| JanC | for me "buffy" refers to Buffy Sainte-Marie instead :) | 00:09 |
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| JanC | but then, there is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-Gak9vTYU&t=513s | 00:09 |
| JanC | Canadian native-American who became somewhat famous in the late 1960s as a folky singer-songwriter/protest-singer; but she often was ahead of her time in some ways, like starting to use computers for music recording & artwork in 1981 or so | 00:19 |
| valorie | of course, Buffy Sainte-Marie | 00:21 |
| JanC | already used synths in the late 1960s too | 00:21 |
| valorie | a voice from my young teen years | 00:21 |
| JanC | :) | 00:21 |
| JanC | I only know her since the 1990s or so, to be fair | 00:22 |
| JanC | early 1990s | 00:22 |
| JanC | it's funny that she had this song “The Vampire” :) | 00:23 |
| valorie | I always noticed the Canadians | 00:23 |
| JanC | on an album from 1969 | 00:23 |
| valorie | since my mother was raised in Alberta, and my grandfather (father's father) was born and raised in Ontario | 00:23 |
| JanC | IIRC she released the first or one of the first music albums that was digitally recorded | 00:25 |
| JanC | valorie: I already liked her music/songs when I first heard them in the early 1990s, but got really fascinated when I learned how she was a forerunner with electronic music--and that without obviously sounding like electronic music :) | 00:34 |
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| TJ- | When building systemd (locally) how does one disable tests that fail (test-boot-timestamps & test-execute) ? | 11:35 |
| cjwatson | ahasenack,doko,sil2100: OK, I think the particular issue that caused failed builds without logs from yesterday should be fixed now. (Thread-safety bug, as far as I can make out) | 12:40 |
| doko | cjwatson: are builds given back for test rebuilds? | 12:43 |
| cjwatson | doko: I'm looking for builds that it's possible to retry. Do you have an example of such a current failure that you haven't retried yet? | 12:53 |
| cjwatson | Unfortunately the nature of the failure prevented me from using my usual log-scanning technique for this | 12:54 |
| cjwatson | doko: So far my scans didn't find any, but I'm wondering if I made a mistake somewhere | 12:55 |
| cjwatson | doko: ? | 13:26 |
| doko | cjwatson: I didn't check myself yet. just wanted to ask. and I only want to retry after all were tried at least once. then I can give you the list ... | 13:33 |
| cjwatson | doko: OK, well, if you find one that's in a failed-without-logs state, please don't retry it and instead let me know so I can figure out how to fix my scanning code. I don't need a list as such | 13:36 |
| doko | ok | 13:38 |
| jdstrand | juliank: you asked if I was still affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1801338 ? | 13:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1801338 in apt (Ubuntu Cosmic) "apt fails to properly handle server-side connection closure" [Undecided,Triaged] | 13:51 |
| juliank | jdstrand: yes | 13:51 |
| juliank | it's just you, I have not heard about that from anyone else | 13:51 |
| jdstrand | that's weird since I'm not really doing anything all that weird | 13:52 |
| jdstrand | let me check my notes to remember the issue | 13:53 |
| smoser | xnox or rharper or Odd_Bloke , bug 1812411 should probably receive some attention. | 14:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1812411 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "cloud-init corrupting grub" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1812411 | 14:26 |
| juliank | TJ-: It does seem there is a regression in 4.18 and 4.19 compared to 4.15 with regards to iwlwifi - I just installed the 4.15 kernel from bionic on disco, and I get full WiFi speed now | 15:18 |
| juliank | fast.com reports 450 Mbit/s | 15:19 |
| TJ- | juliank: glad you've managed to confirm it | 15:19 |
| juliank | with 4.19 it reported 80 Mbit/s | 15:19 |
| TJ- | juliank: I've been running 5.0-rc2 and it seems OK there; might be worth testing that too? | 15:19 |
| juliank | ah no, I'm on wired | 15:19 |
| juliank | ah no, I'm on wired | 15:19 |
| TJ- | juliank: hehehe did it catch you out? | 15:20 |
| juliank | though I just unplugged wired and got 360 Mbit/s | 15:21 |
| * juliank goes try 5.0-rc2 | 15:24 | |
| * juliank has to turn of secure boot first, hope he remembers bios password | 15:24 | |
| sladen | juliank: 'admin' | 15:26 |
| juliank | sladen: nah, it's standard passowrd #2 | 15:28 |
| juliank | so, in 5.0-rc2 it starts out at 45 MB/s, then slowly reduces to 18 MB/s | 15:29 |
| juliank | I think it's network interference or antenna issues in the laptop | 15:29 |
| juliank | now it's back up at 40 MB/s | 15:29 |
| TJ- | juliank: did you manage to check for loose connectors on that end? | 15:30 |
| juliank | I can't take apart a less than 1y old T480s... | 15:30 |
| doko | LocutusOfBorg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/insighttoolkit4/4.12.2-dfsg1-4ubuntu4 ? | 15:32 |
| doko | hmm, just gave that back | 15:34 |
| juliank | checking laptop 2 | 15:37 |
| TJ- | juliank: I guess if the v4.15 is good then it's not hardware | 15:37 |
| juliank | (Acer Chromebook 13) | 15:37 |
| juliank | chromebook: 100, 86, 96 | 15:39 |
| juliank | that's a useless comparison :D | 15:39 |
| juliank | Mbit/s | 15:40 |
| juliank | Now I got 440 Mbit/s on 5.0 | 15:40 |
| juliank | ah no | 15:40 |
| juliank | on wired again | 15:40 |
| juliank | I should probably just get a nice long cat6e cable and forget about WiFi | 15:45 |
| LocutusOfBorg | doko, it sucks, we should remove everything that is not supported upstream | 15:52 |
| LocutusOfBorg | we should *not* ignore testsuite results for insighttoolkit4, that is all | 15:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/insighttoolkit4/+bug/1812874 | 15:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1812874 in insighttoolkit4 (Ubuntu) "insighttolkit4: remove everywhere except amd64 and i386" [Undecided,New] | 15:57 |
| jbicha | bdmurray: is the SRU team interested in bionic autopkgtest fixes like if I were able to fix bug 1763628? | 16:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1763628 in colord (Ubuntu) "autopkgtests are failing on valgrind" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1763628 | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | jbicha: it depends on the package's install base etc, making a whole bunch of people update to only fix an autopkgtest is somewhat rude | 16:07 |
| jbicha | thanks, I'll go ahead and close the bug since it's fixed in disco where we're more interested (and the bionic failures started before bionic's release) | 16:08 |
| smoser | mwhudson: i'm curious why 'go' snap is classic | 16:31 |
| smoser | (low priority ping) | 16:31 |
| juliank | sladen: so I think I agree w/ hardware is ok, I can consistently get 52-54 MB/s on 4.15 | 16:35 |
| juliank | not on later kernels | 16:36 |
| juliank | probably on some 4.18 ones | 16:36 |
| juliank | as disco was fine back in the day | 16:36 |
| juliank | um, cosmic | 16:36 |
| juliank | so there must be a regression in 4.18.y point releases | 16:37 |
| TJ- | juliank: When I did my tests I narrowed down one issue to 4.16-4.17 | 16:44 |
| juliank | now 4.18 is fine too | 16:48 |
| juliank | what is wrong | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | juliank: ok, I read the irc backlog between us and tried a few things and did not reproduce. I suspect that it has to do with a particular state of the archive that is not present (at least in what I tested)... | 16:51 |
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| seb128 | bdmurray, hey, thanks for the SRU reviews! could you review the new gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock upload in the bionic queue? there was a change which was in the upload accepted earlier than we decide to not include after all so I bumped the version and remove that patches/entry from the changelog | 18:00 |
| bdmurray | seb128: sure | 18:03 |
| seb128 | bdmurray, thx! | 18:03 |
| seb128 | doko, could you have a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype/+bug/1799014 ? there is patch for openjdk which has been commited upstream in 12 which could be useful to backport to our version | 20:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1799014 in openjdk-lts (Ubuntu) "bold font rendeing in Java is broken in Cosmic with OpenJDK 11" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:04 |
| tdaitx | seb128: thanks for the heads up, I will take a look at that | 20:09 |
| seb128 | tdaitx, thx | 20:11 |
| bdmurray | seb128: It seems to me like the patch in update-notifier for bionic would be useful for cosmic since it helps with cleaning up other zombie processes | 20:14 |
| seb128 | bdmurray, yeah, in practice we didn't get reports from cosmic and it's not a big issue so I'm trying to not spend too much enery on that non LTS serie, but I can upload there if you feel strongly about it | 20:15 |
| bdmurray | seb128: looking at the code my concern would be leftovers from calling software-properties-gtk from the applet. Do you recall which desktops show the update-notifier applet? | 20:21 |
| seb128 | bdmurray, no I don't, but that code is no new/a regression from the previous SRU, we didn't even had a SRU in cosmic | 20:22 |
| seb128 | I wouldn't bother SRUed a fix to cosmic, which is a non LTS, for an issue that got 0 user report | 20:22 |
| bdmurray | Okay yeah I don't see any obvious bug reports about it. | 20:25 |
| mwhudson | smoser: toolchain snaps more or less have to be in practice, it needs to e.g. invoke gcc | 20:30 |
| seb128 | bdmurray, anyway, let me know if you want a cosmic upload and I can do one but I think it's a waste of time | 20:33 |
| smoser | mwhudson: why would that imply classic? | 20:38 |
| smoser | i guess you're not putting gcc inside the snap then? you could though, no? | 20:39 |
| smoser | oh. but i see. the invoked thing will ultimately read files in /usr/include/ and such and you want (it seems) those to be read | 20:40 |
| smoser | so the user can 'apt-get install libfoo-dev' and get those used. | 20:40 |
| mwhudson | smoser: tbh i forget the details | 20:40 |
| mwhudson | but roughly yes, you could in theory pack the entire world into the snap (gcc, dev packages) but where do you stop | 20:40 |
| mwhudson | also presumably you are going to run the binaries the snap produces so there's a pretty strong trust relationship there | 20:41 |
| juliank | mwhudson: also, how'd go run work properly in a non-classic snap | 21:49 |
| mwhudson | juliank: well you shouldn't use that anyway :) | 21:49 |
| juliank | mwhudson: but... My .go scripts in ~/bin :( | 22:02 |
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