[00:00] <Guest66396> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/skckPRJWZD/
[00:01] <Guest66396> !usb
[00:02] <OerHeks> !12.04
[00:02] <OerHeks> dead, eol
[00:02] <OerHeks> .. unless you pay for it, ESM
[00:02] <OerHeks> !esm
[00:02] <OerHeks> but not the community
[00:03] <OerHeks> 14.04 will be EOL in 3 months, so try 16.04 LTS or 18.04
[00:07] <Guest66396> !dvd
[00:07] <Guest66396> !14.04
[00:08] <Guest66396> !lubuntu
[00:08] <SlidingHorn> Guest66396: Can you take your requests to a private chat with ubottu?  /msg ubottu !command  will work
[00:09] <OerHeks> Lubuntu 14.04 had 3 years support
[00:14] <Guest66396> ## page was renamed from DesktopTeam/Unity
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[00:14] <Guest66396> ||<style="width: 600px; background-color: #FFFFAA;"> /!\ '''Notice:''' The information on this page is likely to change soon as we switch our development focus to the !UnityNext project.  For more information about !UnityNext, please read [[UnityNextSpec|the spec]].||
[00:14] <Guest66396> ##= Unity = H1/titles are redundant in the Ubuntu Wiki. This is already the page name and will be rendered as the top-most H1 as a result. (Note that it won't show up on the preview, but will after you save.)
[00:14] <Guest66396> The wiki documentation is targeting technical users, if you want to get an overview of Unity you might be interested ready those:
[00:14] <Guest66396>  * [[http://unity.ubuntu.com|Unity Homepage]]
[00:14] <Guest66396>  * [[attachment:Unity_Architecture.pdf|Unity Architecture]]
[00:14] <Guest66396>  * [[Unity/Lenses | Unity Lenses]] - Information for developers for implementing Unity Lenses, which are plugabble elements to the Unity Dash.
[00:14] <Guest66396>  * [[Unity/HUD | Unity HUD]] - '''[Experimental]''' Information for developers for integrating with the Unity HUD, which is an intent-driven alternate interface to application menus.
[00:14] <OerHeks> do not paste like that
[00:15] <OerHeks> !paste
[00:15] <OerHeks> and such page info is not really interesting
[00:29] <OerHeks> !info inkscape
[00:29] <OerHeks> !sru
[00:29] <OerHeks> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/1.0
[00:29] <OerHeks> this is a milestone
[00:53] <sorin-mihai> what was the 'default' for 16.04, mysql or mariadb?
[01:00] <OerHeks> both are available, dpends on your setup
[01:01] <OerHeks> apache/nginx - mysql/mariaDB/postgreSQL - php, perl,pythn
[01:04] <sorin-mihai> i know they are all available, but was mysql or mariadb the 'recommended' one, if one wanted to install a generic LAMP server?
[01:06] <OerHeks> lamp will give mysql
[01:06] <sorin-mihai> thanks!
[01:07] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[01:08] <memeemeee> so I'm wondering if my problem may be tempurature related. the dock blocks airflow. where could I investigate temp history issues?
[01:11] <OerHeks> not standard, installing sensord would give that, journalctl -u sensord >>  https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/269858/does-linux-typically-log-system-temperature-data
[01:29] <Rumen>  /msg NickServ identify (RS:NS)4
[01:30] <qwebirc91744> Hello,  I hope this is not off topic -- I'm looking to obtain either an .ISO for ubuntu server 18.04.1 amd64 with all .debs or a toolset / tutorial for building a custom .iso with the .debs that I need.  The target is not connected to the Internet
[01:34] <OerHeks> the server download is easy to find
[01:37] <courrier> I'm having random bugs that look driver bugs, the last one is: http://paste.debian.net/1061359/ when starting this IRC client, which opened in degraded UI mode (the old grey theme with square buttons, instead of my usual UI)
[01:37] <courrier> What does this stracktrace inspire to you?
[01:37] <OerHeks> cubic can edit your iso https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-iso-with-cubic/
[01:39] <OerHeks> courrier, is this in virtualbox?
[01:39] <courrier> OerHeks: No this is 18.04 on Dell XPS13
[01:40] <courrier> I always had compelte/partial freezes with Linux on this machine
[01:40] <OerHeks> there seems to be an bios update 2.6.2 https://www.dell.com/support/home/ae/en/aebsdt1/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=g05nr
[01:41] <courrier> OerHeks: Are you suggesting the update because you saw something suspicious in the stacktrace or just because I should always isntall the last version?
[01:42] <OerHeks> seen bios updates on xps13 fixed a lot of issues
[01:43] <courrier> Oh, ok
[01:43] <courrier> DO you know how to interpret the stacktrace though?
[01:43] <courrier> I don't even know wether it's an error, a fatal error, only a warning
[01:44] <courrier> because currently my systme is half-malfunctionning
[01:44] <courrier> some graphic stuff are broken, the display manager complains that something else is interferring so it can't start
[01:44] <courrier> and my IRC client degraded UI
[01:45] <courrier> has a*
[01:45] <OerHeks> is your system mounted properly, no errors  else it is RO ?
[01:46] <courrier> MAT Settings daemon just crashed because of SIGABRT in g_assertion_message()
[01:46] <courrier> RO?
[01:46] <OerHeks> 'mount' would tell
[01:47] <courrier> OerHeks: http://paste.debian.net/1061360/
[01:47] <OerHeks> seems fine
[01:47] <courrier> I don't think so right now. But I'm actually have this RO bug on a regular basis
[01:48] <courrier> Is this RO bug somehting you saw a lot on XPS13?
[01:48] <OerHeks> oke, before considering the bios update, read the fixes in between versions too
[01:49] <OerHeks> sure, but it is not xps13 specific,  those can give weird user experience with programs,
[01:51] <courrier> MMh
[01:51] <courrier> What could end up with / being mounted as RO? Some driver malfunctionig and causing the system to be unable to talk with the HD again?
[01:51] <courrier> I'm gonna check my version first
[01:53] <courrier> Oh actually the version is in the log
[01:53] <courrier> 2.2.1 instead of 2.6.2
[01:53] <courrier> I have very high expectations now :D
[01:54] <OerHeks> :-)
[02:30] <Kazan> hi, i need some help
[02:31] <Guest26856> i do this "sudo update-rc.d -f ondemand remove" and i don't know how to roll back
[02:32] <Guest26856> did*
[02:33] <Guest26856> anyone know what could i do?
[02:33] <Guest26856> i already uninstalled tlp
[02:34] <OerHeks> reinstall tlp, i think, and sudo update-rc.d ondemand disable # would be the correct way
[02:35] <sgian> Hi all..I hope everyone is well...I'm looking for a little help using rsync to pull files from a windows 10 machine to an Ubuntu server
[02:35] <Guest26856> yeah i know now, but i didn't when i did that
[02:36] <OerHeks> i read it is a standard script ..https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Setting_CPU_Governor
[02:36] <Guest26856> i tried this "sudo update-rc.d -f ondemand defaults" but then it says that "update-rc.d: error: unable to read /etc/init.d/ondemand"
[02:38] <OerHeks> jups, you removed the /usr/sbin/update-rc.d/ondemand script
[02:38] <Guest26856> yeah how i restore it?
[02:38] <OerHeks> i am still looking..
[02:39] <Guest26856> i already read that
[02:39] <Guest26856> thank you very much
[02:39] <OerHeks> "As the question says, I issued sudo update-rc.d -f ondemand remove cause that's what an article on configuring TLP says ..."  ouch
[02:40] <Guest26856> yeah same here :c
[02:41] <OerHeks> not really a help https://askubuntu.com/questions/372935/undo-sudo-update-rc-d-f-ondemand-remove
[02:43] <Guest26856> thank you.. so? is a generic script? so i could take it from a live cd?
[02:43] <OerHeks> i think cpufrequtils
[02:45] <Guest26856> thank you, you gave me some light
[02:50] <veegee_> Hi all, quick question about ext4: if I create a device using mdadm, let's say /dev/md0, should I partition it with one partition for mkfs.ext4, or should I use the whole device when I do mkfs.ext4?
[03:37] <ee8e83> Freemasonry and Satanism, book review 8 pt 1, Protocols of Zion, they want a global world government: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ICVFPzitpudS/
[03:37] <OerHeks> !spam | ee8e83
[03:43] <goyimcattlemesse> There IS an occupation government : https://www.bitchute.com/video/U765rBfCyRbW/
[03:45] <OerHeks> !ops | it was so calm last weeks
[03:46] <hggdh> too late
[03:47] <SlidingHorn> hggdh: that was a quick response though...props
[03:47] <OerHeks> sad they did not use same video
[03:48] <mnathani> how can i fix Error in network definition /etc/netplan/static.yaml line 2 column 18: expected mapping  for my netplan config
[03:49] <OerHeks> mnathani, paste the yaml on paste.ubuntu.com please?
[03:49] <mnathani> contents of static.yaml: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yxVTJqpmy8/
[03:51] <OerHeks> if i put it in http://www.yamllint.com/ it does a little optimising, no errors
[03:52] <OerHeks> like what happened here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1033628/netplan-configuration-error-invalid-yaml-did-not-find-expected-key
[03:57] <TJ-> mnathani: "ens32" should be indented relative to "ethernets:"
[04:00] <mnathani> I nuked the file
[04:00] <mnathani> re did it using nano and it seems to have worked
[04:00] <mnathani> didnt like my vim editor maybe
[04:01] <TJ-> you may have mixed spaces and tabs
[04:02] <mnathani> why did ubuntu switch to netplan?
[04:02] <mnathani> and is it like a standard that arch centos and redhat will use eventually?
[04:03] <OerHeks> certain linux distros use it, Debian ofcourse
[04:06] <TJ-> mnathani: because "cloud" -- it's a runtime-only generator for the actual network management tool, Makes it easier to 'orchestrate' containers and virtual machines
[04:07] <mnathani> kvm based clouds?
[04:15] <booob> hello,world
[04:53] <jayjo_> how do I update hugo on ubuntu? It says it's the most recent version when I try apt-get install again but it isn't
[04:54] <TJ-> jayjo_: which ubuntu release?
[04:54] <jayjo_> 18.04 LTS
[04:54] <TJ-> !info hugo bionic
[04:55] <jayjo_> ok, I see. Thanks
[05:43] <lop__> hi
[05:44] <lop__> what about this channel
[05:44] <lop__> hi
[05:45] <lop__> d
[06:02] <Guest42681> Hi
[06:21] <isokee> hello everyone, what's the best way to upgrade ubuntu 16.04 minimal to 18.04?
[06:32] <Rty> I'm trying to run a Tcl script via a bash script but on running the bash script I get a permission denied for each call of the Tcl script
[06:32] <SwedeMike> isokee: is there a problem with just using the regular upgrade path?
[06:32] <SwedeMike> isokee: as in following the instructions how to upgrade between LTS versions?
[06:32] <Rty> Here's a minimal script which reproduces the problem: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WnKZmhRBC9/
[06:32] <ryuo> Rty: did you forget to make it executable?
[06:33] <Rty> 755?
[06:33] <ryuo> yes. the script has to be executable to begin with, and it has to have a shebang as well, if you wish to execute it like that.
[06:33] <ryuo> otherwise you can explicitly invoke the interpreter for.
[06:34] <ryuo> it
[06:34] <Rty> I've done a chmod +x driverScript.sh
[06:34] <Rty> Plus added the shebang too #!/usr/bin/env bash
[06:34] <Rty> Still the same error.
[06:34] <ryuo> Rty: the tcl script.
[06:35] <ryuo> Rty: it needs to be executable as well.
[06:35] <Rty> ryuo: Thanks. Works now!
[06:37] <Rty> ryuo: How does the script know which program to use to run the tcl script? Picks default?
[06:37] <ryuo> Rty: shebang line of the script. the kernel does not recognize file extensions.
[06:38] <Rty> I see. Okay
[06:47] <isokee> hi SwedeMike, thanks for the reply. i'm currenty testing it right now. i'm just wondering if there are better ways to upgrade it?
[06:50] <SwedeMike> isokee: no, you just do "do-release-upgrade" or use the GUI upgrade procedure as per the instructions, I don't know of another recommended way.
[06:50] <isokee> SwedeMike,  ok, thanks. :)
[06:51] <isokee> SwedeMike,  i think my issue atm is that i'm using lubuntu as a de on top of the minimal installation
[06:52] <isokee> SwedeMike,  and i'm thinking that it might cause a problem?
[06:53] <SwedeMike> isokee: I have no idea. If it's all ubuntu packages I'd imagine it should work.
[06:54] <isokee> SwedeMike  ok, thanks again for the reply. appreciate it. :)
[06:54] <SlidingHorn> isokee: Just make sure all packages are updated, remove any that are from PPAs (and remove the PPA from your sources), and make backups of your data just in case.  Then go through the recommended upgrade process
[06:56] <Bags> Hello
[06:56] <Bags> Thanks in advance for all if any help.
[06:56] <isokee> SlidingHorn,  ok, thanks. :)
[06:56] <SlidingHorn> Bags: What do you need help with?
[06:57] <Bags> Looking for a creative solution to a noob problem.
[06:57] <Bags> I've just installed Ubuntu 18 on a HP workstation, getting ready to sell it.
[06:57] <Bags> I've hurt my back so I'm unable to move it.
[06:57] <Bags> The monitor is disconnected, SSH is not enabled.
[06:57] <SlidingHorn> Bags: Ubuntu 18 isn't a release
[06:57] <Bags> VNC is enabled
[06:58] <Bags> I can log into it, but now that there's no display, I cant see anything
[06:58] <isokee> SlidingHorn,  do-release-upgrade wouldn't install the gtk DE right?
[06:58] <Bags> when I connect remotly
[06:58] <SlidingHorn> isokee: it should only upgrade with packages you have
[06:58] <Bags> just a few dots and a strange down arrow symbol
[06:59] <isokee> SlidingHorn: ok, i guess that was my biggest concern atm. thanks again. :)
[06:59] <isokee> *is
[06:59] <Bags> The first time I connected after disconnecting the display it was all ok, but it had downloaded some updates and asked to be restarted so I did that and now it's headless
[06:59] <SlidingHorn> Bags: a couple things - 1. Try not to use "Enter" as punctuation.  It's easier to follow your issue if it's all on one line  2.  Which release are you using? "18" is not a valid release. Ubuntu goes by YY.MM (e.g. 18.04, 18.10)
[06:59] <Bags> I can still connect via VNC but don't see anything meaningful on the screen.
[07:00] <Bags> Oh, ok. Apologies.
[07:00] <Bags> Um...
[07:00] <Bags> Which release? I can't actually remember.
[07:01] <SlidingHorn> Bags: what is the output of   lsb_release -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:01] <user_> тут кто по русски шпрехат
[07:02] <Bags> You see to actually enter that command, I need a terminal. As I'm not getting anything, and SSH is not yet enabled, I can't run a terminal or SSH on the system to enter that command.
[07:02] <SwedeMike> !ru | user_
[07:03] <Bags> How do I direct my responses to a particular user like you guys are doing?
[07:03] <SlidingHorn> Bags: start to type the name and hit tab to autocomplete (in most clients)
[07:03] <SwedeMike> Bags: just type the nick first on the line followed by :, like I did.
[07:04] <Bags> SwedeMike: Thanks.
[07:05] <Bags> SlidingHorn: I found the install USB and it's Ubuntu 18.04.1
[07:05] <SlidingHorn> Bags: so you're able to connect via VNC, but you just can't see anything?  What happens if you connect and hit  Ctrl+Alt+F3   does it take you to a login terminal?
[07:06] <Bags> SlidingHorn: It's taken me to the login terminal for the client computer.
[07:07] <Bags> SlidingHorn: Now I can't get back to the VNC client window...
[07:08] <SlidingHorn> Bags: okay, that's one of 7 TTY terminals.  VNC isn't somethign I'm familiar with, but you can use the TTY to enter any commands (the desktop is usually on TTY 7 - Ctrl+Alt+F7)
[07:08] <SlidingHorn> what is the OS you're using to connect to this machine?
[07:09] <Bags> SlidingHorn: Thanks, that worked. The client is running on a Parallels VM running Ubuntu 14.04
[07:10] <Bags> SlidingHorn: Running on a Mac with Mojave.
[07:12] <Bags> SlidingHorn: I've set the client to capture all keyboard commands but it still takes me to the terminal log in screen for the system running the client and not the machine the client is connecting to.
[07:14] <Bags> SlidingHorn: I’m thinking that if the VNC connection session is all working apart from the display, that I could somehow invoke the terminal (blindly) and type in some commands to enable SSH so that I can then SSH into the system and correctly set up the alternate display output (:1) for the VNC server or something like that... I dunno... I’m clutching at straws here...
[07:17] <SlidingHorn> Bags: Can you not directly connect from the Mac itself?  The VM seems like an unnecessary step
[07:18] <Bags> SlidingHorn: No. Tried that first, but (and I only found this out now) the encryption needs to be disabled for me to log in with anything other than Remmina on Linux.
[07:21] <Bags> SlidingHorn: Tried the standard Mac OS VNC connection, Chrome's VNC client, and Chicken but they all fail with authorisation errors. Remmina worked so that's the only place I can start with at the moment.
[07:24] <odroid> c2
[07:27] <SlidingHorn> Bags: just to clarify and sum up this issue:  18.04 server, 14.04 VM client, black screen when connecting via VNC with just some dots and a down arrow?
[07:28] <Bags> SlidingHorn: Yes. After a restart. Initially when VNC was enabled there was a monitor connected. Now the monitor is disconnected and I can't get it back on there as I’m alone and physically disabled at the moment.
[07:29] <Bags> SlidingHorn: Initially I could connect via Rimmina and see the desktop, but the restart with the monitor gone has now brought about the situation where the server is headless and the VNC session via Rimmina on a 14.04 system shows dots and a down arrow. And a capital letter O.
[07:31] <Bags> SlidingHorn: Sorry, that's Remmina VNC client.
[07:31] <SlidingHorn> Bags: I don't know if it will help me at all, but are you able to take a picture of this and post it to a bin? (like imgbox.com or something?)
[07:33] <frad> a work colleage told and showed me double commander. He uses it to rename bulk data (thousands of files at once, all mixed in the same directory). Would you recommend me another linux only app?
[07:33] <Bags> SlidingHorn: https://imgbox.com/gallery/edit/j8zMsOy0cp/KtaGPgCIiQjFqQsD
[07:35] <ducasse> frad: a gui app for renaming files? gprename
[07:37] <Bags> SlidingHorn: Mate, I think I've wasted enough of your time. You've been so generous in trying to help, but I feel that it's best for all for me to wait until tomorrow and ask someone to come over and move the display back onto the box and I do what I need to do to get this working with a monitor and keyboard.
[07:38] <SlidingHorn> Bags: maybe the "blindly try to get a terminal" option might be worth trying.  If there's a keyboard attached to the server machine, (presumably you would have to login first? password then enter then wait....) then Ctrl+Alt+T ?  From there, sudo apt install openssh-server  (then password, enter)
[07:39] <Bags> SlidingHorn: ok, I'll try that.
[07:40] <SlidingHorn> Bags: at least if that works, you'll be able to connect to it via ssh and make some changes
[07:43] <frad> ducasse, in your experience, is double commander better than gprename?
[07:46] <ducasse> frad: i don't use it (i use spacefm or ranger), but it does a lot more. gprename is good for renaming, though. there's also krename if you don't mind the kde dependencies
[07:48] <frad> ducasse, you mean double commander does a lot more thangprename?
[07:48] <ducasse> frad: it does more than renaming files, yes
[07:48] <linux> ssl-test
[07:48] <frad> gotcha
[07:48] <frad> thanks
[07:48] <frad> ducasse,
[07:49] <ducasse> yw
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: tomreyn updated your bug, check if you can fix the same way?
[07:59] <Bags> SlidingHorn: Tried restarting. (The system was configured to log in automatically to the admin account) Then entering Ctrl+Alt+T and then su (enter) password (enter) then /sbin/shhutdown -r now (enter) but the system did not shut down, so I'm thinking I'm out of options here with this idea.
[08:00] <Bags> SlidingHorn: If it's not shutting down, then it's definitely not taking my keyboard commands and doing things with them like we had hoped.
[08:01] <Bags> SlidingHorn: I also tried what you had suggested, restarted, trying to SSH into it, but it's still refusing the connection.
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> Bags: be carefull with vnc ok, its a security risk these days, better do your work over ssh instead
[08:02] <Bags> lotuspsychje: Thanks lotuspsychje, but I can't use either at this stage, so I’m pretty sure noone else can either.
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> Bags: cant you use one time teamviewer to take over that machine? or is it non-GUI?
[08:04] <Bags> lotuspsychje: The VNC was installed and working and then the monitor was removed and now it has been restarted and headless, but the required preparations for running it headless were not known about until too late.
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> Bags: can you detail your end-goal exactly, volunteers might have other ideas
[08:05] <Bags> lotuspsychje: Now I'm trying to enable SSH in the blind, hoping that even though my VNC connection visual display is clearly gobbdygook due to it being headless, that the keyboard commands are still somehow getting through, thus allowing me to install and enable SSH and use that to do the rest of the preparations to the system that I was trying to do.
[08:06] <ducasse> Bags: can you try logging in to a tty?
[08:06] <Bags> lotuspsychje: The end goal is somehow enabling SSH without a monitor being connected to it. I'm temporarily physically disabled and can't get a monitor connected to it.
[08:07] <Bags> ducasse: Can you please help me to try and do this? What would I have to do?
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> Bags: are you sure ssh server is still running?
[08:08] <ducasse> Bags: press ctrl+alt+f2 or f3, enter usernama and password, then install ssh
[08:08] <Bags> lotuspsychje: No. I'm actually certain that SSH hasn't even been installed yet.
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> oh see what ducasse suggested then
[08:08] <Bags> ducasse: How do I do this without a monitor being connected and without SSH running?
[08:09] <ducasse> Bags: no monitor should be needed, you can type blind
[08:10] <ducasse> Bags: you need to physically be in front of the machine, though
[08:11] <Bags> ducasse: Ok, let me see if I can do that.
[08:20] <JJJollyjim_> Hi all. I'm using an HP laptop-tablet-convertible, which I frequently use lying on its side
[08:21] <JJJollyjim_> I can easily turn off GNOME's screen rotation, but still when I rotate the device on its side the keyboard and trackpad get disabled
[08:21] <JJJollyjim_> This happens from early in the Ubuntu boot screen (but not in grub), so I don't think it's a gnome thing but something happening at a lower level
[08:22] <JJJollyjim_> (I can tell that it's happening at the boot screen because when the keyboard is disabled by rotation its backlight turns off)
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> JJJollyjim_: to debug try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and rotate, see what errors comes out
[08:22] <JJJollyjim_> no output is added when I rotate
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> JJJollyjim_: perhaps look for acpi issues in your syslog/dmesg then
[08:23] <JJJollyjim_> I wouldnt expect any errors, I assume some component is intentionally disabling the keyboard because it thinks I'm using it as a tablet, and doesn't want me to press keys by mistake
[08:25] <Bags> ducasse: Do I need to do anything to start the SSH service once I've entered the commands to install it?
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> JJJollyjim_: is your bios up to date?
[08:25] <ducasse> Bags: no, that is automatic
[08:25] <JJJollyjim_> http://ix.io/1wc4 <-- dmesg | grep -i acpi, don't see anything relevant
[08:25] <JJJollyjim_> lotuspsychje, quite possibly not
[08:26] <JJJollyjim_> again im not sure if there is necessarily anything misbehaving, just making a false assumption about me wanting to use this as a tablet
[08:26] <JJJollyjim_> the keyboard gets turned back on when i rotate upright
[08:26] <Rty> Is there a bash equivalent for something like np.linspace(0,1,11)?
[08:26] <JJJollyjim_> i just want to be able to use its on its side
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> JJJollyjim_: what about your graphics card chipset and driver version, installed correctly?
[08:27] <JJJollyjim_> Rty: not pure bash, but the seq command accepts a step parameter, which gets you close
[08:28] <JJJollyjim_> so seq 0 0.1 1 in this case
[08:30] <JJJollyjim_> lotuspsychje, sorry i don't see how this is a graphics issue... have I explained the question poorly?
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> JJJollyjim_: wrong graphics drivers can influence things
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> JJJollyjim_: im just trying to rule things out for you
[08:31] <JJJollyjim_> sure thanks
[08:31] <Rty> Yeah this works. array=($(seq 0 0.1 1)
[08:31] <JJJollyjim_> im using intel integrated graphics, latest open-source drivers as included in cosmic
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> JJJollyjim_: allright, tnx for checking have you also tested this on LTS?
[08:32] <JJJollyjim_> yes
[08:32] <JJJollyjim_> it persisted as i was upgrading artful->bionic->cosmic today
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> JJJollyjim_: ok, in your case i would go for the latest bios update first, if that doesnt help i would file a new !bug as your issues is pretty specific
[08:33] <JJJollyjim_> thanks
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> JJJollyjim_: feel free to share us the bug # after
[08:33] <Rty> JJJollyjim_: Does this have rounding off errors like in np.arange?
[08:34] <JJJollyjim_> no idea sorry Rty
[08:34] <Rty> I suppose if stop-start is a multiple of step, it would be fine.
[08:34] <Rty> Thanks anyway.
[08:55] <ovalseven8> Question: I generate a new SSH key with "ssh-keygen -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ed25519_key -t ed25519 -N """ and while the fingerprint is different, the saved file is always the same, even if I do it multiple times. What's wrong here?
[08:57] <tomreyn> ovalseven8: how do you test that the saved file is the same?
[08:58] <ovalseven8> tomreyn, cat "/etc/ssh/ssh_host_ed25519_key"
[08:58] <tomreyn> this will only show you one key, to compare you'd need two
[08:59] <ovalseven8> tomreyn, Well, the output is the same as before even when I created the new key
[08:59] <tomreyn> so you're comparing the new file to what you remember from the previous one?
[08:59] <tomreyn> my question is exactly how you compare
[08:59] <ovalseven8> tomreyn, In the bash you see the previous output of the commands, right?
[09:00] <tomreyn> ovalseven8: you see the fingerprint and the visual representation of it
[09:00] <ovalseven8> Yes
[09:01] <tomreyn> but you said those differ anyways
[09:01] <tomreyn> you're saying the key material itself remains the same. so i'm asking how you're comparing the key material between runs.
[09:01] <ovalseven8> tomreyn, Wait a minute
[09:02] <ceskoz99> Hello! There is any good way to install nvidia geforce driver on ubuntu: I have a old 650 ti vga but i dont have the same performance in the same game ubuntu vs win10.
[09:02] <ceskoz99> I'm pretty sure its because the nvidia driver
[09:03] <tomreyn> ceskoz99: the default approach to install the proprietary nvidia driver son ubuntu is "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[09:03] <ceskoz99> Hello! tomreyn! I was here yesterday, talked lot about "chrome browser bug"
[09:04] <ceskoz99> i was on webirc client
[09:04] <tomreyn> this can also be done on gui
[09:04] <tomreyn> ceskoz99: welcome back
[09:04] <ceskoz99> i just want to tell you removed the 18.04.1 LTS ubuntu and replaced with 18.10 and now everything fine
[09:05] <ovalseven8> tomreyn, https://dpaste.de/GChf/raw
[09:05] <tomreyn> ceskoz99: glad you found a solution which works for you.
[09:06] <ovalseven8> Strange... :/
[09:06] <ovalseven8> works
[09:07] <tomreyn> ovalseven8: so things are actually as they should be?
[09:08] <ovalseven8> tomreyn, Exactly. Sorry! The first line and the last line were the same in the private key
[09:09] <tomreyn> glad we solved another miracle. ovalseven8: it's entirely common / expected that the first and last couple of characters of both the public and private key remain the same or similar across different keys.
[09:10] <ovalseven8> tomreyn, What's the reason for that? Sorry.
[09:10] <tomreyn> thats because of the key format and how it stores the same 'meta' information in the same places as part of the key file.
[09:15] <tomreyn> ovalseven8: if you want it detailed https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4253#section-6.6
[09:15] <tomreyn> easier, but much less complete http://blog.oddbit.com/2011/05/08/converting-openssh-public-keys/
[09:26] <ovalseven8> When I do "useradd -m userabc" which password is the default?
[09:28] <geirha> there's no password until you set one. Prefer adduser over useradd for creating users. It will set password as well
[09:29] <ovalseven8> geirha, That means that I cannot login as long as no password is set?
[09:30] <geirha> right
[09:41] <Bags> ducasse: Thanks for you help. All working now. Very much appreciate all the help you very generous and kind folk give us noobs. You're all gems and very good eggs!
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | ducasse
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> Bags: and thank you for the feedback
[09:47] <Bags> lotuspsychje: No need. You guys ROCK! Thanks again to all of you. Linux is a very scary monster to people like me.
[10:06] <zzp> hi!
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> welcome zzp
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> what can we do for you today?
[10:08] <ovalseven8> I get this error: "no matching host key type found. Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss"
[10:08] <ovalseven8> When I want to connect to my server
[10:08] <ovalseven8> That error message is the one from the server
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> ovalseven8: see also the #openssh channel if you like
[10:28] <caroga> hi all!
[10:30] <zzp> hi!
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> welcome caroga
[10:32] <a__pi> I created a repo in localhost with reprepro (unsigned) with 'Origin: localrepo' , added the repo as trusted "deb [ trusted=yes ]..." , added the pinning in
[10:32] <a__pi>                          /etc/apt/preferences , 'Package: *,Pin: origin "localrepo",Pin-Priority: 1001' , made an apt-get update and in apt-cache policy and continue being with
[10:32] <a__pi>                          priority 500. Where could be the problem?
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> use a pastebin a__pi
[10:35] <ovalseven8> When I do "passwd -d user" How can I login then? Only with SSH key?
[10:35] <zzp> how can i make python 3 default in ubuntu 18.04 ?(I mean when i enter python in terminal, i use python3 instead of python 2
[10:37] <zzp> hi <ovalseven8> , passwd -d Make the password of the account blank (it will set the named account passwordless)
[10:38] <a__pi> lotuspsychje: http://rafb.ath.cx/pastes/1wD3JP15.html
[10:38] <ovalseven8> zzp: When I do "su user" without a password I get no access
[10:39] <zzp> you can change to root account and set password to that user
[10:39] <zzp> for example, ubuntu make root account passwordless by default
[10:40] <ovalseven8> zzp, Passwordless != empty password?
[10:40] <zzp> so, when you try to $ su in your terminal, you won't change your account
[10:42] <EriC^^> ovalseven8: making root account passwordless isnt such a good idea!
[10:42] <ovalseven8> zzp, So i cannot login, only with ssh?
[10:42] <ovalseven8> EriC^^, May I ask why?
[10:42] <EriC^^> it needs an explanation?
[10:43] <zzp> https://www.computerhope.com/unix/upasswor.htm
[10:43] <zzp> see this page
[10:43] <EriC^^> by passwordless what do you mean? blank password?
[10:43] <ovalseven8> sudo passwd -d root
[10:43] <zzp> Delete a user's password (make it empty). This option is a quick way to disable logins for an account, without disabling the account itself.
[10:44] <ovalseven8> EriC^^, Yes, it needs an explanation. I have a sudo user.
[10:45] <EriC^^> ovalseven8: if somebody gets access to the pc then without a password he can get root access
[10:46] <ovalseven8> EriC^^, Why can he get root access?
[10:46] <EriC^^> nevermind, i think you meant how to disable, not make it blank as in anyone can get root without password
[10:46] <EriC^^> nevermind
[10:46] <janat08> what does rc.local looks like for systemd with modprobe calls (to reset wifi dongle on startup)?
[10:47] <ovalseven8> EriC^^, Yeah, I meant with "-d". I thought that would be good practice?
[10:50] <janat08> what is this suppose to be in systemd: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w6gQjgv2kS/
[10:50] <EriC^^> ovalseven8: yeah that's a good idea
[11:03] <kab0m> Hi there
[11:03] <kab0m> I just wanted to know if there is a way to NOT save credentials for rdp connections in Remmina...i just want to be ask for the credentials every time i connect...but right now when i dont save username and password for a rdp connection it wont ask for credentials and wont connect
[11:34] <tomreyn> kab0m: you could use freerdp directly
[11:35] <kab0m> tomreyn: does it have a gui?
[11:40] <tomreyn> kab0m: no, does it need one?
[11:40] <tomreyn> there is also rdesktop which does have a gui
[11:40] <kab0m> tomreyn: it would be nice. as i want to have everything in one place. Tahnk you for the hint ;) i will look into it
[13:09] <joy> Jeanice Barcelo Satanic Porn and Sex FYM Conference 4: https://www.bitchute.com/video/JNxOtu2MtTZy/
[13:13] <coconut> first spam i noticed since -r
[13:45] <Vercas> Hello.
[13:46] <Vercas> I've got Ubuntu 18.04 installed on three machines. One desktop and two servers.
[13:46] <Vercas> And my servers always hang when halting. The desktop hangs when halting just ~50% of the time.
[13:46] <Vercas> Are there any known issues related to this?
[13:47] <Vercas> What I see on my server is everything going fine until the caret stops blinking on the screen.
[13:47] <Vercas> servers*
[13:47] <a__pi> what you mean halting? did you press ESC to see the messages at shutdown ?
[13:47] <Vercas> I see the messages all the time on the servers.
[13:48] <Vercas> a__pi: I can do a halt right now and show you what's on the screen when it hangs.
[13:48] <a__pi> press ESC when ubuntu logo appears
[13:49] <Vercas> AFAIK there's no ubuntu logo in the server edition. o.o
[13:50] <a__pi> maybe I installed something :S, but press ESC and see it something appears in the screen
[13:52] <Vercas> a__pi: https://u.vercas.com/snapshot31.png
[13:53] <a__pi> wait a moment
[13:53] <Vercas> Cursor doesn't blink anymore.
[13:53] <a__pi> i think will shutdown
[13:53] <Vercas> I accidentally left it a whole night in this state.
[13:53] <Vercas> The other server (identical model) goes full apeshit when it reaches this point.
[13:53] <Vercas> The fans go to 100% speed.
[13:54] <a__pi> https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#index2h1
[13:54] <a__pi> i think you have to do this
[13:54] <a__pi> to see why it hangs
[13:55] <Vercas> I'll try these.
[13:55] <Vercas> So, in this state it doesn't respond to Control + Alt + Delete.
[13:55] <Vercas> I'll do a reset and try a forced reboot.
[13:56] <Vercas> Debugging via serial port is, luckily, an option for me.
[14:06] <Vercas> a__pi: poweroff -f worked.
[14:07] <a__pi> enable debug shell
[14:07] <a__pi> and try to found the culprit
[14:07] <a__pi> in systemd
[14:10] <Vercas> Will try.
[14:15] <Vercas> a__pi: I think I did a stupid.
[14:15] <Vercas> Using just `poweroff` also shuts it down fine.
[14:15] <Vercas> So the problem must be `halt`...
[14:16] <a__pi> halt it halts only
[14:16] <a__pi> as you seen :D
[14:16] <Vercas> a__pi: I've literally been using halt for a decade now. Never experienced this before.
[14:16] <a__pi> I always used poweroff
[14:17] <Vercas> I've also never had server-grade hardware before...
[14:17] <Vercas> So I suspect it must have something to do with the hardware capabilities.
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:30] <zhang> ?
[14:30] <zhang> it is funny
[14:33] <leonardus> tomreyn, that fix worked for me
[14:41] <chom_> Hello
[14:42] <chom_> Does anyone know if there's any other setting that manages presence of splash screen besides "quiet splash"? I can't seem to get rid of it
[14:49] <Tam> I just installes Ubuntu 18. My laptop has secure boot turned on. I had to type on a password that should have been entered on the next reboot. The message came up but I wasn't sure which  option to choose, so I chose continue
[14:49] <EoflaOE> chom_: Do you mean that you don't want to display splash screen? Or do you want to change splash screen?
[14:50] <Tam> I think that means that 3rd party drivers wouldn't have been installed
[14:50] <Tam> How can I get that mok manager screen back so I can type the password?
[14:51] <Tam> Really the problem I'm trying to solve is just to get 3rd party drivers
[14:53] <chom_> EoflaOE: I don't want splash screen, I want systemd and other messages.
[14:54] <chom_> I tried removing "quiet splash" and "noquiet nosplash" and none worked
[14:54] <EriC^^> did you run update-grub
[14:54] <chom_> Yes
[14:55] <a__pi> remove quiet and splash
[14:55] <chom_> I did
[14:55] <EriC^^> chom_: try editing the entry before booting it so you know it doesnt have quiet splash
[14:59] <leonardus> I have a problem where the sidebar with all of the open applications is displaying on the lock screen
[14:59] <ovalseven8> On my Ubuntu Server the DHCP client listens on 0.0.0.0 interface. Can I keep it this way?
[14:59] <ovalseven8> Or is that a security risk
[15:03] <Tam> Does anyone know how I can install 3rd party drivers if I accidentally missed the mok enrollment screen?
[15:03] <EriC^^> Tam: run the dpkg --reconfigure for the package
[15:03] <leonardus> Tam, install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[15:04] <Tam> Thanks. That's what I've done on my old installation but now I'm using secure boot. Is there any different?
[15:04] <Tam> Difference*
[15:10] <EriC^^> Tam: no idea
[15:10] <ducasse> Tam: run 'sudo mokutil --disable-validation', and you should get the mok screen again
[15:10] <vasanth> i am having trouble starting ubuntu instance in virtualbox - is this the forum i should be reaching to?
[15:11] <ducasse> Tam: if you're not using secure boot you don't need to deal with this
[15:11] <EoflaOE> vasanth: This is Ubuntu support channel, so yes. What happened?
[15:13] <vasanth> i get "VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED(-1908) - the support driver is not installed. On linux, open returned ENOENT
[15:13] <vasanth> i get this when i try to start the vm instance just created
[15:14] <EoflaOE> Is your host (the one that has VirtualBox program and is a physical PC) OS Ubuntu?
[15:14] <vasanth> in dmesg - i get - apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="snap.gnome-system-monitor.gnome-system-monitor"
[15:14] <ioria> chom_, use 'text' instead of  'quiet splash'
[15:15] <vasanth> @EofLaOE - i am on ubuntu 18.04 LTS on my laptop
[15:17] <Tam> Ducasse I am using secure boot
[15:17] <EoflaOE> vasanth: Can you try this: "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup"?
[15:17] <Tam> I've dual booted with Windows so I had to use secure boot. EUFI setup
[15:17] <Tam> Uefi*
[15:18] <leonardus> which package do I install if a program I'm running needs OpenAL? libopenal-dev? libopenal-data? libopenal1?
[15:18] <vasanth> @EoflaOE - i don't have the command in that folder - i get - sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[15:20] <EoflaOE> leonardus: libopenal1 and libopenal-data are necessary packages to run programs that needs OpenAL. libopenal-dev is for build-time.
[15:21] <leonardus> gotcha, thanks
[15:21] <EoflaOE> vasanth: How about "sudo /sbin/vboxconfig"? | leonardus: You're welcome. Let me know if your program runs.
[15:22] <vasanth> @EoflaOE - vboxdrv.sh: failed: modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out why.
[15:22] <vasanth> @EoflaOE - apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="snap.gnome-system-monitor.gnome-system-monitor"
[15:23] <vasanth> @EoflaOE - dmesg gives me the apparmor denied message
[15:23] <EoflaOE> vasanth: Pastebin the full output of dmesg (full, not the apparmor="DENIED"... part) to find out why.
[15:29] <vasanth> @EoflaOE - https://pastebin.com/CzYtZRMX
[15:32] <EoflaOE> vasanth: Not full. Do this command: "dmesg | pastebinit"
[15:35] <ioria> vasanth, that system.monitor spamming is reported as a bug; but i don't think that could cause serious troubles (aparted a huge log)
[15:37] <vasanth> @EoflaOE - http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jrzzmBt5Zm/
[15:40] <vasanth> @ioria - but i am unable to start the vbox ubuntu instance
[15:40] <ioria> vasanth, if you cannot start VB, i'd  take a look at the secureboot options (maybe try to disable it)
[15:41] <ovalseven8> When I install logwatch and configure it to send mails, which email server does it use to send those?
[15:43] <vasanth> @ioria - my laptop hdd is encrypted - if i disable secureboot, will that cause any other issues? i suppose the secureboot option is a bios option.
[15:43] <ioria> vasanth, no relation with encryption (afaik)
[15:44] <vasanth> @ioria - let me reboot and attempt disabling the option
[15:46] <Sven_vB> when I reconnect my trackball, lsusb still detects it as "Bus 002 Device 125: ID 046d:c404 Logitech, Inc. TrackMan Wheel" but it no longer shows up in xinput --list. it worked for weeks w/o reboot so the kernel modules should be ok. any ideas? happens on xenial.
[15:48] <Sven_vB> it also can't move the cursor any more, as expected when it's not in xinput and thus not connected to the Virtual core pointer.
[15:51] <vasanth_> @ioria - disabling secure boot helped - i am able to launch vbox instance. thanks a bunch
[16:03] <vasanth_> @EoflaOE - thanks for your assistance too.
[16:04] <ioria> vasanth, no problem
[16:06] <CoolKid> Hi all
[16:24] <osse> I want to try the proprietary nvidia drivers. I see the following in Software & Updates: https://imgur.com/a/0uwQh4j .  The two first options have some differences in description, not just the version numbers. What is the difference?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> osse, the 390 driver would be best
[16:28] <Piraty> hi people, i found strange behaviour in libreoffice-writer on kubuntu (installed 4 weeks ago, 18.10, full-updated today). in Writer, hovering over the icons in top bar, in nearly all cases the icon flickers and no tooltip is shown. in some cases however, tooltip shows up and no flickering occurs. libreoffice version 6.1.4.2
[16:29] <ioria> osse, this : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1031463/whats-the-difference-between-nvidia-driver-metapackage-and-nvidia-binary-driver   and this :  https://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[16:30] <BluesKaj> osse, if the 390 doesn't work out then the 340 would be your next option, it's an older driver, but it will probly work fine
[16:31] <osse> Thanks
[16:31] <osse> I see that nvidia has even newer drivers available. But I can try this 390 first
[16:35] <BluesKaj> osse, newer drivers aren't listed because they're probly experimental atm
[16:36] <BluesKaj> in ubuntu sources/driver manager that is
[16:39] <BluesKaj> osse, don't use the nvidia site's linux drivers because they'll break after a kernel upgrade
[16:41] <harshal> can any one suggest me how to doenload and install firefox or any browser from the terminal
[16:42] <kk4ewt> apt-get install firefox
[16:43] <harshal> Thanks for replay @kk4ewt
[16:45] <harshal> I get error yesroot
[16:46] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install firefox
[16:47] <osse> BluesKaj: ah, do drivers need some customization per kernel?
[16:47] <harshal> I got this error:  E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[16:47] <harshal> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[16:48] <kk4ewt> harshal,  see BluesKaj  command above
[16:49] <leftyfb> harshal: firefox comes with all supported versions of ubuntu
[16:49] <harshal> Okae @kk4ewt
[16:50] <harshal> I dont remember my password even. How to get it?
[16:50] <leftyfb> harshal: you are probably better off installing ubuntu from scratch at this point
[16:52] <harshal> Thanks leftyfb, is there any other way to get it?
[16:52] <leftyfb> harshal: what version of ubuntu?
[16:53] <harshal> 16.04
[16:53] <leftyfb> harshal: when did you install it?
[16:54] <harshal> before few months dont remember exectly
[16:55] <leftyfb> harshal: firefox should already be installed. Why do you think you need to install it?
[16:55] <harshal> leftyfb: it is install but does not start, gives error
[16:55] <leftyfb> harshal: what error?
[16:56] <harshal> leftfb: Firefox had a problem and crashed.
[16:56] <harshal> To help us diagnose and fix the problem, you can send us a crash report.
[16:56] <leftyfb> harshal: run this in a terminal: mv ~/.mozilla mozilla
[16:57] <leftyfb> harshal: then try opening firefox again
[16:58] <harshal> leftfb: Okay
[16:59] <harshal> leftfb: it give this error:    harshal@harshal-desktop:~$ mv ~/.mozilla mozilla
[16:59] <harshal> mv: cannot stat '/home/harshal/.mozilla': No such file or directory
[17:00] <leftyfb> harshal: I would reinstall ubuntu, preferably Ubuntu 18.04 at this point
[17:01] <BluesKaj> or use chrome
[17:01] <harshal> leftfb: Okay i will try..Thanks for support
[17:02] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: possible problems with dpkg and forgot password. It's just quicker to reinstall ubuntu to get to a clean state at this point
[17:02] <harshal> BlueKaj: is there any way to download and install Chrome with terminal
[17:02] <ducasse> harshal: you'll need your password
[17:03] <harshal> lefyfb: I am trying that only if i can get my password.
[17:03] <ducasse> !password | harshal
[17:03] <ioria> harshal, why don't you reboot in Recovery and add a new user ?
[17:03] <harshal> leftfb: elese i have to reinstall it
[17:03] <leftyfb> the fact that firefox opens with an error and there's no local prefs causing it, points to bigger problems. And again, since we're going to be booting a live cd/usb to reset the password anyway, it's just quick to reinstall ubuntu
[17:04] <bumbar> i have an ssd mounted as "mount.ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/me/samsung -o rw,nosuid,nodev,big_writes,uid=1000,gid=1000" but it's only doing up to 50 MB/s writes according to iotop
[17:04] <bumbar> am i missing something to enable more speed?
[17:06] <osse> Last time I had to blacklist nouveau. So far this is looking good :)
[17:12] <chom_> Where should I make changes if grub-update doesn't apply removing 'quiet splash' setting? Grub entry still has it
[17:13] <BluesKaj> osse, installing the default proprietary driver disables nouveau afaik
[17:16] <osse> BluesKaj: that sounds entirely reasonable. Regardless, last time I tried this driver I had to manually blacklist it. But that was several months ago, and I didn't have to do that this time so I'm happy :-)
[17:16] <BluesKaj> osse, good :-)
[17:23] <BluesKaj> chom_, did you try in /etc/default/grub?
[17:29] <chom_> BluesKaj: Yes, I removed it from there, ran update-grub and if I edit my Ubuntu entry before booting it still has 'quiet splash'
[17:31] <BluesKaj> what was the output of sudo update-grub ...was there any or did forget to save the file after editing
[17:32] <BluesKaj> did you forget rather
[17:32] <dnsuser> салют
[17:33] <dnsuser> hi
[17:34] <chom_> Basically something in lines "Found theme, found linux image, found initrd image, found Windows, found Kali, found Arch, found linux image, found initrd, found windows, found kali, found arch, adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration"
[17:34] <chom_> and done
[17:34] <parapan> hi there folks; I ended up with a messed upgrade from ubuntu server 16.04 to 18.01 ...error is sub-process dpkg returned an error code 1
[17:34] <dnsuser> здарова гомики
[17:35] <Peyam> do you people know any good project management tool for linux that cost 0
[17:36] <chom_> And no, I did save the file each time, vim wouldn't let me quit without explicitly discarding changes
[17:36] <parapan> sudo dpkg --configure -a gives a bunch of software packages which have unmet dependencies .....first being python3-apt; dependency 1 is gir1.2-pango-1.0 but trying to manually install this tells me there is no such package
[17:37] <BluesKaj> chom_, just change it in a text editor
[17:37] <chom_> BluesKaj: Vim is a text editor
[17:38] <BluesKaj> it's a terminal type editor is it not?
[17:38] <chom_> BluesKaj: It is
[17:38] <Peyam> what is gem install ?
[17:38] <Peyam> what kind of command is that? 'gem install taskjuggler'
[17:38] <BluesKaj> no need to use vim afaik
[17:39] <chom_> BluesKaj: I don't think there would be any difference if I used gedit or anything different
[17:40] <tomreyn> Peyam: https://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-project/?license=free&platform=linux https://www.osalt.com/project
[17:40] <margaritamike> Is there an easy way to install mit-scheme 9.2 in ubuntu?
[17:41] <margaritamike> My default version is 9.1.1.
[17:41] <leftyfb> !latest | margaritamike
[17:42]  * BluesKaj shrugs, a text editor should be less restrictive than saving and exiting from vim, but i don't use it so perhaps I'm mistaken
[17:42] <margaritamike> :<
[17:44] <chom_> BluesKaj: I don't think choice of thext editor matters here
[17:46] <BluesKaj> chom_, are you running a wm
[17:47] <BluesKaj> like i3 or some such
[17:47] <chom_> BluesKaj: Yes, i3
[17:49] <BluesKaj> ok, just wondering whether that makes some kind of difference, but that's just a guess ;-)
[17:51] <chom_> BluesKaj: I doubt it. I'd rather say that it's because I have 2 other linux systems but I doubt it too.
[17:52] <BluesKaj> right
[17:52] <parapan> hi there folks; I ended up with a messed upgrade from ubuntu server 16.04 to 18.01 ...error is sub-process dpkg returned an error code 1; sudo dpkg --configure -a gives a bunch of software packages which have unmet dependencies .....first being python3-apt; dependency 1 is gir1.2-pango-1.0 but trying to manually install this tells me there is no such package
[17:52] <chom_> Another problem I have is that my laptop hangs at poweroff/reboot if I did 'sudo pm-hibernate' previously (booted from hibernation)
[17:53] <BluesKaj> parapan, do you mean 18.10 or 18.04?
[17:55] <parapan> BluesKaj: hmmm ...not quite sure went from 16.04 to 18.something didn-t noticed; but after reboot it said that a lot of packages for 18.04 could be updates ....so I've tried doing so ....but there are a lot of missing dependencies ...
[17:56] <namik> hi
[17:56] <BluesKaj> parapan, so you were doing an LTS upgrade from 16,04 to 18.04 LTS , was this in your package manager or the terminal?
[17:56] <chom_> parapan: what does cat /etc/issue say?
[17:56] <parapan> BluesKaj: lsb_release -a gives Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[17:57] <q9> Why did sagemath-8.4 go missing from the repo 2 days ago?
[17:57] <parapan> BluesKaj: only terminal
[17:57] <BluesKaj> parapan, did you update and upgrade your packages on 16.04 before upgrading to 18,04?
[17:58] <ioria> parapan, the whole error logmight help
[17:58] <parapan> BluesKaj: yes, all the way; it wouldn't let me go with dist-upgrade unless updating 16.04 to date . . .
[17:58] <soapee01> Can anyone help with raid1 performance? I recently installed kubuntu 18.04 on a faster machine and added a raid1 array for home (that I used on 14.04). Write speed on this raid array (copying from the ssd for /) was measured at 14.3MB/s with dd.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> dist-upgrade?
[17:59] <ducasse> parapan: how did you upgrade to 18.04?
[17:59] <parapan> ioria: I'm on the laptop and ssh doesn't work on the server ...it will be a lot to copy manually . . .. :D
[17:59] <ioria> parapan, what cmd exactly ... do-release-upgrade ?
[18:01] <ioria> parapan, i mean, what was the command you ran in order to upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 ?
[18:01] <parapan> ioria: BluesKaj ducasse : yes, do-release-upgrade; reported all went fine except some errors; tried the restart and didn't let me ( error saying that START and STOP commands are conflicting into the configuration of  sysctrl ....I forced the restart ...and that's it
[18:01] <compdoc> soapee01, use the disks app to benchmark
[18:02] <murthy> BluesKaj: Good evening
[18:02] <ioria> parapan, and you get stuck before the login screen ?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> hi murthy
[18:03] <soapee01> compdoc you mean the dos app? I'm not sure if there is one for these drives (they are WD Green, so not perfect for this application). Not sure if those are destructive against data though. Have to check that out.
[18:03] <murthy> BluesKaj: are you testing kde 5.15 beta?
[18:04] <parapan> ioria: nope, when loading ubuntu is reporting an error to dpkg package ( and nothing else as I see ) , I can login fine , I sudo apt-get update and is reading the lists ( all are in RO server ), but when trying to upgrade ....it doesn't work
[18:05] <ioria> parapan, you can login or not ?
[18:05] <tomreyn> soapee01: check partition alignment using parted align-check
[18:05] <parapan> ioria: yes, I can login to server
[18:06] <q9> Is it possible to report a bug via website?
[18:06] <ioria> parapan, sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:07] <tomreyn> soapee01: also tell us more about the raid you built there, show mdadm output if software raid, or equivalent info for hardware raid.
[18:07] <BluesKaj> murthy, no, I'm on kde-plasma 5.14.5
[18:08] <parapan> ioria: warning apt does not have a stable CLI interface; E: invalid operation full-update . . ..
[18:08] <ioria> parapan, sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:08] <ioria> upgrade != update
[18:09] <parapan> ioria: sorry -> e: unmet dependencies try using -f
[18:09] <ioria> parapan, the url , please
[18:10] <soapee01> Ouch: when I ran hdparm on one of the drives, I saw a delay. Maybe I have an issue with a drive or cable (this was moved to a new machine). https://pastebin.com/pi6btRvC
[18:10] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/jlnb
[18:12] <ioria> parapan, some pkgs hve not been upgraded, are still xenial
[18:12] <chom_> Does anyone know what could be the culprit if I my computer hangs at poweroff after booting up from pm-hibernation? If I don't pm-hibernate, it shuts down without problems
[18:13] <parapan> ioria: correct ! sources.list are reporting xenial all the way; what can I do ?
[18:13] <ioria> parapan,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:14] <murthy> BluesKaj: No, I mean are you testing the beta in a virtual machine or contributing?
[18:15] <BluesKaj> murthy, no, are you?
[18:15] <murthy> BluesKaj: yes
[18:15] <parapan> ioria: no such file or directory . . ..
[18:15] <ioria> parapan,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:16] <BluesKaj> murthy, I'm testing the whole 19.04 OS mostly with default packages
[18:17] <murthy> BluesKaj: kubuntu?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> yup
[18:18] <parapan> ioria: sorry, I'm stupid ...termbin.com/b0t5
[18:18] <tomreyn> soapee01: anything in dmesg about the delay?
[18:19] <parapan> ioria: I've renamed to sources.list.old
[18:19] <q9> quit
[18:19] <parapan> ioria: in order to create another ....
[18:20] <ioria> parapan,  that is your sources.list or .old ? i need sources.list
[18:20] <soapee01> tomreyn: nothing notable
[18:20] <soapee01> tomreyn and nothing but temp changes in syslog
[18:21] <tomreyn> soapee01: and did you check alignment?
[18:21] <soapee01> tomreyn I was googling that
[18:21] <parapan> ioria: lemme check ..I swear to God 20 minutes ago when I was opening the file it was xenial all over !!!!
[18:22] <tomreyn> soapee01: sudo parted /dev/sda align-check opt 1; sudo parted /dev/sdb align-check opt 1
[18:22] <tomreyn> soapee01: should return 2x "1 aligned"
[18:22] <parapan> ioria: it is the .old file; the sources.list is empty now
[18:23] <soapee01> tomreyn returns not aligned
[18:23] <tomreyn> soapee01: i'm good at guessing aint i
[18:24] <parapan> ioria: should I remove the .old and restore to that content ?
[18:24] <ioria> parapan,  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list    and put in there this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cnKFWFDSdV/
[18:25] <soapee01> tomreyn nice, still wondering why this raid array hasn't been suffering for the last few years
[18:25] <tomreyn> soapee01: also these are 5400 rpm drives
[18:25] <tomreyn> soapee01: didnt you say you created it just recently?
[18:26] <tomreyn> "...and added a raid1 array for home (that I used on 14.04)" - so I guess you were saying you reassembled it on 18.04, not created it there.
[18:26] <soapee01> tomreyn correct
[18:27] <soapee01> and no, these are 7200 rpm drives.
[18:27] <tomreyn> soapee01: well, you'll have to redo it anyways.
[18:29] <Peyam> that gnome planner is buggy as fuck
[18:31] <ioria> parapan,  then  sudo apt update and paste again   sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:33] <tomreyn> soapee01: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Western_Digital_Caviar_Green_2_TB,_WD20EARX_(00PASB0) states 5400rpm. but i can't find official specs.
[18:33] <soapee01> tomreyn well I guess I need to rsync everything accross and rebuild
[18:33] <tomreyn> soapee01: have you run smart checks against them?
[18:34] <soapee01> tomreyn yes, short testts pass
[18:35] <tomreyn> soapee01: and the other values looked ok? Reallocated_Sector_Ct raw values were 0?
[18:35] <edarfoc> hi guys
[18:36] <edarfoc> is it allowed to link to a launchpad bug report here to see if anyone can help?
[18:37] <soapee01> tomreyn: looks like 7200rpm to me, but probably slows depending on load. I know it parks heads more often. Would rather use a WD RED PRO drive, but funds aren't available for that atm. https://support.wdc.com/knowledgebase/answer.aspx?ID=3892 http://products.wdc.com/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-701229.pdf
[18:37] <tomreyn> edarfoc: sure, just post the link or "bug <bugnumber>"
[18:37] <parapan> ioria: should I try first the normal upgrade ?
[18:37] <ioria> parapan,  then  sudo apt update and paste again   sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:38] <edarfoc> tomreyn: thx!
[18:38] <edarfoc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1592177
[18:38] <parapan> ioria: termbin/8sb0
[18:39] <soapee01> tomreyn, I'd been wanting to change from xfs to ext4 anyhow. I know that can be done in place, but rsync to another drive rebuild md/lvm/mkfs is safer anyhow.
[18:39] <edarfoc> see the attached screencast
[18:39] <edarfoc> there seems to be a proposed solution
[18:39] <soapee01> tomreyn: thanks for the advice. i'll try a rebuild and see hwo it goes.
[18:39] <tomreyn> soapee01: the write speed you reported can't just be due to rpm anyways. i assume it'll be fine after you did the partitions properly.
[18:39] <ioria> parapan,  broken, try again and paste the 'full' url
[18:40] <edarfoc> but it hasn't attracted the attention of anyone which can make a decision on fixing it
[18:40] <tomreyn> soapee01: yeah good luck there.
[18:40] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/8sb0
[18:40] <ioria> parapan,  sudo apt-get -f install
[18:42] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/6lt7
[18:42] <tomreyn> edarfoc: i'm not surprised. upgrading the graphical desktop within a release is not supported.
[18:42] <tomreyn> !latest | edarfoc
[18:42] <ioria> parapan,  say 'yes'
[18:43] <tomreyn> edarfoc: consider upgrading to 18.04 if you'd still like a newer gnome.
[18:43] <edarfoc> tomreyn: what worries me most is that it was first reported in 2016 and it is still present, even in cosmic
[18:43] <edarfoc> I'd just love to see it solved in Disco, or at least before 20.04
[18:44] <parapan> ioria: I did ....errors were encountered while processing: systemd ..E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:44] <tomreyn> edarfoc: sorry, looks like i didnt read enough of it, so it affectes unmodified releases as well
[18:44] <ioria> parapan,  paste them,please
[18:45] <edarfoc> tomreyn: unmodified?
[18:46] <namho> Hello - I am on Kubuntu 18.10, zsh, Konsole, and when I use tmux, none of my keyshortcuts (like ctrl + a) seem to work except ctrl + c and d. I've tried setting set-option -g xterm-keys on, but that does not seem to help
[18:46] <tomreyn> edarfoc: well the first post is about "upgraded gnome"
[18:46] <parapan> ioria: how to do that ? are like 15 lines which I cannot copy by hand ...
[18:47] <ioria> parapan,  try     sudo apt-get -f install  -y | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:47] <tomreyn> edarfoc: in case you are Fernando, please note that attaching said screencast does not seemto have worked
[18:47] <edarfoc> tomreyn: oops
[18:48] <edarfoc> tomreyn: it works for me
[18:48] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/m4ej - and after that, the line I've written in the chat ...with dpkg . . .
[18:48] <edarfoc> tomreyn: AFAIK the bug affects all releases with the gtk+3 file chooser
[18:49] <tomreyn> edarfoc: and apparently there is upstream activity, or was just 6 days ago
[18:50] <ioria> parapan,  apt-cache policy systemd | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:51] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/fg4c
[18:51] <tomreyn> edarfoc: fwiw, i've seen the same bug and keep mumbling about QA whenever it happens.
[18:51] <edarfoc> tomreyn: the upstream bug was closed last year, since it's due to the mentioned Ubuntu patch
[18:52] <edarfoc> tomreyn: good to see I'm not the only one interested in getting this fixed!
[18:52] <edarfoc> tomreyn: what to you think I could do to help this to get solved?
[18:52] <tomreyn> edarfoc: i'm referring to the upstream bug report referred to in the first post of the ubuntu bug you pointed to. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1572
[18:53] <tomreyn> it's open, and young
[18:54] <chom_> namho: do they work without tmux? do they work if you use another terminal emulator?
[18:55] <edarfoc> tomreyn: maybe I posted the wrong link, that one is a duplicate of the following.
[18:56] <edarfoc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1592177
[18:57] <edarfoc> tomreyn: there's an older bug report where this was closed for the reason I said. Type-ahead is not present upstream since many years ago.
[18:57] <parapan> ioria: should I try a reboot ?
[18:58] <tomreyn> edarfoc: ubuntu bug 1592177 is the bug report you posted here initially, and the one i was looking at.
[18:58] <tomreyn> edarfoc: got bad internet?
[18:58] <ioria> parapan, sy, disconnected
[18:59] <parapan> ioria: np should I try a reboot ?
[18:59] <ioria> parapan, i don't think so; you have systemd error
[19:00] <parapan> ioria: it tells me the same things that some packages have unmet dependencies ....should we look for the packages by hand ?
[19:01] <edarfoc> tomreyn: I think it's just my lack of familiarity with launchpad
[19:02] <edarfoc> tomreyn: anyway, somewhere else therein you have the link to the old upstream bug
[19:02] <edarfoc> tomreyn: I'll link to it in the new upstream bug so that it can be closed.
[19:05] <tomreyn> edarfoc: in the header of the ubuntu bug there is a reference to upstream *gtk* bug report https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767736 - which is old.
[19:06] <edarfoc> tomreyn: this
[19:07] <tomreyn> edarfoc: so, yes, it seem to have some loose ends, cleaning up may help. i don't think there is much you can do at this point to increase likelyness that soemone will take on it, though.
[19:08] <ioria> parapan, your systemd policy does not look correct to me
[19:08] <parapan> ioria: so how do I correct it ?
[19:09] <edarfoc> tomreyn: what's a better moment? when we're closed to the next release?
[19:09] <tomreyn> edarfoc: you could maybe ask in #ubuntu-desktop during uk business hours whether they consider it relevant, fell like it should get higher prio. but that's about it, i guess.
[19:09] <ioria> parapan, can you run without errors : sudo apt autoremove --purge
[19:09] <tomreyn> we *are* close to the next release, and too close to get changes in
[19:10] <namho> chom_, yeah it works without tmux and it doesn't help with any other terminals, including virtual terminal.
[19:10] <edarfoc> tomreyn: thanks, sorry for so many questions, I haven't used ubuntu that much, I used to be a fedora user
[19:10] <namho> I think I found the culprit, though - it appears like there's something in my zsh config that might be doing it
[19:10] <parapan> ioria: nope, the same error following packages have unmet dependencies ...
[19:10] <tomreyn> edarfoc: oh thats fine, i dont mind at all,we're here to support.
[19:10] <namho> bash and an empty zsh config works - so going over this line by line
[19:11] <ioria> parapan, your current kernel ? uname -r
[19:12] <parapan> ioria: 4.4.0.-141-gneric
[19:13] <ioria> parapan,  dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:14] <parapan> ioria: nc: getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
[19:14] <namho> chom_, it was this setting in my zsh that was causing the issue: export EDITOR=nvim.... ɿ(｡･ɜ･)ɾ no clue why that would mess that up
[19:15] <ioria> parapan,  dpkg -l | grep linux-image-4.15  (and paste the output here)
[19:16] <parapan> ioria: there is no output
[19:17] <ioria> parapan,  so you don't have the bionic kernel installed
[19:17] <parapan> ioria: how is this possible ?
[19:18] <ioria> parapan,  paste  ls /boot
[19:18] <parapan> ioria: I guess compiling from sources will be a pain in the *ss ?
[19:18] <chom_> namho: How did you figure that out?
[19:18] <ioria> parapan,  probably the do-release-upgrade aborted very badly
[19:19] <ioria> parapan,  paste  ls /boot to confirm
[19:19] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/ql0r
[19:19] <parapan> there is no 4.15 ....
[19:21] <ioria> parapan,  cat /etc/issue
[19:21] <parapan> ioria: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS \n \l
[19:22] <ioria> parapan,  try to install the kernel, but probably you'll get the same error;  sudo apt install linux-generic
[19:23] <parapan> ioria: same error related to missing dependencies . . .
[19:24] <ioria> parapan,  try again sudo dpkg --configure -a    (after that you need to install the kernel manually)
[19:26] <parapan> ioria: it lists all packages with errors ....like 10 of them . . .
[19:26] <parapan> ioria: and I never installed the kernel manually ...
[19:27] <parapan> ioria: I guess is a painfull process ....
[19:27] <ioria> parapan,  ^ not even sure it could help
[19:27] <ioria> parapan,  from mainline, no, just 3 packages to install with  dpkg -i
[19:27] <parapan> ioria: at this point you would advice to erase all and start fresh ?
[19:28] <ioria> parapan,  sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoclean
[19:29] <parapan> ioria: done
[19:29] <parapan> ioria: no errors
[19:29] <ioria> parapan,  sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:30] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/3uap
[19:31] <ioria> parapan,  891 packages can be upgraded ?  it tells to me that the do-release-upgrade to bionic nener started
[19:31] <ioria> *never
[19:31] <parapan> ioria: sounded strage to me too, but, what should I say ?
[19:32] <ioria> parapan,  try again  sudo apt full-upgrade    and after sudo apt-get install -f
[19:33] <BluesKaj> was LTS only turned off?
[19:34] <parapan> ioria: almost the same , now the systemdE: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code 1
[19:35] <parapan> ioria: I think it is badly damaged ....
[19:35] <ioria> parapan,  do you have backups ?
[19:37] <parapan> ioria: nope ....I ca do them ....strangely, the web server is working, the printserver too ...
[19:37] <ioria> parapan,  if not do it; after you can try to remove/install pks manually
[19:37] <OerHeks> parapan, is this bare metal or AWS? abi-4.4.0-139-generic
[19:37] <ioria> unless someone wants to jump in it
[19:38] <parapan> OerHeks: didn't get the terms bro . . . don't know how to answer ...
[19:39] <parapan> ioria: thanks for trying man ! I think it won't get solved today ....gotta figure out what I need from the server files and let it go . . . .
[19:39] <ioria> parapan,  as you wish
[19:40] <parapan> ioria: I think it will be much more consuming ...
[19:40] <parapan> ioria: everything tried so far gives the same issue . . ..
[19:40] <ioria> parapan,  can you paste  ps -A | head -2
[19:41] <ioria> parapan,  ps -A | head -2     please
[19:41] <parapan> ioria: just a sec I've tried a restart ...
[19:41] <ioria> parapan,  not a good idea
[19:43] <parapan> PID TTY -> TIME CMD / 1 ? 00:00:01 systemd
[19:44] <parapan> ioria: there are 4 FAILED lines when reboot ...all of them related to unable to create virtual smth ..on the dev .......and other virtual files and directories . . .
[19:46] <ioria> parapan,  apt-cache policy apt | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:47] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/20gla
[19:48] <OerHeks> that apt 1.6.6 is held back in those  872 not upgraded i guess
[19:48] <ioria> parapan,  apt-cache policy systemd | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:50] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/y14e
[19:53] <ioria> parapan,  dpkg -l systemd | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:54] <OerHeks> maybe his system has a filesystem error and is RO, so updates get wonky?
[19:54] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/0yup
[19:55] <ioria> parapan,  can you  run  'touch filename'
[19:56] <parapan> ioria: how  ? simply executed gives no output
[19:56] <OerHeks> oke, then it is not RO
[19:56] <ioria> parapan,  ls filename
[19:56] <OerHeks> no error = oke
[19:57] <parapan> ioria: filename
[19:57] <whoami_> hello what's up with you
[19:59] <ioria> parapan, dod you have ppa installed ? ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:01] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/lrk6y
[20:01] <OerHeks> sudo dpkg --configure -a 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999	
[20:01] <OerHeks> and run apt install -f after that
[20:02] <OerHeks> then you should be able to dist-upgrade
[20:02] <ioria> OerHeks, already tried
[20:02] <ioria> parapan, sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/*
[20:03] <parapan> OerHeks: doesn't give an http . . .
[20:03] <parapan> ioria: done
[20:04] <ioria> parapan, sudo apt update
[20:05] <parapan> ioria: 891 packages can be upgraded
[20:05] <ioria> parapan, sudo apt install systemd -y
[20:06] <parapan> ioria: same error ...the following packages have unmet dependencies . . .
[20:06] <parapan> ioria: try apt-get -f install to correct these . . ..
[20:06] <namho> chom_, I tested bash and zsh without any configs, both worked. So I commented out everything in my zshrc and went through them line by line until I found the one that was causing the problem.
[20:07] <namho> really bizarre, for sure.
[20:08] <ioria> parapan, sudo apt-get -f install | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:09] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/q9to
[20:11] <ioria> parapan, sorry,  sudo apt-get -f install -y | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:11] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/hm7b
[20:12] <OerHeks> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2406453 "Well. Problem is the root folder has user as an owner" ???
[20:12] <OerHeks> stat -c "%U %G" /
[20:13] <OerHeks> root root ... or..
[20:15] <parapan> OerHeks: admin root if you asked me . . ..
[20:15] <ioria> parapan, sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/systemd.postinst
[20:16] <parapan> ioria: done
[20:16] <ioria> parapan, sudo apt-get install -f -y
[20:16] <parapan> ioria: no error
[20:17] <parapan> ioria: jesus ...it's doing smth different ....
[20:17] <ioria> parapan, ok
[20:17] <parapan> ioria: unpacking things and processing ...
[20:17] <ioria> parapan, wait a bit (a long bit)
[20:18] <parapan> ioria: if it;s going to work, maybe you'll be so kind to tell me in english what the problem was ....:D
[20:18] <parapan> ioria: done
[20:18] <ioria> parapan, sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:19] <parapan> ioria: warning some configuration files could not be opened ...
[20:19] <parapan> ioria: Y-haaaa !
[20:19] <ioria> parapan, and ?
[20:19] <parapan> ioria: we're back in busness ..downloading a lot of packages ....
[20:19] <ioria> parapan, ok
[20:20] <OerHeks> :-)
[20:20] <parapan> ioria: keeping the fingers crossed here ....:D
[20:20] <ioria> parapan, keep in mind that by now you're upgrading your suppodsed xenial box to bionic in a manner not very canonical
[20:21] <ioria> *supposed
[20:21] <parapan> ioria: ok, better that broken man ...better than nothing .....:D
[20:21] <ioria> parapan, fine
[20:22] <parapan> ioria: it will take a while .....5% done
[20:22] <ioria> parapan, as i saoid, a long bit
[20:22] <parapan> ioria: I have no problem ~ don't know about your schedule tough ...
[20:22] <ioria> hehehehe
[20:23] <AlexMax> Sorry to repeat.
[20:23] <AlexMax> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04
[20:23] <AlexMax> And I'm having an incredibly bizarre problem with my mouse.
[20:23] <AlexMax> and it's driving me up the wall.
[20:24] <AlexMax> Sometimes, when I use the scroll wheel, the first 'click' of the scroll wheel will cause my currently selected window to scroll down a ton first.
[20:25] <compdoc> and 2nd click stops it?
[20:25] <AlexMax> Well, I'm not actually clicking on the scroll wheel.  In other words, it's not a middle click.
[20:25] <AlexMax> "Click" of the scroll wheel means rotating it by one tic
[20:26] <compdoc> oh
[20:26] <AlexMax> But yeah, sometimes when i rotate it by one tic, either direction, I get tons of 'scroll down'.
[20:26] <AlexMax> But then the tics immediately following it will be fine and only scroll it a little bit.
[20:27] <AlexMax> And there's no rhyme or reason to it.
[20:27] <AlexMax> Although usually I notice it after I do an alt-tab
[20:28] <AlexMax> but if I try to alt-tab back and forth to attempt to force it to be wonky, it works fine.
[20:29] <compdoc> is it an old mouse?
[20:29] <AlexMax> Not particularly.  More importantly, this does not happen in Windows.
[20:29] <AlexMax> I dual boot and I've never once experienced it in windows, so it's not a hardware problem.
[20:32] <qwebirc32915> Hello, lads! I have very annoying problem. From time to time, Ubuntu's topbar disappears!
[20:34] <ioria> qwebirc32915, maybe some details about your sys, and extensions installed ....
[20:35] <AlexMax> I'm using a desktop machine, built it myself.  No extensions that I know of - I'm using Vanilla LTS 18.04
[20:35] <AlexMax> Intel
[20:39] <parapan> ioria: errors were encountered while processing /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-rMg4Zk/581-screen_4.6.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:40] <parapan> ioria: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code 1
[20:41] <parapan> ioria: what else ?
[20:43] <ioria> parapan, remove screen ; sudo apt purge screen
[20:45] <parapan> ioria: in progress . . . . .
[20:56] <parapan> ioria: done
[20:57] <ioria> parapan, dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:57] <parapan> ioria: again, some errors were encountered when processing /usr/bin/dpkg
[20:57] <ioria> parapan, about what ?
[20:58] <parapan> ioria: that returned an error code 1
[20:58] <ioria> parapan, about what pkg ?
[20:58] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/68k5
[20:59] <fallenour> o?
[20:59] <parapan> ioria: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code 1
[21:00] <fallenour> Has anyone had issues with the new 18.04 LTS builds? I just did a full new deployment, and im having issues with snap. ALl of the snap instances deployed to exactly 100% install space for the /dev/loop* space that they carved for themselves, but now they cant even complete a docker container list command due to lack of space. Any ideas here?
[21:00] <fallenour> The space availale is in the TB range, so I know at the least its not an available total drive space.
[21:01] <ioria> parapan, maybe ia'm no clear; that error is related to a pkg ... what pkg ?
[21:01] <leftyfb> fallenour: snaps will show as using 100% of the loop mount, that's how they work
[21:02] <ioria> parapan, btw, your bionic kernel is 'it  linux-image-4.15.0-43-generic '  t = triggers-pending (package has been triggered)
[21:03] <fallenour> leftyfb: ok. The issue is though I cant do anything because I keep getting: "E: Write Error - write (28: No space left on device)
[21:03] <parapan> ioria: there is no other info ...only that some errors were encountered while processing /usr/bin/dpkg .....that's the full message
[21:03] <fallenour> leftyfb: I also cant finish the installs on anything in those spaces, for each snap item.
[21:03] <parapan> ioria: I saw that now, last row
[21:03] <fallenour> leftyfb: Ive never had this issue before.
[21:03] <parapan> ioria: what's next ...?
[21:03] <ioria> parapan, sudo apt full-upgrade -y | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:04] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/6lq5
[21:05] <ioria> parapan, and ?
[21:06] <parapan> ioria:  a lot of errors: E: write error - write (32: Broken pipe)
[21:06] <canurabus> Hi all. I installed Ubuntu on an external hard drive on a machine that has Windows 10 installed on its primary hard drive. When I boot into Ubuntu, I can't access my Windows 10 hard drive. Does anyone know how I can mount it?
[21:06] <ioria> parapan, can i see those erors ?
[21:07] <parapan> ioria: gve th command without termbin ...dpkg:error processing package rsyslog
[21:08] <parapan> ioria: installed rsyslog package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[21:09] <ioria> parapan, sduo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/rsyslog.postinst
[21:09] <ioria> parapan, sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/rsyslog.postinst
[21:11] <leftyfb> fallenour: maybe try #snappy?
[21:12] <leftyfb> fallenour: I have no issue installing snaps on 18.04
[21:12] <parapan> ioria: done
[21:12] <ioria> parapan, sudomapt full-upgrade
[21:12] <ioria> parapan, sudo apt full-upgrade
[21:13] <parapan> ioria: done
[21:13] <ioria> parapan, and ?
[21:13] <fallenour> leftyfb: Ill jump in and see whats up. I appreciate the help. the issue isnt installing. The init install added the snaps no problem, the issue is after they are installed. I cant even list the containers
[21:14] <parapan> ioria: warning apt had planned for dpkg to do more that it reported back (0 vs4). Affected packages: rsyslog: amd64 that's all
[21:14] <ioria> parapan,  sudo apt-get install -f
[21:14] <leftyfb> fallenour: snaps aren't docker containers
[21:15] <fallenour> leftyfb: I know, thats the issue though, it installed my docker as a snap too though. Also for LXD
[21:15] <parapan> ioria: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[21:15] <ioria> parapan,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:15] <fallenour>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZBsxBmD4fv/
[21:15] <fallenour> leftyfb:
[21:15] <parapan> ioria: nothing
[21:15] <ioria> parapan, dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:16] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/es71
[21:16] <fallenour> Also, whoever made the pastebinit, I love you. Id give beer, but alas, I do not know who thy most holyness is. For surely, they are the saviors of us lowly peasants.
[21:17] <OerHeks> ioria, let him do a memtest86 run, these errors occuring are so weird
[21:17] <ioria> parapan, broken, try again
[21:17] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/es7l
[21:17] <ioria> OerHeks, you're probably right
[21:18] <ioria> parapan, apt-cache policy apt | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:18] <OerHeks> i really follow you, and am baffled too
[21:18] <fallenour> ioria: dude...like whoa level images. Definitely need to clean that up at some point.
[21:19] <parapan> ioria: https://termbin.com/eufk
[21:19] <ioria> parapan, you can try a reboot
[21:19] <parapan> ioria: in progress
[21:20] <ioria> fallenour, yes
[21:21] <parapan> ioria: logged in again, during reboot I have the same 4 Fail with creating smth in /dev ...and virtual files and directories ...
[21:22] <fallenour> ioria: parapan Whats the issue you are having? I dont minding helping if I can while looking into mine.
[21:22] <ioria> parapan, uname -r
[21:22] <parapan> OerHeks: 4.15.0.-43-generic
[21:22] <parapan> fallenour: failed update from 16.04 lts to 18.04
[21:23] <ioria> parapan, ok, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[21:23] <OerHeks> .. upgrade to 18,04, this is new info
[21:24] <leftyfb> fallenour: btw, at least with lxd, containers do not get installed within the snap container. They get installed to the typical place in a filesystem. In the case of lxd, it's in /var/lib/lxd with the settings going in /var/snap/lxd. It's more likely the same thing with docker
[21:24] <parapan> ioria: all packages are up to date ...0 upgr, 0 updated, 0 to remove, 0 not upgraded
[21:24] <OerHeks> snaps can keep 3 versions
[21:25] <ioria> parapan, it looks fine to me now, maybe you should paste those boot errors but ia'm leaving now
[21:26] <parapan> ioria: I have a message after login ....upgr from 16.04 lts to 18.04 lts by running sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[21:26] <ioria> parapan, as OerHeks said, maybe chyeck your hw system
[21:26] <ioria> parapan, not useful anymore that msg
[21:26] <parapan> ioria: ok, so i'm good for now ?
[21:27] <ioria> parapan, i guess so (as i said we need to see those errors), bye
[21:27] <parapan> ioria: thanks for taking the trouble ....highly appreciated man !
[21:27] <OerHeks> just go into software updates, set to LTS to LTS, and upgrade normally
[21:28] <parapan> OerHeks: sudo apt-get upgrade tells all packages are up to date ...
[21:29] <parapan> OerHeks: ssh is back on, I think all the other services are working too . . .I will check tomorrow ....
[21:30] <OerHeks> have fun!
[21:30] <parapan> OerHeks: 10x man !
[21:30] <parapan> over and out brothers !
[21:30] <OerHeks> !sunday-icecream ioria
[21:36] <knstn> Evening! Do you think it's possible, to extract the gnome-theme from ubuntu 18.10 and use it on other distro?
[21:39] <westor> hello, i've just upgrade from windows to kubuntu my old laptop but i cannot find my wifi network on the list (it was pretty connected before on windows) any idea how to solve this ? thanks
[21:39] <OerHeks> knstn, you might find the theme on gnome.org?
[21:41] <knstn> OerHeks: I'll give it a try. I tested it in a vm, and looks so good, that i'm about to change my main desktop to it
[21:55] <Eisenherz> hi all
[21:57] <Eisenherz> sup
[21:58] <tomreyn> hey Eisenherz, this channel we use just for support, if you have a question, please just ask. to chat about ubuntu, try #ubuntu-discuss, or #ubuntu-offtopic for everything else (as long as it's within the boundaries of the general community rules here)
[21:59] <Eisenherz> nice thank you
[22:23] <leonardus> The dock is showing on the lock screen, some open applications aren't showing on the dock, and some closed application are showing on the dock
[22:23] <leonardus> anyone else having a similar issue?
[22:24] <leonardus> seems like a pretty urgent security issue that the dock is showing when the computer is locked
[22:25] <leftyfb> lead_pipe23: https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/issues/649
[22:25] <leftyfb> sudo mv /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-dock@ubuntu.com ~/
[22:26] <leftyfb> fixed it for me
[22:30] <tomreyn> bug 1769383
[22:31] <leonardus> leftyfb, now I have no dock
[22:32] <leftyfb> leonardus: ok, my bad. I guess that was dumb on my part, put it back. sudo mv ~/ubuntu-dock@ubuntu.com /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/
[22:35] <leftyfb> tomreyn: looks like they're backporting it to cosmic, but no mention of their latest LTS release
[22:36] <tomreyn> leftyfb: bionic "in progress" on top
[22:36] <leftyfb> ah right
[22:36] <leftyfb> :)
[22:36] <leftyfb> was just reading the last comments
[22:39] <tomreyn> this should probably have a cve
[23:19] <syeekick> apt list --installed >> output.txt            would this work in all debian based systems?
[23:19] <Aaron> nope
[23:19] <Aaron> man apt
[23:28] <tko1977> Anyone thought about the overall process of incorporating GTK 3's gtk-primary-button-warps-slider into radio button-style graphical preferences when using Ubuntu? (For adjusting left button mouse clicks.) I've seen several requests in different forums to do this.
[23:30] <sgian> Hi all, I have a question about syncing (incremental backup) of a windows 10 workstation to a linux server, if anyone has experience with this?
[23:30] <Ool> sgian: with backuppc or similar you can do it
[23:34] <guiverc> sgian, i'd see that as a windows 10 question;  after all all my backup commands are on the machine I want to backup, the file-server just saves that data & is not involved.
[23:34] <sgian> Ool, thank you for the response..there is a stipulation that I failed to mention.. the backup has to be  pulled from the linux machine.  I briefly pulled up the backuppc page but it's not immedietly clear
[23:35] <sgian> ool, is it possible with this?
[23:35] <tko1977> re: left button mouse clicks i guess things didn't go so well in the past with rolling out Unity so basically they leave preference settings up to the core devs to implement (I use Xubuntu but dabble in vanilla Ubuntu too)
[23:36] <sgian> guiverc, well, it actually has to be pulled from the linux machine, and can't be pushed from the windows machine
[23:37] <tko1977> extensibility is something that could be worked on with the GTK configs
[23:37] <Guest83283> If you select the "use entire disk" option during installation will that automatically create a swap partition too?
[23:38] <guiverc> sgian, i can't help; if it were me I'd just `scp` from the machine-being-backed up to the file-server; not pull.
[23:39] <sgian> guiverc: its a one way vpn..so it has to be a pull... i can ssh from the target to the source, but having issues getting scp to work...thank you for the help and response
[23:42] <sgian> ool: looks like that might work...thank you for the suggestion
[23:43] <tko1977> i need to do some more research about it
[23:45] <Guest13151> If I check "use entire disk" during the install it should create a swap partition automatically right? I think thats what happens
[23:49] <OerHeks> Guest13151, standard a swapfile, in the 1 partition scheme
[23:49] <Guest13151> OerHeks: what?
[23:50] <OerHeks> see "for new installs .. " https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Other_base_system_changes_since_16.04_LTS
[23:50] <OerHeks> so, entire disk is oke