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[14:04] <zetheroo> Is there any way to know what version of say php the next LTS will ship with?
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> !info rar
[14:05] <ubottu> rar (source: rar): Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2:5.5.0-1 (disco), package size 296 kB, installed size 810 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: the bot has been made working for disco
[14:07] <zetheroo> !info php
[14:07] <ubottu> php (source: php-defaults (69ubuntu1)): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (default). In component main, is optional. Version 2:7.2+69ubuntu1 (disco), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB
[14:07] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: hmm ...not quite sure what that means
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: i think in this stage, releasenotes are not made yet
[14:09] <zetheroo> Ok
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: what you can do is, use apt-cache search keyword on your own system
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: those are the packages currently available for your system
[14:11] <zetheroo> Right, but I was just asked by a webdev if I knew what the next LTS python and php version was going to be ... but I understand if it's a bit too early to call at this time
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: those packageversions can change during time, as your system gets updates, till final release
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: also keep in mind disco is a non-LTS version
[14:12] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: right, but the main version doesn't change in an LTS, right?
[14:12] <zetheroo> ah, I didn't know what 'disco' meant
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> !disco
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> too early :p
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: for LTS releasenotes visit the LTS version wiki releasenotes
[14:21] <zetheroo> When do you think is the earliest time when software versions are released for Ubuntu LTS releases?
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: what are you asking exactly?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: maybe your a lost in the channels? this is for ubuntu 19.04 right
[14:24] <zetheroo> It's basically about being able to plan ahead. If today all our Webservers are running php7.2 (Ubuntu 18.04) and we want to plan ahead for the migration to Ubuntu 20.04 it would be nice to know what version of php/python/nginx etc ... will be shipped in 20.04.
[14:24] <zetheroo> Is there a channel for 20.04?
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: 19.04 is not even out here, 
[14:25] <zetheroo> I know :)
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: when 20.04 gets a codename, development will start here
[14:26] <zetheroo> Ok, and in general is it known in which stage of development the shipped software versions are known? Beta ... Alpha ... etc ?
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: recently decided alpha stages are out of the game
[14:32] <zetheroo> so straight to beta ... and is that only for 19.04 or in general from now on?
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: think from 18.10 and higher
[14:37] <zetheroo> ok