[00:02] <Roenie_> cheeky question: what would be the main reasons to use kubuntu instead of debian, for a plasma5 desktop?
[00:05] <Roenie_> 'cause right now I can grab debian testing ("buster") and it will have slightly newer Plasma and won' t be EOL in july
[00:09] <Roenie_> the only problem is debian has no up-to-date live boot images, so I can't try it out... any particular reason to stick with the "specialized" plasma distro, kubuntu?
[00:11] <Roenie_> is the work for kubuntu mostly taking debian sources and canonicalizing them, or is there extra work involved that makes it a straight up better KDE experience?
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[02:27] <janat08> im trying to share my folder (under properties), and settings that really give access (read rights or guest access) don't save. I assume that sudo is required for that but I don't get the prompt. This is one of those times when sudo dolphin would be nice.
[02:28] <janat08> is there a samba client for that
[02:28] <janat08> or file manager with same options
[14:15] <kent1402> Hello, Kubuntus!
[14:16] <kent1402> Do you guys have any kde themes recommendation for me? I'm kind of bored of seing the vanilla breeze though
[14:16] <kent1402> Thank you
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:22] <kent1402> BluesKaj: Hi!
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Hi kent1402
[15:56] <lolTest> Question regarding Konversation (KDE IRC client): Are identity passwords stored in clear text somewhere and if yes, where can I find them? I forgot to note my password. The password is still saved in Konversation but I cannot see it in cleartext.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> lolTest, I think the #freenode chat could help you there with a command to run in the freenode server tab
[16:05] <BluesKaj> I'd also try the #konversation chat, but it's not very active sometimes
[16:29] <lolTest> It is not the freenode server I forgot the password for
[16:31] <BluesKaj> did you set a pw for the chatrooms?
[16:31] <lolTest> a pw for the nick on a different server
[16:31] <BluesKaj> which server/
[16:32] <lolTest> I can still autoconnect because it is saved
[16:32] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:32] <lolTest> a server from my school
[16:32] <lolTest> the password recovery script seem not to work
[16:32] <BluesKaj> you need a pw for freenode , that's probly the one you entered in your  setup
[16:33] <lolTest> I need to find the config files for konversation
[16:34] <BluesKaj> unless you didn't register a nick and pw in freenode
[16:38] <lolTest> problem solved, I could recover my password from the logfiles!
[16:43] <BluesKaj> which log?
[16:45] <lolTest> the channel and server logfiles of Konversation
[16:46] <lolTest> in ~/logs
[16:50] <BluesKaj> yes,but whichone?
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[16:54] <lolTest> the commands I used to register were logged and so was the password
[17:28] <BluesKaj> hmm, I don't see my pw in any feenode server logs , but you say you don't use the freenode server, how is that possible?
[17:42] <lolTest> there are more IRC networks than just freenode. Quakenet is another very big IRC network totally unrealted to freenode with it's own servers.
[17:44] <BluesKaj> yes of course but connecting to kubuntu support chat is on freenode
[17:45] <lolTest> yes it is. I was asking the question in Kubuntu because it was related to Konversation, a program shipped with Kubuntu
[17:59] <BluesKaj> and most kde/plasma DEs depending on the OS
[20:21] <westor> i've just update my old laptop from windows to kubuntu and my network isn't on the list (it was with full signal on windows before)
[20:21] <westor> any ideas how to solve that?
[20:22] <diogenes_> westor, and others?
[20:22] <westor> sorry?
[20:22] <diogenes_> do you see any other networks?
[20:22] <bprompt> westor:   he meant other networks listed if any
[20:22] <westor> yes
[20:23] <Alexfrench> no wifi ?
[20:23] <bprompt> westor:   are you connecting on cat5?
[20:23] <diogenes_> try rebooting your router
[20:23] <westor> i already reboot the router
[20:23] <westor> and it is wifi
[20:24] <diogenes_> maybe there is not a full list maybe you need to scroll down?
[20:24] <westor> yes i did and this but it is not listed at all
[20:24] <westor> the router is pretty close with the laptop
[20:25] <westor> as i was connected from windows before upgrade before
[20:25] <diogenes_> so you can see all the neighbor neotworks but yours?
[20:25] <westor> yes mine is not there
[20:25] <bprompt> westor:    does "iwconfig" show it by any chance?  in the console that is
[20:26] <diogenes_> westor, can you see your network on your phone or another device?
[20:26] <westor> yes i can and my android is connected too
[20:27] <diogenes_> that's pretty weird, open your driver manager
[20:27] <diogenes_> see if you have a driver for your wireless card
[20:27] <westor> its my first time on kubuntu so i don't know where is drive manager
[20:27] <diogenes_> open the menu and type in driver
[20:28] <westor> ok i did
[20:28] <westor> it say's: You computer requires no proprietary drivers
[20:29] <diogenes_> weird
[20:29] <diogenes_> did you see it listed while installing?.
[20:29] <westor> no
[20:29] <bprompt> something tells me it's in the wifi manager listed, just off the scrollbar or something
[20:30] <Alexfrench> what is the wifi card ?
[20:30] <bprompt> westor:    tried "iwconfig" in the console yet?
[20:31] <diogenes_> that's a good thought ^^^ list your networks in terminal
[20:31] <westor> that "iwconfig" how can i run it
[20:31] <bprompt> westor:   type it in :)
[20:31] <diogenes_> and hit enter
[20:31] <westor> ah ok
[20:31] <westor> i type it and pressed enter
[20:32] <westor> nothing opens
[20:32] <bprompt> eh?    in the console, not the "run" box,   as in, run say Konsole first and then type that in
[20:32] <westor> yes
[20:32] <westor> ok did it now in console
[20:33] <westor> and got some messages
[20:33] <Alexfrench> search the word terminal on kubuntu
[20:33] <bprompt> westor:   and nothing shows up?  that'd list all interfaces and networks
[20:33] <westor> gimme a sec to screenshot
[20:33] <diogenes_> westor, don'
[20:33] <diogenes_> make screenshot
[20:33] <diogenes_> better run this: iwconfig | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:34] <diogenes_> you gonna get a link and share the link here
[20:37] <westor> https://i.imgur.com/CXOzWC3.jpg
[20:40] <bprompt> hmmmmmm
[20:41] <westor> https://i.imgur.com/ZvIFZPV.jpg
[20:41] <bprompt> westor:    I'm not in Kwin myself, I use WICD as network manager..... but I think you can simply add the wifi network, or some other network off a provided list from the Kwin network manager, which is just a plasma widget
[20:47] <westor> i don't know what is Kwin or WICD but i cannot find out how to solve this
[20:49] <Alexfrench> have you check the card's brand and if there are drivers for it
[20:50] <westor> i don't know my card to search
[20:50] <westor> because it is my first time i have this issue
[20:50] <Alexfrench> for sure before you have windows
[20:51] <westor> yes i did win10
[20:51] <Alexfrench> and you laptop which it is ?
[20:51] <Alexfrench> model one ?
[20:51] <westor> acer aspire 5741G
[20:51] <Alexfrench> ok
[20:52] <westor> 6gb ram + ssd on
[20:53] <Alexfrench> with nvidia ?
[20:53] <westor> yes
[20:53] <westor> 320m
[20:53] <Alexfrench> core i3
[20:53] <westor> i5 430m
[21:06] <westor> i don't know if this https://gist.github.com/glombard/18a7ea331cfc93aff17b is related with my problem
[21:08] <Alexfrench> in fact i am looking for characteristics on google
[21:08] <Alexfrench> but it never tells me what is the exact wifi card
[21:08] <Alexfrench> so finding the right driver is difficult
[21:09] <westor> how can i do that from kubuntu
[21:09] <westor> to find out the wifi card
[21:11] <Alexfrench> on windows there are software to do that
[21:11] <Alexfrench> on kubuntu i don't know
[21:13] <westor> https://askubuntu.com/questions/384042/no-wifi-connection-with-acer-aspire-5741g
[21:16] <Alexfrench> did you try what it is said on the link ?
[21:17] <westor> yes
[21:18] <westor> everything was already as 'no'
[21:18] <Alexfrench> nothing ?
[21:18] <westor> it weren't already blocked
[21:19] <Alexfrench> on windows what was the name of the wifi card if you remember ?
[21:19] <Alexfrench> the peripherical one ?
[21:21] <westor> Broadcom it was the brand
[21:21] <westor> as i can remember
[21:24] <westor> i am at 80% sure that is : Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4357] (rev 01)
[21:27] <westor> i've found a command line : $ lspci -vnn -d 14e4:
[21:27] <westor> in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless article
[21:28] <westor> i executed let me show you the card infos
[21:30] <westor> so finally this is the wifi + ethernet cards specs: https://i.imgur.com/39tDEfP.jpg
[21:52] <Alexfrench> https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[22:41] <oceanquake> For NetworkManager, how can I set default behaviors such as MAC address randomization, not to include the hostname in dhcp requests, etc.?  I've tried creating a file in /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d with a [connection] stanza that does these things, but it seems to be unused or overridden by other layers in the NM stack?
[22:43] <oceanquake> I don't see any place to set these options at the overall default level, just on a per-connection level for some things such as MAC addr.  I don't see any place to do things like tell it not to send hostnames.
[23:57] <EdgyMC_69> Hi. I have installed qemu and made a CentOS VM. After a few days the internet for my host stopped working. It's the second time it happened but it fixed itself after reinstalling but now it's different. The NIC works in Windows but not in live-cd Kubuntu nor in installed Kubuntu. Do you have any ideas?