JanCfor me "buffy" refers to Buffy Sainte-Marie instead  :)00:09
JanCbut then, there is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-Gak9vTYU&t=513s00:09
JanCCanadian native-American who became somewhat famous in the late 1960s as a folky singer-songwriter/protest-singer; but she often was ahead of her time in some ways, like starting to use computers for music recording & artwork in 1981 or so00:19
valorieof course, Buffy Sainte-Marie00:21
JanCalready used synths in the late 1960s too00:21
valoriea voice from my young teen years00:21
JanCI only know her since the 1990s or so, to be fair00:22
JanCearly 1990s00:22
JanCit's funny that she had this song “The Vampire”  :)00:23
valorieI always noticed the Canadians00:23
JanCon an album from 196900:23
valoriesince my mother was raised in Alberta, and my grandfather (father's father) was born and raised in Ontario00:23
JanCIIRC she released the first or one of the first music albums that was digitally recorded00:25
JanCvalorie: I already liked her music/songs when I first heard them in the early 1990s, but got really fascinated when I learned how she was a forerunner with electronic music--and that without obviously sounding like electronic music  :)00:34
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TJ-When building systemd (locally) how does one disable tests that fail (test-boot-timestamps & test-execute) ?11:35
cjwatsonahasenack,doko,sil2100: OK, I think the particular issue that caused failed builds without logs from yesterday should be fixed now.  (Thread-safety bug, as far as I can make out)12:40
dokocjwatson: are builds given back for test rebuilds?12:43
cjwatsondoko: I'm looking for builds that it's possible to retry.  Do you have an example of such a current failure that you haven't retried yet?12:53
cjwatsonUnfortunately the nature of the failure prevented me from using my usual log-scanning technique for this12:54
cjwatsondoko: So far my scans didn't find any, but I'm wondering if I made a mistake somewhere12:55
cjwatsondoko: ?13:26
dokocjwatson: I didn't check myself yet. just wanted to ask. and I only want to retry after all were tried at least once. then I can give you the list ...13:33
cjwatsondoko: OK, well, if you find one that's in a failed-without-logs state, please don't retry it and instead let me know so I can figure out how to fix my scanning code.  I don't need a list as such13:36
jdstrandjuliank: you asked if I was still affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1801338 ?13:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1801338 in apt (Ubuntu Cosmic) "apt fails to properly handle server-side connection closure" [Undecided,Triaged]13:51
juliankjdstrand: yes13:51
juliankit's just you, I have not heard about that from anyone else13:51
jdstrandthat's weird since I'm not really doing anything all that weird13:52
jdstrandlet me check my notes to remember the issue13:53
smoserxnox or rharper or Odd_Bloke , bug 1812411 should probably receive some attention.14:26
ubottubug 1812411 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "cloud-init corrupting grub" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181241114:26
juliankTJ-: It does seem there is a regression in 4.18 and 4.19 compared to 4.15 with regards to iwlwifi - I just installed the 4.15 kernel from bionic on disco, and I get full WiFi speed now15:18
juliankfast.com reports 450 Mbit/s15:19
TJ-juliank: glad you've managed to confirm it15:19
juliankwith 4.19 it reported 80 Mbit/s15:19
TJ-juliank: I've been running 5.0-rc2 and it seems OK there; might be worth testing that too?15:19
juliankah no, I'm on wired15:19
juliankah no, I'm on wired15:19
TJ-juliank: hehehe did it catch you out?15:20
juliankthough I just unplugged wired and got 360 Mbit/s15:21
* juliank goes try 5.0-rc215:24
* juliank has to turn of secure boot first, hope he remembers bios password15:24
sladenjuliank: 'admin'15:26
julianksladen: nah, it's standard passowrd #215:28
juliankso, in 5.0-rc2 it starts out at 45 MB/s, then slowly reduces to 18 MB/s15:29
juliankI think it's network interference or antenna issues in the laptop15:29
julianknow it's back up at 40 MB/s15:29
TJ-juliank: did you manage to check for loose connectors on that end?15:30
juliankI can't take apart a less than 1y old T480s...15:30
dokoLocutusOfBorg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/insighttoolkit4/4.12.2-dfsg1-4ubuntu4 ?15:32
dokohmm, just gave that back15:34
juliankchecking laptop 215:37
TJ-juliank: I guess if the v4.15 is good then it's not hardware15:37
juliank(Acer Chromebook 13)15:37
juliankchromebook: 100, 86, 9615:39
juliankthat's a useless comparison :D15:39
juliankNow I got 440 Mbit/s on 5.015:40
juliankah no15:40
juliankon wired again15:40
juliankI should probably just get a nice long cat6e cable and forget about WiFi15:45
LocutusOfBorgdoko, it sucks, we should remove everything that is not supported upstream15:52
LocutusOfBorgwe should *not* ignore testsuite results for insighttoolkit4, that is all15:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1812874 in insighttoolkit4 (Ubuntu) "insighttolkit4: remove everywhere except amd64 and i386" [Undecided,New]15:57
jbichabdmurray: is the SRU team interested in bionic autopkgtest fixes like if I were able to fix bug 1763628?16:06
ubottubug 1763628 in colord (Ubuntu) "autopkgtests are failing on valgrind" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176362816:06
bdmurrayjbicha: it depends on the package's install base etc, making a whole bunch of people update to only fix an autopkgtest is somewhat rude16:07
jbichathanks, I'll go ahead and close the bug since it's fixed in disco where we're more interested (and the bionic failures started before bionic's release)16:08
smosermwhudson: i'm curious  why 'go' snap is classic16:31
smoser(low priority ping)16:31
julianksladen: so I think I agree w/ hardware is ok, I can consistently get 52-54 MB/s on 4.1516:35
julianknot on later kernels16:36
juliankprobably on some 4.18 ones16:36
juliankas disco was fine back in the day16:36
juliankum, cosmic16:36
juliankso there must be a regression in 4.18.y point releases16:37
TJ-juliank: When I did my tests I narrowed down one issue to 4.16-4.1716:44
julianknow 4.18 is fine too16:48
juliankwhat is wrong16:48
jdstrandjuliank: ok, I read the irc backlog between us and tried a few things and did not reproduce. I suspect that it has to do with a particular state of the archive that is not present (at least in what I tested)...16:51
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seb128bdmurray, hey, thanks for the SRU reviews! could you review the new gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock upload in the bionic queue? there was a change which was in the upload accepted earlier than we decide to not include after all so I bumped the version and remove that patches/entry from the changelog18:00
bdmurrayseb128: sure18:03
seb128bdmurray, thx!18:03
seb128doko, could you have a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype/+bug/1799014 ? there is patch for openjdk which has been commited upstream in 12 which could be useful to backport to our version20:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1799014 in openjdk-lts (Ubuntu) "bold font rendeing in Java is broken in Cosmic with OpenJDK 11" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:04
tdaitxseb128: thanks for the heads up, I will take a look at that20:09
seb128tdaitx, thx20:11
bdmurrayseb128: It seems to me like the patch in update-notifier for bionic would be useful for cosmic since it helps with cleaning up other zombie processes20:14
seb128bdmurray, yeah, in practice we didn't get reports from cosmic and it's not a big issue so I'm trying to not spend too much enery on that non LTS serie, but I can upload there if you feel strongly about it20:15
bdmurrayseb128: looking at the code my concern would be leftovers from calling software-properties-gtk from the applet. Do you recall which desktops show the update-notifier applet?20:21
seb128bdmurray, no I don't, but that code is no new/a regression from the previous SRU, we didn't even had a SRU in cosmic20:22
seb128I wouldn't bother SRUed a fix to cosmic, which is a non LTS, for an issue that got 0 user report20:22
bdmurrayOkay yeah I don't see any obvious bug reports about it.20:25
mwhudsonsmoser: toolchain snaps more or less have to be in practice, it needs to e.g. invoke gcc20:30
seb128bdmurray, anyway, let me know if you want a cosmic upload and I can do one but I think it's a waste of time20:33
smosermwhudson: why would that imply classic?20:38
smoseri guess you're not putting gcc inside the snap then? you could though, no?20:39
smoseroh. but i see.  the invoked thing will ultimately read files in /usr/include/ and such and you want (it seems) those to be read20:40
smoserso the user can 'apt-get install libfoo-dev' and get those used.20:40
mwhudsonsmoser: tbh i forget the details20:40
mwhudsonbut roughly yes, you could in theory pack the entire world into the snap (gcc, dev packages) but where do you stop20:40
mwhudsonalso presumably you are going to run the binaries the snap produces so there's a pretty strong trust relationship there20:41
juliankmwhudson: also, how'd go run work properly in a non-classic snap21:49
mwhudsonjuliank: well you shouldn't use that anyway :)21:49
juliankmwhudson: but... My .go scripts in ~/bin :(22:02
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