lope, I'm not sure, but why would you do that?16:36
Lopelordcirth_, i don't need partitions, I've got LVM in the luks16:36
lordcirth_I think it is generally best practice to use a partition table with 1 partition16:36
lordcirth_Lope, https://askubuntu.com/questions/571581/are-there-any-advantages-disadvantages-if-any-in-running-luksformat-on-raw-dr16:37
pavlosraub: the domain= might be an issue, this worked on my local network ... sudo mount.cifs //main/Users /mnt -o rw,username=paul16:41
Lopelordcirth_, your link says: (2) Fully encrypted raw block device: For this, put LUKS on the raw device (e.g. /dev/sdb) and put a filesystem into the LUKS container, no partitioning whatsoever involved. This is very suitable for things like external USB disks used for backups or offline data-storage.16:44
LopeBasically says it's fine.16:44
emilsphey, so on 14.04, nftables the kernel module is loaded and all, and my netlink messages get delivered and all, but no actual blocking of packets takes place, what gives? Do I have to enable it somewhere somehow?16:58
OerHeksemilsp, standard we use IPtables, so tell us what guid you followed?17:00
emilspI've got custom code that interacts with nftables through the netlink socket. I've noticed that none of the nftables userspace tools are available, so it's hard to debug this.17:01
emilspso, I have followed no guide. I also did not load any nftables modules manually17:02
OerHeksoh,  custom code, not worth telling us in the first place? you better join ##linux17:02
uioHi! On Lubuntu here. I plugged in a usb mouse on my laptop and it won't work... Any ideas for a solution?17:03
emilspSee, the code itself works just fine on 16.04 and all other distros. Just not 14.04 :)17:03
OerHeksuio, some laptops have a FN key for touchpad/mouse/both17:03
uioOerHeks: The laser light isn't even on...17:04
emilspuio: what does lsusb return ?17:04
OerHeksuio, is this a laptop with usb3?17:04
uioOerHeks: emilsp https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GbnWynTytm/17:06
uiolsusb output.17:06
uioOerHeks: I'm not sure... but this laptop has worked with this mouse before.17:06
emilspand this is with the mouse plugged in? check dmesg for drivers moaning and groaning17:06
uioAnd I used this mouse on another laptop earlier today. And on the present laptop I have an external monitor plugged in...17:06
uioemilsp: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pJvn5XgZgS/17:09
uioclosed wrong window...17:10
emilspuio: no worries. It seems like nothing is wrong. The mouse has worked with this laptop, right? Might be the hubs themselves, might be that an upgrade broke this.17:12
uioemilsp: Hmm.17:12
uioSo, nothing to do?17:13
emilspyou can try and see whether there are any udev rules for this?17:13
OerHekstry an other port, seems not like a USB3 machine17:14
uioOerHeks: None of the pors work...17:16
uio*ports17:16
OerHeksoke, if the mouse does not work in an other machine, it is dead17:16
emilspit does work in another machine.17:17
OerHeksit does not show up on lsusb, did it ever work under linux?17:18
OerHeksno brand double ID using nockoffs have this issue17:18
uioOerHeks: I works in Debian LXDE. I'm testing it right now and it is good....17:18
uioOerHeks: It's a Lenovo mouse...17:19
OerHeksthen the conclusion is the hardware itself, laptop/laptop usb ports17:19
uioOerHeks: It doesn't like my usb keyboard either, but it will detect my usb key....17:22
OerHeksso you can conclude yourself there is something wrong with that laptop, your last resort is to test a live iso17:23
TJ-uio: can you show us a kernel log from Lubuntu when it fails to be found?17:23
uioI'm going to see.... Maybe rebooting will help....17:30
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fubTJ-: hey, maybe you remember me, we talked about my eth firmware problem and you gave me some udev rule. I still have to execute the command by myself, any idea whats wrong with the rule? Also sometimes my systems gets unresponsive again and  this only happens when using the dockin g station eth, so any hint what else I can do? Maybe Im not fast enough deactivating the "eee" mode by hand?18:36
TJ-fub: can you remind me of what the udev rule looks like and where it is in the file-system?19:17
OpenSourcowiechi there19:24
OpenSourcowiecI have some problem with i.e. Unity games, I have Linux Mint 17.3 Xfce 32-bit19:24
leftyfb!mint | OpenSourcowiec19:24
ubottuOpenSourcowiec: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)19:24
solsTiCehi. I am compiling a software that needs javah. But it is nowhere to be found here with jdk 11. Where is javah ?19:29
lordcirth_solsTiCe, it has been removed: https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/31319:38
yelowfishhi all.does anyone knows where to read a detailed description for an update made by ubuntu xenial?19:50
Oolyelowfish: in /var/log/apt/history ?19:53
Oolhistory.log *19:53
Oolor into /var/log/apt/term.log19:54
yelowfishi mean.the dialog window for the update says: ubuntu base 6mb,but it doesnt show the contents or description of what apps are going to be update19:54
TJ-yelowfish: in a terminal shell do "apt list --upgradable"19:57
yelowfishi see.what about for the recent only ?19:58
tomreynthis lists just the pending updates19:58
yelowfishyes,my concern is to view the most recent update made plus the specific area that was updated,ie: ubuntu base was updated,w/c specific part it20:00
ioriayelowfish, someone reported the empty windows as a bug , some else solved with running  sudo apt autoremove and running the update-manager again20:01
yelowfishis that so.sometimes its unreadable .ie:half portion horizontal of the text are missing20:02
yelowfishany other ways to view it somewhere?20:02
ioriayelowfish, they already told you20:03
yelowfishayt,tnx all.ill just dig further.20:04
memeemeeeugh!-- complete fresh install of 18.04.1 and my laptop is still freezing after a few hours idle. I guess now I know it's a hardware related. but since it only happens with kubuntu minimal (not Arch or Win7) I'm back here in hopes someone can help me troubleshoot.20:07
InteloWhy use linux/ubuntu or why even it was invented if unix like openbsd exists with almost similar tools?20:07
dreamon_hello my xubuntu automounts every usbstorage device I plugged in. but I dont want this behavior. tried to handle this by disabling as much automount options I could find. But still automount goes on. it Mounts to /media/usb1 /media/usb2 /media/usb3 ..20:08
ioriamemeemeee, try to install anothe de20:09
tomreynIntelo: free software, GNU is not Unix. search those.20:09
dreamon_ioria, Oh nooo..20:09
ioriadreamon_, why ?20:09
dreamon_think you ment Intelo .. ;)20:10
chrismatthewsdoes a cronjob source /etc/profile before it runs?20:10
ioriachrismatthews, not sure, maybe if you use sudo crontab20:12
Intelotomreyn, dreamon_  openbsd is free and opensource. Linux/ubuntu is free opensource. BSD/unix was there before there was linux. BSD/unix and linux are similar. Why made linux?20:12
tomreynIntelo: it wasn'T always this way. since these are not really support questions, please let's move this to #ubuntu-discuss instead.20:13
memeemeeeioria: do you think having an alternate de beside my fresh install of kubuntu would be helpful in this effort or do i need to do a clean install of say Ubuntu18.04.120:14
ioriamemeemeee,  i'am just suggesting to install ,let's say, xfce and test if you get the same freezes20:16
Intelook20:17
dreamon_LOL.. memeemeee is a nickname ;) Iolo sorry.20:17
memeemeeek ioria. I understand. actually an easier solution than trying to do a second DE beside my current install20:17
memeemeeea nickname born of frustration many years ago (trying to come up with a unique nickname on hotmail i believe)20:19
memeemeeethanks for the suggestion ioria I will try your idea20:21
ioriamemeemeee, ok20:21
texlaI have Ubuntu 18.04.1 installed on sda1..I want to install a Ubuntu favor on sda2 How do I install grub and keep the current grub 2.02..Do I install grub to sda1???20:24
memeemeeeioria: it just occurred to me that my last freeze happened on the login screen. is that not DE independant? if I haven't logged into the DE shouldn't it be irrelevant?20:26
lordcirth_texla, you don't want to install grub to a partition.20:26
ioriamemeemeee, what login screen in particular ? ssdm ?20:26
lordcirth_You could run the installer with manual partitioning and choose not to install grub, then boot to the old one and update-grub20:27
tomreyntexla: pick one of the two to manage the boot loader (grub). make sure os-prober is installed there and that it detects both installations and adds them to the grub menu. on the other installation, remove the grub package.20:27
ioria*sddm20:27
texlalordcirth_, Where do I install so that i CAN KEEP THE SAME GRUB MENU AS 18.04.120:27
ioriamemeemeee, nope, the dm is (usually) tied to the de20:28
ioriamemeemeee, e.g) if you install xfce it will be replaced by lightdm20:31
EriC^^texla: start the installer with "ubiquity -b" so it doesnt install grub, and when you boot into 18.04 run "sudo update-grub"20:32
memeemeeeioria: ssdm or whatever dm kubuntu uses out of the box. Xfce is nice and small so I can try that and see20:32
ioriaok20:32
texlaEriC^^, Thanks for the info20:33
EriC^^yw20:34
ioriai'am wondeing if now you need subiquity -b  ...20:35
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memeemeeeis it necessary for / to be on a primary partition or is grub able to load from extendeds?21:05
TJ-memeemeee: Either21:06
thaurwylthHey, this daemon is available for, among others, 18.10: https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/pcscd  Is there an easy way to find an exhaustive list of hardware that will clearly, unquestionably work with pcscd? It has a page under linux.die.net but I don't immediately see any such documentation.21:06
memeemeeeI have a dual system with windows7 which requires me to use MBR and takes up 2 of the primary partitions. I put my kubuntu root on the third part, but now i need to install a second ubuntu flavor to test some hardware issues21:07
thaurwylthAlso, if such a list exists in an Ubuntu specific way, that'd be all that's needed.21:07
memeemeeeso TJ you're saying I can use my 4th partition as an extended with several partitions within that grub will be happy to load?21:08
memeemeee                                                                     21:08
TJ-memeemeee: yes21:08
memeemeeethx. that's a relief.21:09
OerHeksthaurwylth, i know this debian page, https://wiki.debian.org/Smartcards21:10
thaurwylthOerHeks, thanks, I'll be sure to check it out! It might be helpful. But there might be a problem, because I'd eventually (in the far future, this is still and thus far a preemptive question) use PCSCD with a software package that, probably, only exists for SUSE SLES, Red Hat RHEL, and Ubuntu - and that document is for Debian. Hmm?21:15
OerHeksubuntu is based on debian unstable, so no worry21:15
thaurwylthYay!21:16
thaurwylthIs this true for every release at year.month? I mean I somehow misthought that this was originally the case but then the distributions would go their different ways. The truth actually sounds better, in many ways.21:17
OerHeksyes21:17
OerHeks!yy.mm21:17
ubottuyy.mm is Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle21:17
OerHeksbut LTS every 2 years21:17
memeemeeeif I were to bite the bullet and buy a new laptop, is there a forum or irc channel that people here can recommend for good linux friendly hardware (not necessarily ubuntu)21:28
thaurwylthOther than ##hardware?21:30
TJ-memeemeee: Ubuntu has a list of certified devices21:30
OerHeks!hcl21:30
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection21:30
TJ-memeemeee: see https://certification.ubuntu.com/certification/21:30
memeemeeecool. thanks for those links. is ##hardware linux oriented?21:31
OerHekshttps://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn21:31
TJ-memeemeee: no21:31
thaurwylthWell, I guess many of the actives come from a Unix-style background. But definitely 'no' in any more specific sense. They often have good answers, though! And then there's of course ##linux.21:32
TJ-the problem is asking for recommendations doesn't guarantee you'll still not have to jump through hoops - the same model series can contain vastly different hardware21:33
memeemeeei was headed to ##linux next.21:33
TJ-Like when the wifi can be Intel, Realtek, or Broadcom21:33
OerHeksif you read BCM/broadcom, hit ✗21:34
memeemeeeyeah TJ- I have had that experience several times. was thinking about building it. I've loved my old thinkpad L420 has worked great for years but it's quite antique21:36
thaurwylthIs there a collection of what the old GNOME, Unity, etc. default desktop backgrounds looked like for each yyyy.mm release of Ubuntu?21:40
tmrolandhello. how is one supposed to use ubuntu when on any number of fresh install attempts all that happens after logging into the gnome desktop is seeing random crashes and slowness in everything without even installing anything?21:42
lordcirth_tmroland, well, for one, most people don't have that problem. secondly, did you mean to ask for help with this problem?21:43
tmrolandyes, for possible solutions21:43
tmrolandfor example immediately upon logging in im greeted with random application crashes related to snap packages21:43
lordcirth_tmroland, what Ubuntu version?21:44
tmrolandi have compatible and high end hardware21:44
tmrolandall21:44
tmroland18.04, 18.10-21:44
gato_negrohow can I look up which driver and module my touchscreen is using21:45
lordcirth_tmroland, ok, and does /var/log/syslog show errors?21:45
tmrolandafter seeing such problems on a fresh install i didnt boither investigating anymore, i just saw they are related to snapd crashes and i formatted the ubuntu partition, but now i had the idea to come here and just report my sad experience and see if anyone had it21:46
lordcirth_tmroland, well, we can't really help you if you don't have the system anymore21:47
tmrolandoh and snap based applications start extremly slow21:47
tmrolandincluiding system monitor21:47
tmrolandspins and spins21:47
tmrolandok i will try again maybe21:47
tmrolandand come back and ask for help21:47
thaurwylthTmroland, the proper course of action is perhaps to first sort your (presumed) bug findings into a couple of the most fatal ones and the rest. The rest you can start looking into later. Then check whether there are bug reports for the most pressing ones. It's usually quite easy, I mean if they exist you will find them in no time. If you feel that a problem is fatal but no one reported it, that's a 95 % sure sign that it's a ...21:52
thaurwylth... single-case hardware or other somesuch related problem and not an actual problem with Ubuntu or Linux, so to speak. Then the course of action, if possible, is to test the same things on a different computer. If you end up with things that you still believe are true bugs-- AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH.21:52
thaurwylthSorry, everyone.21:52
thaurwylthThey should not be in such a hurry all the time, tee hee.21:52
thaurwylthHey, a question popped into my mind about the Ubuntu Certified program. I noticed that the lists are for successive Long-Term Releases (LTS). Will it be the case that a new release will have the same certified support as the earlier LTS one? Or might some support, even in the certified case, be dropped in between?21:59
amiritehey all, i'm having a hell of a lot of trouble creating a bootable usb with windows 10 on it22:06
amiritei cant mount the iso either22:06
amiriteapparently I need an OS with ISO-13346 UDF file system support22:06
amiritehow do I get that?22:06
lordcirth_thaurwylth, if the LTS on either side is supported, it should be fine. But they aren't going to test them all.22:06
lordcirth_amirite, you are running Ubuntu and trying to make a bootable Win10 USB?22:07
lordcirth_Last I tried, I think dd worked fine?22:07
lordcirth_Maybe I am misremembering22:08
lordcirth_amirite, https://itsfoss.com/bootable-windows-usb-linux/ ?22:08
amiriteit's windows 1022:09
amiritedd didn't work for me22:09
OerHeksrufus, etcher22:09
OerHekshttps://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source22:10
amiritelordcirth_: what the f is that BS22:10
amirite"How to create a bootable Windows 10 USB in Linux" -- then there is nothing there but blog comments22:10
thaurwylthLordcirth_, yeah, I kind of figured out that only actually certifying for LTS is the way to go. But I wondered that perhaps there is some secondary mechanism to ensure compatibility also for the releases in between. For instance, it would be specified in the road map plan for new releases, that typical configurations which have been found to be certifying-worthy for a given LTS, should have to be kept supported also in the ...22:11
thaurwylth... in-between releases for two years. Or something like that, I guess you get the idea.22:11
OerHeksWoeusb https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/create-bootable-windows-10-usb-ubuntu22:11
thaurwylthAnyways, SOLVED: the earlier question about old backgrounds for Ubuntu releases. I found the page Every Default Ubuntu Wallpaper, Ever.22:12
OerHeksbut that is really an long process, use a windows machine, drag and drop, voila bootable22:12
acgissuesHi, I'm getting 403 Forbidden when trying to update packages. Managed to update some, but this group won't.22:26
acgissuesTried cleaning up /var/lib/apt/lists/, changing mirror on sources.list, adding 8.8.8.8 nameserver and 127.0.0.122:26
tomreynacgissues: please post the url returned by:  sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999922:27
pavlosacgissues: does "sudo apt update" run without errors?22:27
acgissuespavlos: yeah22:28
pavlosacgissues: see tomreyn's note22:28
acgissuestomreyn: update doesn't seem to display much https://termbin.com/eb0r22:29
tomreynacgissues: so, shouldn'T we have seen 403 errors there now?22:30
acgissuestomreyn: sorry, i meant upgrading packages22:30
acgissuesthis is one of the links `http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-5/gcc-5-base_5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.11_amd64.deb`22:31
acgissueswhich return 403 Forbidden22:31
tomreynacgissues: do you have a http proxy server configured?22:32
acgissuestomreyn: no22:32
tomreyncurl -I http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-5/gcc-5-base_5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.11_amd64.deb 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999922:33
tomreynacgissues: ^ please show this url22:33
amiriteyou know what I'm fucking mad22:33
amiriteI just want a god damn bootable USB drive22:34
pavlosamirite: language22:34
amiritewhy is it not possible to create one22:34
acgissuestomreyn: https://termbin.com/ddpi22:34
pavlosamirite: are you in win10, d/l rufus and burn the iso22:34
amiriteeven using a tool like etcher, it flashes the ISO to the usb but it still doesn't register as bootble22:34
amiritei downloaded etcher, probably the same deal22:34
amiriteno matter what i will just keep spinning my wheels wasting time22:35
tomreynacgissues: host us.archive.ubuntu.com 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999922:35
pavlosamirite: try rufus, the latest is 3.3.something22:36
acgissuestomreyn: https://termbin.com/ua3822:36
amiritehonestly i don't have time anymore22:36
pavlosamirite: ok22:36
amiritei lost my entire day that i was supposed to give to work to CREATE A USB DISK22:36
acgissuesThe Forbidden ones show .26 instead of .23 Don't know if that has anything to do22:36
amiriteand now i'm out of time22:36
tomreynacgissues: .26 instead of .23, what do you mean?22:38
acgissuestomreyn: the message displays "Failed to fetch" the url and "403  Forbidden [IP: 91.189.91.26 80]"22:38
tomreynacgissues: oh ok. can you disclose who your ISP is?22:39
acgissuestomreyn: working for a client, couldn't tell22:39
tomreynacgissues: https://www.whoismyisp.org/22:40
tomreynacgissues: what we can tell so far is that there is a http proxy server responding these requests which is probably run by the ISP  of the system trying to download the updates22:43
fubTJ-: sorry for the late answer, here is it: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rHY4rxkF3d/22:43
tomreynacgissues: that's because the http headers returned to you are different from those the actual canonical servers send22:43
acgissuestomreyn: basically i'd need a proxy?22:44
tomreynacgissues: the headers you get to see: https://termbin.com/ddpi those the canonical servers actually send: https://termbin.com/pvja22:45
OerHeksacgissues, Woeusb https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/create-bootable-windows-10-usb-ubuntu22:45
OerHeksbut that is really an long process, use a windows machine, drag and drop, voila bootable22:45
tomreynacgissues: what you need is an ISP which is able to setup their http proxy server properly22:45
OerHeksgrinn22:45
OerHeksoops amirite ^^22:46
OerHekssorry acgissues22:46
tomreynacgissues: but that's not something you can influence, i guess, so maybe you should use https instead, preventing them from proxying your traffic22:46
acgissuestomreyn: how do i enable https for that matter?22:47
tomreynthis is a list of archive mirror servers which support https: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9xPqKSXNBJ/22:47
arpad2hello, please, could you help me how to enable a driver for the nvidia optimus card on Xubuntu 18.10, the easy way through settings doesn't do the job, it seem22:48
tomreynacgissues: ^ pick one of them where you assume they are close to you, and place this url in /etc/apt/sources.list22:48
thaurwylthHey, wait a moment, I'm about to create an installation stick for 18.10 soon. Downloading the ISO and creation will happen in a system which, up to that point, will be Windows 10. Should I use that Rufus thing as well?22:49
acgissuestomreyn: should i remove the other sources?22:50
avihtomreyn: heya :) i see that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/npm/+bug/1809828 didn't get any response beyond yours... is it common for confirmed bugs, shouldn't the ubuntu/debian maintainer (i'm assuming there is one) at least comment?22:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1809828 in npm (Ubuntu) "Cannot install the npm package: dependency broken" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:50
OerHeksthaurwylth, sure, rufus or etcher22:50
tomreynacgissues: actually the best approach is probably to create a copy of the file and edit that, so you'll have a backup.22:50
thaurwylthOerHeks, thanks, duly noted!22:50
thaurwylthOerHeks, that might happen tomorrow! On the other hand I'm crap at having future roadmaps for hobby projects.22:51
tomreynacgissues: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list{,.backup-20190117}22:51
TJ-fub: The only thing I can think is we're expecting it to match on the ENV{INTERFACE} which is the renamed interface... I wonder if at the point this rule is processed the interface name is an ethX22:52
tomreynacgissues: once you created the backup copy /etc/apt/sources.list.backup-20190117 this way, you can then edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace the previous  entries, yes22:52
OerHekscp /etc/apt/sources.list{,.backup.`date`}22:53
OerHeks:-D22:54
tomreynacgissues: https://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/ubuntu/ is apparently an US east coast mirror (I assume you are somewhere in the USA or around it, since you were using the US mirrors so far)22:54
acgissuestomreyn: just add the deb https://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/ubuntu/22:54
tomreynacgissues: no. let me pass you the file to place there22:55
tomreyngive me 3 minutes22:55
acgissuestomreyn: okay22:55
linextcan someone help me set up OpenVPN?  For some reason, it turns off immediately22:55
acgissuestomreyn: replacing the URLs apparently worked22:57
leonardusWhen I try to play newly uploaded YouTube videos, I get the error: Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.\n<Click here to visit our frequently asked questions about HTML5 video.>22:58
jmcleonardus: what browser are you using?22:59
leonardusMozilla Firefox22:59
jmcstrange...23:00
jmcusually work out of the box23:00
OerHeksmaybe this plugin installed? https://support.mozilla.org/nl/questions/121417823:02
jmcleonardus: enter in https://www.youtube.com/html523:02
jmcshow us the results23:02
leonardusjmc, It's showing a red exclamation mark for "H.264" and "MSE & H.264"23:03
leonardusblue tick for everything else23:03
tomreynacgissues: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BxSvcfYPgg/23:03
tomreynacgissues: okay if replacing worked i guess thats fine, too ;)23:03
OerHeksabout:preferences#content  and enable drm?23:04
acgissuestomreyn: yeah, thank you very much. Didn't know I sould use https23:04
tomreynacgissues: normally we don't use https so far, but in some special cases such as yours it makes sense23:05
jmctry install the x264 video encoder23:06
tomreynacgissues: the root of the problem you ran into there is that your internet access provider hosts an ubuntu mirror server themselves which, to you, claims to be the us.archive.ubuntu.com canonical mirror (which is actually in great britain). and this proxy server is not properly configured, returning incorrect responses to your attempts to install updates from it.23:09
tomreynacgissues: you are now working around this by connecting to official ubuntu archive mirrors via HTTPS, a connection your internet access provider cannot intercept and reroute to their mirror server.23:10
acgissuestomreyn: ain't this a common issue?23:11
OerHeksthat mirror might be the fastest one near you23:11
tomreyntechnically it makes sense for them to run this mirror server in their network, close to you, since it means they dont need to transfer this same data across the big pond many thousand times a day, but only when things get updated. but unfortunately they didnt succeed in configuriing it properly.23:12
thaurwylthAh, that about:preferences thingy reminded me of one thing, by the way! What sort of browsers are easily available for Ubuntu? Is there some Mozilla based browser that deviates from the main features of Firefox? I'm asking it because I heard that new versions of Firefox don't allow for user-based maintenance of cookies any more. I got really mad. If there is some other Mozilla browser, I'll sure switch over to that one when ...23:12
thaurwylth... I get to installing my new laptop.23:12
tomreynacgissues: this issue seem to be getting more common lately, but it is not widespread.23:12
thaurwylthAnd this, as I estimated to OerHeks, might happen starting from tomorrow: 01:12:37  thaurwylth > ... I get to installing my new laptop.23:14
OerHeksi have no idea about an open firefox, take a look at chromium23:14
thaurwylthChromium sounds intimidating in the sense that I don't like Google (or Alphabet) at all.23:16
linextcan someone help me set up openvpn client?23:16
leonardusubuntu has openvpn support built in23:16
thaurwylthAnyways, I was hoping something in the Gecko family would be available. But I'll see about it.23:16
linextit gets enabled for a split second and gets disabled23:17
pavloslinext: from a terminal, tail -f /var/log/syslog then start openvpn and see the messages in syslog, it will help troubleshoot23:18
pendarsoheilHi, I have OpenVPN installed with NetworkManager but I can't seem to access Google. Firefox prompts me with HSTS invalid cert due to bad domain which is pointing to facebook.com. I have tried flushing DNS and history.23:19
leonardusjmc, turns out I needed the ubuntu-restricted-extras package23:20
linextInvalid VPN service type (cannot find authentication binary)23:21
acgissuestomreyn: this being new means there's not workaround for ppa s23:21
tomreynacgissues: you will probably not need a workaround for PPAs23:21
jmcleonardus: my second package sugestion :)23:22
jmcmy first choice is always go minimalistic23:23
acgissuestomreyn: there is apparently. Will have to talk to my client see if there's a proxy they didn't mention23:23
pavloslinext: are you on 18.04 ?23:23
linextpavlos, yes23:23
pavloslinext: some reading ... https://necromuralist.github.io/posts/openvpn-on-ubuntu-1804/23:24
acgissuestomreyn: since I'm getting the same response I got23:24
tomreynacgissues: yes you should discuss with them.23:28
tomreynacgissues: this is a transparent proxy somewhere between the system you're working with and the internet.23:28
tomreynyou can use traceroute to locate it more closely23:29
linextpavlos, i rebooted and it worked23:30
pavloslinext: good23:31
acgissuestomreyn: yeah, may i pm it?23:37
tomreynacgissues: if it's a sensitive matter, ok23:37
tomreynacgissues: but note that the server operators also get a copy then.23:38
leonardusDoes anyone else have the problem where when a YouTube video is playing, you can see the window behind the browser very faintly?23:40
leonardusIt's easy to notice at 0:20 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPdLZ9g0l2823:46
leonardusDoesn't seem to happen if the video is fullscreen, only when it's in the regular player.23:46
leonardusCan someone confirm this?23:46

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