[00:52] <Goop> Hello, I am having issues booting into my Ubuntu 18.04 desktop image. I can't seem to figure out how to fix the image from my Ubuntu 16.04 live flashdrive. Any help?
[00:54] <jordan1s> can you load ubuntu 18.04 onto unetbootin?
[00:56] <Goop> jordan1s, I don't understand.
[00:57] <jordan1s> you're having issues updating from 16 to 18?
[01:00] <OerHeks> we surely need more information
[01:01] <jordan1s> I would run a fresh install with unetbootin if that's the case. someone smarter than I may have a different solution though
[01:02] <OerHeks> unetbootin is depreciated, rufus or etcher are recommended tools
[01:03] <OerHeks> but what is the real question, why does 18.04 not boot, what goes wrong on what hardware?
[01:06] <Goop> jordan1s, OerHeks, I am running Ubuntu 16.04 on a live disk. I have a corrupted image of Ubuntu 18.04 installed on the hard drive that I would like to recover.
[01:06] <Goop> The system was taking too long to reboot, so I manually powered it down. It hasn't booted normally (functionally) since.
[01:27] <open_source2K> Good afternoon everyone.
[01:48] <margaritamike> Hi folks
[01:48] <margaritamike> How in heavens name can I get a version of scheme other than 9.1.1, which is what comes with ubuntu
[01:54] <jophish> Hi all
[01:54] <oceanquake> margaritamike: aren't there several different scheme implementations?  are you after a specific one?
[01:55] <jophish> I've got a strange problem and have had trouble pinning down the source
[01:55] <jophish> Since rebooting my system has become unbearably slow
[01:55] <jophish> however nothing significant shows up in htop
[01:55] <jophish> and there is no huge disk activity shown in iostat
[01:56] <jophish> I'm at a loss as to what it could be
[01:56] <jophish> the slowness manifests itself particularly when typing, for instance into the url bar in Firefox, or in the program search menu
[01:56] <jophish> typing in the terminal seems to be unaffected
[02:07] <RoDiMuS-X> EPIC5-2.0.1 (Indolence) + LiCe v5.3.0 (blackwind)
[02:07] <jophish> ah, it was the cpu frequency being set too low
[02:14] <leftyfb> RoDiMuS-X: can we help you with something?
[02:16] <oceanquake> So I'm on Bionic, but I've a machine with a graphics chipset that needs a 4.19+ kernel for proper support (have already enountered a hard lockup on 4.15.x kernel).  Using Ukuu and pullig in the latest 4.20 series kernel listed, it looks like the accompanying firmware modules don't include a number of ati firmware files (and in fact, I believe one of the missing firmware files may apply to my hardware).  What's the best approach to get a newer
[02:16] <oceanquake> kernel series installed with a complete firmware modules package accompanying it?
[02:17] <leftyfb> oceanquake: 4.20 isn't supported here yet.
[02:18] <oceanquake> leftyfb: How about 4.19?
[02:19] <leftyfb> oceanquake: where does it say your graphics chipset only works in 4.19+?
[02:22] <leftyfb> oceanquake: 4.19 was just released 3 months ago. You have a graphics chipset that says it only works with a kernel released 3 months ago?
[02:25] <OerHeks> maybe ryzen with 4.18, but that would be cosmic18.10
[02:26] <Ool> or with HWE if it's yet possible, to stay with bionic
[02:26] <Ool> but with 4.18
[02:27] <leftyfb> There's no version of ubuntu with 4.19 https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image-generic
[02:29] <Goop> I'm trying to fix my broken Ubuntu 18.04 image. I am trying these commands:
[02:29] <Goop> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[02:29] <Goop> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[02:29] <Goop> The file /mnt/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[02:29] <oceanquake> leftyfb: I'm trying to find my notes on this (still looking), but the graphics chipset itself doesn't tell me anything.  There were specific bug fixes for the chipset series (Vega 10) I have that were implemented in one of the later 4.18 series, with some others coming in in 4.19.  It's a relatively new APU, and unsurprising that the Linux support lags windows.  On 4.15, as I said, I am seeing hard lockups and when the system runs, dmesg shows
[02:29] <oceanquake> crash traces coming from the gpu driver.
[02:33] <dgregory1> exit
[02:36] <OerHeks> support for vega is fixed some time ago, and fresh build for 18.04.1 https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-prorad-lin-18-30
[02:37] <OerHeks> but the ppa might be more helpfull
[02:39] <oceanquake> OerHeks: what is the path to the ppa?
[02:43] <OerHeks> oibaf i think https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[02:43] <OerHeks> but use at your own risc
[02:44] <oceanquake> OerHeks: this would contain backports for changes made to amdgpu that were merged into later kernels?
[02:46] <OerHeks> i hope so, there are some tips on DRI3 here too https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[03:23] <qwebirc40338> Hello everyone. Does someone know how to change the mirrors on the minimal iso? The reason is because I have setup a local mirror for my lab pc's and I would like that the installer used that ( Because of metered internet connection )
[03:24] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: you can mess around with /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d but i don't know otherwise.
[03:24] <Sushi-san> My USB printer is only printing the first page of any job on 18.04 LTS. What should I do?
[03:24] <Sushi-san> The proper drivers are installed
[03:24] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: the only way i know of to install from a mirror is to do a manual install via debootstrap.
[03:25] <JoeLlama> do you like matsumaezuke Sushi-san?
[03:25] <Sushi-san> What?
[03:25] <qwebirc40338> ryuo: thanks it were they were located on the ISO because I would like to use them even within the installer but still thanks for the respons
[03:25] <mx500> hi all
[03:26] <mx500> ubuntu the best
[03:26] <qwebirc40338> and thanks I will try to take a look on debootstrap
[03:26] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: it's an expert option. you have to know how to configure Ubuntu yourself.
[03:27] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: i can give you my command notes if it would help you.
[03:27] <qwebirc40338> sure thanks
[03:29] <mx500_> when is ubuntu taking over windows
[03:39] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: moment.
[03:39] <qwebirc40338> no worries at all ryuo
[03:45] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: http://dpaste.com/2740302
[03:48] <qwebirc40338> thank you very much ryuo that helps alot and looks pretty easy for me to make to me
[03:49] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: yes, the main issue is system specific configuration such as block device layout and networking.
[03:53] <qwebirc40338> ryuo: yeah true but still its way better for me to create the lab pc's that way for now to not use that much data compared to have to download it from the internet everytime
[03:57] <janat08> if you uninstall root, you could just login as root user still?
[03:59] <OerHeks> uninstall root, if you could do that .. but no, you can disable root access in your account, and not getting it back. to restore that you need to recovery mode, single user
[04:01] <janat08> I meant sudo package
[04:02] <janat08> like in splash screen choose login as another user, and enter root
[04:02] <OerHeks> there is no root account, it is disabled.
[04:02] <hggdh> janat08: it is a really bad idea to login as root.
[04:02] <OerHeks> !root
[04:03] <OerHeks> i think the whole desktop disappears with removing that sudo package
[04:05] <janat08> it is possible to leave sudo apt remove in cli, and then enter another sudo command :D
[04:08] <Kumool> what's best, laptop-mode-tools or tlp?
[04:08] <SlidingHorn> Kumool: "best" is subjective.  It depends on each user and their requirements/preferences.
[04:10] <leftyfb> Kumool: apt-cache show <package name>   # use this to read the description of each and decide for yourself. Or try them both and decide what best suits your personal needs.
[04:10] <Kumool> Well, does one have more features than the other? which is better mantained
[04:10] <Kumool> it seems laptop-mode-tools is less maintained
[04:11] <OerHeks> i think laptop-mode-tools are more kernel advanced
[04:12] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: lab PC? you might be interested in using overlayroot.
[04:12] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: basically allows the root FS to be used without modification.
[04:13] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: you can make a separate home partition that is cleaned up after each user session or something.
[04:13] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: it does complicate updates a bit though, so you may want to reboot with this feature disabled when you do updates.
[04:14] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: though you can use overlay-chroot to update it, but it tends to have issues with grub.
[04:17] <qwebirc40338> I will try to look into that and thanks. About when I call it lab, its virtual servers and ubuntu desktops ( running on Xcp-ng ) there is used everytime I need to test anything like testing new configurations for my online servers, system upgrades etc
[04:20] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: i see. well, i use debootstrap for custom installs. if the official installers aren't adequate, it's the only real option left.
[04:20] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: maybe you should consider using container templates if you frequently need to redo these "virtual servers".
[04:23] <janat08> i modified .bashrc file with export PATH=~/.local/bin and now it looks like my PATH can't be updated by newly installed software
[04:24] <janat08> if i delete will it work agian? did i possibly delete bash/bin comment
[04:24] <qwebirc40338> ryuo: it could be a good idea to use container templates for the servers, because I'm maybe redoing the servers at least 4 times a month on a busy month. Wich also in the reason that I have a local apt-mirror so I dont have to download all patches from the internet lets say 5 or 6 times everytime I recreate the servers
[04:30] <ryuo> qwebirc40338: ah. LXD could be worth looking at then. i use them myself. it's pretty viable.
[04:46] <mx500> hi all
[04:46] <mx500> any i can run ubuntu virtualbox more smoother any settings
[05:02] <lixi> hello
[05:03] <steve__> hi
[05:45] <suifeng> Hello!
[06:00] <praneeth_> linux-mint
[06:01] <praneeth_> Do you use Clover Bootloader?
[06:21] <bluefox83> hey ok, had a broken packages error during an upgrade. using apt-get install -f didn't work
[06:23] <bluefox83> i got "libdvd-pkg: 'apt-get check' failed, you may have broken packages. Aborting...
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: pastebin the whole log to the channel please, volunteers might be of better help this way
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: your ubuntu version and ppa's added might also be usefull
[06:34] <bluefox83> oh snap i didn't see you respond, my apologies
[06:35] <bluefox83> the upgrade log is bigger than my screen will show
[06:38] <bluefox83> https://pastebin.com/Na6X0dG4
[06:39] <bluefox83> that's as much as i can view in the screen where i'm actually running a command, i was trying to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get get upgrade
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: did you add external ppa's to your system?
[06:41] <bluefox83> lotuspsychje: no i recently removed all the ppas i had listed because they wouldn't work at all, they failed at the update stage
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> info libdvd-pkg
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> !info libdvd-pkg
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: what happens when you try to purge this package?
[06:45] <bluefox83> lotuspsychje: it acts like it's already gone
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: what about an apt-cache clean
[06:45] <bluefox83> https://pastebin.com/kPqzQB6f
[06:46] <bluefox83> im getting an invalid command
[06:47] <bluefox83> i think i'm doing something wrong
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: try: sudo apt purge libdvd-pkg
[06:49] <bluefox83> that seems to have done something
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: now try again, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[06:52] <bluefox83> im wondering if this is going to upgrade to the next version of ubuntu
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: at wich point are you right now? did you do an lts upgarde?
[06:54] <bluefox83> well a few hours ago my system asked if i wanted to upgrade to a new version
[06:55] <bluefox83> so i clicked yes, but then things got messed up and i had to restart
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: pastebin: uname -a && lsb_release -a plz?
[06:59] <bluefox83> it's currently downloading stuff, it wont mess that up will it?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: open a new terminal to see
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: the previous command was to update your current system
[07:01] <bluefox83> https://pastebin.com/AFmbWGMg
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: yeah something went wrong there, you are still on xenial kernel, but system says 18.04
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: so lets await your updates first
[07:01] <bluefox83> k
[07:08] <bluefox83> i don't remember the last time it took this long for an upgrade O.o
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: ltsupgrades are mostly pretty intense
[07:13] <bluefox83> its funny, the upgrade thing earlier said it would only take 6 minutes
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: i think your in the twilight zone in between 2 systems now
[07:15] <bluefox83> well at least it hasnt blown up
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> bluefox83: after the updates, check uname -a again
[07:40] <bluefox83> well...that didn't go as planned
[07:40] <bluefox83> i can't get gdm to start
[07:40] <bluefox83> even after a restart
[07:46] <rudy_> hi ubuntu
[07:46] <rudy_> after many difficulties i finally installed it
[07:53] <bluefox83> i'm having trouble with getting things to finish installing
[07:56] <ducasse> bluefox83: does 'apt list --upgradable' list anything?
[07:57] <diskin> rudy_, welcome to the team! :)
[07:57] <bluefox83> ducasse: it's upgrading stuff right now. i did an apt-get install -f
[07:58] <ducasse> bluefox83: aha, ok - let's hope that sorts things out
[07:59] <bluefox83> really wish i was installing from scratch with a usb drive. upgrading is almost always a pain in the rear
[08:00] <ducasse> it tends to go well for me, but i take precautions
[08:02] <bluefox83> i usually find installing from scratch is a lot easier, upgrading tends to run into issues
[08:03] <bluefox83> but i didn't have a usb drive on me and i was curious to see how this upgrade was gonna go
[08:03] <rudy_> hi diskin   ...yeah suppa  cool
[08:04] <rudy_> i cant wait to get mastodon  working here
[08:06] <bluefox83> well i got gdm up and running, but it looks like it's in a really low graphics mode
[08:11] <bluefox83> ok then, it's up and running, but it does not feel very stable...
[08:12] <morphyeys> hello guys, where is the named.conf in ubuntu?
[08:12] <rudy_> eof
[08:13] <ducasse> morphyeys: for bind9 it's /etc/bind/named.conf
[08:13] <morphyeys> I don't have such dir
[08:14] <ducasse> morphyeys: is bind9 properly installed?
[08:14] <morphyeys> is it installed by default?
[08:14] <ducasse> no
[08:14] <morphyeys> I just want to learn and understand the DNS zone files
[08:14] <morphyeys> please help me with that guys
[08:15] <ducasse> that's not what we're here for, try ##networking
[08:16] <ducasse> but if you want to learn about zone files you need a dns server - like bind
[08:24] <rudy_> hi do you know the best app for mastodon on ubuntu?
[08:32] <diskin> rudy_, I assume you have seen https://hostpresto.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-mastodon-on-ubuntu-16-04/ already? I have no experience with mastodon, though
[08:33] <ovalseven8> I have a problem with "supervisord". I want to run a program in /home/user/dir, but it just does not work. supervisor does not get access to the files it seems.
[08:33] <ovalseven8> https://dpaste.de/CwqW/raw
[08:34] <rudy_> thnks diskin ..i dont want to install instances of  mastodon but  an desktop app to view mastodon toot ...
[08:34] <ovalseven8> When I am logged in as the user and run the command, it works. It just does not work with supervisorctl
[08:37] <c4pt00> https://github.com/c4pt000/CentCOG7
[08:39] <typnix> Hello. I'm trying to install SElinux on 18.04. After disabling and removing apparmor and installing SElinux it is staying 'disabled'. Is there a way to solve this?
[08:40] <SlidingHorn> c4pt00: Please don't spam unsolicited links to unknown archives in here
[08:40] <Polesch> Anyone help me find an ubuntu image with the kernel 4.15.0-29-generic?
[08:42] <pizzaburger> Hello! I have an external monitor connected to my laptop. They have different resolutions/sizes, and I need them to have a different scale (one at 100%, other at 200%). In Settings > Devices > Displays you can change the scale, but it applies to both monitors. Is there a possibility to have different scales simultaniously? Running Ubuntu 18.10. Thank you!
[08:42] <SlidingHorn> Polesch: why do you need that specific kernel version?
[08:42] <Polesch> AMD RAID driver support
[08:43] <c4pt00> SlidingHorn, OpenCOG framework from Ubuntu 14.04/16.04 transistioned to CentOS7
[08:43] <SlidingHorn> c4pt00: okay...not sure why a CentOS port is relevant here.
[08:44] <Polesch> I've tried with several distros already, it fails to load the module during boot, with an error message suggesting I need that kernel.
[08:44] <c4pt00> this is ubuntu , I posted to several major linux distro channels,
[08:44] <SlidingHorn> !kernel | Polesch maybe this can be helpful...not sure
[08:44] <c4pt00> i also re-rolled linux 4.4
[08:44] <c4pt00> experimental security kernel,
[08:44] <SlidingHorn> c4pt00: 1. It's spam, 2. It's off topic for this channel
[08:45] <ducasse> 3. crossposting is rude
[08:45] <c4pt00> https://github.com/c4pt000/kernel-4.4.167expSEHDsec_XPAD1_tg3_moonlogo_MT7610Uwifi-41.x86_64
[08:46] <Polesch> Don't think I have the experience to build my own kernel and generate an image, was just hoping to find one
[08:46] <c4pt00> Polesch, there are debs there ^
[08:46] <typnix> @Polesch: It isn't that hard
[08:46] <c4pt00> Polesch, git clone linux.tar.gz
[08:46] <c4pt00> Polesch, apt-get install build-essential?
[08:47] <Polesch> The AMD manual says 16.04.1 should work, but the image I downloaded had the 4.4 kernel
[08:47] <c4pt00> make -j16 deb-pkg or make -j16 deb
[08:47] <SlidingHorn> c4pt00: please stop spamming your github. It is not relevant to Polesch's issue
[08:47] <c4pt00> no problem
[08:47] <c4pt00> download linux.tar.gz
[08:47] <c4pt00> tar -xvf linux.tar.gz
[08:47] <c4pt00> make menuconfig
[08:47] <c4pt00> save and exit or modify and save and exit
[08:47] <ryuo> any ops around?
[08:47] <ducasse> c4pt00: either be quiet or be helpful, please
[08:48] <c4pt00> make -j16 (where -j16 is core count) deb-pkg                 (or make -j16 deb)
[08:48] <c4pt00> thats pretty helpful ?
[08:48] <SlidingHorn> c4pt00: no, it's not.  It's completely irrelevant to what the user asked for.
[08:48] <typnix> Is SlidingHorn a bot?
[08:48] <ryuo> compiling kernels isn't generally something to suggest to people.
[08:48] <SlidingHorn> Not to mention it's unsupported, untrusted software
[08:49] <typnix> What do you then suggest SlidingHorn?
[08:50] <SlidingHorn> typnix: I already pointed the user to the !kernel factoid (which, in turn, also lets them know about !mainline)
[08:50] <Polesch> I get Invalid module format error when I try to install them, saying my kernel is 4.4 and that the module is built on or for 4.15.0-29
[08:50] <ryuo> Polesch: you can't take modules from another kernel.
[08:51] <typnix> @SlidingHorn: ok
[08:52] <Polesch> I want to install ubuntu on an AMD RAID partition, they instruct me to install the drivers first before boot. I get invalid module format error.
[08:52] <SlidingHorn> Polesch: which version of ubuntu are you trying to install, firstly?
[08:52] <Polesch> I've tried 16.04.1, 16.04.5 and 18.04
[08:54] <SlidingHorn> !raid | Polesch have you looked at these resources yet?
[08:55] <Polesch> So there are no ubuntu images with kernel 4.15.0-29 available?
[08:56] <SlidingHorn> Polesch: off the top of my head, I don't *think so*
[09:02] <SlidingHorn> Polesch: actually just searched with apt-cache and there is an image in the repository...I'm not confident in my knowledge to recommend installing it personally. Might want to see if someone more experienced with kernel fidgeting than myself can answer more definitively
[09:02] <SlidingHorn> !info linux-image-4.15.0-29-generic bonic
[09:02] <SlidingHorn> !info linux-image-4.15.0-29-generic bionic
[09:20] <typnix> But can someone help me with SElinux on Ubuntu?
[09:21] <SlidingHorn> typnix: which version and flavor of ubuntu were you using again?
[09:22] <typnix> @SlidingHorn: 18.04
[09:22] <typnix> And it is Ubuntu-server
[09:23] <typnix> But the guys from ubuntu-server are not responding
[09:25] <SlidingHorn> typnix: were you following a particular guide for installation?
[09:25] <typnix> @SlidingHorn: yes
[09:25] <SlidingHorn> typnix: mind sharing the linK?
[09:26] <typnix> https://www.linode.com/docs/quick-answers/linux/install-selinux-on-ubuntu/
[09:27] <SlidingHorn> typnix: any particular reason you need selinux over apparmor? (It's looking like neither linode nor Ubuntu really actively support it anymore)
[09:28] <ducasse> the selinux package itself is not really maintained, last i heard
[09:28] <typnix> @SlidingHorn: Because it is a security requirement.
[09:28] <YAp_> When I use & in a bash script, what kind of parallelism is that? Am I parallelizing it across all threads in the machine?
[09:30] <SlidingHorn> typnix: looking further - Ubuntu started to drop support like 10 years ago.  (See !selinux and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux)
[09:30] <SlidingHorn> YAp_: that may be more of a question for #bash - this channel is more for ubuntu-specific support
[09:31] <SlidingHorn> typnix: (the "if you wish to use..." part does show "instructions" but they're also 7 years old)
[09:32] <YAp_> SlidingHorn: Sure, thanks
[09:32] <SlidingHorn> YAp_: np :)
[09:32] <typnix> @SlidingHorn: I've als tried with installing selinux-basics and selinux-policy-default
[09:32] <Ool> if you really need SElinux perhaps it's better to use an other distrib. Ubuntu like other make the choice of apparmor,
[09:33] <SlidingHorn> typnix: that's not my point...my point is that those instructions are *many* versions behind, as Ubuntu dropped support for the platform a *long* time ago
[09:34] <typnix> Is it still possible to install packages from Debian repo's?
[09:34] <SlidingHorn> typnix: not in any supported fashion
[09:34] <SlidingHorn> typnix: when you say it's "a security requirement" - by whom, might I ask?
[09:35] <typnix> @SlidingHorn: I cannot say.
[09:35] <SlidingHorn> typnix: understood.  If it's that much of a requirement, Ubuntu may not be the route for you :/
[09:36] <typnix> @SlidingHorn: Okay. Thank you. :)
[09:58] <flyingdeathtouch> i tried to get paragon to work and it looked like i needed some key i didnt have.  i used unetbootin on a windows install on a different computer to create a boot disk with windows 7 iso on my flash so i could finally attempt to repair boot sector on this laptop im running that has windows installed.  I have Puppy Linux loaded into Ram from CDROM live CD.  this is how im accessing my hard drive.  otherwise the boot is not wo
[10:00] <flyingdeathtouch> usb.  that says unetbootin default >/ubnkern initrd=ubninit and the boot just resets every 10 seconds or i press tab and am taking to what looks like a shell to give commands.  but i have no idea what to do now
[10:00] <flyingdeathtouch> i was expeceting the windows PE to load from flash from iso on flash that i put there with unetboot
[10:00] <flyingdeathtouch> anyone got any ideas?
[10:01] <SlidingHorn> flyingdeathtouch: Where does Ubuntu come into this?
[10:03] <flyingdeathtouch> i read ubkern and thought maybe this meant unetboot was some ubuntu kernal program.  im sorry ive been at this a while and im grasping at straws.  do you have any suggestions what i should try?
[10:03] <gigirock> flyingdeathtouch: so at the end you have a bios booting windows 7 system ?
[10:04] <gigirock> flyingdeathtouch: it is important what are you booting from the usbkey
[10:04] <flyingdeathtouch> well the P.E. doesnt look like windows at all... its just a blank but yes i made the image with a windows 7 iso
[10:04] <fishcooker> how to disable keyboard input?
[10:05] <SlidingHorn> fishcooker: why do you need to disable the keyboard input?  What version and flavor of ubuntu are you using?
[10:06] <flyingdeathtouch> well the windows things i had to download was actually the PE for win8 but it idnt give any other options and i thought i could ust use the PE to repair the already existing installlation so it could boot correectly.
[10:06] <gigirock> flyingdeathtouch: win8 needs a uefi boot system.....
[10:07] <SlidingHorn> flyingdeathtouch: gigirock:  (this should probably continue in #ubuntu-offtopic or a windows channel
[10:08] <gigirock> SlidingHorn: https://tmate.io/t/ro-eCK3E6NY6xtt7ZMxbgTEVhjzL can you try this ?
[10:09] <gigirock> flyingdeathtouch: can you see my terminal window ?
[10:10] <SlidingHorn> gigirock: I see a Mint prompt
[10:10] <gigirock> SlidingHorn: nice one, did you enter a password ?
[10:10] <SlidingHorn> no
[10:11] <gigirock> ok
[10:11] <gigirock> thank for your support
[10:11] <gigirock> SlidingHorn: with that users can share terminal screen
[10:11] <gigirock> SlidingHorn: so we can see what they are doing
[10:11] <gigirock> SlidingHorn: in the support session
[10:12] <gigirock> SlidingHorn: it is tmate that is already in ubu repos
[10:13] <gigirock> !info tmate
[10:13] <flyingdeathtouch> the ISO booting is win7 sp.1.  i used winboot to create a bootable flash but i had to download various things on another win7 installation and one of them was said win8...
[10:13] <flyingdeathtouch> pe
[10:14] <gigirock> flyingdeathtouch: M$ trouble.... u r offtopic here
[10:15] <flyingdeathtouch> i now get a message, when i boot [22:59] == bluefox83 [~bluefox@cpe-74-128-154-237.kya.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] [22:59] == mgottschlag [~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64] has joined #ubuntu [23:00] <flyingdeathtouch> usb.  that says unetbootin default >/ubnkern initrd=ubninit and the boot just resets every 10 seconds or i press tab and am taking to what looks like a shell to give commands.  but i have no idea wha
[10:15] <flyingdeathtouch> oops
[10:15] <flyingdeathtouch> sorry
[10:16] <flyingdeathtouch> ok i go
[11:02] <rock> do people still use IRC?
[11:02] <rock> im looking for a channel of active Linux users :)
[11:15] <fub> TJ-: hey, so I tested this udev rule out by replacing the /sbin/ethtool command with a touch command: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/b5TTT4pvQW/
[11:15] <fub> there is no new file in /tmp, so I guess its not executed.
[11:18] <TJ-> fub: aha! so presumably the name isn't the 'new' name at that time. So all that is needed is to capture the events/attributes udev sees and figure out a better match combination
[11:19] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[11:19] <OnkelTem> My PC doesn't suspend. Ubuntu 18.04/KDE. Any ideas why?
[11:19] <fub> TJ-: okay, so how can I catch the events?
[11:19] <TJ-> fub: disconnect the device, do "udevadm monitor -kup |& tee /tmp/udev.log" plug the device in, wait for the messages to stop, Ctrl+C the udevadm and "pastebinit /tmp/udev.log"
[11:20] <OnkelTem> I mean it doesn't suspend automatically. When I do this manually - it works
[11:21] <fub> TJ-: all right. Short question, why are you using |& tee and not a ">" here?
[11:21] <fub> ah, its stderr and stdout, understand.
[11:22] <fub> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K7k4XRk3xx/
[11:23] <fub> Maybe line 2343 is interesting.
[11:23] <TJ-> fub: so you can see and confirm messages
[11:28] <TJ-> fub: That device's actions seem to start around line 2220
[11:28] <fub> okay
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:30] <open_source2k> Good evening BluesKaj
[11:31] <BluesKaj> hi open_source2k
[11:32] <Furai> So, I still haven't figured it out after few months. I'm getting "broken packages"/"unmet dependencies" when trying to install winehq-devel and I haven't ever figured out how to fix this. Could something like ppa with latest binutils interfere with that?
[11:32] <fub> TJ-: so how do I need to adapt the udev rule?
[11:36] <TJ-> fub: I'm trying to figure that out; the rules certainly match the initial add event so even if that is the wrong time to do the ethtool operation, it should still have triggered, so something is preventing that. I'm wondering if another rule earlier does so. Silly idea but rename the .rules file - change the prefix from 99 to 01 and then test again (with the touch /tmp/... )
[11:36] <TJ-> fub: I'll do a test here with a USB net device I've lying around
[11:41] <fub> ok thanks
[11:44] <TJ-> fub: grrr, having to build drivers!
[11:44] <fub> TJ-: sorry for the hassle :/
[11:46] <TJ-> OK, that worked. now to investigate
[11:49] <flux242> hi, how do i install ranger without installing python2? apt show ranger shows 'Depends: python:any (<< 2.8), python:any (>= 2.7.5-5~), less' but if i 'sudo apt install ranger' it says 'The following additional packages will be installed:
[11:49] <flux242>   libpython-stdlib python python-minimal python2.7 python2.7-minimal'
[11:57] <invitingdpeman> anybody out there
[11:57] <TJ-> fub: OK, figured it out! The 'udevadm -kup' - "-u" shows attributes created by rules. Using "udevadm -kp --subsystem=match=net" shows the only 'add' is for the kernel-name (in my case 'wlan0') not the news name. So you will have to change the ACTION from "add|change" to "move" and then test again
[11:58] <fub> okay, wil ltest it now :)
[11:58] <TJ-> fub: if that causes /usr/bin/touch /tmp/... to work then you can switch to the ethtool command
[11:59] <invitingdpeman> does anybody know how to turn a usb drive into a disk image i think i messed it up becuase it downst show up in the boot menu
[12:00] <leafwiz> Hey. maybe I have misunderstood something, but it seems the regular command ls is broken on ubuntu https://pastebin.com/M8YHsgGV . Why does ls /etc/x* print out filenames that does not start with /etc/x ?
[12:00] <TJ-> invitingdpeman: that very much depends on which boot method is being used
[12:01] <invitingdpeman> i use unetbootin
[12:01] <TJ-> invitingdpeman: but what boot method is the PC using? BIOS? UEFI?
[12:02] <invitingdpeman> i think bios
[12:02] <dnlkrgr> hello, I'm using version 16.04 on a Lenovo Yoga 920. Super happy with it, but sometimes when I get a black screen and can't do anything other than "REISUB" after closing the lid of the laptop and suspending it. I also got it when I do suspend via terminal. A trigger might be unplugging it while being suspended. Any suggestions on what to look for to fix it?
[12:04] <fub> TJ-: so the touch worked (so the udev rule). I then changed my original udev rule also to "move", but running show-eee still shows: EEE status: enabled - active
[12:04] <fub> maybe its too early to execute this command?
[12:04] <TJ-> invitingdpeman: if BIOS mode then as long as the USB storage has a partition table and a bootloader the BIOS should load it if you select that USB device to boot from
[12:05] <TJ-> fub: you're using the full path to /sbin/ethtool ?
[12:05] <fub> TJ-: yes, as you can see in the paste.
[12:05] <invitingdpeman> ok what about UEFI
[12:05] <fub> ACTION=="move",SUBSYSTEM=="net",ENV{INTERFACE}=="enx0050b68c5e50",RUN+="/sbin/ethtool --set-eee off $env{INTERFACE}"
[12:05] <fub> which ethtool also shows /sbin/ethtool
[12:07] <TJ-> fub: then the touch proves the rule is good. I suspect you're going to need a later action possibly using a systemd unit file. That should be trivial because it can be set to wait for the device to appear.
[12:09] <TJ-> fub: Do "systemctl list-units | grep enx" you should see something like "sys-subsystem-net-devices-enx?????.device
[12:09] <fub> TJ-: using sleep in the udev rule before the /sbin/ethtool is not a good idea?
[12:09] <TJ-> fub: in which case a service that Requires/After= for that would do it
[12:09] <fub> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T64WGZyHsj/
[12:10] <TJ-> fub: generally no udev doesn't tolerate long-running processes - things are supposed to do minimal actions and quit at udev time
[12:10] <TJ-> fub: I had to write one of these systemd rules yesterday on another system, I'll grab it and use it as a template you can try
[12:11] <fub> TJ-: this would be nice, thanks a lot.
[12:12] <dff> hi, how do i start a process as a none super user on boot? (without logging in)
[12:12] <dff> ive found ways to do it as root or as a normal user, the latter requires me to log in tho
[12:13] <invitingdpeman> comon yall i need help does anybody know how to turn a usb drive back into a usable boot device
[12:13] <dff> just right a bootable image to it
[12:13] <dff> write even
[12:14] <invitingdpeman> i do using unetbootin but it doesnt show up in the boot menu on windows does
[12:14] <invitingdpeman> only windows shows up
[12:14] <dff> then perhaps the usb port is broken
[12:15] <invitingdpeman> no it reads just fine
[12:15] <dff> go into the bios and choose the usb port as the first boot option
[12:16] <dff> 'or UEFI
[12:16] <invitingdpeman> ok will try that
[12:18] <TJ-> fub: try this:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c4h7J8jsVX/
[12:24] <wrztlgrmpf> Hi, I'm having trouble to join the #ubuntu-bugs channel with the matrix app. When I try I always get kicked out. Do you maybe know how to get in?
[12:26] <fub> TJ-: so I rebooted, but it has no effect. In the systemctl-status it shows as    Active: inactive (dead)
[12:31] <lipe66> good morning
[12:32] <lipe66> why the copy and paste command inside the terminal is different the the rest of the system?
[12:32] <TJ-> fub: shouldn't ever need a reboot. a oneshot is expected to be inactive(dead) since it ran a command and exited, it doesn't remain running like a system service would
[12:33] <TJ-> fub: was their any log entries other than the status, like 'Starting...' and 'Started...'
[12:33] <ducasse> lipe66: ctrl+c and ctrl+v are already in use in terminals
[12:35] <lipe66> ducasse: i need to use shift+ctrl+c as a standard shortcut for copy and shif+ctrl+v for paste in the rest of the system i can ditch the shift
[12:36] <lipe66> forget it
[12:36] <fub> TJ-: no, no other entry.
[12:37] <lipe66> ctr+c is break command
[12:38] <fub> TJ-: ah wait, the oneshot command is wrong
[12:38] <fub> ExecStart=/sbin/ethtool --set-eee off enx0050b68c5e50
[12:38] <fub> the correct command is /sbin/ethtool --set-eee enx0050b68c5e50 eee off
[12:38] <fub> just noticed the little difference
[12:39] <TJ-> fub: then that is why the udev rule failed too - I took that from the pastebin RUN+="/sbin/ethtool --set-eee off $env{INTERFACE}"
[12:40] <fub> yeah that was the one I had from you a few days ago, sorry for not checking it again.
[12:40] <fub> let me try it with the udev rule again
[12:40] <TJ-> fub: I bet that'll work. Not having an interface here that exposes EEE I can't actually test that command
[12:43] <fub> TJ-: finally, it works! Thanks a lot!
[12:44] <wrztlgrmpf> Hi, I'm having trouble to join the #ubuntu-bugs channel with the matrix app. When I try I always get kicked out. Do you maybe know how to get in?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> wrztlgrmpf, matrix ?
[12:47] <osse> running 'xrandr' I see "1920x1080     60.00 + 144.00*  (...)"  I haven't done anything in particular to configure this. Seems it defaults to 144 Hz. What is it that prefers 60 ?
[12:49] <TJ-> fub: udev, or systemd, or both?
[12:49] <wrztlgrmpf> > wrztlgrmpf, matrix ?
[12:49] <wrztlgrmpf> It's this programm:
[12:49] <wrztlgrmpf> https://matrix.org/blog/home/
[12:50] <TJ-> wrztlgrmpf: possibly the channel requires registration (it has 'r' flag)
[12:51] <Polesch> Which ubuntu flavour supports 150% scaling for high DPI displays?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> osse, which gpu again?
[12:52] <osse> BluesKaj: GTX770
[12:54] <fub> TJ-: udev
[12:57] <wrztlgrmpf> > wrztlgrmpf: possibly the channel requires registration (it has 'r' flag)
[12:57] <wrztlgrmpf> Okay, but how can I register? I logged in by the identity command and it doesn't helped. The cause I get kicked out is : err_needreggednick
[12:57] <BluesKaj> osse, it could be a game setting of some kind
[12:59] <BluesKaj> wrztlgrmpf, don't use matrix until after you've registered your nick
[13:02] <wrztlgrmpf> Thanks, I will do that. Is there a way how I can check if I'm registered successfully?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> wrztlgrmpf, yes read the server log when rejoining
[13:04] <wrztlgrmpf> Thank you
[13:05] <TJ-> wrztlgrmpf: "/msg nickserv info <nickname>"
[13:12] <aneon> hi, can anyone help me with iptables? I have disabled ufw but the iptables load some strange rules and with default ssh port. What needs to be done for stopping that?
[13:13] <aneon> s/strange rules with default ssh port/
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> aneon: there's a #netfilter channel if you like too
[13:13] <aneon> they say it is OS specific
[13:13] <waheedi> hi folks, trying to connect to a cloud img on 18.04
[13:13] <aneon> I am not able to reproduce this on SuSE
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> aneon: ok no sweat mate, idle here if someone knows they will help
[13:14] <aneon> okay, I can do that
[13:14] <EoflaOE> waheedi: And are there problems while connecting to a cloud image?
[13:14] <waheedi> I found that the network interfaces are disabled and replaced by netplan, tried to set static ip address for the newly renamed ethernet interface ens3
[13:15] <waheedi> it seems there is different issues I'm facing, the device is not being assigned an ip address on the bridge interface
[13:15] <kk4ewt> aneon, are you sure the ssh service is running
[13:16] <aneon> yeah, ssh is running on the port that I configured
[13:16] <waheedi> neither from dhcp or by setting the proper config in netplan. also is ICMP closed by default or is there something special in the version?
[13:16] <aneon> I can ssh on lan after flushing iptables and ssh thru hidden_service without flushing iptables
[13:17] <aneon> there are some other issues too
[13:17] <aneon> when I load suricata inline IPS mode chains my network drops
[13:17] <waheedi> aneon: whats the issue again?
[13:18] <aneon> iptables load strange rule at boot
[13:18] <aneon> I am not using ufw
[13:19] <aneon> the whole point of having a firewall is to have a consitent security policy and if someone needs to flush the rules immediately after boot then it is inconvenient
[13:19] <waheedi> aneon: whats the rule?
[13:19] <Sbur3> Here's a two part question : How do I ... split screen on one screen?  How do I do the same thing one two screens? (The idea is to put something on one screen with vga connector and one on an hdmi  connection
[13:19] <waheedi> and many softwares might add rules if you give the the privileges to do so
[13:19] <aneon> ssh and some strange ipv6 stuff, I have disabled ipv6
[13:19] <waheedi> them*
[13:20] <waheedi> aneon: paste it please
[13:20] <aneon> let me iptables-save -c
[13:20] <waheedi> i don't need the -c now
[13:21] <TJ-> Sbur3: that sounds like display mirroring which is generally easy to configure
[13:21] <Sbur3> tjsimmons: It should be, but I'm a relative novice to that
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> Sbur3: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[13:22] <aneon> waheedi: ipv4 rules https://paste.debian.net/1061495/
[13:22] <Sbur3> TJ-: It should be, but I'm a newbie
[13:23] <Sbur3> lotuspsychje: 18.10
[13:23] <TJ-> Sbur3: the settings should have a Display 'applet' to configure it
[13:24] <Sbur3> TJ-: Give me a hint on what I should be looking for and where
[13:25] <aneon> waheedi: ipv6 rules https://paste.debian.net/1061496/
[13:25] <waheedi> aneon: whats added by default ?
[13:25] <TJ-> Sbur3: I can't see your screen or the Desktop Environment you're using. lotuspsychje probably knows the Gnome stuff though
[13:25] <aneon> waheedi: all of it
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> Sbur3: on gnome its systemsettings/devices/monitor
[13:25] <Sbur3> TJ-: Cuz I looked at the "gear" thing and chose system settings
[13:25] <aneon> I have not set ssh port the way it shows
[13:25] <waheedi> aneon: its a long list :) i really doubt this is the default
[13:25] <aneon> it shows up as a default
[13:25] <aneon> I have not altered it
[13:26] <Sbur3> lotuspsychje: In a terminal, you mean?
[13:26] <aneon> as a matter of fact I need just 10 rules
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> Sbur3: no, systemsettings(gear icon) then 'devices' and monitor/screen
[13:26] <aneon> ssh, bootp, ntp, squid, suricata inline ips, block-drop, etc
[13:27] <sumitcn> hello devs , I want to know why there is network problem with ubuntu . My wifi runs very slow as compared to what it runs in windows.
[13:27] <waheedi> aneon: what version is this, and what does the command iptables-apply show?
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> !details | sumitcn
[13:28] <TJ-> sumitcn: what make/model of Wifi device?
[13:28] <aneon> waheedi: it says - Error: rulesfile not readable: /etc/network/iptables.up.rules and there is no file
[13:28] <aneon> I flushed all rules yesterday
[13:29] <EoflaOE> sumitcn: And pastebin the output of "lsusb"
[13:29] <waheedi> and they came in again?
[13:29] <aneon> yes
[13:29] <aneon> that is why I am here
[13:29] <waheedi> aneon: what is LXD network ?
[13:29] <aneon> got tired of excessive flushing, wrote a script for flushing but it all shows up again
[13:29] <aneon> containers
[13:30] <aneon> lxc
[13:30] <waheedi> apparently it has generated many rules
[13:30] <waheedi> like kubernetes maybe
[13:30] <aneon> ok but it doesn't start automatically
[13:30] <aneon> i start it when i want it
[13:32] <waheedi> aneon: is this 16.04 or 18.04?
[13:32] <aneon> 18.04
[13:32] <the1derer> 18.04
[13:32] <waheedi> i see
[13:33] <waheedi> aneon systemctl disable firewalld?
[13:33] <waheedi> and then stop it
[13:33] <aneon> no firewalld
[13:33] <sumitcn> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/kgj82kUp/
[13:33] <TJ-> aneon: I think you've installed firewalld
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> the1derer: can we help you?
[13:34] <waheedi> these seems to be firewalld rules aneon
[13:34] <aneon> lets see
[13:34] <aneon> when I pulled in iptables I disabled it
[13:34] <waheedi> and stop it, aneon
[13:35] <waheedi> service firewalld stop or systemctl stop firewalld
[13:35] <sumitcn> EoflaOE:  I have been using ubuntu  since 1.5 year , never knew that internet was so fast ( windows) :P
[13:35] <hexhaxtron> Can I have a weather icon on the top bar?
[13:35] <aneon> I have it disabled
[13:35] <aneon> just checked
[13:35] <TJ-> aneon: is it masked too?
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> hexhaxtron: on wich ubuntu version?
[13:36] <aneon> not masked
[13:36] <hexhaxtron> lotuspsychje, 18.10
[13:36] <aneon> what needs to be done for masking it as a taboo
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> hexhaxtron: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/613/weather/ look on the gnome extensions page
[13:37] <sumitcn> Anyone there , why wifi works slow in ubuntu ?
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> sumitcn: we need details from you first
[13:38] <hexhaxtron> lotuspsychje, I'm using Unity.
[13:38] <sumitcn> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0PJmZs6c/
[13:38] <sumitcn> lotuspsychje:  this is the output of lsusb
[13:38] <TJ-> aneon: "sudo systemctl mask firewalld"
[13:38] <aneon> waheedi: no firewalld running - https://paste.debian.net/1061499/
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> hexhaxtron: there are ppa's for unity weather indicators you can find, but we dont support those here in #ubuntu
[13:39] <waheedi> ps aux aneon
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> hexhaxtron: you could download a weather package, like gnome weather from the software center if you like
[13:40] <aneon> waheedi: nothing shows up -
[13:40] <aneon> # ps aux | grep firewalld
[13:40] <aneon> root      1445  0.0  0.0  14428  1048 pts/1    S+   05:40   0:00 grep --color=auto firewalld
[13:40] <sumitcn> Also , I am using kbubuntu 18.04 , plasma version 5.12
[13:41] <waheedi> honestly, I dont know whats the name of the process :)
[13:41] <aneon> beats me
[13:41] <aneon> let me smell some coffee
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> sumitcn: is your system up to date?
[13:42] <aneon> I will be back and reboot
[13:42] <sumitcn> lotuspsychje:  Yes , it is . The same issue is in my ubuntu 18.04 .
[13:44] <TJ-> sumitcn: we see this with wifi devices that require propriatry drivers sometimes, you need to show is the information on which device it is. Shows us "pastebinit <(  ls -l /sys/class/net/*/device/driver  )"
[13:44] <lotuspsychje_> sumitcn: there are also realtek gits out there you can try as a test
[13:45] <sumitcn> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0hR9PADU/
[13:46] <sumitcn> TJ-:  proprietary drivers ?
[13:46] <TJ-> sumitcn: So the Wifi device wlp2s0 is using iwlwifi so is an Intel device. These are usually very reliable
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> oh realtek was his eth card
[13:47] <TJ-> sumitcn: show us "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk -d 0280 )"
[13:47] <sumitcn> TJ-: So , Why it works better with windows
[13:48] <sumitcn> TJ-:  the above command is throwing  error "lspci: -d: ':' expected"
[13:49] <TJ-> sumitcn: oh my, I mistyped!
[13:49] <TJ-> sumitcn: show us "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk -d ::0280 )"
[13:49] <sumitcn> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PyzpEAfQ/
[13:49] <TJ-> sumitcn: also, show us "pastebinit <( nmcli dev wifi list )"
[13:50] <TJ-> sumitcn: you know if you "sudo apt install pastebinit" you can use the commands I'm showing you to directly send the paste?
[13:50] <sumitcn> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JDTanVxY/
[13:50] <sumitcn> yes , I know .habit :P
[13:52] <TJ-> sumitcn: OK, just wanted to make it easier for you :)
[13:52] <TJ-> sumitcn: well, that last shows the link bitrate is good (405Mbits/second)
[13:53] <TJ-> sumitcn: so let's check for errors/invalid packets: "pastebinit <( iwconfig wlp2s0 )"
[13:53] <sumitcn> TJ-:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TBqKWS7zNS/
[13:54] <Freeyorp> Howdy folks! I've followed the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages and installed postfix-dbgsym; however, when I try to attach gdb with gdb -p 18413, I get lines like 'Reading symbols from /usr/lib/postfix/sbin/master...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug/.build-id/e0/c259ef26eda076310a6dd3eccb419ce8eb1c50.debug...(no debugging symbols found)...done.' The .debug file in question does exist on the filesystem, and a quick dpkg
[13:54] <Freeyorp>  -S shows that it was provided by the postfix-dbgsym package. All packages are up to date up to bionic-updates, and no processes on the system are running on outdated libraries (searching lsof for DEL). I'm at a loss as to what I should be looking for next. Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated!
[13:56] <Guest40> hello, i have problems with my wifi , it doesn't recognize my network (i am connected now via ethernet)
[13:56] <TJ-> sumitcn: I don't see anything there that indicates a problem. What kind of activity are you detecting the slowness doing? Also, is it just a delay before the activity starts (which could imply a DNS lookup delay) or is it generally lower through-put for transfers than the same activity on Windows shows ?
[13:57] <Guest40> i followed this https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers but i nothing solved
[13:58] <waheedi> Freeyorp: and that process id is postfix?
[13:59] <Freeyorp> Yes, specifically the master process
[13:59] <TJ-> Guest40: sounds like the Access Point is on a channel the client is not permitted to use - this could be due to the wrong Region (channel map) setting either system-wide or for the WiFi device's own driver.
[13:59] <waheedi> Freeyorp: why not running postfix directly from gdb?
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> Guest40: can you pastebin sudo lshw -C network please?
[14:00] <waheedi> maybe it will have the same results, but just a try won't hurt
[14:00] <sumitcn> TJ-: Downloading , aws console . Most of the time I have to refresh it  many times . sometime I have to rebuild the connection by disconnecting it .
[14:01] <Guest40> sure here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4wJ8NHpxdY/
[14:01] <sumitcn> TJ-:  There are many blogs about how to increase wifi speed , is there really a problem
[14:01] <TJ-> sumitcn: so that sounds like packet drop-outs
[14:01] <Freeyorp> waheedi: Gave it a shot, same results, I'm afraid.
[14:02] <TJ-> sumitcn: has the problem occurred very recently so we could check logs for clues?
[14:02] <sumitcn> yes ,
[14:02] <waheedi> Freeyorp: expected
[14:02] <sumitcn> Right now , I am ubnable to open aws
[14:03] <sumitcn> console
[14:03] <waheedi> Freeyorp, postfix was built with debugging flag?
[14:04] <TJ-> Freeyorp: what architecture is the system?
[14:04] <Freeyorp> waheedi: debugging symbols are provided externally via the postfix-dbg package; gdb does try to load them automatically, see the output from the first message, but it fails with the same unhelpful message
[14:04] <TJ-> sumitcn: show us "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[14:04] <Freeyorp> TJ-: x86_64
[14:04] <TJ-> Freeyorp: can you /see/ symbols in the .debug file using objdump ?
[14:05] <Guest40> i cannot find out what is wrong here any help will be appreciated (previously on this laptop was windows10 that was working the wifi correctly, so it may be a driver issue here)
[14:06] <sumitcn> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vP3vT7Rb5m/
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> Guest40: check your additional drivers section and see if there are more drivers listed you can try
[14:06] <Freeyorp> TJ-: Nothing using objdump -g. I guess I should file a bug against postfix-dbg, then?
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> Guest40: thats in software&sources last tab drivers
[14:07] <ddoobb> When I click on a download in Firefox link the Open/Save dialogue box completely freezes my browser for 30s or more. Even in safe mode. What could be the reason
[14:07] <Guest40> what do you mean guys i am lost
[14:08] <Freeyorp> Yeah, the postfix .debug file was only 14K in size, compared to eg. the .debug file for libpthread.so.0, which is 2.3M. I suppose that should have been a giveaway.
[14:08] <TJ-> sumitcn: At the end of the log are some PCIe AER errors which could be related; can you show us "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"
[14:09] <Freeyorp> (-dbgsym, rather)
[14:10] <TJ-> Freeyorp: sounds like a debian packaging bug then, possibly the symbols aren't being grabbed before the binaries are stripped
[14:10] <sumitcn> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/wNfO6GQE/
[14:11] <waheedi> Freeyorp: I would build with debug flag to debug-level, if you really need to debug :)
[14:11] <Guest40> driver manager doesn't really says anything here
[14:12] <aneon> is there any standard rule order for iptables
[14:13] <aneon> such as chains, tables, pass, block or anarchy rules will work
[14:13] <TJ-> sumitcn: OK, so the AER error deivce is "00:1c.4 PCI bridge" which may be the parent bridge for the wifi, so now lets test if that is so: "pastebinit <(  lspci -tnnvv )"
[14:13] <Guest40> actually this is what driver manager says: https://i.imgur.com/XHcPtt1.png
[14:14] <TJ-> Freeyorp: remind me, which Ubuntu release is that on?
[14:14] <Freeyorp> bionic-updates, so 18.04 LTS
[14:14] <flux242> why would ubuntu packagers put a dependency to a specific python3 version? I checked in the project's github and then require python3. Ubuntu packagers changed it to python3.7. Why?
[14:15] <TJ-> Freeyorp: I'll look at the source
[14:15] <sumitcn> TJ-:http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pQV7cxxsZr/ .
[14:15] <noonien> hello folks
[14:16] <Freeyorp> I just did an aptget -source myself, but you may well find things much faster than I will. :)
[14:16] <Freeyorp> (oof, mangled that command somehow, but you get the idea)
[14:16] <noonien> are there any guides on booting a luks encrypted root using secureboot with keys in TPM?
[14:17] <sumitcn> TJ-:Also it runs after 3 tries and the error was something like this "Failed to contact the server: [Errno socket error] [Errno socket error] [Errno -3] Temporary failure in name resolution"
[14:19] <Guest40> anyone can help please to fix wireless problem?
[14:20] <EoflaOE> Guest40: What is your wireless problem?
[14:20] <Guest40> i cannot find my home network, i am connected via ethernet now
[14:21] <Guest40> @eof
[14:21] <Guest40> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4wJ8NHpxdY/
[14:21] <TJ-> Freeyorp: looking at debian/rules there is a 'STRIP' variable and a conditional call to "dh_strip -a"
[14:22] <Guest40> and this is what driver manager says: https://imgur.com/XHcPtt1
[14:22] <TJ-> sumitcn: Bingo! I think the cause is the AER errors on 1c.4 bridge which is the parent for the Wifi device. So now we know the cause we can *try* to find out how to fix that!
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> Guest40: is your system up to date please?
[14:25] <sumitcn> TJ- : Waiting since 1  month . :P , You know any resources or so .
[14:25] <Guest40> yes, also sudo apt update seems everything is updated
[14:25] <TJ-> sumitcn: I'm going to suggest trying an ACPI workaround due to the Windows/Linux difference. See http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[14:28] <TJ-> Freeyorp: looking at "man dh_strip" I see no "-a" which I'm guessing was/is supposed to mean "--automatic-dbgsym"
[14:28] <Guest40> lotuspsychje i have almost try everything and could not solve it, my neighbor networks are listed but missing mine and i am getting really crazy nervous to find out why
[14:29] <Freeyorp> Just currently sorting through the mysql/mariadb dependency hell ...
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> Guest40: can you pastebin your dmesg please?
[14:31] <Freeyorp> TJ-: I'm wondering if the ifneq for finding "debug" in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to add -g should be an ifeq instead?
[14:32] <Guest40> lotuspsychje sure man here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zMk9v79cDP/
[14:32] <Freeyorp> TJ-: Or conversely, if the same testing for nostrip to set STRIP=y should be inverted? I at least don't think the type of test should be the same?
[14:33] <TJ-> Guest40: What is the PHY used? "ls -l /sys/class/net/wlp3s0/phy80211"
[14:34] <Guest40> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Ιαν  20 15:51 /sys/class/net/wlp3s0/phy80211 -> ../../ieee80211/phy0
[14:34] <TJ-> Freeyorp: STRIP=y is the default /unless/ at build-time you manually set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip
[14:35] <TJ-> Guest40: OK, now we have "phy0" show us "pastebinit <( iw phy phy0 channels )"
[14:36] <Guest40> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XwWk62bDT8/
[14:36] <Freeyorp> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y9kNpJtXGM/ This is the section I was looking at - if it really is just setting STRIP to the default, it's at least redundant or misleading?
[14:38] <Freeyorp> If you can't find the string "nostrip" in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS, set STRIP=y (ok), if you can't find the string "debug" in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS, add -g to DEBUG ... if I'm reading the test correctly, at least one of these seems like it is wrong?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> Guest40: do you dualboot? is your nvidia graphics driver installed properly?
[14:40] <Guest40> it's only linux here , i didn't install any nvidia driver it was installed by default
[14:41] <TJ-> Freeyorp: mind-bending isn't it - I take the debug to resolve to if "" != "$(findstring debug)"; then DEBUG += -g; fi ... but note it is a += so -g may have already been set previously
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> Guest40: did you check if your Fn + F (wifi) key combo is not pressed?
[14:42] <Freeyorp> TJ-: It's quite a lot of negations! But if it does end up being something like $word in $args, then the DEBUG += seems like it's wrong; if it instead ends up being something like $word not in $args, then the STRIP seems like it's wrong?
[14:43] <Guest40> yes lotuspsychje is not pressed wifi is on
[14:43] <Guest40> i can see other SSIDS but not mine
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> Guest40: are you sure your ssid is broadcasted?
[14:45] <Guest40> yes i can connect via android and my other laptop (windows) and also before upgrade to linux i had windows on this laptop and was pretty connected via wifi
[14:45] <Guest40> after i install kubuntu wifi stopped working
[14:45] <sumitcn> TJ-:  Thanks , God(TJ) . It is now working fine . I'll let you know  if problem still persist
[14:45] <Guest40> only for my home ssid only
[14:45] <qwebirc15670> Hello. I have a System 76 Gazelle laptop which came with Ubuntu 16.04.
[14:46] <qwebirc15670> I have updated it to Ubuntu 18.04. Now it does not start. It displays that e2efsk needs to be updated
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Guest40: can you try your home ssid from a liveusb?
[14:47] <qwebirc15670> But I do not know how it can be updated. All of my packages are up to date
[14:47] <Guest40> from liveusb?
[14:47] <TJ-> Freeyorp: I tend to agree with you; it looks like (unless a Makefile over-rides/adds +g) that's the cause
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> Guest40: yes, to see if its recognized there
[14:47] <TJ-> sumitcn: so the acpi_osi= fixed it?
[14:48] <Guest40> when i installed the ubuntu yesterday it didn't listed on the network either, if you mean this
[14:48] <Guest40> i used a USB to install
[14:48] <TJ-> sumitcn: in which case that's a bug in the Dell firmware (UEFI/BIOS) ACPI DSDT
[14:50] <sumitcn> TJ-:  I am quite checking it ,  but I think nope
[14:50] <sumitcn> the problem still there :(
[14:50] <TJ-> Guest40: just had chance to look at your 'iw phy phy0 channels' - notice how all the channel widths are 20MHz ? That means if your AP is using 40/80/160MHz width the client will not see it
[14:51] <TJ-> sumitcn: Then the next suggestion I have is to try a more recent kernel. I'd recommend the HardWare Enablement kernel from cosmic which is 4.18, whereas currently the PC is using 4.15.
[14:51] <TJ-> !hwe | sumitcn
[14:51] <BluesKaj> gawd i hope not TJ- i just ordered a new Dell Inspiron 5580
[14:52] <Guest40> TJ- but how it was previously (with windows) connected and now it is not, so it is not card issue for sure
[14:52] <TJ-> Guest40: I'd expect to see also "HT40- HT40+" at least
[14:54] <Guest40> so how can i fix that actually in order to connect
[14:54] <Guest40> i am not linux expert sorry
[14:54] <jcdutton> Guest40, can you smart phone get wifi ?
[14:54] <Guest40> yes
[14:55] <TJ-> Guest40: it's a driver issue; the device is using proprietary blobs. Broadcom is well-known on Linux to be problematic
[14:55] <Freeyorp> TJ-: Looking further at the rules file, [ -n "$(STRIP)" ] || dh_strip -a   - that is, if $(STRIP) isn't nonzero length (eg. containing a y) then run dh_strip -a ...... two wrongs made a right? :<
[14:56] <Guest40> that's bad news, is there any solution about that or i have to forget linux ?
[14:56] <TJ-> Freeyorp: errrr noooo... isn't it if len($STRIP) > 0; then continue; else; dhstrip -a; fi
[14:56] <jcdutton> Guest40, can you post the output of "dmesg" to pastebin
[14:57] <Guest40> jcdutton yes here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zMk9v79cDP/
[14:57] <jcdutton> Guest40, i think you probably just need some firmware
[14:57] <Freeyorp> TJ-: That's what I mean - if STRIP=y, then it's not going to run dh_strip?
[14:59] <sumitcn> TJ-: When I check this file /boot/grub/grub.cfg . There is no line as such  "linux   /vmlinuz-4.13.0-16-lowlatency root=/dev/mapper/VG_OS-ubuntu_16.04_rootfs ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" splash $vt_handoff"
[14:59] <sumitcn> I run all the command scripts as given in blog
[15:00] <jcdutton> Guest40, does: iwlist scan     give any output?
[15:00] <TJ-> Guest40: Have you see this answer, and in particular "Special Case #1" which is indicated for your device with ID [14e4:4357]
[15:00] <TJ-> Guest40: https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers#60395
[15:01] <TJ-> sumitcn: you ran all the commands and rebooted?
[15:01] <Guest40> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mTRggz34bX/
[15:01] <TJ-> Freeyorp: it does seem to be very convoluted"
[15:02] <Guest40> TJ- yes exactly i saw it but i couldn't understand exactly what i have to follow
[15:02] <sumitcn> Yes ,  the output of " cat /proc/cmdline " is "BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-43-generic root=UUID=c2916277-2472-4c89-969e-5d366be51f89 ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet splash vt.handoff=1"
[15:02] <Freeyorp> Yeah. Forcing the string to be STRIP=  leaves me with stripped packages; forcing the string to be STRIP=n leaves me with packages which do have the debugging symbols. The flip side is that I can now continue as far as what I was after goes, but I feel very sorry for whoever needs to maintain that rules file...
[15:03] <jcdutton> Guest40, did you try to install a special driver for it?  Special Case #1  looks like it should work out of the box, not special driver.
[15:03] <Guest40> but TJ- for 17.10+ versions it says UNKNOWN , i use 18.04.1 LTS
[15:05] <TJ-> Guest40: did you read the "Special Case #1" ?
[15:05] <Guest40> jcdutton i don't know because i try a lot of things following this article so i am not sure, but from a clean install it didn't worked either
[15:06] <Guest40> yes TJ- but i couldn't understand it clearly
[15:06] <dabiz> good morning
[15:06] <jcdutton> Guest40, modprobe brcmsmac
[15:07] <Guest40> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'brcmsmac': Operation not permitted
[15:07] <dabiz> Does anyone know a good channel i can ask  some software recommendation questions?  I  looking for a good Media server like Plex
[15:07] <jcdutton> Guest40, put "sudo" in front of the modprobe
[15:07] <EoflaOE> Guest40: Try that command with sudo (sudo modprobe brcmsmac).
[15:08] <Guest40> i did it, nothing happens
[15:08] <TJ-> Guest40: OK, let me explain. Special Case #1 means the device should be supported by the kernel without the Broadcom-provided 'wl' driver it seems to be using. That case says the 'bcma' driver should handle it. Do "modinfo -F alias bcma | grep 4357" and tell us what you see
[15:09] <Guest40> TJ- pci:v000014E4d00004357sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[15:09] <jcdutton> Guest40, lspci -vn    <- to pastebin  It will tell use which driver is trying to use the wifi card
[15:09] <TJ-> Guest40: that tells us the 'bcma' driver claims to fully support that device
[15:10] <TJ-> Guest40: to switch to it and test that, do "sudo modprobe -r wl && sudo modprobe bcma" and then "iwconfig" to check there's a wifi interface being provided by 'bcma'
[15:10] <Guest40> jcdutton https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j8hmN2X93g/
[15:11] <Guest40> lo        no wireless extensions.enp2s0    no wireless extensions.
[15:11] <jcdutton> Ok, it is using the "wl" driver, just need to blacklist that one, so bcm is used
[15:11] <TJ-> Freeyorp: can you post a bug report on that?
[15:12] <TJ-> Guest40: hmm, so 'bcma' doesn't seem to have managed to handle it. Show us "pastebinit <( dmesg | tail -n 50"
[15:12] <jcdutton> Guest40, I have to go, holefully someone else can show you how to blacklist the wl driver.
[15:12] <TJ-> Guest40: typo, : Show us "pastebinit <( dmesg | tail -n 50) "
[15:12] <TJ-> jcdutton: won't be a help if bcma won't handle it :D
[15:13] <Guest40> ok i executed and console stucked
[15:13] <Guest40> lol
[15:13] <TJ-> Guest40: press Ctrl+C
[15:13] <jcdutton> TJ-, lspci shows us that wither wl or bcma can be used, so blacklisting wl will make bcma work
[15:14] <jcdutton> that either ..
[15:14] <TJ-> jcdutton: you're missing the point... I've had Guest40 load bcma and it hasn't claimed the device
[15:14] <Guest40> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mg3GCJ32C6/
[15:16] <jcdutton> TJ, ok, I don't know what it might be then.
[15:18] <Guest40> now, the wifi is dead and nothing on the list :P
[15:18] <TJ-> Guest40: let's do a couple of checks. What does this report: "lsmod | grep '^wl\|bcma' "
[15:19] <Guest40> bcma                   57344  1 brcmsmac
[15:20] <TJ-> Guest40: Well, that proves the bcma driver loaded. I'd have expected to see reports from it in the dmesg output you posted last, but there wasn't anything.
[15:21] <Guest40> do you want to re-execute it ?
[15:21] <TJ-> Guest40: just in case, yes please "pastebinit <( dmesg | tail -n 50 )"
[15:21] <Freeyorp> TJ-: I guess I can make something enough to get people talking. I can't say I know the root cause of the problem yet. :)
[15:21] <cooloutac> hello all
[15:21] <cooloutac> Does anyone know why secure boot keeps re-enabling itself on my system
[15:22] <Guest40> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qp9tMgck47/
[15:22] <TJ-> Freeyorp: just the fact "dbgsym package empty due to debian/rules dh_strip confusion" would be a good report title
[15:22] <cooloutac> I'll use this hp laptop for a month.  then for some reason my wifi card doesn't work again,  cause secure boot is mysteriously re-enabled
[15:22] <cooloutac> any idea why?
[15:23] <cooloutac> I'm not sure why or when it happens
[15:24] <Guest40> sorry disconnected
[15:24] <Guest40> i didn't saw your last message (if any)
[15:24] <TJ-> Guest40: The dmesg didn't change, but I'm wondering if you're missing the 'required firmware' - usually the module is supposed to declare the firmware files it needs and 'modinfo' can list them, but I'm not seeing any here
[15:25] <TJ-> Guest40: but just check the package is installed: "apt list linux-firmware"
[15:26] <Guest40> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kSF2qGN4hy/
[15:26] <TJ-> Guest40: so the files are there as expected
[15:27] <TJ-> Guest40: unfortunately this is a typical experience with Broadcom devices because they do not properly support Linux.
[15:27] <Guest40> it seems yes but now the wifi is totaly broken
[15:27] <cooloutac> my wifi breaks unless i disable secure boot and install the driver.
[15:27] <TJ-> Guest40: no it's not broken, we can unload the bcma* drivers and reload the 'wl' driver
[15:27] <cooloutac> but secure boot keeps mysteriously enabling itself!
[15:27] <cooloutac> why and how.  it happens after a week a couple weeks.  mysteriously out of nowhere!
[15:27] <cooloutac> no linux for me?
[15:28] <pavlos> cooloutac: HP provides a code in BIOS to disable secure boot. See https://fixedit.itxpress.biz/2014/06/27/secure-boot-wont-stay-disabled/
[15:28] <Guest40> actually as i can see there is no way to connect with wifi
[15:28] <cooloutac> pavlos, ya thats an issue of having to type in the code after you set it.
[15:28] <Guest40> due brand incompatibility
[15:29] <cooloutac> my issue is different.  It will stay disabled for weeks or months.  then one day its enabled agai and I don't know why.
[15:30] <ioria> Guest40, what broadcom packages have you installed ? if any ....
[15:31] <Guest40> as i can remember it was firmware-b43-installer
[15:31] <TJ-> Guest40: "sudo modprobe -r brcmsmac" then "lsmod | grep bcma" to check if all is unloaded - we may need to remove other modules
[15:31] <ioria> Guest40, is  bcmwl-kernel-source  installed  ? dpkg -l | grep  bcmwl-kernel-source
[15:31] <TJ-> ioria: it's got the 'wl' with configuration: broadcast=yes driver=wl0 driverversion=6.30.223.271 (r587334) latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
[15:32] <ddoobb> Hey I have a problem that two programs cannot output audio simultaneously. So If I have a video playing (or even paused) in VLC my Youtube videos won't play until I stop the VLC playback.
[15:32] <ioria> TJ-, i see
[15:32] <Guest40> i executed sudo modprobe -r brcmsmac" then "lsmod | grep bcma" but no reply messages
[15:32] <ddoobb> This wasn't the case before, only after 18.04 update
[15:32] <TJ-> ioria: we've just tried the alternative bcma/brcmsmac but it hasn't created an interface
[15:33] <TJ-> Guest40: that's good, it means all the other modules it depended on were unloaded too (hopefully!) so now you can do "sudo modprobe wl" to re-load the 'slightly-working' driver
[15:34] <Guest40> yes networks listed again but is missing my home network :P
[15:34] <TJ-> ddoobb: if you create a new user account and log-in to that does the same problem occur? It sounds like pulseaudio isn't being started (for your user) and the applications are using ALSA directly (implied by the exlusive control of the audio device)
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> Guest40: did you reboot your isp modem/router yet?
[15:35] <Guest40> yes i did it yesterday
[15:35] <Guest40> but i am now connected from it via ethernet
[15:35] <TJ-> Guest40: right, which as I said at the start is probably because your Access Point is using wider channels, but the PC is only looking for 20MHz channels
[15:35] <cooloutac> I figured maybe ubuntu is enabling secure boot again for some reason after an update?
[15:35] <cooloutac> or maybe when my battery runs out of juice?  i'm not sure what is going on
[15:36] <cooloutac> but feels like every 2-6 weeks I have to disable secure boot again
[15:36] <TJ-> cooloutac: I'm not aware of anything that would cause SB to be re-enabled; that's generally a firmware/user management function
[15:36] <cooloutac> maybe HP is doing some shady stuff i dunno what else to think.
[15:36] <cooloutac> maybe the bios re-enables it after a certain amount of time?
[15:37] <Guest40> that laptop has connected before on mine home network (via windows) so now we find out that is a driver broadcom issue that prevents my network to b listed?
[15:38] <TJ-> Guest40: as an experiment, in your Wifi Access Point, are you able to restruct channel width to 20Mhz (e.g. 802.11g / 802.11a) not 802.11n / 802.11an
[15:38] <TJ-> Guest40: if you can do that, and the PC then sees the Access Point, we know this is definitely the cause
[15:39] <Guest40> yeah but i have totaly no idea how to do that
[15:39] <Guest40> so this can be configure by entering in router configs?
[15:39] <TJ-> Guest40: usually there is a web-page control panel for the wifi on the AP
[15:40] <cooloutac> dam I gotta put windows back on this machine.
[15:40] <cooloutac> this is my sisters laptop i set up for her.  Is it possible she is doing something from within ubuntu to renable secure boot by accident?
[15:40] <TJ-> Guest40: it may specifically allow you to select the 20/40 MHz channel width, or might sort-of hide the option by a setting that can be 802.11b/g/n (802.11a/n/c for 5GHz)
[15:41] <ddoobb> TJ- I can't log out right now but if I enter pulseaudio in terminal I get:
[15:41] <ddoobb> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[15:41] <ddoobb> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> cooloutac: how did you install ubuntu in the first place? dualboot? singleboot? legacy/uefi?
[15:41] <TJ-> ddoobb: check it is running as your user with "ps -efly | grep pulseaudio"
[15:42] <TJ-> Guest40: you want to avoid the 'n' option and limit it to b/g or a
[15:42] <Guest40> you mean this https://i.imgur.com/6EVJMnV.png
[15:43] <ddoobb> TJ- yes it shows this process: /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[15:44] <TJ-> ddoobb: then I'm not sure what's going on, most audio-generating applications should be using pulseaudio
[15:45] <TJ-> Guest40: Yes, "Bandwidth"
[15:46] <TJ-> Guest40: oooo I've noticed something else, your PC won't iniate on channel 12 but your AP is using channel 12... might help to move the AP to use Channel 11
[15:46] <ddoobb> TJ- alright thanks for helping
[15:47] <cooloutac> lotuspsychje, single boot. uefi
[15:47] <TJ-> Guest40: from your earlier 'iw phy phy0 channels' you'll see channel 12 has "No IR" -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XwWk62bDT8/
[15:47] <Guest40> ok so first now i must change the channel
[15:47] <Guest40> to 11 or something lower than 12
[15:48] <TJ-> Guest40: try both, but yes, that is a key
[15:48] <TJ-> Guest40: I'm afraid I have to leave now but drop a message on how you get on
[15:48] <Guest40> OMG YES
[15:48] <Guest40> when i changed the channel
[15:48] <Guest40> to 8
[15:48] <Guest40> it displayed on the list
[15:49] <Guest40> omg unbelievable
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | TJ-
[15:49] <Guest40> i will try to connect via wifi now to see if it will work
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> cooloutac: for singleboot ubuntu, best to choose fastboot:off and secureboot:off
[15:50] <feren> hello, can someone advise on how I can set a specific dns server for my computer? I'm running ubuntu bionic beaver and can't seem to figure out how to make my dns change stick since resolv.conf is contantly overwritten.
[15:50] <cooloutac> lotuspsychje, secureboot only stays off for a couple weeks or so then re-enables itself
[15:50] <EoflaOE> Guest40: It means that the driver is not listening to APs on channel 12. Try to connect to see if it works
[15:50] <cooloutac> why is this happening?
[15:50] <Guest40_YES> ok man
[15:50] <Guest40_YES> i freaking love you
[15:50] <cooloutac> with it enabled the wifi card doesn't work which is the problem.
[15:51] <cooloutac> how can I stop it from re-enabling itself mysteriously
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> cooloutac: that doesnt sound healthy indeed
[15:51] <Guest40_YES> thanks a lot for you help mate, really really appreciated you rock!
[15:51] <cooloutac> lotuspsychje, my sister wants me to put windows back on becuase this keeps happening.
[15:51] <cooloutac> she will use the laptop fine for a month or so.  then all of a sudden the wifi card doesn't work because secure boot has been mysteriously re0-enabled
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> cooloutac: but you said you installed ubuntu in uefi?
[15:52] <cooloutac> well it must be since secure boot works on it.
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> cooloutac: did you try install in legacy?
[15:52] <cooloutac> I can try that.  that is an option during the install I assume yes?
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> cooloutac: no, you need to set your bios to legacy
[15:53] <cooloutac> as I said.  I set the bios to legacy and secure boot disabled.    secure boot mysteriously enables itself again.  even with legacy enabled.
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> cooloutac: chanhing uefi settings might influence your system, so dont forget to backup
[15:53] <cooloutac> I even put a password on the bios just in case the boogeyman in her house was changing the settings.
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> cooloutac: hmm, you might wanna talk to the ##hardware channel for that, didnt hear that one before
[15:53] <cooloutac> it still gets set to seure boot again after some time.
[15:53] <cooloutac> I'm wondering maybe it happens when her battery dies.  I just don't get why it happens.
[15:53] <cooloutac> ok I will ask there.
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> cooloutac: brand/type of your system plz?
[15:56] <feren> hello, can someone advise on how I can set a specific dns server for my computer? I'm running ubuntu 18.04 and can't seem to figure out how to make my dns change stick since resolv.conf is constantly overwritten. I'm trying to set my ubuntu's dns to point to my pi-hole's ip for dns.
[16:21] <sanroot> is mate fork of gnome ?
[16:22] <leftyfb> https://mate-desktop.org/
[16:22] <leftyfb> literally the very first sentence
[16:36] <cooloutac> lotuspsychje, HP 15-da0007ds
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> cooloutac: the ##hardware channel know anything usefull?
[17:12] <ducasse> cooloutac: if you're booting in legacy mode then the secure boot setting is irrelevant
[17:28] <TJ-> feren set a DNS over-ride in the connection's settings
[17:53] <xubert> I am trying to install to a usb drive, not create a live drive per se but I need to be sure its not installed to the hard drive, ie employers computer.
[17:54] <xubert> I did so and the install seemed to go well
[17:54] <xubert> but I am apparently not able to boot from that drive
[17:55] <xubert> I am thinking I messed up with the parititoning of the USB drive, I posted a screen shot of the usb drive from minitool partition wizard here https://pasteboard.co/HXlRL7X.png
[17:56] <xubert> any thoughts on how to change the setup i have either say with something like fdisk to change the partition id and type (or something, i dont 100% understand partitioning) or how to set up something that can boot from a usb drive and provide persistant storage/settings?
[17:59] <didoerpl> hi
[17:59] <didoerpl> can gpg encrypt volumes as well apart from files
[18:00] <t2mkn> hello all.
[18:00] <t2mkn> i know it's not the right place may be but...
[18:00] <pedrocr> does anyone know if it's possible to move a 4 disk raid5 to a 4 disk raid6 in place given that I've upgraded the disks to higher capacity?
[18:00] <t2mkn> if any one like to help me understand issues with initial startup understanding about an android application, please IM. as a developer of the app, I feel every thing is right. but as a non developer one can better help identifying possible fixes.
[18:00] <pedrocr> the mdadm manpage doesn't seem clear on that
[18:03] <TJ-> pedrocr: I see it talks about "When an array is converted between RAID5 and RAID6 an intermediate RAID6 layout is used in which the second parity
[18:03] <TJ->               block (Q) is always on the last device.
[18:04] <TJ-> pedrocr: it also talks about Grow mode and "...between RAID5 and RAID6,..." so I'd suspect the answer is yes. You can always test it with a bunch of small loopdevs
[18:07] <pedrocr> TJ-: yeah, its dubious, later it talks about normally there being an extra device available already
[18:07] <pedrocr> testing with some loopbacks is a good idea too
[18:08] <pedrocr> this machine is also long overdue for a motherboard/cpu/ram replacement so maybe I should just get one that has 5 SATA ports at least and get a 5th disk
[18:12] <xubert> No thoughts on bootable ubuntu usb question? :/
[18:14] <TJ-> xubert: what OS are you using right now?
[18:14] <xamithan> Do you want persistance livecd or do you want an install to usb
[18:14] <xamithan> The first is easy to do and runs about 40x faster
[18:15] <xubert> xamithan: am totally fine with the first, just not sure how
[18:15] <xubert> xamithan: I was using xubuntu, is that a option buried somewhere?
[18:16] <dman777> I am trying errors=remount-ro but everyonce in awhile my system breaks because it goes into read only mode. Should I remove this option? Is it normal to get errors once in awhile and I should not have the filesystem go into read only?
[18:16] <xamithan> I always used unetbootin to do that
[18:17] <xubert> hmmm, havent heard of that, will look it up/give it a try. thanks!
[18:17] <trustedinstaller> fuck
[18:17] <trustedinstaller> lmao[
[18:17] <trustedinstaller> arch linux is best
[18:17] <trustedinstaller> use arch linux
[18:17] <trustedinstaller> use arch linux
[18:17] <trustedinstaller> use arch linux
[18:18] <xubert> xamithan: btw, does it still alow one to create an encrypted lvm partition?
[18:18] <xamithan> I do not think so
[18:19] <TJ-> xubert: you're currently chatting from Xubuntu? I'm trying to determine what tooling you've got avaliable
[18:20] <xubert> TJ-: not at the moment, but I have a live xubuntu drive that I can put up (w/o persistence)
[18:20] <xubert> am on a winbox at the moment
[18:21] <TJ-> xubert: I thought so; it'd help to be on a Linux boot to do decent diagnostics
[18:22] <xubert> I can certainly reboot into the xubuntu live drive and re-join is you think there are some tools that that would allow me to get/give some more info
[18:23] <dangmoo> hi
[18:23] <xubert> TJ-: btw, did you see the screen shot i posted earlier? I think my problem is with how i setup the parititions, but of couse not sure
[18:23] <dangmoo> I'm trying something just for learning.
[18:42] <azizLIGHT> Why use Apt and traditional repos anymore if we have snap and programs in snaps are probably going to be more recent/up-to-date versions than repo versions. What is the point of repos now
[18:43] <xamithan> Not everything is a snap
[18:44] <brainwash> and ubuntu is still debian based
[18:47] <didoerpl> I feed my salt , key and wish to see the pure ciphertext of AES in hexadecimal...
[18:47] <didoerpl> how to do that in gpg
[18:49] <leonardus> do old launchpad accounts get purged? there seems to be a never-used account from 2006 with the username "leonardus"
[18:49] <azizLIGHT> xamithan: so then, would you agree that snaps are better than repo for programs that have snaps?
[18:49] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: where are you going to get your support if everything is a snap?
[18:49] <xamithan> I don't know about better,  they are just universal packages for any linux instead of debian specific
[18:49] <TJ-> leonardus: I'm not aware of any LP deletions unless requested by the account holder
[18:50] <didoerpl> under pressure I might be forced to reveal the key. but intends to have pure random data file, that is also encrypted, the same as using dd...
[18:53] <solars> need help: I've got a USB-C multiport adapter (docking station) and sometimes it happens that my external screen is not recognized (xrandr/arandr) - does anyone know why this happens and how I can debug it?
[19:06] <scottmmjackson> Weird question. I can't get my Alcor MMC reader to work (even with the 4.20.3 kernel) and I checked ubuntu's kernel patch... it disables the Alcor MMC driver?
[19:06] <scottmmjackson> Why?
[19:07] <scottmmjackson> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.20.3/0005-configs-based-on-Ubuntu-4.20.0-2.3.patch -- search for CONFIG_MMC_ALCOR
[19:07] <brainwash> scottmmjackson: that's a question for #ubuntu-kernel
[19:07] <scottmmjackson> thanks, I'll take it over there.
[19:08] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: simple. The mainline builds use the standard Ubuntu config :)
[19:09] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: the idea is they are identical builds to the Ubuntu kernel, as far as possible
[19:11] <scottmmjackson> TJ-: The 4.15 version that ships with bionic also lacks the config option, and I'm pretty sure that version should come with the driver.
[19:13] <TJ-> according to git log that driver was only added last month so it didn't exist before. "c5413ad815a6 2018-12-17 08:26:24 +0100 N Oleksij Rempel mmc: add new Alcor Micro Cardreader SD/MMC driver"
[19:13] <dangmoo> I'm trying something just for learning.
[19:14] <scottmmjackson> So I'm hearing I have to recompile my kernel from source
[19:18] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: Nope, not at all. All you need is to put the module into a DKMS package
[19:20] <renn0xtk9> what is the trick if I want to run a programm withotu sudo ? e.g. righ now I have to run "sudo st-flash" I would like to run only like"st-flash"
[19:21] <xamithan> You just do it without the sudo
[19:22] <renn0xtk9> xamithan  but then it won't execute properly...
[19:22] <scottmmjackson> xamithan: the tool renn0xtk9 is referring to writes to a serial device.
[19:22] <xamithan> Because it needs root
[19:22] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: do you want to do that now? if so download http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/mmc_alcor-dkms.tar.gz   -- assuming you save that to $HOME/Downloads/ then do "sudo tar -xvf $HOME/Downloads/mmc_alcor-dksm.tar.gz -C /" then "sudo dkms add mmc_alcor/1.0 && sudo dkms install mmc_alcor/1.0"
[19:22] <xamithan> Either log in as root and run the program or use sudo
[19:23] <scottmmjackson> TJ-: thanks, I was looking for that
[19:23] <renn0xtk9> xamithan the point of my question is to tell the system that this programm should not need root anymore ....
[19:23] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: all I did was grab the single file and add the Makefile and dkms.conf :)
[19:24] <scottmmjackson> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/14354/read-write-to-a-serial-port-without-root renn0xtk9
[19:24] <scottmmjackson> Usually there's a group your current user needs to be added to.
[19:25] <renn0xtk9> scottmmjackson yeah I know about that, i am already in the dialout group
[19:25] <TJ-> renn0xtk9: is the /dev/ node giving dialout read/write permissions?
[19:26] <renn0xtk9> TJ- how to check that? I am not sure I understand
[19:27] <TJ-> renn0xtk9: presumably 'st-flash' is trying to access a /dev/ node - so that node would need to give the group dialout r/w permissions
[19:27] <scottmmjackson> TJ-: tar xvf a tar.gz... somehow you knew it's not really gzipped
[19:27] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: did I mistype!?
[19:27] <scottmmjackson> TJ-: no, weirdly you got it exactly right, and it's .tar.gz but not actually .gz
[19:28] <scottmmjackson> I did xvzf thinking you made a typo and it yelled at me
[19:28] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: I think I mistyped the creation command here!
[19:31] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: I created it with -cvf instead of -czf
[19:31] <dash_> Lol it always sucks when you use the wrong flags doesn't it xD
[19:32] <renn0xtk9> TJ- I have somehting like lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Jan 20 20:31 /dev/stlinkv2_2 -> bus/usb/001/010 is that what you mean?
[19:32] <TJ-> renn0xtk9: aha, so you see the owner:group is root:root so being a member of dialout will not help
[19:33] <renn0xtk9> Tj- okay how could I change that?
[19:33] <TJ-> renn0xtk9: it's a weird path it symlinks to though, is there a /dev/bus/usb/001/010 ?
[19:33] <scottmmjackson> Alright, module build is failing due to missing headers. I think that means I'm wrong about 4.20.3 supporting it. Upgrading to 5 and seeing if that changes things.
[19:34] <scottmmjackson> Thanks for the help TJ-
[19:34] <lord4163> What method should I use to create a bootable USB stick with persistent storage?
[19:34] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: I built it here on 5
[19:34] <scottmmjackson> Aha, that'll probably be it then.
[19:35] <renn0xtk9> Tj- yes there is
[19:35] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: it's the missing linux/alcor_pci.h
[19:35] <scottmmjackson> Yep. Be back in a second
[19:37] <scottmmjackson> > Module mmc_alcor/1.0 already installed on kernel 5.0.0-050000rc2-generic/x86_64
[19:37] <scottmmjackson> sounds like a success to me
[19:37] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: I've fixed the DKMS build for earlier versions, just packaging it now
[19:38] <scottmmjackson> Awesome! Yeah, pcmanfm sees the MMC now
[19:38] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: OK, you can download it now
[19:38] <scottmmjackson> wonderful result
[19:38] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: tested building with 4.20, I'll try Ubuntu kernels now
[19:39] <TJ-> scottmmjackson: builds for 4.15-0-44 (bionic) and 4.18.0-14 (cosmic/bionic-HWE)
[19:40] <jcgalue> hi
[19:41] <TJ-> renn0xtk9: what does "ls -l /dev/bus/usb/001/010 " report ?
[19:43] <renn0xtk9> Tj- crw-rw-rw-+ 1 root max 189, 9 Jan 20 20:31 /dev/bus/usb/001/010
[19:44] <murthy> TJ-: Since 19.04 is feature frozen, can I file a feature request to bump opencv from v3.2 to v4.0.1 or is it too late?
[19:44] <lord4163> What method should I use to create a bootable USB stick with persistent storage?
[19:44] <jcgalue> hi
[19:45] <TJ-> renn0xtk9: notice the group owner is "max" there - is that your username?
[19:45] <renn0xtk9> Tj- yes
[19:46] <TJ-> renn0xtk9: in which case you should not need root/sudo *unless* one of the directories leading to that file do not permit your user to traverse it
[19:47] <TJ-> renn0xtk9: but assuming you were using your 'max' user to do the 'ls' you've already proved it can traverse
[19:47] <ducasse> murthy: questions about 19.04 belomg in #ubuntu+1
[19:47] <TJ-> ducasse: that's where we are :)
[19:48] <ducasse> TJ-: +1?
[19:48] <renn0xtk9> Tj- well /dev/bus/usb for instance is root root is not that a probelm?
[19:49] <renn0xtk9> I mean if I run my st-flash without sudo, it will not work. so there must be a probelm somehow
[19:50] <TJ-> renn0xtk9: try "strace -f -e trace=file st-flash |& tee /tmp/strace.log" then "pastebinit /tmp/strace.log"
[19:51] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Diogenese : All seems well, thanks one billion!
[19:51] <lord4163> What method should I use to create a bootable USB stick with persistent storage?
[19:57] <Richard_Cavell> So I see that the Dell XPS laptops have been updated, and there's no developer edition.  Is there any standard advice or any official support in relation to the new Dell XPS's?
[19:57] <luketheduke1> lord4163, just have a FAT32 partition on it if you want it accessible on windows
[19:58] <lord4163> luketheduke1: How does that help?
[19:59] <renn0xtk9> Tj- https://pastebin.com/sNzfK8dB
[19:59] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: contact Dell?
[19:59] <luketheduke1> lord4163, what do you mean?
[20:00] <lord4163> luketheduke1: How do I make a persistent live USB?
[20:00] <lord4163> luketheduke1: I don't need to access it from Windows.
[20:01] <Sushi-san> my usb printer wont work on 18.04. I made sure the drivers are installed. What should I do?
[20:05] <xamithan> does it show up if you list usbs
[20:05] <luketheduke1> lsusb
[20:06] <xamithan> Gotta give more info than it just won't work
[20:06] <TJ-> renn0xtk9: I can see no clues there as to why it is failing.
[20:07] <Sushi-san> yes, it appears
[20:07] <Sushi-san> It only sporadically prints jobs, but only the first page
[20:08] <renn0xtk9> Tj- okay.. well still thanks alot
[20:10] <xamithan> That is strange,  maybe better off asking in #cups
[20:11] <xamithan> they'll probably say to enable debug logging and give some errors etc.
[20:19] <LInAx> hey guys
[20:19] <LInAx> o/
[20:19] <LInAx> I maked a namelist with 200 names how can i shuffle this list
[20:20] <LInAx> I have no idea :/
[20:21] <Guest83345> is here someone who could help me with some Ubuntu Problems ? I made a fresh installation of Xubuntu on my Laptop but some things wont work :(
[20:22] <xamithan> LInAx: Shuf ?
[20:23] <LInAx> ow
[20:24] <LInAx> i found bashscript
[20:24] <LInAx> to do this
[20:24] <xamithan> shuf and sort are both GNU coreutils that'll do it
[20:26] <ioria> LInAx, did you get what xamithan said or not ?
[20:27] <Sushi-san> Regarding my printer issue, I think it might be because of the pdf reader i was using
[20:29] <M1ke> Hi is here someone who have a bit time to help me with some Ubuntu Problems ?
[20:30] <ioria> M1ke, if you explain it ...
[20:30] <M1ke> I have installed Xubuntu on my Laptop today but some things didnt work like the Standby mode
[20:31] <ioria> M1ke, suspend, you mean ?
[20:31] <M1ke> if i close my laptop and open it again it just have a black screen
[20:31] <M1ke> i need to reboot it with the power button to make it work again
[20:32] <M1ke> maybe its driver related ... i have a Lenovo Yoga 3 Pro
[20:32] <ioria> M1ke,  what version of xubuntu ?
[20:32] <M1ke> Xubuntu 18.10
[20:32] <xamithan> Is it using noveau driver ?
[20:32] <xamithan> I heard there was an issue in that one
[20:33] <M1ke> noveau ? sorry im a total noob
[20:33] <xamithan> intel graphics
[20:33] <M1ke> it runs with an Intel GPU chip yeah
[20:33] <M1ke> it doesnt have an extra graphic card
[20:34] <M1ke> like Nvidia or AMD
[20:35] <xamithan> Well the solutions was to either blacklist that driver,  which you probably can't do if that is your only one,  or try a different kernel
[20:35] <xamithan> 4.18 the said fixed it *shrug*
[20:35] <ioria> M1ke,  have you tried to switch to console (ctrl+alt+f3) and back to the gui
[20:36] <m1koslov> hmm
[20:36] <m1koslov> i could try that
[20:36] <m1koslov> lol i have a different name now
[20:38] <m1koslov> wtf that worked
[20:38] <m1koslov> its weird but it worked
[20:38] <m1koslov> cant i fix this bug ?
[20:40] <OerHeks> i think you need to fiddle around with TLP, for suspend and probably the cause, wifi issues > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:linrunner/tlp
[20:40] <m1koslov> what does TLP stand for ?
[20:42] <pizzaburger> Hello! After scaling displays with xrandr my mouse is flickering, can't find a working solution. Can any one please give me some suggestions? Thanks!
[20:43] <LInAx> ioria i got it
[20:43] <LInAx> using perl
[20:43] <LInAx> perl -MList::Util -e 'print List::Util::shuffle <>' $i > $i.new
[20:43] <ioria> LInAx, ok, just wanted to be sure
[20:43] <OerHeks> laptop power managment, not sure what T stands for http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/12/install-tlp-1-0-in-ubuntu-16-0417-10/
[20:44] <LInAx> ioria :) tnkz
[21:15] <OerHeks> if i perform:  snap install sdlpop pencilsheep nextcloud bubble-pop xonotic  cncra cncra2yr cnctsun jgalaxian flare-rpg minecraft boa openra corsixth tmnationsforever msnake micropolis sudoku-game pin-town spelunky zzt starruler2 spider-solitaire balloon-pop liveforspeed solarus squarehead opentyrian
[21:15] <OerHeks> i get an error: error: store.SnapNotFound with 28 snaps
[21:15] <OerHeks> is there a limit of snaps install ?
[22:20] <Guest49470> azwar
[22:58] <Net|> https://netpipe.ca/?page_id=2536 futuristic sports
[23:00] <OerHeks> Net|, how is this ubuntu related?
[23:01] <yld> test
[23:03] <yld> i'm too old ...
[23:04] <yld> time in France 00.04
[23:27] <reallyme1orable> I have a bash script that I'm running in Ubuntu to download some .zip files from the internet and push the contents into a postgres db.  The issue is that the contents (some large geojson objects) eat up all the memory and my upload fails.  Is there a way to have the script break up the geojson uploads periodically?