[00:52] Hello, I am having issues booting into my Ubuntu 18.04 desktop image. I can't seem to figure out how to fix the image from my Ubuntu 16.04 live flashdrive. Any help? [00:54] can you load ubuntu 18.04 onto unetbootin? [00:56] jordan1s, I don't understand. [00:57] you're having issues updating from 16 to 18? [01:00] we surely need more information [01:01] I would run a fresh install with unetbootin if that's the case. someone smarter than I may have a different solution though [01:02] unetbootin is depreciated, rufus or etcher are recommended tools [01:03] but what is the real question, why does 18.04 not boot, what goes wrong on what hardware? [01:06] jordan1s, OerHeks, I am running Ubuntu 16.04 on a live disk. I have a corrupted image of Ubuntu 18.04 installed on the hard drive that I would like to recover. [01:06] The system was taking too long to reboot, so I manually powered it down. It hasn't booted normally (functionally) since. [01:27] Good afternoon everyone. [01:48] Hi folks [01:48] How in heavens name can I get a version of scheme other than 9.1.1, which is what comes with ubuntu [01:54] Hi all [01:54] margaritamike: aren't there several different scheme implementations? are you after a specific one? [01:55] I've got a strange problem and have had trouble pinning down the source [01:55] Since rebooting my system has become unbearably slow [01:55] however nothing significant shows up in htop [01:55] and there is no huge disk activity shown in iostat [01:56] I'm at a loss as to what it could be [01:56] the slowness manifests itself particularly when typing, for instance into the url bar in Firefox, or in the program search menu [01:56] typing in the terminal seems to be unaffected [02:07] EPIC5-2.0.1 (Indolence) + LiCe v5.3.0 (blackwind) [02:07] ah, it was the cpu frequency being set too low [02:14] RoDiMuS-X: can we help you with something? [02:16] So I'm on Bionic, but I've a machine with a graphics chipset that needs a 4.19+ kernel for proper support (have already enountered a hard lockup on 4.15.x kernel). Using Ukuu and pullig in the latest 4.20 series kernel listed, it looks like the accompanying firmware modules don't include a number of ati firmware files (and in fact, I believe one of the missing firmware files may apply to my hardware). What's the best approach to get a newer [02:16] kernel series installed with a complete firmware modules package accompanying it? [02:17] oceanquake: 4.20 isn't supported here yet. [02:18] leftyfb: How about 4.19? [02:19] oceanquake: where does it say your graphics chipset only works in 4.19+? [02:22] oceanquake: 4.19 was just released 3 months ago. You have a graphics chipset that says it only works with a kernel released 3 months ago? [02:25] maybe ryzen with 4.18, but that would be cosmic18.10 [02:26] or with HWE if it's yet possible, to stay with bionic [02:26] but with 4.18 [02:27] There's no version of ubuntu with 4.19 https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image-generic [02:29] I'm trying to fix my broken Ubuntu 18.04 image. I am trying these commands: [02:29] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt [02:29] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda [02:29] The file /mnt/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. [02:29] leftyfb: I'm trying to find my notes on this (still looking), but the graphics chipset itself doesn't tell me anything. There were specific bug fixes for the chipset series (Vega 10) I have that were implemented in one of the later 4.18 series, with some others coming in in 4.19. It's a relatively new APU, and unsurprising that the Linux support lags windows. On 4.15, as I said, I am seeing hard lockups and when the system runs, dmesg shows [02:29] crash traces coming from the gpu driver. [02:33] exit [02:36] support for vega is fixed some time ago, and fresh build for 18.04.1 https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-prorad-lin-18-30 [02:37] but the ppa might be more helpfull [02:39] OerHeks: what is the path to the ppa? [02:43] oibaf i think https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers [02:43] but use at your own risc [02:44] OerHeks: this would contain backports for changes made to amdgpu that were merged into later kernels? [02:46] i hope so, there are some tips on DRI3 here too https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux === capella|away is now known as capella [03:23] Hello everyone. Does someone know how to change the mirrors on the minimal iso? The reason is because I have setup a local mirror for my lab pc's and I would like that the installer used that ( Because of metered internet connection ) [03:24] qwebirc40338: you can mess around with /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d but i don't know otherwise. [03:24] My USB printer is only printing the first page of any job on 18.04 LTS. What should I do? [03:24] The proper drivers are installed [03:24] qwebirc40338: the only way i know of to install from a mirror is to do a manual install via debootstrap. [03:25] do you like matsumaezuke Sushi-san? [03:25] What? [03:25] ryuo: thanks it were they were located on the ISO because I would like to use them even within the installer but still thanks for the respons [03:25] hi all [03:26] ubuntu the best [03:26] and thanks I will try to take a look on debootstrap [03:26] qwebirc40338: it's an expert option. you have to know how to configure Ubuntu yourself. [03:27] qwebirc40338: i can give you my command notes if it would help you. [03:27] sure thanks [03:29] when is ubuntu taking over windows [03:39] qwebirc40338: moment. [03:39] no worries at all ryuo [03:45] qwebirc40338: http://dpaste.com/2740302 [03:48] thank you very much ryuo that helps alot and looks pretty easy for me to make to me [03:49] qwebirc40338: yes, the main issue is system specific configuration such as block device layout and networking. [03:53] ryuo: yeah true but still its way better for me to create the lab pc's that way for now to not use that much data compared to have to download it from the internet everytime [03:57] if you uninstall root, you could just login as root user still? [03:59] uninstall root, if you could do that .. but no, you can disable root access in your account, and not getting it back. to restore that you need to recovery mode, single user [04:01] I meant sudo package [04:02] like in splash screen choose login as another user, and enter root [04:02] there is no root account, it is disabled. [04:02] janat08: it is a really bad idea to login as root. [04:02] !root [04:02] Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [04:03] i think the whole desktop disappears with removing that sudo package [04:05] it is possible to leave sudo apt remove in cli, and then enter another sudo command :D [04:08] what's best, laptop-mode-tools or tlp? [04:08] Kumool: "best" is subjective. It depends on each user and their requirements/preferences. [04:10] Kumool: apt-cache show # use this to read the description of each and decide for yourself. Or try them both and decide what best suits your personal needs. [04:10] Well, does one have more features than the other? which is better mantained [04:10] it seems laptop-mode-tools is less maintained [04:11] i think laptop-mode-tools are more kernel advanced [04:12] qwebirc40338: lab PC? you might be interested in using overlayroot. [04:12] qwebirc40338: basically allows the root FS to be used without modification. [04:13] qwebirc40338: you can make a separate home partition that is cleaned up after each user session or something. [04:13] qwebirc40338: it does complicate updates a bit though, so you may want to reboot with this feature disabled when you do updates. [04:14] qwebirc40338: though you can use overlay-chroot to update it, but it tends to have issues with grub. [04:17] I will try to look into that and thanks. About when I call it lab, its virtual servers and ubuntu desktops ( running on Xcp-ng ) there is used everytime I need to test anything like testing new configurations for my online servers, system upgrades etc [04:20] qwebirc40338: i see. well, i use debootstrap for custom installs. if the official installers aren't adequate, it's the only real option left. [04:20] qwebirc40338: maybe you should consider using container templates if you frequently need to redo these "virtual servers". [04:23] i modified .bashrc file with export PATH=~/.local/bin and now it looks like my PATH can't be updated by newly installed software [04:24] if i delete will it work agian? did i possibly delete bash/bin comment [04:24] ryuo: it could be a good idea to use container templates for the servers, because I'm maybe redoing the servers at least 4 times a month on a busy month. Wich also in the reason that I have a local apt-mirror so I dont have to download all patches from the internet lets say 5 or 6 times everytime I recreate the servers [04:30] qwebirc40338: ah. LXD could be worth looking at then. i use them myself. it's pretty viable. === tulsi is now known as Guest49578 === jsgruber is now known as jsjgruber [04:46] hi all [04:46] any i can run ubuntu virtualbox more smoother any settings [05:02] hello [05:03] hi === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius === sinner is now known as Guest33457 === fishfox__ is now known as fishfox_ [05:45] Hello! [06:00] linux-mint [06:01] Do you use Clover Bootloader? === sinner is now known as Guest70711 [06:21] hey ok, had a broken packages error during an upgrade. using apt-get install -f didn't work [06:23] i got "libdvd-pkg: 'apt-get check' failed, you may have broken packages. Aborting... [06:29] bluefox83: pastebin the whole log to the channel please, volunteers might be of better help this way [06:29] bluefox83: your ubuntu version and ppa's added might also be usefull [06:34] oh snap i didn't see you respond, my apologies [06:35] the upgrade log is bigger than my screen will show [06:38] https://pastebin.com/Na6X0dG4 [06:39] that's as much as i can view in the screen where i'm actually running a command, i was trying to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get get upgrade [06:40] bluefox83: did you add external ppa's to your system? [06:41] lotuspsychje: no i recently removed all the ppas i had listed because they wouldn't work at all, they failed at the update stage [06:42] info libdvd-pkg [06:42] !info libdvd-pkg [06:42] libdvd-pkg (source: libdvd-pkg): DVD-Video playing library - installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1-1 (bionic), package size 14 kB, installed size 79 kB [06:43] bluefox83: what happens when you try to purge this package? [06:45] lotuspsychje: it acts like it's already gone [06:45] bluefox83: what about an apt-cache clean [06:45] https://pastebin.com/kPqzQB6f [06:46] im getting an invalid command [06:47] i think i'm doing something wrong [06:48] bluefox83: try: sudo apt purge libdvd-pkg [06:49] that seems to have done something [06:51] bluefox83: now try again, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [06:52] im wondering if this is going to upgrade to the next version of ubuntu [06:54] bluefox83: at wich point are you right now? did you do an lts upgarde? [06:54] well a few hours ago my system asked if i wanted to upgrade to a new version [06:55] so i clicked yes, but then things got messed up and i had to restart === Class7_ is now known as Class7 [06:57] bluefox83: pastebin: uname -a && lsb_release -a plz? [06:59] it's currently downloading stuff, it wont mess that up will it? [07:00] bluefox83: open a new terminal to see [07:01] bluefox83: the previous command was to update your current system [07:01] https://pastebin.com/AFmbWGMg [07:01] bluefox83: yeah something went wrong there, you are still on xenial kernel, but system says 18.04 [07:01] bluefox83: so lets await your updates first [07:01] k [07:08] i don't remember the last time it took this long for an upgrade O.o [07:11] bluefox83: ltsupgrades are mostly pretty intense [07:13] its funny, the upgrade thing earlier said it would only take 6 minutes [07:14] bluefox83: i think your in the twilight zone in between 2 systems now [07:15] well at least it hasnt blown up [07:25] bluefox83: after the updates, check uname -a again [07:40] well...that didn't go as planned [07:40] i can't get gdm to start [07:40] even after a restart [07:46] hi ubuntu [07:46] after many difficulties i finally installed it [07:53] i'm having trouble with getting things to finish installing [07:56] bluefox83: does 'apt list --upgradable' list anything? [07:57] rudy_, welcome to the team! :) [07:57] ducasse: it's upgrading stuff right now. i did an apt-get install -f [07:58] bluefox83: aha, ok - let's hope that sorts things out [07:59] really wish i was installing from scratch with a usb drive. upgrading is almost always a pain in the rear [08:00] it tends to go well for me, but i take precautions [08:02] i usually find installing from scratch is a lot easier, upgrading tends to run into issues [08:03] but i didn't have a usb drive on me and i was curious to see how this upgrade was gonna go [08:03] hi diskin ...yeah suppa cool [08:04] i cant wait to get mastodon working here [08:06] well i got gdm up and running, but it looks like it's in a really low graphics mode [08:11] ok then, it's up and running, but it does not feel very stable... [08:12] hello guys, where is the named.conf in ubuntu? [08:12] eof [08:13] morphyeys: for bind9 it's /etc/bind/named.conf [08:13] I don't have such dir [08:14] morphyeys: is bind9 properly installed? [08:14] is it installed by default? [08:14] no [08:14] I just want to learn and understand the DNS zone files [08:14] please help me with that guys [08:15] that's not what we're here for, try ##networking [08:16] but if you want to learn about zone files you need a dns server - like bind [08:24] hi do you know the best app for mastodon on ubuntu? [08:32] rudy_, I assume you have seen https://hostpresto.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-mastodon-on-ubuntu-16-04/ already? I have no experience with mastodon, though [08:33] I have a problem with "supervisord". I want to run a program in /home/user/dir, but it just does not work. supervisor does not get access to the files it seems. [08:33] https://dpaste.de/CwqW/raw [08:34] thnks diskin ..i dont want to install instances of mastodon but an desktop app to view mastodon toot ... [08:34] When I am logged in as the user and run the command, it works. It just does not work with supervisorctl [08:37] https://github.com/c4pt000/CentCOG7 [08:39] Hello. I'm trying to install SElinux on 18.04. After disabling and removing apparmor and installing SElinux it is staying 'disabled'. Is there a way to solve this? [08:40] c4pt00: Please don't spam unsolicited links to unknown archives in here [08:40] Anyone help me find an ubuntu image with the kernel 4.15.0-29-generic? [08:42] Hello! I have an external monitor connected to my laptop. They have different resolutions/sizes, and I need them to have a different scale (one at 100%, other at 200%). In Settings > Devices > Displays you can change the scale, but it applies to both monitors. Is there a possibility to have different scales simultaniously? Running Ubuntu 18.10. Thank you! [08:42] Polesch: why do you need that specific kernel version? [08:42] AMD RAID driver support [08:43] SlidingHorn, OpenCOG framework from Ubuntu 14.04/16.04 transistioned to CentOS7 [08:43] c4pt00: okay...not sure why a CentOS port is relevant here. [08:44] I've tried with several distros already, it fails to load the module during boot, with an error message suggesting I need that kernel. [08:44] this is ubuntu , I posted to several major linux distro channels, [08:44] !kernel | Polesch maybe this can be helpful...not sure [08:44] Polesch maybe this can be helpful...not sure: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages) [08:44] i also re-rolled linux 4.4 [08:44] experimental security kernel, [08:44] c4pt00: 1. It's spam, 2. It's off topic for this channel [08:45] 3. crossposting is rude [08:45] https://github.com/c4pt000/kernel-4.4.167expSEHDsec_XPAD1_tg3_moonlogo_MT7610Uwifi-41.x86_64 [08:46] Don't think I have the experience to build my own kernel and generate an image, was just hoping to find one [08:46] Polesch, there are debs there ^ [08:46] @Polesch: It isn't that hard [08:46] Polesch, git clone linux.tar.gz [08:46] Polesch, apt-get install build-essential? [08:47] The AMD manual says 16.04.1 should work, but the image I downloaded had the 4.4 kernel [08:47] make -j16 deb-pkg or make -j16 deb [08:47] c4pt00: please stop spamming your github. It is not relevant to Polesch's issue [08:47] no problem [08:47] download linux.tar.gz [08:47] tar -xvf linux.tar.gz [08:47] make menuconfig [08:47] save and exit or modify and save and exit [08:47] any ops around? [08:47] c4pt00: either be quiet or be helpful, please [08:48] make -j16 (where -j16 is core count) deb-pkg (or make -j16 deb) [08:48] thats pretty helpful ? [08:48] c4pt00: no, it's not. It's completely irrelevant to what the user asked for. [08:48] Is SlidingHorn a bot? [08:48] compiling kernels isn't generally something to suggest to people. [08:48] Not to mention it's unsupported, untrusted software [08:49] What do you then suggest SlidingHorn? [08:50] typnix: I already pointed the user to the !kernel factoid (which, in turn, also lets them know about !mainline) [08:50] I get Invalid module format error when I try to install them, saying my kernel is 4.4 and that the module is built on or for 4.15.0-29 [08:50] Polesch: you can't take modules from another kernel. [08:51] @SlidingHorn: ok [08:52] I want to install ubuntu on an AMD RAID partition, they instruct me to install the drivers first before boot. I get invalid module format error. [08:52] Polesch: which version of ubuntu are you trying to install, firstly? [08:52] I've tried 16.04.1, 16.04.5 and 18.04 [08:54] !raid | Polesch have you looked at these resources yet? [08:54] Polesch have you looked at these resources yet?: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [08:55] So there are no ubuntu images with kernel 4.15.0-29 available? [08:56] Polesch: off the top of my head, I don't *think so* [09:02] Polesch: actually just searched with apt-cache and there is an image in the repository...I'm not confident in my knowledge to recommend installing it personally. Might want to see if someone more experienced with kernel fidgeting than myself can answer more definitively [09:02] !info linux-image-4.15.0-29-generic bonic [09:02] 'bonic' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed [09:02] !info linux-image-4.15.0-29-generic bionic [09:02] linux-image-4.15.0-29-generic (source: linux): Linux kernel image for version 4.15.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0-29.31 (bionic), package size 7164 kB, installed size 7467 kB [09:20] But can someone help me with SElinux on Ubuntu? [09:21] typnix: which version and flavor of ubuntu were you using again? [09:22] @SlidingHorn: 18.04 [09:22] And it is Ubuntu-server [09:23] But the guys from ubuntu-server are not responding [09:25] typnix: were you following a particular guide for installation? [09:25] @SlidingHorn: yes [09:25] typnix: mind sharing the linK? [09:26] https://www.linode.com/docs/quick-answers/linux/install-selinux-on-ubuntu/ [09:27] typnix: any particular reason you need selinux over apparmor? (It's looking like neither linode nor Ubuntu really actively support it anymore) [09:28] the selinux package itself is not really maintained, last i heard [09:28] @SlidingHorn: Because it is a security requirement. [09:28] When I use & in a bash script, what kind of parallelism is that? Am I parallelizing it across all threads in the machine? [09:30] typnix: looking further - Ubuntu started to drop support like 10 years ago. (See !selinux and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux) [09:30] YAp_: that may be more of a question for #bash - this channel is more for ubuntu-specific support [09:31] typnix: (the "if you wish to use..." part does show "instructions" but they're also 7 years old) [09:32] SlidingHorn: Sure, thanks [09:32] YAp_: np :) [09:32] @SlidingHorn: I've als tried with installing selinux-basics and selinux-policy-default [09:32] if you really need SElinux perhaps it's better to use an other distrib. Ubuntu like other make the choice of apparmor, [09:33] typnix: that's not my point...my point is that those instructions are *many* versions behind, as Ubuntu dropped support for the platform a *long* time ago [09:34] Is it still possible to install packages from Debian repo's? [09:34] typnix: not in any supported fashion [09:34] typnix: when you say it's "a security requirement" - by whom, might I ask? [09:35] @SlidingHorn: I cannot say. [09:35] typnix: understood. If it's that much of a requirement, Ubuntu may not be the route for you :/ === Jerry_Xiao is now known as JerryXiao [09:36] @SlidingHorn: Okay. Thank you. :) [09:58] i tried to get paragon to work and it looked like i needed some key i didnt have. i used unetbootin on a windows install on a different computer to create a boot disk with windows 7 iso on my flash so i could finally attempt to repair boot sector on this laptop im running that has windows installed. I have Puppy Linux loaded into Ram from CDROM live CD. this is how im accessing my hard drive. otherwise the boot is not wo [10:00] usb. that says unetbootin default >/ubnkern initrd=ubninit and the boot just resets every 10 seconds or i press tab and am taking to what looks like a shell to give commands. but i have no idea what to do now [10:00] i was expeceting the windows PE to load from flash from iso on flash that i put there with unetboot [10:00] anyone got any ideas? [10:01] flyingdeathtouch: Where does Ubuntu come into this? [10:03] i read ubkern and thought maybe this meant unetboot was some ubuntu kernal program. im sorry ive been at this a while and im grasping at straws. do you have any suggestions what i should try? [10:03] flyingdeathtouch: so at the end you have a bios booting windows 7 system ? [10:04] flyingdeathtouch: it is important what are you booting from the usbkey [10:04] well the P.E. doesnt look like windows at all... its just a blank but yes i made the image with a windows 7 iso [10:04] how to disable keyboard input? [10:05] fishcooker: why do you need to disable the keyboard input? What version and flavor of ubuntu are you using? [10:06] well the windows things i had to download was actually the PE for win8 but it idnt give any other options and i thought i could ust use the PE to repair the already existing installlation so it could boot correectly. [10:06] flyingdeathtouch: win8 needs a uefi boot system..... [10:07] flyingdeathtouch: gigirock: (this should probably continue in #ubuntu-offtopic or a windows channel [10:08] SlidingHorn: https://tmate.io/t/ro-eCK3E6NY6xtt7ZMxbgTEVhjzL can you try this ? [10:09] flyingdeathtouch: can you see my terminal window ? [10:10] gigirock: I see a Mint prompt [10:10] SlidingHorn: nice one, did you enter a password ? [10:10] no [10:11] ok [10:11] thank for your support [10:11] SlidingHorn: with that users can share terminal screen [10:11] SlidingHorn: so we can see what they are doing [10:11] SlidingHorn: in the support session [10:12] SlidingHorn: it is tmate that is already in ubu repos [10:13] !info tmate [10:13] tmate (source: tmate): terminal multiplexer with instant terminal sharing. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-1build1 (bionic), package size 259 kB, installed size 692 kB [10:13] the ISO booting is win7 sp.1. i used winboot to create a bootable flash but i had to download various things on another win7 installation and one of them was said win8... [10:13] pe [10:14] flyingdeathtouch: M$ trouble.... u r offtopic here [10:15] i now get a message, when i boot [22:59] == bluefox83 [~bluefox@cpe-74-128-154-237.kya.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] [22:59] == mgottschlag [~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64] has joined #ubuntu [23:00] usb. that says unetbootin default >/ubnkern initrd=ubninit and the boot just resets every 10 seconds or i press tab and am taking to what looks like a shell to give commands. but i have no idea wha [10:15] oops [10:15] sorry [10:16] ok i go [11:02] do people still use IRC? [11:02] im looking for a channel of active Linux users :) [11:15] TJ-: hey, so I tested this udev rule out by replacing the /sbin/ethtool command with a touch command: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/b5TTT4pvQW/ [11:15] there is no new file in /tmp, so I guess its not executed. [11:18] fub: aha! so presumably the name isn't the 'new' name at that time. So all that is needed is to capture the events/attributes udev sees and figure out a better match combination [11:19] Hi all [11:19] My PC doesn't suspend. Ubuntu 18.04/KDE. Any ideas why? [11:19] TJ-: okay, so how can I catch the events? [11:19] fub: disconnect the device, do "udevadm monitor -kup |& tee /tmp/udev.log" plug the device in, wait for the messages to stop, Ctrl+C the udevadm and "pastebinit /tmp/udev.log" [11:20] I mean it doesn't suspend automatically. When I do this manually - it works [11:21] TJ-: all right. Short question, why are you using |& tee and not a ">" here? [11:21] ah, its stderr and stdout, understand. [11:22] TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K7k4XRk3xx/ [11:23] Maybe line 2343 is interesting. [11:23] fub: so you can see and confirm messages [11:28] fub: That device's actions seem to start around line 2220 [11:28] okay [11:30] Hey folks [11:30] Good evening BluesKaj === capella is now known as capella|away [11:31] hi open_source2k [11:32] So, I still haven't figured it out after few months. I'm getting "broken packages"/"unmet dependencies" when trying to install winehq-devel and I haven't ever figured out how to fix this. Could something like ppa with latest binutils interfere with that? [11:32] TJ-: so how do I need to adapt the udev rule? [11:36] fub: I'm trying to figure that out; the rules certainly match the initial add event so even if that is the wrong time to do the ethtool operation, it should still have triggered, so something is preventing that. I'm wondering if another rule earlier does so. Silly idea but rename the .rules file - change the prefix from 99 to 01 and then test again (with the touch /tmp/... ) [11:36] fub: I'll do a test here with a USB net device I've lying around [11:41] ok thanks [11:44] fub: grrr, having to build drivers! [11:44] TJ-: sorry for the hassle :/ [11:46] OK, that worked. now to investigate [11:49] hi, how do i install ranger without installing python2? apt show ranger shows 'Depends: python:any (<< 2.8), python:any (>= 2.7.5-5~), less' but if i 'sudo apt install ranger' it says 'The following additional packages will be installed: [11:49] libpython-stdlib python python-minimal python2.7 python2.7-minimal' [11:57] anybody out there [11:57] fub: OK, figured it out! The 'udevadm -kup' - "-u" shows attributes created by rules. Using "udevadm -kp --subsystem=match=net" shows the only 'add' is for the kernel-name (in my case 'wlan0') not the news name. So you will have to change the ACTION from "add|change" to "move" and then test again [11:58] okay, wil ltest it now :) [11:58] fub: if that causes /usr/bin/touch /tmp/... to work then you can switch to the ethtool command [11:59] does anybody know how to turn a usb drive into a disk image i think i messed it up becuase it downst show up in the boot menu [12:00] Hey. maybe I have misunderstood something, but it seems the regular command ls is broken on ubuntu https://pastebin.com/M8YHsgGV . Why does ls /etc/x* print out filenames that does not start with /etc/x ? [12:00] invitingdpeman: that very much depends on which boot method is being used [12:01] i use unetbootin [12:01] invitingdpeman: but what boot method is the PC using? BIOS? UEFI? [12:02] i think bios [12:02] hello, I'm using version 16.04 on a Lenovo Yoga 920. Super happy with it, but sometimes when I get a black screen and can't do anything other than "REISUB" after closing the lid of the laptop and suspending it. I also got it when I do suspend via terminal. A trigger might be unplugging it while being suspended. Any suggestions on what to look for to fix it? [12:04] TJ-: so the touch worked (so the udev rule). I then changed my original udev rule also to "move", but running show-eee still shows: EEE status: enabled - active [12:04] maybe its too early to execute this command? [12:04] invitingdpeman: if BIOS mode then as long as the USB storage has a partition table and a bootloader the BIOS should load it if you select that USB device to boot from [12:05] fub: you're using the full path to /sbin/ethtool ? [12:05] TJ-: yes, as you can see in the paste. [12:05] ok what about UEFI [12:05] ACTION=="move",SUBSYSTEM=="net",ENV{INTERFACE}=="enx0050b68c5e50",RUN+="/sbin/ethtool --set-eee off $env{INTERFACE}" [12:05] which ethtool also shows /sbin/ethtool [12:07] fub: then the touch proves the rule is good. I suspect you're going to need a later action possibly using a systemd unit file. That should be trivial because it can be set to wait for the device to appear. [12:09] fub: Do "systemctl list-units | grep enx" you should see something like "sys-subsystem-net-devices-enx?????.device [12:09] TJ-: using sleep in the udev rule before the /sbin/ethtool is not a good idea? [12:09] fub: in which case a service that Requires/After= for that would do it [12:09] TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T64WGZyHsj/ [12:10] fub: generally no udev doesn't tolerate long-running processes - things are supposed to do minimal actions and quit at udev time [12:10] fub: I had to write one of these systemd rules yesterday on another system, I'll grab it and use it as a template you can try [12:11] TJ-: this would be nice, thanks a lot. [12:12] hi, how do i start a process as a none super user on boot? (without logging in) [12:12] ive found ways to do it as root or as a normal user, the latter requires me to log in tho [12:13] comon yall i need help does anybody know how to turn a usb drive back into a usable boot device [12:13] just right a bootable image to it [12:13] write even [12:14] i do using unetbootin but it doesnt show up in the boot menu on windows does [12:14] only windows shows up [12:14] then perhaps the usb port is broken [12:15] no it reads just fine [12:15] go into the bios and choose the usb port as the first boot option [12:16] 'or UEFI [12:16] ok will try that [12:18] fub: try this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c4h7J8jsVX/ === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk === coffeeguy is now known as zenguy [12:24] Hi, I'm having trouble to join the #ubuntu-bugs channel with the matrix app. When I try I always get kicked out. Do you maybe know how to get in? [12:26] TJ-: so I rebooted, but it has no effect. In the systemctl-status it shows as Active: inactive (dead) [12:31] good morning [12:32] why the copy and paste command inside the terminal is different the the rest of the system? [12:32] fub: shouldn't ever need a reboot. a oneshot is expected to be inactive(dead) since it ran a command and exited, it doesn't remain running like a system service would [12:33] fub: was their any log entries other than the status, like 'Starting...' and 'Started...' [12:33] lipe66: ctrl+c and ctrl+v are already in use in terminals [12:35] ducasse: i need to use shift+ctrl+c as a standard shortcut for copy and shif+ctrl+v for paste in the rest of the system i can ditch the shift [12:36] forget it [12:36] TJ-: no, no other entry. [12:37] ctr+c is break command [12:38] TJ-: ah wait, the oneshot command is wrong [12:38] ExecStart=/sbin/ethtool --set-eee off enx0050b68c5e50 [12:38] the correct command is /sbin/ethtool --set-eee enx0050b68c5e50 eee off [12:38] just noticed the little difference [12:39] fub: then that is why the udev rule failed too - I took that from the pastebin RUN+="/sbin/ethtool --set-eee off $env{INTERFACE}" [12:40] yeah that was the one I had from you a few days ago, sorry for not checking it again. [12:40] let me try it with the udev rule again [12:40] fub: I bet that'll work. Not having an interface here that exposes EEE I can't actually test that command [12:43] TJ-: finally, it works! Thanks a lot! [12:44] Hi, I'm having trouble to join the #ubuntu-bugs channel with the matrix app. When I try I always get kicked out. Do you maybe know how to get in? [12:46] wrztlgrmpf, matrix ? [12:47] running 'xrandr' I see "1920x1080 60.00 + 144.00* (...)" I haven't done anything in particular to configure this. Seems it defaults to 144 Hz. What is it that prefers 60 ? [12:49] fub: udev, or systemd, or both? [12:49] > wrztlgrmpf, matrix ? [12:49] It's this programm: [12:49] https://matrix.org/blog/home/ [12:50] wrztlgrmpf: possibly the channel requires registration (it has 'r' flag) [12:51] Which ubuntu flavour supports 150% scaling for high DPI displays? [12:51] osse, which gpu again? [12:52] BluesKaj: GTX770 [12:54]