| tomreyn | leonardus: interesting, i got the same. didn't notice previously | 00:02 |
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| tomreyn | 18.04 with gnome shell here | 00:02 |
| puxavida | I've got geforce mx150 on a laptop, hdmi to 4k display but only getting 1920x1080 from nvidia driver (not noveau). Is there a way to get 3840x2160 on xubuntu? | 00:02 |
| puxavida | on 18.10 | 00:03 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: if you'll file a bug, please PM me the ID so i can +1 it tomorrow, heading to bed now... | 00:04 |
| margaritamike | Is there anything I can do about my VM? When I boot up, before it can get to the login screen, it just says "started bpfilter". This is lubuntu | 00:08 |
| puxavida | The dell laptop says it has nividia mx 150 and intel vga. How can I tell which video is the hdmi port. Intel uhd graphics 620. | 00:08 |
| OerHeks | margaritamike, this answer makes me ask: wayland session in thet vm ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1084550/ubuntu-18-10-stuck-on-started-bpfilter-while-booting | 00:14 |
| margaritamike | The only way I am able to get to grub is if I type in the wrong password to decrypt my hd. From there, I typed WaylandEnable=false | 00:22 |
| margaritamike | I now see more text after a reboot, but it still stops at "Started bpfilter" | 00:22 |
| margaritamike | @OerHeks | 00:22 |
| margaritamike | Oh actually that was from me pressing Esc at the lubuntu loading frame. If I just let it load, it only says started bpfilter | 00:25 |
| OerHeks | :-) | 00:27 |
| margaritamike | At the top of the messages I see Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning | 00:37 |
| nightowl1 | Hello | 00:37 |
| nightowl1 | Anyone can help me with RX 550 (laptop) and Ubuntu 18.04 | 00:38 |
| nightowl1 | It seems that on battery it's always underclocked , even under use | 00:39 |
| nightowl1 | I need to plug in the charger before I start anything with the AMD gpu , then unplug so I can continue on battery | 00:39 |
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| nightowl1 | Anyone? | 00:45 |
| sparr | all of my snap-installed programs have disappeared from my path. what normally puts them there? | 00:46 |
| margaritamike | Any advice OerHeks | 00:48 |
| gambl0re | what is suppoesd to be the expected value of $PATH? | 01:01 |
| OerHeks | echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin # standard | 01:12 |
| OerHeks | mine is now echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin | 01:13 |
| dreamon__ | hello my xubuntu automounts every usbstorage device I plugged in. but I dont want this behavior. tried to handle this by disabling as much automount options I could find. But still automount goes on. it Mounts to /media/usb1 /media/usb2 /media/usb3 .. | 01:35 |
| dreamon__ | how can I find out what process is the issue | 01:36 |
| dreamon__ | maybe udisks? | 01:36 |
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| EriC^^ | dreamon: i think it's a file manager thing | 01:43 |
| compdoc | "In gconf-editor, look under /apps/nautilus/preferences. There should be a setting called "media_automount". Ensure that it is checked. There is also an option called "media_automount_open" that you can set if you wish it to open the media in nautilus automatically in addition to mounting it." | 01:45 |
| EriC^^ | dreamon: ^ | 01:45 |
| OerHeks | for xubuntu xfconf, xfconf-query -c thunar-volman -p /automount-drives/enabled -T >> https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/734sez/how_to_disable_automount_in_linux_mint_18_xfce/ | 01:46 |
| thrizian | Hello everyone, i just set up my VPS and finished installing. but i want to double check if my root user is properly disabled, anyone has tips on how to figure this out? | 01:47 |
| EriC^^ | thrizian: try logging in? | 01:47 |
| thrizian | what error should i get if it is disabled? Because i tried that and it prompted me for a password | 01:48 |
| dreamon | OerHeks, it outputs false. I disabled all the gui automount stuff I could find. But still it mounts :( | 01:49 |
| dreamon | Im on Xubuntu18.04 | 01:49 |
| dreamon | In thunar I also disabled any automount stuff | 01:49 |
| dreamon | I think udisk2 is the issue → https://askubuntu.com/questions/652905/how-to-disable-usb-automount-in-xubuntu-14-04 | 01:51 |
| EriC^^ | dreamon: maybe it's a gvfs-* program? | 01:52 |
| dreamon | but think I have to disable every single one. | 01:52 |
| EriC^^ | ps aux | grep gvfs | 01:52 |
| dreamon | thats a huge list → https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/P73XTR8BwS/ | 01:53 |
| thrizian | @EriC^^ i figured out that typing users does just the trick. | 01:54 |
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| EriC^^ | dreamon: i'd say this is your culprit /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor | 01:55 |
| EriC^^ | thrizian: what do you mean? | 01:56 |
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| margaritamike | I can run set from grub and see a prefix and root | 01:56 |
| thrizian | when i type users, i get a list with the available users, so i know root does not exist :D | 01:56 |
| margaritamike | but unsure how to actually boot this machine | 01:56 |
| nullbyte_ | EPIC5-2.0.1 (Indolence) + LiCe v5.3.0 | 01:56 |
| EriC^^ | thrizian: those are currently logged in, not potentially can log in | 01:56 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: if prefix is pointed right then typing "insmod normal" should load the config and stuff | 01:57 |
| margaritamike | error: disk 'cryptouuid/______' not found. | 01:58 |
| margaritamike | :( | 01:58 |
| margaritamike | all i want is my vm back :[ | 01:58 |
| EriC^^ | is this an encrypted install? | 01:58 |
| margaritamike | yes the hd or w/e is encrypted | 01:58 |
| EriC^^ | for xmas? :P | 01:58 |
| margaritamike | hmm? | 01:59 |
| dreamon | uninstall udisks2 would uninstall good apps too. like k3b, brasero.. :( | 01:59 |
| EriC^^ | just a joke, all i want for xmas song | 01:59 |
| margaritamike | ahh :p | 02:00 |
| dreamon | any idea what I can do to stop automount | 02:00 |
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| margaritamike | EriC^^: is there a workaround for encrypted? how to proceed | 02:00 |
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| EriC^^ | margaritamike: how about you use a live usb to chroot to the disk and reinstall grub from there, i think that would work | 02:00 |
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| EriC^^ | margaritamike: you know how to connect a live usb iso to the vm? | 02:00 |
| margaritamike | o.o | 02:00 |
| OerHeks | encrypted on a VM, not bare metal | 02:00 |
| margaritamike | not entirely | 02:00 |
| n-iCe | What's the command to remove a package and everything has it has installed | 02:00 |
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| margaritamike | i wonder if i have a usb around here somewhere | 02:01 |
| EriC^^ | n-iCe: sudo apt-get purge <package> --autoremove | 02:01 |
| n-iCe | purge! | 02:01 |
| n-iCe | thanks | 02:01 |
| OerHeks | apt --purge , but cruft can remain in your home folder, like .config | 02:01 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: you just need the .iso file, is this virtualbox? | 02:02 |
| margaritamike | EriC^^: yes virtualbox | 02:02 |
| margaritamike | i'm not sure i have the original iso | 02:02 |
| margaritamike | lemme look around | 02:02 |
| n-iCe | Oresrian: is k, thanks | 02:02 |
| n-iCe | OerHeks: | 02:02 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: you just need any live usb iso it just has to be same bits and a sane linux os | 02:02 |
| margaritamike | i found the iso | 02:02 |
| dreamon | EriC^^, uninstall udisks2 would uninstall good apps too. like k3b, brasero.. :( | 02:03 |
| dreamon | EriC^^, any idea what I can do to stop automount | 02:03 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: in the vm go to settings > storage plug the iso in IDE and boot it | 02:03 |
| EriC^^ | dreamon: try first to kill that gvfs and see if it stops the automounting then work from there | 02:03 |
| EriC^^ | /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor | 02:04 |
| margaritamike | EriC^^: virtual hard disk or new optical drive? | 02:05 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: optical drive | 02:05 |
| dreamon | EriC^^, Yes that does the trick. Now it dont automount anymore ;) But thunar dont recognize the device anymore. earlier days I could after clicking on that device mount it. now its empty. | 02:08 |
| dreamon | but think it better than automount it on this slow userspace thing | 02:09 |
| EriC^^ | dreamon: ok so now check gvfs for its auto mount settings | 02:09 |
| EriC^^ | or maybe something else is calling it too | 02:10 |
| dreamon | where can I find those settings? | 02:10 |
| EriC^^ | read about how gvfs works, does it do automounting? | 02:10 |
| EriC^^ | dreamon: is it just 1 usb? i think "udisks" if you press on the cog for settings it has a "automount" option you can disable | 02:12 |
| EriC^^ | it's filesystem specific though | 02:13 |
| EriC^^ | i think udisks is doing the automounting or requesting it or something and gvfs is mounting | 02:14 |
| dreamon | dont know where.. reading manuals to find out. since a few weeks it mount everything to /media/usb1-9 it didnt do before. | 02:15 |
| dreamon | all usb device were outmounted not only device. | 02:16 |
| dreamon | sometimes it mounted same devices twice. | 02:16 |
| EriC^^ | dreamon: i think you can make a udev rule that tells it to "do nothing" when a usb is plugged in | 02:16 |
| EriC^^ | cause udev -> udisks -> dbus -> gvfs | 02:17 |
| EriC^^ | im reading here https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8159/mounting-usb-disks-automatically-how-it-works | 02:17 |
| dreamon | here I found something > https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/XQ5yWpvdcr/ | 02:18 |
| EriC^^ | good | 02:19 |
| margaritamike | EriC^^: i'm back | 02:19 |
| margaritamike | i booted it | 02:19 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: ok does it have network access? | 02:19 |
| margaritamike | start lubuntu, check disk for defects, test memory, boot from hard disk | 02:20 |
| margaritamike | which one? | 02:20 |
| margaritamike | yes it prolly will | 02:20 |
| margaritamike | i guess just go with the first option -- start lubuntu? | 02:20 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 02:20 |
| margaritamike | done | 02:21 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" | 02:21 |
| craigbass76 | What's the best wayto tell what app fired up my webcam? | 02:21 |
| craigbass76 | Or the mic on it... | 02:22 |
| dreamon | EriC^^, Thank you. think now I will get it on my way. | 02:23 |
| EriC^^ | dreamon: well done, np | 02:23 |
| margaritamike | EriC^^: done | 02:26 |
| johnc-- | hi, how will i see the system crontab list? when i login using root and do crontab -e or crontab -l it is empty. But i think the system have seperate cronjob written somewhere. I want to make sure letsencrypt renew is one of them :) | 02:26 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: link? | 02:27 |
| margaritamike | https://termbin.com/8xy1 | 02:27 |
| EriC^^ | johnc--: might be somewhere in /etc/crontab or /etc/cron.* | 02:27 |
| johnc-- | ok EriC^^ | 02:27 |
| A|an | Ubuntu 18.04 ...would anybody be kind enough to go into their /usr/local/share and see if they have a directory under share called "info" | 02:29 |
| johnc-- | EriC^^, nano /etc/cron.*/* works. Thank You. | 02:29 |
| EriC^^ | johnc--: np | 02:29 |
| margaritamike | EriC^^: any advice from this? | 02:30 |
| EriC^^ | A|an: no info dir for me there | 02:30 |
| A|an | thanks | 02:30 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: type "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 sda1_crypt" | 02:31 |
| EriC^^ | A|an: np | 02:31 |
| margaritamike | i did | 02:32 |
| margaritamike | nothing happened however x_x | 02:32 |
| margaritamike | other than entering the phrase | 02:32 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: it should ask you for the passphrase and decrypt it | 02:32 |
| EriC^^ | ok, good | 02:33 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" | 02:33 |
| margaritamike | EriC^^: https://termbin.com/v1r3 | 02:34 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: try "sudo mount /dev/mapper/sda1_crypt /mnt" | 02:34 |
| margaritamike | can't find /etc/fstab | 02:35 |
| margaritamike | can't find in /etc/fstab* | 02:36 |
| EriC^^ | there's a typo somewhere | 02:36 |
| margaritamike | i can complete everything except the mnt part | 02:37 |
| margaritamike | /dev/mapper/sda1_crypt can tab-complete | 02:37 |
| EriC^^ | try /cdrom | 02:38 |
| margaritamike | nope :< | 02:38 |
| EriC^^ | sudo mkdir /mnt | 02:38 |
| margaritamike | mkdir /dev/mapper/sda1_crypt/mnt ? | 02:39 |
| rfm_ | margaritamike, type a space before /mnt | 02:39 |
| margaritamike | oh | 02:39 |
| margaritamike | lol | 02:39 |
| margaritamike | ok | 02:39 |
| margaritamike | sudo mount /dev/mapper/sda1_crypt /mnt worked | 02:40 |
| margaritamike | i didn't realize the space mybad :P | 02:40 |
| EriC^^ | np | 02:41 |
| margaritamike | :) | 02:42 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: type "for i in /dev /proc /sys; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done" | 02:42 |
| margaritamike | okies did that :) | 02:44 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: sudo chroot /mnt | 02:44 |
| margaritamike | ok | 02:45 |
| margaritamike | holy macaroni | 02:45 |
| margaritamike | i see my old directory | 02:45 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: as a sanity check, do "grep -i crypt /etc/default/grub" and tell me if there is a variable set to "y" | 02:45 |
| margaritamike | yes | 02:47 |
| margaritamike | GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK | 02:47 |
| EriC^^ | ok cool | 02:47 |
| margaritamike | :o | 02:47 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: type "grub-install && update-grub" | 02:47 |
| margaritamike | error install device isn't specified | 02:48 |
| EriC^^ | oh right, forgot this wasnt efi | 02:48 |
| margaritamike | :o | 02:48 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: type 'grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && update-grub' | 02:49 |
| margaritamike | done :) | 02:49 |
| margaritamike | however! | 02:49 |
| margaritamike | WARNING: failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning. | 02:50 |
| margaritamike | that is the same message i would see when i tried to boot previously | 02:50 |
| margaritamike | but it did say done | 02:50 |
| margaritamike | at the end | 02:50 |
| EriC^^ | i think it should be ok, type 'exit' then sudo reboot | 02:51 |
| margaritamike | okies | 02:51 |
| EriC^^ | remove the .iso from virtualbox and see how it goes | 02:51 |
| EriC^^ | actually run sudo poweroff instead | 02:52 |
| margaritamike | got the same message from reboot | 02:53 |
| margaritamike | but will try again | 02:53 |
| margaritamike | i did see the contents of my old environment though | 02:53 |
| margaritamike | when we did that boot | 02:53 |
| EriC^^ | you removed the .iso and tried the actual install? | 02:54 |
| gato_negro | is there a way to download ubuntu live cds of older kernels? | 02:54 |
| margaritamike | EriC^^: i did not try an install | 02:55 |
| margaritamike | i removed the disk though | 02:56 |
| EriC^^ | margaritamike: no i mean the actual install, booting without the iso | 02:56 |
| margaritamike | yes | 02:56 |
| EriC^^ | ok try booting without the disk, see what happens | 02:56 |
| margaritamike | without disk? | 02:56 |
| EriC^^ | the iso disk | 02:56 |
| EriC^^ | live usb | 02:56 |
| margaritamike | right yes | 02:57 |
| margaritamike | i get the same results | 02:57 |
| EriC^^ | what exactly | 02:57 |
| margaritamike | however there's just 2-3 files i want to salvage if i retrace those steps you showed me and get to root, could i just upload them to a pastebin from there? | 02:57 |
| margaritamike | well the results are | 02:58 |
| margaritamike | i decrypt my drive, get the lubuntu loading screen, then get "started bpfilter" after it has finished loading | 02:58 |
| EriC^^ | yeah you could, "cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 9999" | 02:58 |
| margaritamike | At the top of the messages I see Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning | 02:58 |
| margaritamike | ok i will try to retrace the steps | 02:59 |
| EriC^^ | ok | 02:59 |
| EriC^^ | im off to bed, gl | 02:59 |
| margaritamike | ty for help EriC^^ | 03:00 |
| EriC^^ | np margaritamike | 03:00 |
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| margaritamike | fantastic i got everything i needed | 03:12 |
| margaritamike | double tripple thank you EriC^^ ! How can I become good enough to know how to do this on my own :P | 03:13 |
| margaritamike | goodnight | 03:24 |
| analogical | in the terminal the the cp command ask me for confirmation before overwriting an already existing file? | 03:25 |
| analogical | *in the terminal does* | 03:25 |
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| EriC^^ | analogical: no | 03:31 |
| analogical | EriC^^, are you sure? | 03:31 |
| analogical | is there a way to make it ask for confirmation? | 03:32 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 03:32 |
| analogical | wanna share that with me? | 03:32 |
| EriC^^ | i meant yeah im sure | 03:33 |
| EriC^^ | look in "man cp" for override stuff | 03:33 |
| EriC^^ | for "rm" it's -i , might be similar | 03:33 |
| analogical | you don't have a clue :( | 03:33 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 03:34 |
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| sparr | I've taken my external monitor and suspend and X crashing woes to stackexchange: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1110741/x-crashing-after-sleep-dell-7490-laptop-with-intel-modesetting-driver-xrandr-w | 03:45 |
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| thebope | Hello, I currently have 8 zombie processes, all epmd or inet_gethost. They seem to slowly be increasing on my server, so I'm not sure what's causing them really | 04:30 |
| thebope | But I can't seem to clean them up either | 04:30 |
| thebope | I've tried `sudo kill -s SIGCHLD pid` and `sudo kill -9 pid` on them all but it doesn't clear up a single one | 04:30 |
| thebope | Is there any thing I can do to clear these things out? I'll certainly try to keep an eye on things to see if I can pinpoint where they're coming from as well | 04:31 |
| thebope | I'm running ubuntu 18LTS | 04:32 |
| craigbass76 | What's the best way to tell what app fired up my webcam? Or the mic on it? | 04:37 |
| sparr | craigbass76: lsof should know, but I'm not sure the name of the device file for the camera | 04:38 |
| craigbass76 | Microsoft something or other. | 04:38 |
| sparr | try `lsof /dev/video0` | 04:39 |
| craigbass76 | sparr, nada. | 04:50 |
| craigbass76 | lsof | grep video gave me a few lines, but nothing I recognize | 04:51 |
| craigbass76 | they all end in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstvideo-1.0.so.0.1401.0 | 04:51 |
| craigbass76 | I'll just unplug it... | 04:52 |
| dabbler | Would someone please be kind enough to help me get over a few stumbling blocks in building veracrypt in Ubuntu 18.04 on armhf? | 05:08 |
| dabbler | I'm following a very basic guide that makes no mention of "Buffer.d", and there's no such file on my system, yet the makefile is saying "permission denied" opening that "dependency file" | 05:10 |
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| === Apachez- is now known as Apachez | ||
| Govu | Hello | 07:32 |
| Govu | Ubuntu LTS on Lenovo Yoga 500-14IBD with ALPS touchpad, pointer speed has issues. Horizontal movement is good but vertical movement is slow, really slow. If I draw circle, pointer moves in oval shape. | 07:35 |
| tomreyn | Govu: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection and see if you can or want to report a bug, or whether there already is a bug report you can subscribe to (and maybe it has a workaround listed as well) | 07:45 |
| Govu | tomreyn Thanks a lot. I will go through the link you posted. | 07:49 |
| tomreyn | Govu: you're welcome. if you can tell me the "I: Bus=..." and "N: Name=..." lines from your /proc/bus/input/devices i can help search for matching bug reports. | 07:51 |
| Govu | tomreyn Right now I am on Windows, let me quickly boot up Ubuntu and I will post it. | 07:56 |
| Fleuv | Hello, my wireless or wired connection stops working every time I close the lit of my laptop (probably also when I put my pc to hibernate). When I do this and my laptop is not connected to wifi or lan than the corresponding device will stop working. Thus far only a reboot is able to fix the issue are there any other work arround? | 08:03 |
| Fleuv | !paste | 08:04 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 08:04 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: depends on which hardware and driver you have there. | 08:05 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: "lspci -knnv" or "lsusb" should help you identify it. | 08:06 |
| Fleuv | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9FqKnm2Y55/ | 08:09 |
| Fleuv | some information with only my wifi working (current situation). | 08:10 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: go through "journalctl -b" (maybe start on the bottom) and look for what happened when you closed and reopened the lid, to get a better understanding of why eth0 vanished. you can also share all of the journal using "journalctl -b | pastebinit" | 08:15 |
| Govu | tomreyn I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0008 Version=0700, N: Name="AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint" | 08:21 |
| qwebirc57814 | Hello | 08:25 |
| qwebirc57814 | I have question about Ubuntu 18 and extending drive | 08:25 |
| qwebirc57814 | im no talking about root drive | 08:25 |
| qwebirc57814 | 2ndary drive. If i delete partition and create new partition it asks me "Created a new partition 1 of type 'Linux' and of size 300 GiB. Partition #1 contains a ext4 signature." | 08:26 |
| qwebirc57814 | and i fi want to remove signature | 08:26 |
| qwebirc57814 | what does it actually mean? | 08:26 |
| qwebirc57814 | and should i remove it ? | 08:27 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, cool pastebinit that's a nice tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/25M8jwQ8tW/ | 08:27 |
| Fleuv | I guess that log started when I opened the lit of my laptop again | 08:28 |
| tomreyn | Govu: so there are a couple bug reports on Launchpad already https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext="AlpsPS%2F2+ALPS+GlidePoint&field.scope=all& | 08:28 |
| Fleuv | Hmm no never mind its when i booted i think | 08:28 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, it seems like it my laptop booted without eth0: jan 18 07:52:56 my.hostname ifup[1606]: Cannot find device "eth0" | 08:32 |
| tomreyn | Govu: they may refer to other ubuntu releases (also some which are no longer supported), but have a look as to whether you find one which is very similar. or just reoport a new one using "ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-input-libinput" or "ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-input-synaptics" | 08:32 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: looking at your log now. normally, on ubuntu 18.04, network interfaces are renamed, no longer use the old ethN format names | 08:33 |
| Fleuv | Ooh okey, have a look at near line 1530 | 08:34 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: do you have network configuratiosn in /etc/network/interfaces ? | 08:36 |
| Fleuv | Yes its on the bottom of my first paste: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9FqKnm2Y55/ | 08:36 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: oh, but this is a laptop you use with a graphical display, right? why dont you use network manager? | 08:37 |
| Fleuv | Not sure what you mean with that tomreyn. I thought I was using network manager though. | 08:37 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: network manager won't be managing your network interface if configurations for the same network interface are found in /etc/network/interfaces | 08:39 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: nmcli | pastebinit | 08:40 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: note this will disclose info on your local network setup | 08:40 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, didn't i share those already? :D | 08:41 |
| QLAO | Hello | 08:44 |
| lpoulle | hi | 08:44 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y3hVSgdxMK/ | 08:44 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome QLAO lpoulle what can we do for you guys? | 08:45 |
| QLAO | just passing by thx | 08:45 |
| Govu | tomreyn Yes, this particular bug is not listed. I will have to open a new one. Thanks a lot. | 08:46 |
| lotuspsychje | Govu: feel free to share us the bug# afterwards, volunteers can take a look for you | 08:47 |
| Govu | lotuspsychje Thanks, sure I will share. Just need a lot of time to read how to do it! | 08:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Govu: from a terminal: ubuntu-bug your-package | 08:50 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: so you can see there that network manager does not manage your ethernet nic | 08:50 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: if you want ti managed by NM, remove the configurations off /etc/network/interfaces | 08:51 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, I guess I want so. ti = it ? | 08:52 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: right | 08:52 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, rm -rf /etc/network/interfaces | 08:52 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: i generally type too fast and don't check before i hit enter, bad habit. | 08:52 |
| Fleuv | Hehe occasionally i do have the same | 08:53 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: deleting it is not strictly necessary, but is an option | 08:53 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: just renaming it is another | 08:53 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: then: systemctl restart network-manager | 08:54 |
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| Fleuv | Yes | 08:54 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, both network manager and networking are running now | 08:54 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: does the ethernet interface now show up on the applet? | 08:55 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, but I don't see any possibility to activate my wired networking | 08:55 |
| Fleuv | so no it doesn't | 08:55 |
| Fleuv | lshw -C network still shows the same | 08:56 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: oh you didnt reboot since you closed the lid, right? | 08:56 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: please do, if you didnt | 08:56 |
| Fleuv | Okay but usually if I now reboot it starts working again | 08:57 |
| Fleuv | Because now I got everything connected | 08:57 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: okay, this is really not about bringing things back after lid closing, yet, this is just to make sure you can manage everything from network manager | 08:58 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, I will turn off my wifi and disconnect my cable and reboot. Back in a sec | 08:58 |
| Fleuv | Ooh okay | 08:58 |
| Fleuv | Anyway cya in a bit | 08:59 |
| Govu | lotuspsychje I am trying to follow steps in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection under section "In case at least one of the Touchpad features work, but does not work correctly and as expected". In ubuntu-bug your-package, I don't know what's your-package that handles touchpad. Isn't it the kernel? So, I don't know how to do what you h | 09:02 |
| Govu | ave suggested. | 09:02 |
| Fleuv | hi, back once again | 09:03 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, i tried the following and NM seems to be functioning perfectly: boot without wifi on or cable connected, wake up from sleep mode without wifi on or cable connected. After boot or wake up it started the wifi as well as the wired connection without any problems. | 09:05 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, this is probably the fix i have been searching for, I guess the problem should be fixed now. Thank you very much! | 09:08 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: good, can you show "lshw -C network --numeric" now? i still haven'T seen this for your NIC | 09:08 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: oh, okay, well come back if it turns out not to be | 09:08 |
| Fleuv | Aaah yes sure | 09:08 |
| Fleuv | tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Pd84qNxkx4/ | 09:10 |
| lotuspsychje | Govu: bug it against linux: ubuntu-bug linux | 09:10 |
| lotuspsychje | Govu: after that it will transfer you to launchpad, add your story and details to the bug description so the devs can findout whats happening | 09:11 |
| tomreyn | Fleuv: okay cool. so enx00133b9bfe41 is the neame of your ethernet interface now, not eth0 | 09:11 |
| Fleuv | Aah that makes way more sense xD | 09:11 |
| Govu | lotuspsychje Thanks, I have submitted the bug, Bug #1812356 | 09:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1812356 in linux (Ubuntu) "AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint vertical pointer speed is very low" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1812356 | 09:30 |
| KenMiyamoto | hi | 09:34 |
| KenMiyamoto | i have a question | 09:36 |
| ducasse | go ahead | 09:36 |
| KenMiyamoto | i cannot see icons in the filebrowser of my ubuntu machine. What could be the problem? | 09:37 |
| solars | quick question: Sometimes my acpi reports two batteries for my laptop, is there a way I can have the default battery on bat0 always so my window manager doesn't display the wrong one? | 09:44 |
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| emark | https://www.bitchute.com/video/7Z8OtX7t9bTV/ The Secret Covenant | 10:05 |
| emark | wrong chanel | 10:06 |
| lotuspsychje | !rootirc | root__ | 10:08 |
| ubottu | root__: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. | 10:08 |
| root__ | sorry | 10:12 |
| lotuspsychje | root__: no sweat, just logout and join irc as regular user | 10:14 |
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| emilsp | is there a way to follow new kernel log messages on 14.04? dmesg seems to not have support for --follow/-w flags. | 10:40 |
| emilsp | boy did 14.04 suck | 10:41 |
| EriC^^ | emilsp: it was dmesg --tail or something | 10:41 |
| EriC^^ | man dmesg | 10:42 |
| TJ- | emilsp: I think easiest would be "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" | 10:53 |
| emilsp | thanks, TJ- | 10:55 |
| TJ- | emilsp: that does rely on rsyslogd working and there being a writable /var/log and space left though :) | 10:57 |
| danknight | do all versions of linux use apt | 10:59 |
| lonnie | There Is an Occupation Government: https://www.bitchute.com/video/U765rBfCyRbW/ | 11:00 |
| emilsp | danknight: no, not all linux distributions use apt for package management. | 11:02 |
| danknight | rofl re that video | 11:03 |
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| madsj | danknight: but all Debian based distributions do. | 11:16 |
| uio | Hi, is it possible to password protect a usb that I could use on my Linux system and that I could use on Windows computers for which I do not have admin passes? | 11:17 |
| TJ- | uio: sounds like you're inferring it'd be encrypted in some way | 11:18 |
| uio | TJ-: Sure. Or just so some random person can't find it and open all the files. I use a usb for work and I always worried it'll be stolen or something and I'll lose sensitive infos. | 11:19 |
| uio | TJ-: Ecyption or password protected.... or maybe that's the same thing?? | 11:19 |
| uio | It looks like veracypt only works if on has the admin passes. | 11:20 |
| uio | And Bitlocker is only for Windows (and is closed source....) | 11:21 |
| fub | TJ-: (regarding the udev rule because of the eth firmware): how do I find out if my systems renames the interface at boot? | 11:21 |
| fub | or maybe using the ethtool at this time is too early to set the mode? | 11:21 |
| fub | oh wait, when is this udev rule executed? | 11:22 |
| fub | because I always have my laptop booted (and logged out), then I plug in the docking station. | 11:22 |
| fub | so its not present at boot time | 11:22 |
| TJ- | fub: We need to capture the full udev activity when the device is inserted | 11:22 |
| fub | TJ-: device is inserted = eth cable plugged in or the docking station plugged in? | 11:23 |
| TJ- | fub: udev receives events from the kernel when device status changes (add/change/remove etc) and executes all matching rules | 11:23 |
| fub | ok | 11:23 |
| fub | how can I watch/monitor/log this events? | 11:23 |
| TJ- | fub: you can test your idea by replacing the ethtool command with one that simply creates a tell-tale file e.g. "touch /device_rule_triggered" | 11:23 |
| TJ- | then, after inserting the device, if that file exists you know the rule is triggering | 11:24 |
| Shibe | is there any way to get emacs-26-lucid on ubuntu? | 11:25 |
| Shibe | there was a ppa but it doesnt seem to be available for cosmic | 11:25 |
| danknight | madsj, emilsp thanks | 11:25 |
| fub | TJ-: okay, will do this | 11:27 |
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| solars | question: acpi shows 2 batteries while upower shows only BAT0 and my mouse etc - does anyone know why? BAT0 from ACPI does not seem to exist and BAT1 is BAT0 of upower | 11:28 |
| lotuspsychje | !acpi | solars | 11:31 |
| ubottu | solars: to debug ACPI issues on ubuntu make sure your bios is up to date and follow the procedure here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI | 11:31 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:34 |
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| vlt | Hello. I’m trying to install Ubuntu 18.04 MATE on a laptop, boot the official iso from USB, choose “try without installing” but have to add “nomodeset” kernel param to successfully boot. Now I have only a 1024x768 resolution. `lspci` says it’s a “00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 03)” and it worked fine on at | 12:12 |
| vlt | least 8.04, 10.04 and 12.04 before. | 12:12 |
| vlt | What do I have to do to get the full screen resolution? | 12:12 |
| vlt | `apt search intel`: xserver-xorg-video-intel/bionic,now 2:2.99.917+git20171229-1 amd64 [installed] | 12:16 |
| vlt | (That’s still on live USB.) | 12:16 |
| vlt | #1767808 maybe? | 12:19 |
| vlt | I mean https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1767808 | 12:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1767808 in linux (Ubuntu) ""drm timed out" with driver i915 + Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics with Kernel 4.15" [Medium,Confirmed] | 12:21 |
| peey | I got a prompt saying "A new LTS version is available, do you want to upgrade?" and I clicked "Yes". But I want to cancel it now, is there a way? I think it might be in the process of just downloading right now, though I don't see any window, everything's happening in the background, presumably | 12:24 |
| vlt | vlt: Yes, adding "video=SVIDEO-1:d" works. No "nomodeset" needed anymore. | 12:25 |
| lotuspsychje | peey: braking an lts upgrade is not a really good idea | 12:27 |
| peey | latuspsychje: oops. I just found the software updater window, and it had a stop button, so I clikcked it. | 12:28 |
| lotuspsychje | peey: oh, you didnt actually start the upgrade yet? | 12:29 |
| peey | lotuspsychje: I'd clicked yes on the prompt and it asked for my password, but I'm guessing that it had to download things before it could proceed with the upgrade | 12:29 |
| lotuspsychje | peey: it probably updated update-manager, can you recall that? | 12:30 |
| lotuspsychje | peey: maybe take a look in your dpkg logs, you can see there what it installed and whatnot | 12:31 |
| peey | lotuspsychje: I'll do that | 12:32 |
| peey | It did change my background back to the ubuntu default background, and my background changing app (variety) doesn't work anymore. I think I might have to log out and log back in again. | 12:33 |
| lotuspsychje | peey: whats the reason you deciced to cancel an upgrade? | 12:34 |
| peey | lotuspsychje: It comes with the overhead of fixing broken things and getting familiar with a new dekstop environment. I'd do it later when I have more time. | 12:37 |
| lotuspsychje | peey: its reccomended you backup data and fix broken packages first indeed | 12:38 |
| qwebirc94561 | hello - my first ever use of this chat channel | 12:49 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome to ubuntu support qwebirc94561 | 12:49 |
| qwebirc94561 | hi there | 12:49 |
| lotuspsychje | qwebirc94561: how can we help you? | 12:49 |
| qwebirc94561 | I'm having big problems with booting the system after upgrading to version 18.04 lts | 12:50 |
| qwebirc94561 | I've been given a ling | 12:50 |
| qwebirc94561 | link | 12:50 |
| qwebirc94561 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SwVc83n5Tf/ | 12:50 |
| qwebirc94561 | that is the URL that is given to me | 12:50 |
| qwebirc94561 | it shows the error that BOOT-REPAIR has given me | 12:51 |
| elias_a | qwebirc94561: And you are running Ubuntu from a Live-USB memory? | 12:52 |
| qwebirc94561 | BOOT-REPAIR gives me this: If you are experiencing boot issues, indicate this URL to people who help you. For example on forums or via email. | 12:52 |
| EriC^^ | qwebirc94561: is the live usb booted right now? | 12:52 |
| qwebirc94561 | I'm on UBUNTU now booted from USB | 12:53 |
| EriC^^ | qwebirc94561: how big was your old hdd? | 12:53 |
| qwebirc94561 | It was dual boot - 120GB with 28Gb for Ubuntu | 12:53 |
| EriC^^ | the usb is 30gb right? | 12:53 |
| qwebirc94561 | correct | 12:53 |
| EriC^^ | qwebirc94561: ok, type "sudo parted -ls" and pastebin the results | 12:54 |
| qwebirc94561 | Model: SanDisk Extreme (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 31.4GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos Disk Flags: Number Start End Size Type File system Flags 1 1049kB 31.4GB 31.4GB primary fat32 boot, lba | 12:54 |
| EriC^^ | qwebirc94561: also "sudo grep sdb /var/log/kern.log" | 12:55 |
| EriC^^ | !paste | qwebirc94561 | 12:55 |
| ubottu | qwebirc94561: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 12:55 |
| EriC^^ | is that all you get? | 12:55 |
| qwebirc94561 | yes - its all I get | 12:55 |
| uio | How can I pasword protext a usb that I could open on my Linux machine and on a public Windows machine? | 12:55 |
| EriC^^ | qwebirc94561: are you sure the hdd is plugged in correctly and powered? | 12:56 |
| qwebirc94561 | yes | 12:56 |
| qwebirc94561 | It should have Windows 10 on it as well | 12:56 |
| qwebirc94561 | dual boot - but since the upgrade it no longer gives me a startup menu | 12:56 |
| EriC^^ | qwebirc94561: try "ls /dev/sdb" do you get anything? | 12:56 |
| qwebirc94561 | ls: cannot access '/dev/sdb': No such file or directory | 12:57 |
| EriC^^ | is it a normal sata disk or nvme stuff? | 12:57 |
| qwebirc94561 | its a normal sata disk - well ssd | 12:57 |
| qwebirc94561 | 120gb | 12:57 |
| EriC^^ | qwebirc94561: try booting into the bios and see if it shows up there | 12:57 |
| EriC^^ | it doesnt look like linux sees it at all | 12:58 |
| EriC^^ | did you change any bios settings after the upgrade etc? | 12:58 |
| elias_a | uio: Password protection is no protection. Encrypt the USB stick. | 12:58 |
| willksm | uio, create an encrypted partition? | 12:59 |
| qwebirc94561 | hmmmmm - ok - I will check in the bios - it should be OK - I'm sure - it must have lost its partition details then | 12:59 |
| EriC^^ | qwebirc94561: it would list it and say partition table none | 12:59 |
| EriC^^ | it doesnt even acknowledge it | 12:59 |
| qwebirc94561 | So when I boot - it gives me the option to boot from the network - and thats it - itll only boot with USB now\ | 13:00 |
| EriC^^ | so the hdd must be dead, or the cables are bad | 13:00 |
| elias_a | qwebirc94561: EriC^^ is right. For some reason your computer does not see your HDD at all. | 13:00 |
| EriC^^ | or something else | 13:00 |
| qwebirc94561 | hmmmm - ok - if I boot now - I will lose this connection | 13:00 |
| qwebirc94561 | and have to start talking to you guys again - | 13:01 |
| qwebirc94561 | let me check the bios - and I'll be back later - in 5 minutes or so | 13:01 |
| elias_a | qwebirc94561: welcome back! | 13:01 |
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| serard | Hello | 13:13 |
| michelbuca74 | /mode $me +x | 13:15 |
| captain_ | hi all . i upgraded from beaver to cuttlefish and now have problems printing. tried reinstalling hplip but the needed plug in fails to install. i have pasted details here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3S3fFRNQqc/ | 13:16 |
| elh | Hi. I have a login problem - description here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2410625 | 13:41 |
| tomreyn | elh: logout, then switch to tty3 (ctrl-alt-f3; ctrl-alt-f2 to switch back to graphics later), then login to the text terminal and run: mv ~/.cache /tmp/ | 13:46 |
| tomreyn | then "systemctl restart gdm3" and "exit". then ctrl-alt-f2 to get back to the graphical login and login there again. | 13:47 |
| tomreyn | note down these steps so you'll know how to proceeed while you have not access to the chat | 13:48 |
| elh | tomreyn: ok, I'll try. you can leave any help tips on https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2410625 | 13:49 |
| tomreyn | elh: i don't usually use the forums. | 13:50 |
| leonardus | tomreyn, did you file a bug report? i didn't get around to it last night and don't want to make a duplicate on accident | 13:50 |
| leonardus | if not i'll do that right now | 13:51 |
| leonardus | this is regarding the window transparency thing | 13:51 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: i dont even remember what it was about, sorry | 13:51 |
| tomreyn | ah now i do | 13:51 |
| tomreyn | but no, didnt file a bug | 13:51 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: this video works fine for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD0Wlsm_Sdk | 13:55 |
| tomreyn | i mean works fine for reproducing the issue | 13:55 |
| tomreyn | this even better, lets me see folders on nautilus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYFk1O_t43A | 13:56 |
| tomreyn | it only happens during playback. it may be a mesa issue. it would be good to try it on different graphical desktops and different applications (vlc?), too. | 13:57 |
| leonardus | will try on vlc, one sec | 13:57 |
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| leonardus | tomreyn, I'm not getting the issue when YouTube is fullscreen, by the way | 14:00 |
| leonardus | same for you? | 14:00 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: same here, can'rt reproduce on full screen | 14:01 |
| tomreyn | -r | 14:01 |
| al3xprey | is the ubuntu-aws kernel any good? | 14:01 |
| al3xprey | is it a preempt kernel ot something? | 14:02 |
| elh | tomreyn: [Ubuntu login problem] systemclt restarted, but no progress - same result | 14:03 |
| leonardus | cannot reproduce on VLC | 14:04 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: it also doesn't happen on chromium for me. | 14:04 |
| leonardus | alright, so I'll file the bug under firefox then | 14:04 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: so firefox specific apparently. | 14:04 |
| tomreyn | elh: and cache moved? | 14:05 |
| elh | tomreyn: yes, cache moved | 14:06 |
| tomreyn | elh: so what may have changed between when logging in to gnome-shell worked fine and when it stopped working? | 14:06 |
| === tulsi is now known as Guest45448 | ||
| elh | Short description here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2410625 Ubuntu login loop removed my all desktop settings. | 14:09 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: actually i can also reproduce it in full screen | 14:10 |
| leonardus | steps? | 14:10 |
| reallymemorable | The instructions I found online for changing the keyboard shortcuts in Ubuntu dont seem to apply to version 18 | 14:11 |
| reallymemorable | I am trying to change my copy and paste shortcuts | 14:11 |
| reallymemorable | where do i do this? | 14:11 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: i have hexchat (which has a mostly light UI) on the right half of the screen, then put this on full screen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYFk1O_t43A | 14:11 |
| tomreyn | elh: i read the post but this doesn't really say whether you made any changes which may have introduced the issue. | 14:13 |
| elh | tomreyn: I've made no changes on my system. | 14:13 |
| leonardus | tomreyn, that's odd, I can't reproduce that | 14:13 |
| tomreyn | reallymemorable: i'm not sure you can, ctrl-c and -v may not be configurable, at least i dont see them listed on the shortcuts configuration in settings | 14:14 |
| reallymemorable | yeah i dont see them either | 14:14 |
| reallymemorable | thats disappointing! | 14:14 |
| reallymemorable | I installed it on a macbook air, so it not being the command key is frustrating | 14:15 |
| lotuspsychje | reallymemorable: did you try the ?-icon on your system that contains usefull help on many topics | 14:16 |
| elh | tomreyn: I've just logged out from the system last evening and login loop started this morning. Maybe last ubuntu update triggered this problem (Ubuntu updated daily). | 14:16 |
| knstn | People, i'm trying out ubuntu 18.10. Beyond looking awsome graphically, software-updater and apt-get are compatible? Or i should only use apt-get in terminal? | 14:17 |
| leonardus | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1812394 | 14:18 |
| lotuspsychje | knstn: compatible GUI and apt-get | 14:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1812394 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Video playback faintly shows applications behind active browser window" [Undecided,New] | 14:18 |
| tomreyn | elh: can you show this url: sudo apt install pastebinit; pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; apt-cache policy; ) | 14:18 |
| knstn | leonardus: Thanks (asked because that is not always the case in fedora with dnf & packagekit) | 14:19 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: thanks. i just tried playing with firefox' "performance" settings (in preferences) and smooth scrolling, but they don't change it for me. which graphics hardware and driver do you have there? | 14:20 |
| leonardus | I have an RX 580 graphics card. Not sure what driver I'm running. | 14:21 |
| lotuspsychje | al3xprey: join #ubuntu-discuss plz | 14:21 |
| leonardus | Using the default driver that was installed when I installed ubuntu. | 14:22 |
| elh | tomreyn: ? Sorry, I don't get what you mean. | 14:22 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: capture https://i.imgur.com/ggCxKti.png | 14:24 |
| tomreyn | oh you did one, too | 14:24 |
| tomreyn | elh: if you run the commands i posted in a temrinal, it will return a http address, please post this address. | 14:25 |
| elh | tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hqnMpJ3qgV/ | 14:27 |
| lotuspsychje | leonardus: i also tested this and cant see true YT | 14:28 |
| leonardus | tomreyn, Do you think this could be a bug that only affects AMD graphics cards? | 14:31 |
| leonardus | lotuspsychje, what do you have? looks like tomreyn and I both have RX 580s | 14:32 |
| lotuspsychje | leonardus: intel graphics | 14:32 |
| lotuspsychje | leonardus: you want me to add that to your bug? | 14:33 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: it coul dbe driver related, yes | 14:33 |
| leonardus | lotuspsychje, if you'd like, yes. may rule out the possibility that it's driver related | 14:34 |
| lotuspsychje | leonardus: im on 18.04 tough | 14:34 |
| tomreyn | lotuspsychje: do you mean you "can't see through youtube videos"? | 14:34 |
| tomreyn | lotuspsychje: i run 18.04, too | 14:34 |
| lotuspsychje | tomreyn: if i understand well, i had the YT video on full screen with a terminal or nautilus behind it | 14:35 |
| tomreyn | lotuspsychje: it doesn't need to be full screen, actuall better shouldn'T be, since leonardus can't reproduce it in fullscreen | 14:35 |
| tomreyn | s/in/on/ | 14:35 |
| lotuspsychje | ah lemme try non-full | 14:35 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: can you add a note on your hardware to it, it may well be relevant that we run the same drivers, or even same hardware. | 14:36 |
| lotuspsychje | tomreyn: no, cant see anything behind, clear video here | 14:37 |
| coconut | are laptop recommendations (for wifi + gpu of dell laptop) part of todays support? | 14:37 |
| leonardus | sure, do I add that as a comment? and what should I mention, just the graphics card? not sure how to find out what driver I'm running | 14:37 |
| lotuspsychje | coconut: https://certification.ubuntu.com/ | 14:37 |
| coconut | oh ok | 14:38 |
| tomreyn | lotuspsychje: also when you have a mostly white window directly behind firefox, such as gedit or nautilus, and you pause and continue the video, right? | 14:38 |
| lotuspsychje | coconut: maybe if you can, try to avoid realtek & broadcom chipsets | 14:38 |
| coconut | ok, will do that :) | 14:38 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: lspci -knnv | grep -A5 VGA tells you driver in use | 14:38 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: sorry it's: lspci -knnv | grep -A10 VGA | 14:39 |
| leonardus | tomreyn, run as sudo or no? | 14:40 |
| lotuspsychje | tomreyn: tested | 14:40 |
| lotuspsychje | coconut: nvidia has also alot of graphics drivers on ubuntu, AMDGPU might still need some finetuning/and or playing with kernels | 14:42 |
| coconut | thnx lotuspsychje, that's exactly the answer i was looking for (i was trying to be social with amdgpu) | 14:43 |
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| tomreyn | leonardus: you dont need to no | 14:47 |
| lotuspsychje | tomreyn leonardus if i can recall having AMD on my desktop with ubuntu, i had such a see-tru bug too | 14:48 |
| tomreyn | lotuspsychje: thanksd for testing | 14:48 |
| lotuspsychje | tomreyn leonardus i think it was about, taking a screenshot, then have a faded window through | 14:49 |
| coconut | lotuspsychje: you know are the nvidia quadro's supported by the ubuntu drivers too atm? | 14:50 |
| lotuspsychje | coconut: best way is to check wich driver nvidia reccomends for the card you want/need then check on the ubuntu graphics ppa | 14:53 |
| lotuspsychje | !nvidia | coconut | 14:53 |
| ubottu | coconut: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 14:53 |
| coconut | :) | 14:54 |
| CoolerZ | hi | 14:55 |
| CoolerZ | i am trying to build and install the latest tmux 2.8 releaase | 14:56 |
| CoolerZ | release* | 14:56 |
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| CoolerZ | i downloaded the release tarball and extracted it, but when i do ./configure && make it is unable to find one of the dependencies | 14:56 |
| CoolerZ | libevent | 14:56 |
| CoolerZ | i do have it installed | 14:56 |
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| lotuspsychje | CoolerZ: we dont reccomend building own packages, install tmux from the repos instead | 14:57 |
| CoolerZ | sudo apt-get install libevent-2.1-6 | 14:57 |
| CoolerZ | libevent-2.1-6 is already the newest version (2.1.8-stable-4build1). | 14:57 |
| paul | ? | 14:57 |
| paul | what | 14:57 |
| CoolerZ | i can't find the 2.1.8 version when i do apt-cache search libevent however | 14:57 |
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| lotuspsychje | paul: can we help you? | 14:58 |
| CoolerZ | lotuspsychje, the repo version is 2.6, i need the latest 2.8 | 14:58 |
| lotuspsychje | CoolerZ: snap has 2.7 if you want | 14:58 |
| CoolerZ | hence why i am building from source | 14:58 |
| CoolerZ | what is snap? | 14:58 |
| lotuspsychje | !snap | CoolerZ | 14:59 |
| ubottu | CoolerZ: Snaps are containerised software packages similar to flatpaks or appimage. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io | 14:59 |
| lotuspsychje | CoolerZ: in your terminal: snap find tmux | 14:59 |
| CoolerZ | tmux-non-dead 2.7 | 15:00 |
| CoolerZ | lotuspsychje, well can you help me build the 2.8 version first? | 15:00 |
| CoolerZ | if that fails i will try the snap one | 15:00 |
| lotuspsychje | CoolerZ: we dont/cant support compiling own packages here sorry | 15:00 |
| tomreyn | elh: whoops i had missed your paste, sorry. i guess your apt source3s aren't an issue, then. can you add a new user account and login to that and see whether this works? sudo adduser myotheruser | 15:01 |
| tomreyn | elh: you can later delete this other other and all its files using: sudo deluser --remove-home myotheruser | 15:02 |
| CoolerZ | lotuspsychje, why can't find libevent 2.1.8 in apt-cache? | 15:03 |
| CoolerZ | only 2.1.6 exists | 15:03 |
| elh | tomreyn: do you want my all passwords and bank account access as well? | 15:03 |
| CoolerZ | even tho it reports i have 2.1.8 installed | 15:03 |
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| lotuspsychje | CoolerZ: apt always shows the packages, specific for your ubuntu version | 15:04 |
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| CoolerZ | what? | 15:05 |
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| tomreyn | elh: i haven't asked you to provide any sensitive information so far, and i guess if this is how you feel about getting supported i'm not going to ask you more questions either. | 15:05 |
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| elh | tomreyn: how come access to my PC is not sensitive information? | 15:06 |
| lotuspsychje | !latest | CoolerZ | 15:06 |
| ubottu | CoolerZ: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. | 15:06 |
| tomreyn | elh: i have not asked you for credentials, i have suggested that you create an additional user on your computer. i have not asked you to set a specific password nor to share it with me. | 15:07 |
| BluesKaj | elh, do you understand what apt sources even mean? | 15:08 |
| elh | BluesKaj: no | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | the don't jump to conclusions | 15:09 |
| BluesKaj | then | 15:09 |
| elias_a | (Where's my popcorn bin?) | 15:09 |
| elh | tomreyn: I can't switch to 'myotheruser' | 15:11 |
| kur1j | I'm having some issues getting a 10Gb LOM to auto negotiate at 10G. It will only auto negoatiate at 1G. If I do `ethtools -s <device> advertise 0x1000`, it will de-link and then negotiate at 10G perfectly fine. | 15:15 |
| kur1j | I'm on 18.04 | 15:15 |
| kur1j | It is an Intel x550-T2 LOM. | 15:15 |
| lordcirth_ | kur1j, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1291660 ? | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1291660 in linux (Ubuntu) "Intel ixgbe driver doesn't work at 10Gb speeds" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:17 |
| elias_a | elh: Is it possible your root partition would be full after the update? | 15:18 |
| elh | elias_a: there's only 1 partition and busy only 21% | 15:19 |
| pantato | anyone else use steam stream on here to play on ubuntu from their windows machine? | 15:20 |
| kur1j | lordcirth_: I don't think thats it. | 15:20 |
| lordcirth_ | kur1j, are you using the ixgbe driver? | 15:21 |
| kur1j | yes, but I've got another machine running 16.04 using ixgbe driver without this issue | 15:21 |
| elias_a | elh: Standalone Ubuntu without separate swap partition? | 15:22 |
| kur1j | lordcirth_: I've also tried Fedora 29, and it has the same issue | 15:22 |
| tomreyn | there are definitely systems which work fine with ixgbe at 10 GbE | 15:22 |
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| kur1j | tomreyn: I agree, but I can't determine why this one in particular wouldn't | 15:23 |
| tomreyn | kur1jfedora probably had a newer kernel? which ones have you tried so far? | 15:23 |
| kur1j | tomreyn: Fedora 29 | 15:24 |
| kur1j | I also tried updating the ixgbe driver | 15:24 |
| elh | elias_a: Disk with 3 partitions: 1. Filesystem 2. Extended partition 3. Swap partition | 15:24 |
| kur1j | no dice | 15:25 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: tried a bios or NIC firmware upgrade? | 15:25 |
| kur1j | yup, tried both | 15:25 |
| kur1j | so we have two machine, one (working) has an x99 chipset, with a LOM Intel x550 running 16.04, it negotiates fine. We have another machine with an x299 chipset LOM Intel x550 running 18.04 and will only auto negotiate to 1Gb | 15:27 |
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| kur1j | I can't put 16.04 on the x299 chipset because I get tons of errors with video driver support issues | 15:27 |
| kur1j | and it won't even boot | 15:27 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: apparently fedora 29 comes with linux 4.18 (answering my earlier question) | 15:27 |
| ioria | elh, would be more clear if you paste sudo parted -ls | 15:28 |
| elias_a | elh: Filesystem is not a partition. I suspect your partition no1 is your root partition and it is too full for the os to function. | 15:28 |
| kur1j | ohh sorry, didn't realize you were asking about the kernel | 15:28 |
| kur1j | but you are correct | 15:28 |
| kur1j | We have a mixture of Intel x540, Intel i350 LOMs and PCIe based NICs in machiens and they all work fine, negotiating properly | 15:28 |
| elias_a | elh: Are you able to open terminal? What is the output of command df? | 15:29 |
| kur1j | Oddly enough, if I run a cable directly to another one of the machine with a 10Gb NIC, it will auto negotiate to 10G | 15:29 |
| tomreyn | np ;) ubuntu 18.04 comes with 4.15, 4.18 is available via !hwe | 15:29 |
| kur1j | tomreyn: yeah based on my experiement with fedora I don't think the kernel is at fault | 15:30 |
| kur1j | well i should say, it doesn't fix the issue, I guess the problem still could be in the kernel? | 15:31 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: could be, or it could be broken cables | 15:31 |
| kur1j | tomreyn: same exact cable plugged into working machine, move it to this machine, doesn't work | 15:31 |
| kur1j | on that very same cable, if I force it to 10G with the ethtool command, it works perfectly fine | 15:32 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: but when you say it fails to negociate 10 GbE at boot and falls back to 1, but then you can manually make it renegociate to 10 GBe, this sounds more like a firmware or drive rissue. | 15:32 |
| tomreyn | right | 15:33 |
| kur1j | if I use that very same cable and plug it directly into the computer with a 10G card, it will negotiate fine | 15:33 |
| kur1j | which could indicate a switch problem, but we have like 15 other devices plugged up to the switch and have 0 issues | 15:33 |
| coconut | lotuspsychje: nvidia recommends driver 410.93, which is in the ubuntu ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa. (410.93-0ubuntu1). Can i expect this video card to work now? (Nvidia Quadro P3200 w/6GB GDDR5 OR Nvidia Quadro P4200 w/8GB GDDR5). | 15:33 |
| elh | ioria elias_a: http://dpaste.com/0X6TNHY | 15:33 |
| tomreyn | i'd say file a bug report with ubuntu, maybe with linux, too, and talk to intel or your hardware supplier. | 15:33 |
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| kur1j | tomreyn: fair enough. Do you know a good way to capture logs of the negotiation process? | 15:35 |
| ioria | elh, missing the head infos | 15:35 |
| kkil | /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER kkil yzxifjvqvumz | 15:35 |
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| tomreyn | kkil: you need to change your password | 15:35 |
| kur1j | kkil: lol oops | 15:35 |
| lesshaste | is there an easy way to type ë ? In windows you can do alt-0235 I think | 15:35 |
| kkil | thx tomreyn | 15:36 |
| tomreyn | kkil: this just went to the channel | 15:36 |
| lesshaste | I mean just hold down the alt key and type 0235 | 15:36 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: sorry, i dont, never had to do this fortunately. | 15:36 |
| lesshaste | how do you do it in linux? | 15:36 |
| bindi | lesshaste: doesn't your keyboard have the ¨ key? | 15:36 |
| aqd | what imap client is available on 18.04? thunberbird is ridiculous. i dont want subscription/downloading or caching ... | 15:36 |
| lesshaste | bindi, sure but not a ë key | 15:36 |
| ioria | elh, and don't be 'root', is useless | 15:36 |
| bindi | lesshaste: press it and e | 15:36 |
| lesshaste | "E | 15:36 |
| bindi | lesshaste: not " | 15:36 |
| lesshaste | shift 2 + e ? | 15:37 |
| EriC^^ | lesshaste: ctrl+shift+u then type eb and hit enter | 15:37 |
| lesshaste | ë | 15:37 |
| lesshaste | that works! | 15:37 |
| EriC^^ | or press space instead of enter, probably better | 15:37 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: this is layer 1 or 2, roght? i don't think you'd get far with tools like tcpdump there | 15:37 |
| kur1j | tomreyn: yeah, this is all part of the negotiation | 15:37 |
| lesshaste | EriC^^, I had no idea about that trick | 15:37 |
| lesshaste | thanks | 15:37 |
| EriC^^ | no worries | 15:38 |
| elh | ioria: http://dpaste.com/07WP6YX | 15:39 |
| kur1j | lordcirth_: that looks very similar to the issues, however there isn't many details on what/why its happening | 15:39 |
| elh | ioria: what do you mean by: don't be 'root'? | 15:41 |
| elias_a | elh: You have actually 2 partitions. What I don't understand is why your swap is on an logical partition. | 15:41 |
| ioria | elh, are you logged in as 'user' ? | 15:42 |
| elh | ioria: I'm not sure. | 15:43 |
| ioria | elh, run 'id' | 15:43 |
| elh | ioria: http://dpaste.com/16WEH4Q | 15:45 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: has you shown "ethtool -i ethX" output? i don't think i saw it, yet | 15:45 |
| ioria | elh, ok.... and what's your original problem ? | 15:45 |
| kur1j | tomreyn: sure I can get it | 15:45 |
| elh | ioria: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2410625 | 15:46 |
| jsubl2 | a ] [ xamithan ] | 15:46 |
| jsubl2 | 09:37 [ Ichimusai ] [ petris ] [ xar- ] | 15:46 |
| jsubl2 | 09:37 [ ikonia ] [ phunyguy ] | 15:46 |
| jsubl2 | sorry | 15:46 |
| ioria | elh, i see. please confirm that you have 'GNOME: 3.28.2' | 15:47 |
| elh | ioria: from 'System Settings': 3.28.2 | 15:47 |
| memeemeee | ooohhhkay-- I've been struggling with this for a while now and I need help: my laptop is freezing and I'm totally baffeled as to why. I've tried fresh install of Kubuntu 18.04 a fresh install of Lubuntu 18.10 and it keeps happening! there's nothing showing up around the time of the freeze in journalctl I used to think it was happening only when the computer was idle for a while, but I was working on it this | 15:48 |
| memeemeee | morning and it froze right in the middle of a session. I've not seen it freeze when I'm running arch (noX), nor Windows7 and It's also never happened when my laptop was not docked (I have a Lenovo series 3 dock) | 15:48 |
| ioria | elh, paste apt-cache policy gnome-shell | 15:48 |
| kur1j | tomreyn: https://gist.github.com/vaskokj/5e600b6275e8235563cf31bd15a74e33 | 15:49 |
| elh | ioria: http://dpaste.com/009309V | 15:49 |
| ioria | elh, not grome, gnome | 15:50 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 15:50 |
| memeemeee | ioria: we chatted a bit yesterday I think. did a clean Lubuntu install and it still happened | 15:51 |
| ioria | memeemeee, what version of lubuntu ? 18.04 or 18.10 ? | 15:51 |
| elh | ioria: http://dpaste.com/2VKMHR8 | 15:51 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: thanks. and this is version 2.00 with release 23.4? looks lower to me but i may be misinterpreting | 15:52 |
| kur1j | version 2.0? release 23.4? | 15:52 |
| tomreyn | https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28336/Non-Volatile-Memory-NVM-Update-Utility-for-Intel-Ethernet-Network-Adapter-X550-Series?product=88209 | 15:52 |
| ioria | elh, may i ask you why a 32 bit install ? | 15:53 |
| kur1j | I ran that utility and upgraded it | 15:53 |
| kur1j | not sure where to see that version | 15:53 |
| memeemeee | i did lubuntu 18.10 | 15:54 |
| ioria | memeemeee, i'd try with 18.04 | 15:54 |
| memeemeee | even though the freeze has been showing up since 16.04? | 15:55 |
| lordcirth_ | memeemeee, hmm, I've seen freezes when *not* plugged in due to cpu governor problems, which I worked around with setting "performance" | 15:55 |
| lordcirth_ | Freezing only when it *is* plugged in is interesting | 15:55 |
| elh | ioria: I try to recall, but I don't remember... | 15:55 |
| ioria | elh, are you logged in console (tty) atm ? | 15:56 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: me nether, we'd need to know how to calculate the clear text version number from 0x80000d04 (as given in the ethtool -i output you posted) | 15:56 |
| elh | ioria: no, just terminal | 15:56 |
| ioria | elh, in what session ? unity | 15:57 |
| ioria | ? | 15:57 |
| elh | ioria: yes, unity | 15:57 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: but if you ran this very version of the NVM updater and there were no errors then it's probably safe to assume that it's now on the latest verison | 15:57 |
| ioria | elh, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade | 15:57 |
| memeemeee | ioria: I've now had the problem in kubuntu 16.04, 18.04 and lubuntu 18.10 you really think lubuntu 18.04 is worth the time to try out? is there some other logs that I should be checking? or hardware test i should run? | 15:58 |
| elh | ioria: 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade. | 15:59 |
| ioria | memeemeee, maybe not, but all those distros are kde based (yes, lubu 18.10 is kde based) | 15:59 |
| kur1j | tomreyn: yeah I just ran it again and said it was all up to date | 15:59 |
| ioria | elh, ls -al ~/ | grep root | 15:59 |
| ioria | brb | 16:00 |
| elh | ioria: http://dpaste.com/26Y3KQC | 16:01 |
| memeemeee | lordcirth_: the dock has a special i/o interface which is why I mention it. the other thing about these freezes is that they seem to happen overnight. but that could just be coincidal | 16:01 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: ok. something else you could try is switching from uefi to legacy bios or the other way around if you have this choice (for testing). but this is just cross-testing, doesn't really fix anything. another approach you can talke is to increase the drivers' verbosity, it supports 17 debug levels (0..16) | 16:01 |
| lordcirth_ | memeemeee, perhaps you could switch to a tty, run dmesg -w, and leave it overnight? | 16:02 |
| lordcirth_ | It might manage to log something before freezing | 16:02 |
| kur1j | tomreyn: what would UEFI vs legacy boot do? | 16:02 |
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| tomreyn | kur1j: different hardware initialization, i guess, just adding more variance. i'm not sure it would achieve much. | 16:04 |
| memeemeee | o man ioria, I didn't realize lubu 18.10 was kde based. I was trying for something lean but i'm not super fond of gnome or unity so I figured LXQT would be a good fit for me | 16:05 |
| kur1j | tomreyn: fair enough | 16:05 |
| memeemeee | lordcirth_: I like that Idea. and that might catch stuff that's not going into journalctl? | 16:06 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: did you check dmesg and see whether there was any hint on why it went 1 GbE instead of 10? | 16:06 |
| === phoenix_firebrd is now known as murthy | ||
| ollehar | So our server gets random file access errors when running nginx, like some PHP files won't load on some requests. We've fun fsch without any errors found. Any ideas? | 16:08 |
| tomreyn | ollehar: fun fsch -> run fsck ? | 16:09 |
| poizonb0x | Morning community, please go to vocaroo.com, the flash plugin is not loading it? Any ideas? :> | 16:09 |
| ollehar | tomreyn: oops, yes, run fsck | 16:09 |
| tomreyn | ollehar: thats on the non mounted file system, i assume? | 16:09 |
| tomreyn | with -f ? | 16:09 |
| ollehar | tomreyn: non-mounted? | 16:09 |
| ollehar | tomreyn: with -f, don't know. | 16:10 |
| poizonb0x | Is there any voice recorder online like vocaroo? | 16:10 |
| tomreyn | ollehar: so e2fsck needs -f if the fs is marked clean | 16:10 |
| tomreyn | otherwise it just reports that the dirty bit isnt set. | 16:11 |
| kur1j | tomreyn: yeah, just says NIC Link is Down. and then says "NIC Link is up 1Gbps, flow control: RX/TX" | 16:11 |
| ollehar | tomreyn: ah | 16:11 |
| ioria | elh, already tried to backup ~/.config and ~/.compiz folders ? | 16:11 |
| lotuspsychje | poizonb0x: gnome sound recorder works pretty well | 16:11 |
| ollehar | tomreyn: thank you, we will try this. | 16:12 |
| elh | ioria: no | 16:12 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: hmm, okay. well maybe try the debugging: modinfo -p ixgbe | 16:12 |
| ioria | elh, you upgraded from xenial, right ? | 16:12 |
| tomreyn | kur1j: anyways, i don't think i can help, unfortunately. you've already tried everything i could think of. hope the hardware folks can help. | 16:12 |
| elh | ioria: no, fresh install (like 4 months ago). | 16:13 |
| kur1j | tomreyn: appreciate it | 16:13 |
| kur1j | yeah I'm at a loss as well | 16:13 |
| ioria | elh, ah, so there was no need to create wsap; by default 18.04 creates a /swapfile | 16:13 |
| poizonb0x | lotuspsychje: I was hoping I could upload the record and get a link as fast... any ideas on vocaroo flash plugin problems? | 16:13 |
| memeemeee | lordcirth_ (et. al) which switches can I give dmesg to get the most comprehensive data output? | 16:13 |
| ioria | *swap | 16:13 |
| tomreyn | ollehar: also please show one or two of the errors you get to see during nginx operation. | 16:14 |
| ioria | elh, mv .config to config.back | 16:15 |
| ollehar | tomreyn: It's a Joomla error: Can't load class. | 16:15 |
| ollehar | tomreyn: Then reload the page and it works. Then later, it might pop up again. | 16:15 |
| lotuspsychje | poizonb0x: i dont know vocaroo, flash on linux isnt really reccomended neither | 16:15 |
| tomreyn | ollehar: oh, well this doesn't sound like file system issues unless you have anoything else to back this up. | 16:15 |
| ollehar | tomreyn: We've been working with a move to a new server, maybe we messed something up during. | 16:15 |
| tomreyn | ollehar: can't load class sounds more like you'Re missing some php module(s) or misplayed some files of your web application | 16:16 |
| memeemeee | also perhaps an instance of top would shed some clues. if it freezes I'll get a snapshot of exactly what was happening at just prior to the freeze | 16:16 |
| ollehar | tomreyn: Can't be - then it would be broken always, not randomly. | 16:17 |
| ollehar | memeemeee: About my issue? | 16:17 |
| memeemeee | no sorry ollehar, | 16:17 |
| ollehar | ok ^^ | 16:17 |
| tomreyn | ollehar: only if the same code path was tried eacht time, but i'd also expect this to be the case for the same types of requests, usually. unsless its some kind of pseudo cron or caching mechanism which doesn't trigger everytime | 16:18 |
| elh | ioria: looks like done | 16:18 |
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| ioria | elh, reboot and login in the (Xorg) Ubuntu session | 16:19 |
| tomreyn | ollehar: ...or the name of the class to load is dynamically chosen based on input or situational environment data, which... would be very bad practice. | 16:19 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: if you have a minute, could you, just for fun, load http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html and search the page for xorg-hwe-18.04 and tell me whether you have a flashing video artifact above the highlighted text? | 16:22 |
| ollehar | tomreyn: It's not, it a simple call to a backend admin page, no post or such. | 16:23 |
| elh | ioria: same thing, no progress | 16:23 |
| ioria | elh, what happens exactly when you try to login ? | 16:24 |
| elh | ioria: login loop. just mouse cursor appears and after that it's back to the login panel. | 16:25 |
| ioria | elh, uname -a (you can paste here) | 16:25 |
| tomreyn | ollehar: i see. i suggest seeking support in a joomla related support channel then | 16:25 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: i even got it on this screen shot https://i.imgur.com/fdZSuti.png | 16:26 |
| elh | ioria: Linux coobA 4.15.0-43-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 6 14:44:00 UTC 2018 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux | 16:26 |
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| ioria | elh, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager | 16:27 |
| elh | ioria: /usr/sbin/gdm3 | 16:27 |
| ioria | elh, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 | 16:27 |
| elh | ioria: switch from gdm3 to lightdm? | 16:28 |
| ioria | elh, if it's a fresh install ; why do you have lightdm and unity ? | 16:29 |
| ioria | elh, and how did you install them ? | 16:29 |
| elh | ioria: hmm... maybe it was an upgrade from old iso, and iso was 32bit? | 16:30 |
| ioria | elh, nope; paste ls /boot | 16:30 |
| elh | ioria: http://dpaste.com/3HE8VEW | 16:32 |
| ioria | elh, cat /var/log/installer/media-info | 16:34 |
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| elh | ioria: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS "Xenial Xerus" - Release i386 (20170801) | 16:35 |
| EriC^^ | elh: you already checked ~/.Xauthority and user dir permissions/ownership? | 16:35 |
| ioria | elh, not a fresh install | 16:35 |
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| tomreyn | leonardus: if you'll try this, load it in firefox or chromium, i don't have it happen in eog or shotwell. | 16:35 |
| ioria | elh, already tried to create a new user ? | 16:36 |
| elh | ioria: yes, new user is 'myotheruser' | 16:36 |
| ioria | elh, and can you login with that ? | 16:37 |
| elh | ioria: no | 16:37 |
| ioria | elh, and in unity ? | 16:37 |
| elh | brb - I'll check | 16:38 |
| memeemeee | Which switches can I give dmesg to get the most comprehensive data output? I'm trying to figure out what's causing my system to freeze up | 16:41 |
| compdoc | memeemeee, could be hardware | 16:41 |
| memeemeee | if it is hardware compdoc, how can I establish that? | 16:42 |
| compdoc | run memtest86+ to test the ram, and read the SMART info to know if the drive is dying. Also, inspect the capacitors for failures. Power supplies can fail like that too | 16:44 |
| elh | ioria: as a 'myotheruser' i can login to Ubuntu and also to Unity | 16:46 |
| ioria | elh, ok | 16:47 |
| ioria | elh, you need to dig in your home folder; root owned files, .profile or .bashrc.... etc.etc . | 16:48 |
| EriC^^ | elh: type "ls -l /home/mainuser/.Xauthority" | 16:48 |
| swift110 | hey all | 16:49 |
| ioria | elh, brb | 16:49 |
| elh | EriC^^: -rw------- 1 coob coob 50 Sep 2 13:03 /home/coob/.Xauthority | 16:50 |
| EriC^^ | elh: type "sudo find /home/coob ! -user coob" | 16:53 |
| EriC^^ | does it list any files? | 16:53 |
| compdoc | 24G isnt enough? | 16:54 |
| elh | EriC^^: 1 file: /home/coob/.mysql_history | 16:54 |
| EriC^^ | elh: what about "ls -ld /home/coob" ? | 16:54 |
| elh | EriC^^: drwxr-xr-x 28 coob coob 4096 Jan 18 16:45 /home/coob | 16:55 |
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| EriC^^ | elh: press ctrl+alt+f2, login as coob, type "DISPLAY=:1 startx xterm" see what happens and any errors, then press alt+f7 to get back to the gui | 16:56 |
| TJ- | elh: quick way to locate all files not owned by the user in their $HOME directory: "sudo find $HOME -not -user $USER -ls" | 16:59 |
| elh | EriC^^: no errors, just white field and 'coob@coobA:~$' | 16:59 |
| EriC^^ | elh: aha seems your user is able to use xorg fine | 17:00 |
| elh | TJ-: just 1 file: /home/coob/.mysql_history | 17:00 |
| ioria | elh, i think you can safely remove sql_history (or chown it) | 17:00 |
| EriC^^ | elh: must be some unity related issue, try dconf reset -f /org/compiz | 17:01 |
| TJ- | EriC^^: I think we need to experiment with patching in strace to the GUI to quickly analyze cases like this! | 17:03 |
| elh | EriC^^: no changes after reset | 17:06 |
| EriC^^ | elh: try renaming configs one after the other to see what helps, ~/.compiz ~/.config/compiz-1 ~/.cache ~/.gconf ~/.config ~/.dbus | 17:08 |
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| peey | So this is interesting. I have a ntfs mounted drive on which there is one directory into which I cannot cd | 17:10 |
| peey | I can ls | 17:10 |
| ioria | elh, when exactly all of this started to happen ? | 17:10 |
| peey | I can't cd into a subdirectory either, I can however open files and make changes | 17:11 |
| elh | ioria: this morning | 17:11 |
| ioria | elh, ok, after what ? a reboot ? an update ? | 17:11 |
| elh | after last evening shut down. | 17:11 |
| ioria | elh, can you check you bash history ? | 17:12 |
| ioria | elh, this might happen when plaing wwith root | 17:13 |
| ioria | playing | 17:13 |
| peey | My cli freezes after I try to cd into this directory and I can't open any new terminal instances either, they all don't display the prompt. That's until I issue a ctrl+c in the prompt where I tried to cd into this directory | 17:13 |
| peey | My terminal* | 17:13 |
| elh | ioria: no playing yesterday evening. I was just browsing after work and maybe just update daily update happened. | 17:14 |
| elh | ioria: what do you mean by : check bash history? | 17:15 |
| ioria | elh, type in terminal 'history' | 17:15 |
| elh | ioria: commands before line 140 are probably from the year 2018 and commands after 145 are from today | 17:22 |
| ioria | elh, did you add some Startup scripts ? | 17:22 |
| jayjo_ | anybody have an idea how this animated graphic was made? https://cdn.ripple.com/wp-content/themes/ripple-beta/assets/img/home/ripplenet-section.gif I thought at first it was an animvated svg but then seeing the file it's a gif | 17:22 |
| elh | ioria: no | 17:23 |
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| ioria | elh, if unity works and gnome-shell not, might depends os some indicator/extensions bugged for gnome | 17:24 |
| elh | ioria: recently I've removed and created desktop Link | 17:25 |
| ioria | elh, shortcuts you mean ? | 17:25 |
| elh | ioria: yes | 17:25 |
| elh | ioria: this shortcut linked one folder with text files from the Documents folder | 17:27 |
| ioria | elh, backup ~/.local ; mv ~/.local ~/local.back | 17:29 |
| elh | ioria: previous link triggered an error, because the I've changed the name of the main folder and link couldn't find it | 17:29 |
| ioria | elh, that should not stop you from logging in | 17:30 |
| elh | ioria: ~/.local 'No such file or directory' ~/.local.back already there | 17:32 |
| ioria | elh, well, almost your entire home is backed up now! | 17:33 |
| ioria | elh, logout; switch to console; sudo systemctl stop gdm3 ; sudo systemctl start gdm3 ; try to login a couple of time and then check journalctl or dmesg | 17:35 |
| fub | I'm running i3wm with ubuntu18. Is it possible to run the typical gnome tray volume/network settings daemon? | 17:41 |
| fub | Im currently running nm-applet by myself and some volume stuff, but its not like the gnome one. | 17:41 |
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| OerHeks | maybe pasystray or volumeicon-alsa? https://www.reddit.com/r/i3wm/comments/4s0aev/how_to_add_volume_control_applet_to_status_bar/ | 17:45 |
| elh | EriC^^: This one "~/.config/compiz-1" let me in to Ubuntu | 17:45 |
| ioria | elh, you renamed .config before | 17:47 |
| elh | ioria: no | 17:47 |
| ioria | elh, yes, i told you to backup .config | 17:48 |
| elh | ioria: I mean I see one ~/.config.back and another ~/.config | 17:48 |
| ioria | elh, and you replied 'looks like done' | 17:49 |
| elh | ioria: I see 2 files: ~/.config and ~/.config.back | 17:49 |
| ioria | ok,nvm | 17:50 |
| OerHeks | if ~/.config is removed/renamed, it will instantly be regenerated | 17:50 |
| elh | so it was generated at one point today | 17:51 |
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| fub | OerHeks: yeah I am currently running pasystray, but its shit (I need far less options) | 17:54 |
| fub | sorry for the language. | 17:54 |
| elh | Instead of 'Workspace Grid' I have now 'Workspace Ladder'. Is there an easy way to bring my 'Workspace Grid' back? | 17:56 |
| elh | Workspace Grid 4x4 could be by default. | 18:00 |
| qwebirc36341 | hi | 18:01 |
| compdoc | bye | 18:03 |
| elh | ioria EriC^^: thank you for help | 18:03 |
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| sparr | is there a program that provides alt-tab functionality for switching between windows from a list, and nothing else? | 18:05 |
| uio1 | #MAGA? | 18:33 |
| murthy | can anyone recommend a good image paste service? | 19:02 |
| murthy | i tried imagebin.ca not working | 19:02 |
| tomreyn | murthy: imgur.com | 19:03 |
| murthy | tomreyn: thanks | 19:04 |
| chillpill_ | j | 19:04 |
| BluesKaj | murthy, imagebin,ca works here | 19:14 |
| BluesKaj | err imagebin.ca rather | 19:15 |
| murthy | oh, I even tried disabling privacy badger, but not working for me | 19:15 |
| murthy | BluesKaj: by saying working, do you mean you uploaded an image and it works? | 19:16 |
| nullbyte_ | which DM is default for cinnamon | 19:16 |
| nullbyte_ | display manager | 19:16 |
| nullbyte_ | lightdm? | 19:17 |
| nullbyte_ | ? | 19:18 |
| OerHeks | cinnamon is not in our repos | 19:19 |
| OerHeks | or is it? | 19:19 |
| SlidingHorn | OerHeks: it's in the bionic repos, at least | 19:19 |
| OerHeks | lightdm it is, https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-cinnamon-desktop-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux | 19:20 |
| BluesKaj | murthy, yes https://imagebin.ca/v/4Txyx8U9SX4X | 19:20 |
| BluesKaj | this is a local lake | 19:22 |
| murthy | BluesKaj: I found the issue | 19:22 |
| murthy | BluesKaj: imagebin.ca is using ibin.co webpage to display probably a cdn, so first when I visited the link you gave me there was only an image icon instead of the full image. when I rightclicked and opened the image link in a new tab it when to the new website/cdn i gave you, there was a captcha, after verifying it, the image is getting displayed on both the pages | 19:26 |
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| BluesKaj | interesting, guess it's your IP being outside of Canada that creates that 2nd url/link | 19:28 |
| EriC^^ | elh: glad it worked out, np | 19:33 |
| xscess | how can i make windows executables icons to show up in ubuntu mate 18.04? | 19:33 |
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| Sushi-san | What is the best OCR pdf software to use on 18.04? | 19:39 |
| dckusr | any chance to make th psckage python-opencv not bring in the whole world in it ? | 19:43 |
| dckusr | and maybe make a python-opencv-gui package for those who do want it ? | 19:43 |
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| pepijndevos | Is there a way to make apt verify everything it thinks is installed is actually there? | 19:49 |
| pepijndevos | I must have done something supid, and now some stuff is broken, and I have to hunt down the library and --reinstall it. | 19:50 |
| CookieM | Sushi-san, you may test lios or ocrfeeder. They both have graphical frontends and are available in the repos | 19:51 |
| TJ- | pepijndevos: "sudo dpkg --verify" | 19:51 |
| Sushi-san | which is better, CookieM? | 19:53 |
| CookieM | honestly I don’t know, just skimmed the repos for ‘ocr’ but I would put the stakes on latter | 19:56 |
| pavlos | pepijndevos: you can look at /var/log/apt/history.log to see what you installed/updated | 20:04 |
| dckusr | any chance to make th psckage python-opencv not bring in the whole world in it ? | 20:04 |
| qwebirc80019 | hi | 20:12 |
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| qwebirc80019 | I just unstalled ubuntu 18.4 and firefox crash every time when i want to open a tab. i have a error code brokencount 0 | 20:13 |
| qwebirc80019 | i cant install anyting, skype, or steam wtc.. | 20:13 |
| lordcirth_ | qwebirc80019, what happens when you try to install something with apt? | 20:14 |
| OerHeks | mint 18.4? | 20:14 |
| pavlos | did you update/upgrade after install? | 20:15 |
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| qwebirc80019 | lordcirth, nothing happen, i succesfully installed gulp with apt-get | 20:19 |
| qwebirc80019 | but apt-get update not working, its say "a problem occured when checking for the updates" | 20:20 |
| qwebirc80019 | and terminal stopped | 20:20 |
| qwebirc80019 | firefox says critically out of date, but i cant update | 20:22 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: so you cannot open a temrinal window and work in it now? | 20:22 |
| dckusr | is there any ubuntu developers irc channel / | 20:23 |
| skybl | Hello. I have been working on setting up CUPS on my home server. | 20:23 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: was your ubuntu installation successful, did it report that ubuntu was installed properly? | 20:23 |
| SlidingHorn | dckusr: #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-dev | 20:23 |
| skybl | I am installing it to interface with my Brother MFC-7820N through USB. | 20:23 |
| qwebirc80019 | I can install everything in terminal, but i cant use apt-get update, its says now /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 20:24 |
| skybl | I have installed all the drivers for the printer, and cups successfully starts up, and I can even access the web interface. | 20:24 |
| skybl | However, I can only access said interface's Administrator section on the server itself, and I would like to access it from my personal machine. | 20:24 |
| qwebirc80019 | my firefox crash every time, i cant install chromium from "Ubuntu Software" app but i can install in terminal | 20:25 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: run this in terminal and report the output: dpkg --configure -a 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:25 |
| tomreyn | <tomreyn> qwebirc80019: was your ubuntu installation successful, did it report that ubuntu was installed properly? | 20:25 |
| pavlos | can you give the url from sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:26 |
| qwebirc80019 | its says a link: https://termbin.com/srna | 20:26 |
| skybl | I get a forbidden every time I try to access it from my machine. AFAIK, I need to expect a pop-up on the browser that asks me for my credentials to sign in. However, I do not see it | 20:26 |
| pavlos | prefix with sudo | 20:27 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: sudo dpkg --configure -a 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:27 |
| qwebirc80019 | with sudo: sj58 | 20:27 |
| jeblad | I'm using Ubu 18.04 with GeForce GTX 960/PCIe/SSE2 with a dual screen setup. One of the screens is a Samsung 4k. Lately the 4k screen has started to go black for a few sec, then turn back on. It seems like it has something to do with redrawing the Window for Firefox, but I'm not sure. Before this started the Firefox window tried to redraw in rapid sequences, and visually it seemed like it were the same area area redrawn again and again. | 20:27 |
| qwebirc80019 | https://termbin.com/sj58 | 20:27 |
| jeblad | Anyone with an idea whats going on? | 20:28 |
| jeblad | When the screen goes black it often does it in a sequence. | 20:28 |
| skybl | pavlos: prefix with sudo? Meaning, start CUPS prefixed with sudo? I have already done that | 20:28 |
| pavlos | skybl: no, the mesg was someone else | 20:29 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:29 |
| skybl | ohh | 20:29 |
| pavlos | skybl: my error, I should have put the nick | 20:29 |
| qwebirc80019 | pavlos, do u have any idea what can i do with this? https://termbin.com/sj58 :S | 20:30 |
| pavlos | qwebirc80019: you have a chromium dependency so apt gets upset | 20:31 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: apt-cache policy chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:31 |
| qwebirc80019 | Tomreyn: https://termbin.com/inux | 20:33 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: did you miss "chromium-browser-l10n" when you typed this? | 20:35 |
| qwebirc80019 | no | 20:35 |
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| tomreyn | since the output seems incomplete | 20:35 |
| tomreyn | <tomreyn> qwebirc80019: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:35 |
| tomreyn | <tomreyn> qwebirc80019: was your ubuntu installation successful, did it report that ubuntu was installed properly? | 20:35 |
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| tomreyn | please also repond to these | 20:36 |
| jeblad | No one with a clue? | 20:36 |
| qwebirc80019 | Tomreyn: https://termbin.com/asuw | 20:36 |
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| tomreyn | <tomreyn> qwebirc80019: was your ubuntu installation successful, did it report that ubuntu was installed properly? | 20:38 |
| qwebirc80019 | yes, it was succesful installed, to a brand new sdd i bought that 2 hours ago | 20:39 |
| tomreyn | ssd, right? | 20:39 |
| qwebirc80019 | yeh, solid state drive | 20:40 |
| tomreyn | please run: sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:40 |
| qwebirc80019 | Tomreyn: https://termbin.com/1v2w | 20:40 |
| OerHeks | sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # and reboot, your system is a few packages & a kernel behind | 20:42 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: sudo apt-get -fy install 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:42 |
| qwebirc80019 | Tomreyn: https://termbin.com/old4 | 20:43 |
| OerHeks | compressed data is corrupt, ah | 20:44 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: df -h 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:45 |
| Cheez | hm, im in for a fun time, as root, instead of doing cd /etc/systemd/system i did rm -rf /etc/systemd/system | 20:45 |
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| qwebirc80019 | Tomreyn: https://termbin.com/r0m3 | 20:46 |
| qwebirc80019 | ops | 20:46 |
| qwebirc80019 | sry | 20:46 |
| qwebirc80019 | sec | 20:46 |
| qwebirc80019 | https://termbin.com/avll | 20:47 |
| ioria | qwebirc80019, i think you need to clean the cache and /var/cache/apt/archives/ | 20:48 |
| OerHeks | indeed ioria, that faulty package starts this chain | 20:49 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: sudo dpkg --purge chromium-browser 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/chromium-browser_71.0.3578.98-0ubuntu0.18.04.1_amd64.deb; sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:49 |
| ioria | qwebirc80019, also sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoclean might help | 20:50 |
| OerHeks | Cheez, backup your data while your system is running | 20:50 |
| tomreyn | Cheez: i think you need to, at least: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall install init-system-helpers systemd | 20:52 |
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| pavlos | Cheez: a long shot ... install liveCD on a vm (different system), then tarball /etc/systemd/system/ then bring it to your system | 20:52 |
| Cheez | i'm just restoring the backup | 20:53 |
| Cheez | i forgot i had them | 20:53 |
| tomreyn | it's definitely much better to forget you have backups than to forget to do backups. ;-) | 20:54 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: are you still on it? | 20:55 |
| pavlos | we lost qwebir ... | 20:58 |
| qwebirc80019 | Tomreyn: https://termbin.com/v6rc | 20:59 |
| qwebirc80019 | Tomreyn: https://termbin.com/6ub8 | 20:59 |
| qwebirc80019 | yes sry im just slow | 21:00 |
| pavlos | qwebirc80019: sudo apt clean | 21:03 |
| qwebirc80019 | pavlos: i did | 21:04 |
| pavlos | qwebirc80019: dpkg -l | grep chromium | 21:04 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; sudo apt-get install chromium-browser 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 21:06 |
| qwebirc80019 | pavlos: https://termbin.com/qyf7 | 21:06 |
| Cheez | tomreyn: aye, just have to wait for it to stage on amazon glacier | 21:07 |
| visone | howdy¡ | 21:07 |
| qwebirc80019 | Tomreyn: https://termbin.com/wbba | 21:08 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: oh, i made the same little mistake again, forgot the 'y' | 21:08 |
| tomreyn | sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -fy install 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; sudo apt-get install -y chromium-browser 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 21:08 |
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| qwebirc80019 | Tomreyn: https://termbin.com/bdt1g https://termbin.com/cj3am | 21:10 |
| pavlos | qwebirc80019: sudo apt update ... does it work w/o errors? | 21:11 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: sudo apt install pastebinit 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 && sudo apt-get -Vys full-upgrade 2>&1 | pastebinit | 21:12 |
| qwebirc80019 | pavlos: apt update : https://termbin.com/h936 | 21:13 |
| pavlos | qwebirc80019: great, your system is clean, it will be upgraded with tomreyn's note | 21:14 |
| Peyam | Hi, do you know any good editor that shows the trailing white spaces? | 21:15 |
| tomreyn | Peyam: vim can do so, surely emacs, too | 21:15 |
| qwebirc80019 | Tomreyn: https://termbin.com/avhm | 21:16 |
| qwebirc80019 | i did something wrong? | 21:16 |
| Peyam | tomreyn, never used vim? is it lightweight? cause it is 30 mb. Im running xfce | 21:17 |
| OerHeks | geany too, and auto removal of white space | 21:17 |
| OerHeks | !ide | 21:17 |
| ubottu | Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator | 21:17 |
| Peyam | eclipse then? | 21:17 |
| tomreyn | Peyam: try this in ~/.vimrc https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zpvZ53SYKm/ | 21:18 |
| SlidingHorn | Peyam: vim is going to be *FAR* lighter than eclipse. It's a text editor vs a full-blown IDE | 21:18 |
| qwebirc80019 | idk what happening, i have a clean ubuntu install without thirdparty drivers, and nothing work now :S | 21:19 |
| Peyam | tomreyn, I don't have vim | 21:19 |
| qwebirc80019 | except chromium | 21:19 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: i don't think you executed the commands wrong, it''S just that something is very wrong with your installation,. may i suggest to reinstall, using a re-downloaded and re-done installer? | 21:19 |
| murthy | Sushi-san: ocrfeeder is best | 21:19 |
| murthy | pepijndevos: try using debsums to check for the integrity of the installed packages | 21:20 |
| pavlos | qwebirc80019: your sudo apt update was clean | 21:20 |
| SlidingHorn | Peyam: If I remember correctly, it's installed by default with Ubuntu... | 21:20 |
| qwebirc80019 | i downloaded the image file from official ubuntu website 3 hours ago | 21:20 |
| OerHeks | sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # and reboot | 21:21 |
| tomreyn | Peyam: well, install it then :) it's primarily targetted at working in a terminal, though, and you will need to learn some commands at first to be able to navigate and do the usual things. | 21:21 |
| qwebirc80019 | maybe i have something wrong with my usb installation? i wrote the disk with "startup disk creator" | 21:22 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: do you still have the image? | 21:22 |
| qwebirc80019 | yes | 21:22 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: run a checksumming utility against it | 21:22 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu#0 | 21:23 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: if this looks too complicated, just tell use the ISO file name and file size, exactly, in single bytes | 21:24 |
| ComeOnDieYoung | :v | 21:25 |
| ComeOnDieYoung | quit | 21:25 |
| qwebirc80019 | okay | 21:25 |
| qwebirc80019 | Tomreyn: ubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso size of files: 1,8 GiB (1.953.349.632 byte) size on disk: 1,8 GiB (1.953.357.824 byte) | 21:26 |
| pavlos | qwebirc80019: verify http://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/SHA256SUMS | 21:27 |
| qwebirc80019 | so my image file is ok? | 21:28 |
| tomreyn | qwebirc80019: okay, the file size looks correct. download and install https://www.balena.io/etcher/ and use it to write the ISO file to the installer storage. | 21:28 |
| tomreyn | it will verify the data was written properly and confirm so, if so. | 21:29 |
| qwebirc80019 | okay | 21:29 |
| Peyam | tomreyn, I found it in eclipse yeeeey | 21:29 |
| tomreyn | Peyam: which was, i assume, a 780 MB download? | 21:29 |
| Peyam | tomreyn, I had it installed and need it anyway :( for java, python and c | 21:30 |
| tomreyn | either way, i'm glad you found a solution which works for you ;-) | 21:30 |
| Peyam | tomreyn, thanks buddy | 21:32 |
| pavlos | Peyam: in vi :set list will show the end of line as $ you can see the spaces in between | 21:32 |
| Peyam | thanks pavlos | 21:32 |
| qwebirc80019 | tomreyn, pavlos, thank you guys for help, i have to go sleep now, im coming back tommorow with infos | 21:50 |
| qwebirc80019 | thanks again! | 21:50 |
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| azizLIGHT | how do i tell which ppa is causing error on sudo apt-get update? | 22:06 |
| OerHeks | azizLIGHT, pastebin the output, it should be clear in the error | 22:08 |
| OerHeks | the adress might be the same as the ppa name, but a quick bing will tell | 22:09 |
| azizLIGHT | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/58fT7hM32H/ | 22:10 |
| azizLIGHT | i think its something nvidia related | 22:11 |
| tomreyn | azizLIGHT: 3 issues. | 22:14 |
| tomreyn | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/kozec/xUbuntu_14.04/Packages no longer exists | 22:14 |
| OerHeks | line 347 indeed, no 32 bit anymore http://dl.google.com/linux/musicmanager/deb/dists/stable/Release | 22:15 |
| tomreyn | http://dl.google.com/linux/musicmanager/deb/dists/stable/Release is only available for amd64, not i386 | 22:15 |
| tomreyn | and the apt repository on your own computer, at /var/cuda-repo-8-0-local-ga2/Packages doesn't exist anymore either. | 22:16 |
| tomreyn | azizLIGHT: this is probably the 'nvidia' issue. | 22:16 |
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| azizLIGHT | tomreyn: i have nothing in /var/ related to cuda | 22:17 |
| azizLIGHT | so im not sure what this error is from or how to fix it | 22:17 |
| OerHeks | and that packagecloud.io jessie .. | 22:17 |
| azizLIGHT | how do itell what package that is related to OerHeks | 22:18 |
| tomreyn | azizLIGHT: the warning is that /var/cuda-repo-8-0-local-ga2/Packages does *not* exist. it probably existed previously, but then you removed what was there, maybe be uninstalling a package. | 22:18 |
| tomreyn | azizLIGHT: you can grep -rl SOMEPATTERN /etc/apt/sources.list* | 22:19 |
| azizLIGHT | im trying to identify what programs/packages these errors correspond to, and if i should bother to fix the errors or not depending on that info | 22:19 |
| azizLIGHT | ah ok | 22:20 |
| tomreyn | SOMEPATTERN can be e.g. 'cuda-repo-8-0-local-ga2' | 22:20 |
| azizLIGHT | yeah im not finding any of that in sources.list hmm | 22:21 |
| tomreyn | azizLIGHT: you may have missed the * in /etc/apt/sources.list* | 22:22 |
| azizLIGHT | oh, yes i did | 22:22 |
| azizLIGHT | hmmm, still not finding anything: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YQ9tjn8Rnz/ | 22:24 |
| sparr | I have an ubuntu package that is out of date. I want to build the latest version from git sources, but using all the same configuration and options used to build the original package. How can I do that? | 22:24 |
| murthy | sparr: hi | 22:24 |
| sparr | ahoy | 22:25 |
| azizLIGHT | ah nevermind i dont put * in the sOMEPATTERN | 22:25 |
| tomreyn | azizLIGHT: try without the * around the search terms | 22:25 |
| OerHeks | on launchpad you could find the source and build details for that package | 22:26 |
| azizLIGHT | yes i just thought of it | 22:26 |
| murthy | sparr: you could go to the launcpad page of the software and get the debian stuff that is used to build the package | 22:26 |
| sparr | OerHeks: apt-get source says it can't find a source package for the package | 22:26 |
| murthy | sparr: can you tell me the software name? | 22:27 |
| sparr | i3 or i3-wm | 22:27 |
| murthy | sparr: do you know about snap packages? | 22:27 |
| sparr | not much | 22:28 |
| azizLIGHT | why would i get a gambas3 ppa? is it some dependency for some other program i have | 22:29 |
| OerHeks | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/i3-wm | 22:29 |
| murthy | sparr: i3 is a meta-package pointing to i3-wm | 22:29 |
| tomreyn | azizLIGHT: any ppa's you have you have manually configured. | 22:30 |
| azizLIGHT | could adding 1 ppa, in turn, put other ppas there during install | 22:30 |
| murthy | sparr: do you want to build and install the software or do you want to build a deb package? | 22:31 |
| azizLIGHT | or are all ppa added manually 1 by 1 | 22:31 |
| TJ- | azizLIGHT: in theory, packages could include files dropped in /etc/apt/apt.sources.d/ | 22:32 |
| tomreyn | azizLIGHT: any software you install or run as root could theoretically setup additional ppas. but doing so without your expressed intent / content would be very wrong. | 22:32 |
| murthy | tomreyn: chrome does that | 22:32 |
| murthy | tomreyn: It adds google's repo to the list | 22:32 |
| azizLIGHT | chrome installs gambas? | 22:32 |
| murthy | azizLIGHT: no | 22:33 |
| tomreyn | murthy: then it's good that chrome is not in ubuntu | 22:33 |
| azizLIGHT | that is messed up | 22:33 |
| murthy | azizLIGHT: I mean that google chrome adds its repo to the sources without the users confirmation | 22:33 |
| murthy | tomreyn: yep | 22:33 |
| pony | does chromium do the same? | 22:34 |
| SlidingHorn | pony: chromium doesn't use google's repos, so no. | 22:34 |
| pony | ok | 22:34 |
| murthy | I think most of the proprietary software doesn't inform the user while adding to the sources, I suspect nvidia, teamviewer | 22:34 |
| sparr | murthy: I wanted to build and install it with the same build options as the existing deb, but now I've just found a repo with the version I want | 22:35 |
| sparr | now I'm back to trying to debug my xrandr / X / intel problem | 22:35 |
| murthy | sparr: you mean you found a ppa? | 22:35 |
| azizLIGHT | given a package name, how can i determine which ppa it came from | 22:36 |
| TJ- | sparr: if you're debugging you'll need the matching debug symbols | 22:36 |
| TJ- | azizLIGHT: "apt-cache policy <package>" | 22:36 |
| sparr | murthy: no, I mean I found a repository with the package at the version I wanted | 22:36 |
| sparr | so, I am currently in a middle-ish state of the failure modes I have recently been experiencing | 22:36 |
| sparr | as of right now, any attempt to use xrandr on my external displays will fail | 22:37 |
| murthy | sparr: I think "sudo apt-cache policy <package name>" will give you the repo details | 22:37 |
| murthy | azizLIGHT: ^ | 22:37 |
| xrandr | le yawn | 22:38 |
| Mjasnik | azizLIGHT: | 22:38 |
| Mjasnik | ~$ apt-cache policy firefox | 22:38 |
| Mjasnik | firefox: | 22:38 |
| Mjasnik | Installed: 64.0+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 | 22:38 |
| Mjasnik | Candidate: 64.0+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 | 22:38 |
| Mjasnik | Version table: | 22:38 |
| Mjasnik | *** 64.0+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 500 | 22:38 |
| Mjasnik | 500 http://ubuntu.koyanet.lv/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 Packages | 22:38 |
| Mjasnik | 500 http://ubuntu.koyanet.lv/ubuntu bionic-security/main amd64 Packages | 22:38 |
| Mjasnik | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 22:38 |
| Mjasnik | 59.0.2+build1-0ubuntu1 500 | 22:38 |
| azizLIGHT | ouch | 22:38 |
| xrandr | sparr: Don't use me on your displays.....I'm not that pretty lmao :P :P | 22:39 |
| murthy | some one got booted, noob mistake | 22:39 |
| murthy | no warning at all? scarry | 22:39 |
| murthy | scary | 22:40 |
| sparr | I have disconnected every peripheral except a single HDMI connected external monitor. When I do `xrandr --output HDMI-1 --auto` or any other attempt to configure that display I get "xrandr: Configure crtc 1 failed". There are more steps before and after now in the chain of failures I've been encountering but I'd like to try to address this state because it's the one I can interact with the easiest. | 22:40 |
| sparr | xrandr: you're the best I've got :p | 22:43 |
| murthy | sparr: I have no idea regarding this, wait here for some time and someone with knowledge could help you, If not try again tomorrow. There is a user named Blueskaj he may be able to help you tomorror | 22:43 |
| murthy | tomorrow | 22:43 |
| xrandr | sparr: awww.... *flattered* | 22:43 |
| deepend | sparr: try adding --verbose to that command to get more error output? | 22:43 |
| murthy | sparr: ya xrandr could help you | 22:43 |
| TJ- | sparr: that crtc message usually indicates an internal problem in the driver. I've dealt with several of those over time. Usually its internal data-structure corruption. | 22:44 |
| xrandr | Actually I really can't. I usually autodetect all that stuff | 22:44 |
| TJ- | sparr: do you see accompanying messages in the kernel log? | 22:44 |
| sparr | deepend: I have many times, it's not especially informative | 22:45 |
| deepend | :C | 22:45 |
| azizLIGHT | got rid of that weird packagecloud.io jessie ppa... it was slack | 22:45 |
| azizLIGHT | i deleted /etc/apt/sources.list.d/slack.list | 22:46 |
| azizLIGHT | thats how you do it, correct? | 22:46 |
| sparr | deepend: https://gist.github.com/sparr/1bceb6f9a27f3401d0d165416772e453 | 22:46 |
| sparr | TJ-: I strongly suspect an internal driver problem. | 22:46 |
| deepend | you sure HDMI-1 is the correct name? | 22:46 |
| deepend | not like HDMI-0 or some such? | 22:47 |
| sparr | deepend: very sure. had a working config with that monitor very recently. | 22:47 |
| sparr | like, an hour ago | 22:47 |
| deepend | and it didn't change when you unplugged the other screens? | 22:48 |
| sparr | TJ-: not when I try the xrandr, or when the problem begins, but later if I put the computer to sleep and wake it up I expect X to crash as it has before. dmesg will report "[drm:intel_display_resume [i915]] *ERROR* Restoring old state failed with -22" when that happens | 22:48 |
| sparr | deepend: it did not | 22:48 |
| sparr | HDMI-1 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) | 22:49 |
| sparr | 2560x1440 74.60 + 59.95 | 22:49 |
| sparr | etc etc | 22:49 |
| sparr | before I disconnected everything to troubleshoot, after the problem started, there was a very specific and repeatable failure mode that was much weirder | 22:50 |
| tomreyn | azizLIGHT: correctly you'd also purge the package sinstalled from there, and remove the apt repository signing keys | 22:51 |
| deepend | what happens if you replace the auto flag with specific mode? | 22:51 |
| sparr | same thing | 22:52 |
| puxavida | I've testing zfs on ubuntu and with raid 10 (4 disks) you can start with 1 disk, add another to create a raid 1, then add 2 more to create a raid 10. But if you take the disks out and try to use them as one again, it doesn't like that. It wants at least 1 disk from the second raid 1 set. Can you tell it to go back to no raid10 and then no raid1 to just be a single disk again? | 22:52 |
| sparr | for any specific mode | 22:52 |
| TJ- | sparr: the Intel i915 driver has got distinctly buggy over recent times. Does this happen after a cold boot and *before* doing an S3 suspend? | 22:52 |
| sparr | and for long complicated configurations that worked an hour ago and include position, rotation, etc | 22:52 |
| sparr | TJ-: no. everything works fine on a cold boot. everything also works fine after X dies and restarts. the problems seem to be restricted to after the first suspend+wake and before X dies on a future suspend+wake | 22:53 |
| sparr | should I be trying the non-modesetting driver? | 22:53 |
| azizLIGHT | tomreyn: thats a step i had totally forgot: removing the signing keys of old ppas... i probably have tons of old ones now | 22:53 |
| TJ- | sparr: thought so... ACPI issue in all likelyhood. Are you using an acpi_osi workaround? | 22:54 |
| tomreyn | azizLIGHT: yours is probably not the only system with this issue. | 22:54 |
| sparr | TJ-: I haven't done anything special with ACPI yet | 22:55 |
| TJ- | sparr: I'd strongly recommend trying that first, it could save you a lot of grief. http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html | 22:55 |
| OerHeks | sparr, that funny issue again, and what did you do the last time to fix this with DP ? | 22:55 |
| sparr | OerHeks: eventually X errors out and restarts, or I reboot, and it all works again for a while | 22:56 |
| TJ- | sparr: if you test that I'll dig into the i915 source-code to determine what causes error -22 | 22:56 |
| OerHeks | " I have resolved my monitor problem from last night. The root cause was bandwidth limits on the USB3.1-over-USBC port leading to my dock, which capped out" | 22:58 |
| OerHeks | is this also connected through your dock? | 22:58 |
| azizLIGHT | can i leave /etc/apt/sources.list.d/something.list.save while deeleting something.list | 22:58 |
| azizLIGHT | as a way to remember i had something like that there | 22:59 |
| sparr | TJ-: ok, that seemed to add 'acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2017"' to my kernel options | 22:59 |
| azizLIGHT | or must both be deleted | 22:59 |
| azizLIGHT | something.list and something.list.save | 22:59 |
| sparr | OerHeks: I am using the dock when the problem starts, but removing the dock during troubleshooting right now. I am no longer using two displays through the dock due to the bandwidth limitation | 22:59 |
| sparr | azizLIGHT: you can leave the .save I think | 22:59 |
| sparr | TJ-: ok, I shall reboot with those two new kernel options and try to reproduce the problem now. That is the next step? | 23:02 |
| sparr | the formatting seems weird | 23:02 |
| tomreyn | azizLIGHT: you can keep .save, it'll be ignored. | 23:02 |
| azizLIGHT | thanks got it | 23:03 |
| leonardus | <tomreyn> leonardus: i even got it on this screen shot https://i.imgur.com/fdZSuti.png | 23:04 |
| leonardus | I don't see anything out of the ordinary there. | 23:04 |
| TJ- | sparr: yes, that is correct | 23:04 |
| TJ- | sparr: the -22 is EINVAL ... trying to figure out which code causes it | 23:05 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: good :) | 23:05 |
| leonardus | hm? | 23:06 |
| sparr | TJ-: ok, rebooting now. before I go, here's some dmesg output with drm debug turned on prompted by #intel-gfx: https://gist.github.com/sparr/6d11064c42785bbb646fa63f12635605 | 23:07 |
| tomreyn | leonardus: well with the browser window positioned at some spots on my desktop i guet these flashes. it's good that you don't. | 23:07 |
| leonardus | tomreyn, I meant I didn't see anything out of the ordinary in the screenshot (and also when trying to reproduce it). Are you referring to the color of the text? because that's the only difference I notice. | 23:12 |
| leonardus | Because mine is black-on-green, yours looks to be tan-on-white | 23:13 |
| sparr | TJ-: quickly reproduced the problem after rebooting with your kernel options (which I still think look really weird!). only new thing is an additional dmesg line shortly after X crashes: | 23:14 |
| sparr | [drm:intel_cpu_fifo_underrun_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun | 23:14 |
| sparr | TJ-: someone in #intel-gfx seems to know what they are talking about, re the drm code in the intel driver and the EINVAL return code and the debug messages that should go with it. Would you be willing to join me over there? | 23:15 |
| TJ- | sparr: Yes, I'm that channel too :) | 23:17 |
| azizLIGHT | what is the command line equivalent of clicking the different options in 'additional drivers' https://i.imgur.com/ZaIFC6D.png | 23:21 |
| murthy | azizLIGHT: I thinik there is a jocky cli version | 23:22 |
| azizLIGHT | i want to see the logs while this sensitive process of switching gpu drivers | 23:22 |
| azizLIGHT | *doing | 23:22 |
| murthy | azizLIGHT: I think jockey got removed | 23:22 |
| murthy | azizLIGHT: https://askubuntu.com/questions/441415/what-has-jockey-been-replaced-with-in-14-04/441416 | 23:23 |
| OerHeks | sudo ubuntu-drivers list | 23:23 |
| OerHeks | sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall # for the recommended driver, or; sudo apt install nvidia-340 from the list | 23:24 |
| Gen86 | hey im using an old imac for linux learning but when i have headphones pluged in I hear noise when i dont have any sound playing | 23:25 |
| Gen86 | cant figure out which setting to stop it | 23:26 |
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| OerHeks | noise sounds like volume too high, or interference from a fridge or smartphone or bad wiring | 23:27 |
| Gen86 | nah even with the sound muted | 23:27 |
| Gen86 | smart phone, nah im too poor for smartphone | 23:28 |
| Gen86 | fridge... not in a kitchen | 23:28 |
| bindi | is it charging? | 23:28 |
| Gen86 | bad wiring ... that might be a reason | 23:28 |
| Gen86 | at least of the ones you said | 23:28 |
| OerHeks | old hardware perhaps, if this sound was external i would check the wire/replace it | 23:28 |
| Gen86 | I mean it does play normal sounds fine | 23:29 |
| OerHeks | maybe the guys in ##hardware have a bright idea | 23:29 |
| Gen86 | just when it's not it has the sound | 23:29 |
| bindi | if its charging its somewhat "normal" (afaik) to have the metal body chassis have a tingly feeling to it because of voltage leaking, that might be the cause of it | 23:29 |
| bindi | again: is it charging, Gen86? | 23:29 |
| Gen86 | um these are earbuds | 23:29 |
| Gen86 | they dont charge | 23:29 |
| bindi | oh imac | 23:30 |
| Gen86 | lol | 23:30 |
| bindi | sorry i was thinking of a macbook | 23:30 |
| Gen86 | it's an old imac im using to learn linux | 23:30 |
| Gen86 | and as a computer while my main machine might be rip | 23:30 |
| Gen86 | lol | 23:30 |
| bindi | well is it connected to a grounded outlet? | 23:30 |
| Gen86 | yeah should be | 23:30 |
| Gen86 | its in a ups | 23:30 |
| bindi | if you connect a pc power supply to ungrounded outlet, the case will have 115Vac on it | 23:30 |
| bindi | because of the noise filtering | 23:30 |
| bindi | and it can cause all kinds of problems | 23:31 |
| bindi | like if you connect your TV with HDMI to your PC, and the TV is already grounded from the antenna cable, things might break | 23:31 |
| bindi | same with speakers | 23:31 |
| Gen86 | well it's got internal speakers | 23:33 |
| bindi | wasn't my point :p | 23:33 |
| bindi | is the UPS in a grounded socket? | 23:34 |
| Gen86 | should be | 23:34 |
| bindi | should | 23:34 |
| bindi | lol | 23:34 |
| Gen86 | I have no idea | 23:34 |
| Gen86 | im just being honest | 23:34 |
| Gen86 | also if i do have to eventually get a new build (slow process cuz money saving) i naturally am kind of scared of windows 10 ,is there any specific hardware guidelines for linux such as ubuntu or my case xubuntu | 23:34 |
| Gen86 | which i guess is the same requirements | 23:34 |
| Gen86 | esp if i did want to game | 23:35 |
| Gen86 | or am i stuck dual booting 10 and linux | 23:35 |
| Gen86 | also weirdly the static noise stopped | 23:36 |
| Gen86 | out of nowhere | 23:36 |
| Gen86 | lol | 23:36 |
| Gen86 | nm for now | 23:36 |
| Gen86 | damn computers | 23:36 |
| Gen86 | i love putting em together and using em but damn do they wanna give me hard times | 23:36 |
| Gen86 | wait no.. it's back | 23:37 |
| Gen86 | lol | 23:37 |
| Gen86 | I mean i guess i could try speakers with a headphone jack | 23:38 |
| Gen86 | and see if that does anything | 23:38 |
| Gen86 | instead of directly into it | 23:38 |
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