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[12:36] <Unlimiter> Is it possible to create a new type of file that does different behavior and has different properties?
[12:37] <diogenes_> ?
[12:37] <Unlimiter> like, creating a special type of file
[12:38] <Unlimiter> that gets treated uniquely by the sys
[12:38] <diogenes_> example?
[12:39] <Unlimiter> like the /dev/zero or /dev/null
[12:39] <Unlimiter> files
[12:39] <Unlimiter> like directories
[12:39] <Unlimiter> executables
[12:39] <Unlimiter> each one is treated differently
[12:39] <Unlimiter> by the system
[12:39] <diogenes_> hmm no clue
[16:15] <xubert> I tried to *install* xubuntu to a USB drive so I could have "live persistent" installation, but I would only use it on my work computer, which I am not allowed to install anything on.
[16:16] <xubert> I used LVM, a configuration similar to http://www.techoism.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/lsblk-1.png
[16:17] <xubert> I set the installation to put /boot on the usb drive and the usb drive to be bootable? (I cant remember the options exact wording) and the installation seemed to go ok
[16:17] <xubert> problem is, it wont boot. Is there some way I can use fdisk or something to make this usb drive boot?
[16:32] <brainwash> xubert: it won't boot or is not detected at all during boot?
[17:43] <xubert> brainwash: well, when I go to the computer boot menu it sees the drive, but I select the drive and it does nothing.
[17:44] <brainwash> xubert: no hints?
[17:44] <brainwash> just a black screen?
[17:44] <xubert> brainwash: whereas if i use a regular "vanilla" kubuntu it sees the drive and boots just fine
[17:45] <xubert> brainwash: but yeah, when I try to other one I made it just blinks and goes back to the bios boot menu
[17:45] <xubert> no, no hanging or black screen per se it like i am trying to boot from something unbootable and it bounces me back to the bios boot menu
[17:46] <xubert> I'm on a win machine now but downloaded this free partition wizard jsut so i could look at my "setup"
[17:46] <brainwash> not really sure where to go from there
[17:47] <brainwash> without any useful hint
[17:47] <xubert> it seems that the usb drive id is not boot and the partitions are gpt (as opposed to primary... though i am not wholly sure what that means)
[17:47] <xubert> nope, no hints no errors etc
[17:47] <brainwash> I suggest asking in #ubuntu
[17:48] <xubert> i got more from using the partition program to look at it than i did from feedback/hints/errors trying to boot
[17:49] <xubert> ah ok, will head over there and see if they have any thoughts. perhaps if i take a screen shot of what hte parition program is showing me that will give a bit more helpful info to someone who knows what they are talking about... cause I certainly dont :)
[19:04] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Hello! I need help with a display issue. For no reason the windows do not have the upper right hand corners controls (maximize / minimize). Does not show desktop 'in back of' windows either.
[19:06] <diogenes_> rabbit-in-the-ti, but does it have the decorations? around windows?
[19:07] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Hello diogenes. (We have met before). No decorations either before or now. Or I do not know what is a decoration.
[19:08] <rabbit-in-the-ti> It does properly show the toolbars at top.
[19:08] <diogenes_> gotta screenshot?
[19:09] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Working on it.
[19:17] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Sorry Diogenes. Either I have forgotten how to use Ubuntu Pastebin or there is otherwise something wrong. I copy my screenshot to the clipboard (or save to desktop) but nothing seems to happen when I click paste.
[19:18] <diogenes_> rabbit-in-the-ti, upload it to imgur.com
[19:19] <rabbit-in-the-ti> OK.
[19:20] <rabbit-in-the-ti> https://imgur.com/a/4QispL6
[19:21] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Try that.
[19:24] <diogenes_> ok
[19:24] <diogenes_> you got no decorations at all
[19:24] <rabbit-in-the-ti> I guess not.
[19:24] <diogenes_> what distro and window manager you're using
[19:25] <rabbit-in-the-ti> distro 14.04 (I think it was you who helped me get from 16 point something down here due to the paltry resources of my old laptop. Where do I find the windows manager name/number?
[19:26] <rabbit-in-the-ti> 14.04 is Xubuntu
[19:26] <diogenes_> rabbit-in-the-ti, run in terminal: xfwm4 --replace
[19:30] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Sorry, xfwm4 --replace goes nowhere...however, I do have the window manager open from the whisker menu... I think it is  xfce » xfwm4 » 4.10
[19:31] <diogenes_> rabbit-in-the-ti, what happened when you typed in terminal: xfwm4 --replace and hit enter?
[19:31] <rabbit-in-the-ti> By goes nowhere I mean, it made the display flash very briefly, and then nothing after in the terminal.
[19:31] <diogenes_> but did the decorations appear?
[19:32] <rabbit-in-the-ti> YESS!! Thank you!
[19:33] <diogenes_> :) that's not the end of the story
[19:33] <diogenes_> i'll give you some more commands
[19:33] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Now the desktop appears properly behind the windows also. Your commands are my wish!
[19:33] <rabbit-in-the-ti> (Ready)
[19:34] <diogenes_> run: cat  ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:34] <diogenes_> you gonna get a link in terminal
[19:34] <diogenes_> share that link here
[19:35] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Can I copy this command? (I am a notoriously bad typer. Control + c?
[19:36] <diogenes_> ctrl+_alt+c
[19:36] <diogenes_> i mean
[19:36] <diogenes_> ctrl+alt+v to paste
[19:36] <diogenes_> but copy with ctrl+v
[19:36] <diogenes_> dammin
[19:36] <diogenes_> ctrl+c
[19:37] <diogenes_> to paste to terminal you hit: ctrl+shift+v
[19:38] <diogenes_> to copy from terminal: ctrl+shift+c
[19:38] <rabbit-in-the-ti> https://termbin.com/v0o1
[19:39] <diogenes_> now run: cp /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml
[19:40] <diogenes_> tell me when done
[19:41] <rabbit-in-the-ti> I get nothing. Did I not put the proper space before the command?
[19:42] <diogenes_> you got nothing it means the command went ok
[19:42] <diogenes_> with no errors
[19:42] <diogenes_> so that's normal
[19:42] <diogenes_> now run: cat  ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:42] <diogenes_> and share the link again
[19:42] <rabbit-in-the-ti> https://termbin.com/8z85
[19:43] <diogenes_> all seems ok, now go ahead and reboot and it should be ok
[19:45] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Thank you one billion, once again. You are a demi-god! (There is a terrible movie which they used to show on kids TV shows called the Boy and the Pirate. There is a scene where the time traveling boy takes a book of matches from his pocket and lights one for Black Beard the pirate. Black Beard  proclaims "witch craft". Truly, poorly understood technology can seem magic to the uninitiated.
[19:45] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Yours and thanks once more.
[19:46] <rabbit-in-the-ti> P.
[19:46] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Rebooting now.
[22:15] <xubuntu36i> Just installing xubuntu. Does it come with CH340 Drivers for clone arduino?
[22:51] <pjotter> Hi people. I'm having a problem with mousepad which I can't seem to get fixed. When I open a textfile on a mounted NAS and edit it in mousepad, the first time I save it everything is fine. Then when I proceed editing and try to save it again I get a message that the document has been modified externally and I need to affrim I want to save it. This is weird because I am the only one editing te file.
[22:51] <pjotter> I tried other editors and they seem to work just fine. It's just an issue with mousepad only.
[22:52] <pjotter> When I edit the permissions for the file and set the permission for others to read/write, the problem is solved.
[22:53] <pjotter> Does anyone know what might be going on with mousepad here?
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