[04:20] <JanC> arooni: byobu can also show some very high level statistics...
[21:43] <fallenour> hey everybody! Im having an odd issue with my install from 18.04LTS base image. I installed via bootable usb, installed Ubuntu using disk option "using * with LVM", and it installed, but added my primary disk space to sda3, used almost none of the availble space, installed all of my snaps at 100% disk usage for the /dev/loop/* instances, respective to each snap instance, and now Im unable to finish any snap configurations. A
[21:44] <leftyfb> fallenour: again, the snaps using 100% of their read-only mounted containers is normal and not related to your issue at all
[21:45] <leftyfb> Your issue is you only partitioned out 4gb of space to your root filesystem. You need to resize it
[21:46] <fallenour> leftyfb: I understand that, but at some point, I need to be able to finish the application configuration install, which is part of the app, which is the snap. If the snap configuration file is whats being referenced in the snap instance itself, then it would have to be modifying the snap. "/var/snap/nextcloud/common/nextcloud/data " is the filespace referenced for the configuration change, which to the best of my knowledge, 
[21:47] <leftyfb> No
[21:47] <fallenour> know if that will interact directlly with teh stored space for that specific snap instance though, only that I do know its going to change the snap configuration.
[21:47] <fallenour> leftyfb: No? I was told that /var/snap is where all snaps install, and thats where all the configuration files for snap are held. is there another place they are located?
[21:48] <leftyfb> Your issue you need to address is resizing your / partition
[21:48] <fallenour> leftyfb: Ok, we can at the very least digest this one issue at a time. Whats the safest way for us to resize the / directory size to the other 400+ GB avialble in sda3?
[21:49] <fallenour> leftyfb: can we rob from peter to pay paul so to speak?
[21:49] <leftyfb> boot a live CD and use the lvm tools and maybe gparted
[21:50] <fallenour> leftyfb: yea I found this, but I dont know if I can do that with / : https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/351961/moving-space-from-one-partition-to-another
[21:51] <leftyfb> you're running what sounds like a production system with high availability and lvm and don't know how to use lvm or how to resize partitions?
[21:52] <leftyfb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions # first result on Google for "lvm resize root partition"
[21:52] <fallenour> leftyfb: to be perfectly honest? No. Not the slightest. I usually use Ceph for everythign storage related, but I want to at least try to be better. I havent used LVM in a long time now because I would simply work within ceph and use ceph osd pools instead of lvm, and so ive gotten really rusty with lvm.
[21:52] <leftyfb> Time to catch up
[21:53] <leftyfb> https://www.google.com/amp/s/computingforgeeks.com/extending-root-filesystem-using-lvm-linux/amp/
[21:53] <leftyfb> Probably a better link
[21:54] <fallenour> leftyfb: yea, its about time to pull out that polishing rag. I just want to make sure I dont damage anything. Once I get things up and running, its full production helping a lot of people who realyl need it. I dotn want to be the cause of lost data, and then the peopel we are helping end up suffering for it.
[21:54] <leftyfb> To be honest, it's been many years since I've actually used lvm to resize anything. But I do remember funding documentation on it was easy
[21:55] <leftyfb> If that's the case, then you need to understand how to manage these systems 100% in the case of failure
[21:56] <leftyfb> Good luck
[21:57] <fallenour> leftyfb: Yea, thats why im working on it. Production will allow for 0% margin of error, which is totally crushing me morale wise. Its a lot of stress, but its goign to be totalyl worth it in the end, I just need to get there. If I had known 18.04 direct build would have been this much hassle, I would have built 16.04 and upgraded from there.
[21:58] <leftyfb> I've done 18.04 installs with no issue. It must have been something you did during the install
[21:58] <fallenour> leftyfb: wiat, thats actualyl a good point. I can just rebuild, theres no data on it currently. What would I need to do in the build menu to fix this issue? All ILl need to rebuild is 2 servers.
[21:59] <leftyfb> wipe the drive and so a normal install. Read what it says and make sure your selections are doing what you want
[21:59] <fallenour> leftyfb: I went with all the default options, configured lan, gateway, dns, and selected which packages to install. Do you think that was the issue? Also, how much space would you recommend I give to root? I have no idea whats a good allocation for that.
[21:59] <leftyfb> All of it
[21:59] <fallenour> leftyfb: so all of the availble space?
[21:59] <leftyfb> Do you have any reason not to?
[22:00] <fallenour> leftyfb: no to the best of my knowledge. The web app servers will only server to host the applications in HA, with a 2 pair base for now, with the database HA clusters serving all of the data via the load balancers (HAProxy). to the best of my knowledge, Im not sure PostgreSQL (database chosen) will have to be on its own logical volume, and Ive seen no documentation recommending that as a best practice.
[22:50] <Intelo>  What are the top 3 fastest email delivery (speed/bursts) providers?
[23:51] <leftyfb> Intelo: looking to get into the spam game?
[23:56] <Intelo> leftyfb,  analyzing their power
[23:56] <leftyfb> Intelo: for what purpose? What does this have to do with ubuntu server?
[23:56] <Intelo> ubuntu will be the host os
[23:56] <Intelo> if I do it
[23:58] <leftyfb> what's the purpose?
[23:58] <Intelo> study?
[23:58] <Intelo> discuss
[23:58] <Intelo> info
[23:58] <Intelo> curiousity
[23:58] <Intelo> interest
[23:59] <Intelo> anyone with a real answer/interest?
[23:59] <mybalzitch> in spamming?
[23:59] <Intelo> welcomed
[23:59] <leftyfb> You might want to contact said companies to inform them of your testing. Some of them might have a ToS against what you're trying to do with their servide.
[23:59] <leftyfb> service*