[00:01] OerHeks: I was under the impression that ath10k was included in the Kernel already [00:02] TJ- Very true - I'm an idiot! [00:05] Did I kill the chat here? let's talk about the bear instead :) [00:23] one thinks one gotta sleep soon now. almost 1:30am [00:24] sorry! This is the #ubuntu channel, no the offtopic. very sorry [00:36] anyone have any idea why virtualbox when loading up a vm wont read the iso as a bootable medium? [00:37] it just tells me cannot find bootable medium even when ubuntu18.04.1-server-amd64.iso is loaded in a disk image [00:37] jamie_1_: it's supposed to be optical media, not a disk image [00:37] sorry i worded that bad, thats what it is [00:38] jamie_1_: what OS is VB running on? [00:38] ubuntu 18.10 [00:39] btw nice to see you again... i dont come very often but you always seem to be here [00:39] it's working fine for me here on 18.04. Have you tested the iso booting another machine from usb or cd? [00:40] hrm... i did have a few system complaints that i had to fix when i installed virtualbox [00:40] i know its system related due to its happening both on vmware and virtualbox [00:41] this dam on screen keyboard is kill me [00:41] maybe you errors about VT-x or so? [00:41] any ideas how to fix that or check what i need to do to fix it? [00:41] im not a wizz with vm's honeslty [00:41] or spelling for that fact apparently [00:42] im thinking of calling it and going back to ubuntu gnome 16.04 [00:42] XD everything worked a lot better there XD === jacob is now known as Guest50835 [00:44] screw it im going to load up 16.04.1 [00:44] jamie_1_: I would stick with 18.04 [00:44] mainly the LTS releases [00:44] anyone know why ubuntu gnome seems to be gone? === Guest50835 is now known as jodlers [00:44] jamie_1_: 18.04 and above IS ubuntu gnome [00:45] darn... i loved gnome 3.20 [00:45] the new one feels to close to unity im [00:45] *imo [00:46] the hotlkey reliance is a lot lower which is what i loved, almost never had to touch the mouse at all [00:46] jamie_1_: you know you can make it however you like right? (for the most part) [00:46] oh i know [00:46] its linux XD [00:46] it was honestly just how i liked right out of box [00:46] hotkeys > mouse anyday [00:47] whats killing me is this dam on screen keyboard shit [00:47] anyone know how to deal with that? [00:47] why do you need an onscreen keyboard? Also please watch the language [00:47] sorry [00:47] and i dont.... thats the issue [00:48] its disabled in settings and due to me having a touch screen and using it a lot it keeps poping up the keyboard [00:48] sure you find system settings about this behaviour [00:48] and install gnome tweak tool, maybe more options there [00:49] onboard screenboard is default on a touch device, great [00:49] jamie_1_: so you do or do not use the touchscreen? Personally, I don't like to treat my laptops like a phone or tablet so that is the first thing I disable in the BIOS [00:49] leftyfb: my touch pad doesnt work even with changing the grub [00:49] it works when it feels like so when i do need to use the cursor i have to use the touch screen [00:50] also when working with servers its kinda nice honestly with the two in one settings leftyfb [00:50] maybe that needs to be the first thing you troubleshoot? (touchpad) [00:50] what touch device is this? [00:50] asus harman [00:51] jamie_1_: huh? A touchreen is nice working with server? Can you elaborate on that? [00:51] when just configuring stuff with ethernet like ports and adding a vdi to a machine and you dont have a place the set it down, you just flip it into tablet and hold it in your forarm [00:52] zenbook [00:52] its a unpopular opnion i know [00:52] crash cart [00:52] the arch wiki gives clues, about touchpad building yourself and other issues that makes it not a certified linux machine [00:52] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ASUS_Zenbook_UX430/UX530 [00:52] leftyfb: im to lazy for that XD [00:53] OerHeks: oh i know... its not very good in the sense of a machine at all... so many issues ive ran into [00:53] but its company provided [00:53] i didnt have to pay for it so i kinda live with it [00:54] im pretty sure you can understand that much OerHeks [00:56] well i think im gonna spin up 18.04 and see how it goes there [00:56] hopefully it will work fine there === andyhuzhill_ is now known as andyhuzhill === andyhuzhill_ is now known as andyhuzhill [01:24] Why would a network card disappear all of a sudden? [01:30] craigbass76, hidden powermanagment? [01:31] does this occur after the same x of time, gives a clue to that [01:31] im running linux mint on a thinkpad x220, and the cursor keeps moving and clicking on its own. does anyone know anything about this? is it a common issue? easy fix? (please say yes) [01:32] I'm not sure. I haven't had to bring one up manually in a while, so I'm googling in one room, and running back and forth to it. It just stopped coming up (I want to say a couple weeks ago, but might be a month) and I can't remember how I made it work. ifcfg -a shows it, but it's not active [01:32] OerHeks, ^^ [01:33] ifup <-- I thought that was a command. Maybe once upon a time? [01:34] normally the network manager takes care of this [01:34] It's a desktop, with an ethernet card, so I won't be dorking with wifi or passwords. [01:34] I can see it in network manager, but I don't see anything jumping out at me explaining what might ail it. [01:34] this might be a hardware failure, hardware does wear and tear [01:35] sounds like it needs a kernel module/firmware to get built but you don't have the -extras package to do so when update-initramfs gets run [01:35] or a cable issue [01:35] one of my servers had the issue whenever a new kernel was installed and I had to reboot ... before I installed the -extras package that is [01:36] craigbass76: when it's inaccessible, do you see it in lspci? Do you see it in /sys/class/net? [01:38] I've got lights on the card itself. [01:38] And it could have happened after an update, I don't remember exactly. [01:38] craigbass76: ok, care to check any of the questions I asked? [01:39] Hang on... I've got my laptop out in the kitchen with an external monitor -- have to migrate... [01:44] leftyfb, I see the ethernet controller in lspci, and there is a symlink to a ../../devices/blahblah/enp0s25 in sys/class/net [01:45] craigbass76: what version of ubuntu? [01:45] hi [01:45] is anyone here [01:46] hello [01:46] ... [01:47] leftyfb, /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.con has a [ifupdown] managed=false section. I chaned it to true, and restarted NetworkManager, but nothing happened, so I se it back [01:48] my apologies for missing characters -- this keyboard is twacked -- part of why I was setting out at the table with it [01:48] craigbass76: ok, so this is a desktop? [01:48] craigbass76: if you see it in network manager, then just reconnect to it [01:49] <_aD> Where would be the appropriate place to report a possible security issue with the Ubuntu wiki? [01:49] Define network manager. Is that a GNOME GUI app? I'm on XFCE [01:49] <_aD> I seem to have gotten lost in a maze of contact us pages, wiki security bug reporting and community posts, and can't find a sensible-looking GPG key for security@ubuntu.com [01:50] _aD: try #ubuntu-website [01:51] <_aD> leftyfb: tyvm [01:51] On the icon I actually DO see up by the clock, I see Ethernet Network, but it's greyed out and right underneath I see "device not managed" [01:52] craigbass76: I'm not familiar with what xfce uses to manage networking. I assume it's NetworkManager in the backend and needs the ifupdown set to true, but I really have no idea [01:56] it uses networkmanager, it auto starts gnome services as well [01:56] Well, /etc/network/interfaces doesn't list it. That might be a problem, no? === deathonater is now known as Smeef [01:57] craigbass76: NetworkManager != /etc/network/interfaces [01:57] it launches nm-applet, so i imagine it uses netmanager === andyhuzhill_ is now known as andyhuzhill [02:06] leftyfb, ok, if I set a line in interfaces, then ifconfig enp0s25 up, I've got network [02:07] Well, I lied. I have to do a dhclient too [02:10] I ran `snap install foobar2000` and it's stuck at "Automatically connect eligible plugs and slots of snap foobar2000" [02:11] i think it is working on installing wine for that snap [02:11] ah, that would make sense [02:12] "foobar2000 is an advanced freeware audio player [wine-i386 packed snap]" [02:12] i use clementine, can handle large collections, has an equaliser [02:13] yeah but can it play EVERY SINGLE CHIPTUNE FORMAT OUT THERE? [02:17] if open source cannot handle it, i am not interested in the format [02:17] when i try to boot ubuntu 18.04-desktop on my lenovo laptop - it hangs - no keys work - any ideas on how to debug it? I am trying to start it with live usb boot [02:19] leftyfb, I guess I can just run a script after I login that does the ifconfig up and dhclient commands... [02:19] I mean, someone just has to work on it, but OSS has never been good in the gaming arena [02:20] craigbass76, or let NM handle it [02:21] Kumool: can you please restrict yourself to support? [02:22] hggdh: no? [02:23] Kumool: yes. Last warning. [02:23] go ahead [02:24] :D [02:24] bb! [02:27] kk4ewt, leftyfb OerHeks weird... THere's some workaround. touch /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf [02:27] !info oss4-dkms [02:27] oss4-dkms (source: oss4): Open Sound System - DKMS module sources. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2-build2010-5ubuntu3~18.04.1 (bionic), package size 635 kB, installed size 4805 kB [02:30] hey [02:30] i need help [02:30] panel in the top and bottom is gone [02:34] i found a way let see if it works [02:45] hey anyone around [02:46] spinningcat, I'd suggest providing more details, eg. your release of ubuntu, desktop (if not gnome/unity) etc. [02:48] ubuntu 16.04 [02:48] it is gnome (default) [02:50] im trying to insert notify-send -t 13001 BO to the cron but noluck ... the syslog show the job successfully executed but the notification seems to be silenced [02:50] any avice? [02:50] advice [02:53] Anyone running ubuntu on recent lenovo laptops here? I have tried to boot ubuntu 18.04 / 10 - none works so far [02:54] default for 16.04 was Unity - are you running Ubuntu-GNOME LTS 16.04 ? (and not Ubuntu 16.04 LTS) [02:54] spinningcat, ^ (sorry forgot to direct question) [02:56] panels are gone [02:56] i guess it is LTS i am not sure [02:57] spinningcat, my question was if you're running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Unity desktop, not gnome) or Ubuntu-GNOME 16.04 LTS (gnome desktop) [02:57] fishcooker: you'll need to add it to your user cron, not root. And start it with: export DISPLAY=:0 ; notify-send ....... [02:57] i am using gnome default [02:58] is there a command to be sure about that? [03:01] spinningcat, I don't know gnome on 16.04 (never used it), but I'd suggest looking in `gnome-tweak-tool` for options, and to see if you can disable extensions (if you add a gnome extension for a later/earlier version of gnome it can create problems - they are solved [usually] in you disable them) -- but I'm no expert in gnome [03:01] actually i didnt add anything [03:02] i just came home open computer and saw panels are gone [03:03] spinningcat: have you tried rebooting? [03:04] yeah [03:04] (I'd 2nd lefty's comment, and yes it probably is gnome, I booted an older ubuntu & Unity has only a top panel) [03:04] also enable unity from ccsm [03:06] spinningcat, gnome != unity. [03:06] spinningcat: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP [03:07] unity [03:07] ok, that's not gnome [03:08] yes [03:08] now what will i do? [03:08] https://itsfoss.com/how-to-fix-no-unity-no-launcher-no-dash-in-ubuntu-12-10-quick-tip/ [03:10] let me try those [03:16] panel come back [03:16] i dont know why it diseppeared [03:24] How can I setup the screen brightness to whatever I feel like in a desktop? [03:24] Under screen brightness all I see is "Dim screen: checkbox [03:26] raub, it is my understanding most desktops don't allow brightness (it's a laptop feature added to save battery life firstly, then more recently for outdoor use - neither of which apply with desktops) [03:28] raub: most external monitors have a way to change the brightness on the device itself [03:28] raub, you can use apps like 'redshift' to create that function via settings, but it's more a hack to achieve it [03:28] guiverc: thanks for the info. I am running ubuntu in an imac with a built-in 26" monitor. It is too bright for me [03:28] as in I am having a headache. If this was a normal separate monitor I would be clicking on its controls [03:29] raub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Redshift & consider brightness= or brightness-day=, brightness-night= ... [03:31] guiverc: Thank. I will give it a try [03:43] cool leftyfb it works, thanks [03:46] guiverc: I see what you mean as it being a hack. I was hoping I could adjust power to the screen as in a laptop [03:47] Still. thanks for the suggestion [03:47] raub, that program has great capacity to change colors/temperature/.. so even if not via brightness, with other settings you should be able (hopefully anyway) to achiwve what you need === darris_ is now known as darris === deathonater is now known as Smeef === mobile_c_ is now known as mobile_c === Dreaman is now known as Blade [04:54] Does anyone know how to fix mic static/crackling? I've tried everything I could find to no avail. [04:54] The microphone itself works fine (tested on my laptop). It's also not a hardware issue since everything wored fine under Windows on the same system. [04:55] worked* [04:57] cyphex: you're not talking about your laptop? [04:57] matsaman: No. The problem is with an external microphone on my desktop. [04:59] cyphex: you've looked through alsamixer? Sometimes multiple items can apply to a single in/out [04:59] you can use left/right arrow keys and tab to go through all the options [04:59] there's "mic boost", frequently, even [05:00] I have looked through those. [05:00] I turned mic boost all the way down, but the crackling persists. [05:01] all the same connectors, cables? Same location? [05:01] Yep. [05:01] It's definitely a software issue, but I have no idea how to pinpoint/resolve it. [05:02] cyphex: maybe this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture/Troubleshooting#Crackling_microphone [05:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [05:03] I've done those. Disabling scheduling helped a little bit, but there is still crackling. [05:04] Also, I don't have an intel sound card as far as I can tell. [05:09] cyphex: really, what've you got? [05:10] lspci says: Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) HD Audio Controller [05:11] 'hd audio' probably is hd audio regardless of the manufacturer/designer, but let's check [05:14] cyphex: what's lspci -n output? [05:15] ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6z8sTtkh4p/ [05:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6z8sTtkh4p/ * sorry [05:17] cyphex: oh sorry, how about -nn ? [05:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pr7J6RFPhs/ === deathonater is now known as Smeef [05:21] cyphex: which kernel? [05:22] 4.18.0-13 [05:22] which Ubuntu? [05:23] 18.10 budgie [05:29] cyphex: it might be worth trying the most recent kernel you can find [05:29] matsaman: Yeah, it's a long shot, but I think it's my only option. [05:29] Thanks for your help :) [05:31] you could also try the aforementioned params but with different values [05:32] I have. I've even tried different combinations. In my despair I reached the 5th page of google results. [05:34] cyphex: this might be the bug to watch: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=195303 [05:34] bugzilla.kernel.org bug 195303 in Sound(ALSA) "ALC1220 snd_hda_intel Sound capture is crackled / distorted" [Normal,New] [05:35] cyphex: have you tried without pulseaudio? [05:35] yup [05:37] maybe it is just the level of input and output in alsamixer, seen that before, level 50% [05:41] OerHeks: could you clarify? Do you mean setting the levels to 50%? [05:42] yed, fiddle around with alsamixer ( in terminal) [05:42] I've tried that, didn't help unfortunately. [05:42] F4 capture [05:43] Looking through the bugzilla entry linked above, it seems to be a recurring problem with x370 chipsets (which is the chipset I have as well) [05:46] can anyone please help me removing this error [05:46] while running mongo shell [05:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SS7VBxFdck/ [05:48] sergeant: not somewhere I'm particularly knowledgeable, but maybe this can help point you in the right direction (see the highlighted answer & the one below it) https://stackoverflow.com/a/24941698 [05:54] is that on ubuntu server sergeant [05:54] yes lotusspsychje [05:55] come join to #ubuntu-server, likeminded volunteers there [05:56] I am having trouble registering my nickname on freenode. [05:56] Can someone assist me with the same. [05:57] !register | sergeant [05:57] sergeant: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode. === er is now known as Guest9893 [06:11] i get an error: error: store.SnapNotFound with 28 snaps [06:11] if i perform: snap install sdlpop pencilsheep nextcloud bubble-pop xonotic cncra cncra2yr cnctsun jgalaxian flare-rpg minecraft boa openra corsixth tmnationsforever msnake micropolis sudoku-game pin-town spelunky zzt starruler2 spider-solitaire balloon-pop liveforspeed solarus squarehead opentyrian [06:11] : O [06:11] is there a limit of snaps install ? [06:12] OerHeks: some snaps might need arguments to install, maybe check? [06:12] OerHeks: like sudo snap install snap --classic [06:12] not sure if snappy is built for multi installs like apt [06:19] All About the Benyamins: https://www.bitchute.com/video/vLYGbG7SBxM7/ (The very latest from Scott Roberts) === cpaelzer__ is now known as cpaelzer [06:57] hai, is Ubuntu 18.04 supports for HP laptops? [06:58] I am customising Ubuntu from last 7 years [06:58] Now I am planning to customise ubuntu 18.04 with all the educational tools [06:59] Suggest me some good educational tools whichhel fort teachers to teach class 8, 9 and 10th students [07:02] Now I am planning to customise ubuntu 18.04 with all the educational tools [12:29] Suggest me some good educational tools whichhel fort teachers to teach class 8, 9 and 10th student [07:04] qwebirc94296: nice project and welcome to ubuntu [07:04] qwebirc94296: maybe you can discuss this in #ubuntu-discuss === phoenix_firebrd is now known as murthy === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [07:30] i am using start-stop-daemon in a init script.....setting made in /etc/security/limits.d/foo.conf are ignored...it seems that start-stop-daemon is not capable for setting ulimits...is that correct? === tulsi is now known as Guest18597 [07:47] hey [07:50] hk.archive.ubuntu.com seems broken? [07:51] Kira: ask in #ubuntu-mirrors [07:51] thanks [08:10] Hello guys if my reverse dns is tld.com and my hostname set in postfix is fqdn.tld.com, will it decrease my mail delivery rate? [08:18] After installing packages updates on 5 Ubuntu 16.04 servers one wont start (just stuck during kernel boot), https://imgur.com/a/Nukuvk9 [08:18] Anybody had such an issue ? [08:20] you are probably better off asking in #ubuntu-server [08:20] thanks [08:21] Hi, I installed Ubuntu desktop and when I try to lturn the PC on it gets just past the screen with the Ubuntu logo with dots underneath then it freezes on a purple screen with the cursor in the bottom right [08:22] Any help is appreciated. [08:23] Krerelath: gpu driver ? [08:23] what gpu do you have ? [08:23] None, it is on a xeon. [08:24] Dual Xeons [08:24] From 2010 can't remember the exact model. [08:27] Any help with my above query? [08:28] Hi, I installed Ubuntu desktop and when I try to lturn the PC on it gets just past the screen with the Ubuntu logo with dots underneath then it freezes on a purple screen with the cursor in the bottom right, please help. [08:28] !patience | Krerelath [08:28] Krerelath: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [08:29] Krerelath: Xeon is not GPU, but CPU from my knowledge [08:29] what GPU do you have on your syetem ? [08:29] !nomodeset | Krerelath you can try this [08:29] Krerelath you can try this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [08:30] Hello guys if my reverse dns is tld.com and my hostname set in postfix is fqdn.tld.com, will it decrease my mail delivery rate? [08:30] eject_ck: some xeons have integrated graphivs [08:30] graphics* [08:30] It runs integrated graphics [08:31] Krerelath: at the booting, press F1 to see text based errors, to see where its stuck === tulsi is now known as Guest30987 [08:31] So boot up and spam F1? [08:32] Krerelath: press F1 yes, it will switch to text [08:32] simputer: whether you use the domain itself or a subdomain will have no effect on delivery [08:33] Be back in a bit, dinner is beeping [08:35] Sliding thanks, so the reverse dns just has to exist? [08:39] Good morning all [08:40] I have a old ubuntu 8.04 server running with mysql databases on it. Is it better to set up a new server and migrate the databases or do upgrades with old iso's to 18.04? [08:41] Mudchains: a such old ubuntu, is long eol not safe to do anything anymore [08:41] Mudchains: clean install [08:41] Mudchains: start from the clean ^ [08:41] Thanks for the confirmation :) [08:42] lotuspsychje: the only possitive thing its not open for public use..but still a big security issue :') [08:43] Mudchains: but is it connected to internet? [08:43] lotuspsychje: yes [08:43] Mudchains: then its unwise to keep non-updated [08:44] as in.. inside -> internet.. not internet -> internal [08:44] Mudchains: would be different if the eol machine runs totaly local lan, without any connection outside [08:45] Mudchains: but even then, if some infected usb spreads on the network, and eol system can also be infected [08:46] lotuspsychje: no doubt about that :) thats why I want to replace it. We had a security scan.. the endreport is 40 pages big with full of recommendations ;) [08:47] Already implented Landscape and upgraded serveral 12.04 servers to 18.04 :) [08:47] Mudchains: a smooth way of doing production, would be the LTS way and keep them alive :p [08:47] Mudchains: nice [08:48] lotuspsychje : Sometimes it takes a while to do stuff right.. ;) [08:49] Mudchains: agreed :p, glad to find your way to the ubuntu community, see also #ubuntu-server [08:50] Is there a guide for setting up a correct disk/partition design? like 3 disks (1 for /boot, 1 for /swap and 1 for /) ? [08:50] instead of 1 disk (which can not be extended easily)? [08:50] why do you need an entire disk for /boot ? [08:50] Mudchains: think server vs desktop might be different [08:51] !partitioning | Mudchains [08:51] Mudchains: For help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap [08:51] lotuspsychje: thanks :) [08:53] cyphex: for each disk I can connect a own scsci controller in vmware [08:53] ah [08:53] cyphex: so the disk i/o can be much higher [08:54] DSFHDSFJ [08:54] 한꾺인있냐 [08:54] !swap [08:54] swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info [08:54] pc-502-29: can we help you? [08:55] 여기 [08:55] How do I obtain an install image for the desktop amd64 version that's less than 700MiB, so it can fit on a CD-ROM (NB: not DVD!)? [08:55] !zh | pc-502-28 [08:55] pc-502-28: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [08:55] lotuspsychje: He is speaking Korean, not Chinese. [08:55] !mini | svip [08:55] svip: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [08:56] lotuspsychje: Thank you! [08:56] svip: my korean isnt very fluid :p [08:56] lotuspsychje: the Faq doesnt say anything about fysical drives/scsi controllers and optimalisation in vmware :/ I will try out it anyway :) [08:57] !korean | pc-502-28 [08:57] pc-502-28: 도움이 필요하시면 다음 채널에 조인하십시오. /join #ubuntu-ko [08:57] Mudchains: yeah, thats why i mentioned desktop vs server, see the #ubuntu-server channel for that [08:57] 시발 [08:58] lotuspsychje : I will ask it there , thanks alot! [09:12] for ubuntu 18 live cd, the grub kernel command line looks like "/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity quiet splash ---", what is the meaning of triple dash here? [09:21] Hello, is there a way to use "Google chrome or chromium" in a usb stick ? I mean storing data in stick ? === jelly-home is now known as jelly [09:28] dro: Only browser on a stick? why do you want to do that? === LabMunkeh is now known as Mechanismus === capella is now known as capella|away [09:37] Okay, vack [09:37] Back* [09:37] welcome vack. [09:38] I booted up and pressed F1 it didn't change me to command line or whatever it was supposed to do, I still have the frozen purple screen with the cursor in the bottom right. [09:40] Is the psych person that was trying to help before still here? [09:41] Also on a side note why don't y'all use Discord instead of IRC? [09:43] Here is my original question, it seems that the original dude that was trying to help me an hour back isn't here anymore. "Hi, I installed Ubuntu desktop and when I try to turn the PC on it gets just past the screen with the Ubuntu logo with dots underneath then it freezes on a purple screen with the cursor in the bottom right" [09:44] Any help is much appreciated. [09:44] Hi, I have hdd with windows 10 on it and enough free space for ubuntu. Windows did some strange thing to partitions: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/K5Pc2nfupdpBCxIzISqQ/ . The last "partition" is free space, lol. When I deleted it and created ext4 partition for ubuntu, windows failed to boot. Deleting ext4 partition and creating SFS partition back helped fix it. So how can I install ubuntu on this hdd and keep windows 10 working? [09:47] Krerelath: do you know which graphics card you have there? you mentioned xeon processor, those are mostly used in servers, but you are trying to setup a graphical desktop, right? === tulsi is now known as Guest50651 [09:47] Integrated graphics. [09:47] Does it mean that dual boot is now not possible? [09:48] I want the GUI interface on my server, and I read the Ubuntu server and desktop are the same except unbuntu desktop has the gui === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [09:49] I had it working with CentOS before about a month back, ubuntu doesn't want to play ball though. [09:50] evgen_vasilev: first of all, make windows work again. once it works, delete any partitions you don't want to use (from either windows or the ubuntu live / installer usb/cdrom/dvd). then just start the ubuntu installation. [09:51] tomreyn: so it will help? [09:52] evgen_vasilev: fixing windows will help fixing windows, and once that's done you will be able to install ubuntu just normally from the installer, no need to prepare any partitions or file systems for it. [09:53] and then you should be able to multi boot [09:53] Krerelath: that's mostly correct, yes, though there are some different defaults. [09:54] tomreyn: i thought that if windows doesn't boot when there's ext4 partition on hdd, installing ubuntu instead of creating partition won't help. Or installer will fix it somehow? [09:54] windows is working now, I fixed it [09:55] Krerelath: it is uncommon to run graphical desktops on server computers. their graphics chipsets are usually not meant for this task, are commonly very weak and just there so that you can get text output on screen. [09:56] tomreyn: So what do you recommend to get a GUI then? I had CentOS working perfectly with a GUI before. [09:56] Krerelath: what Xenon do you have ? [09:56] Krerelath: what you can do, however, is to do X forwarding, this way the graphics computation happens on the computer connecting to the server. [09:56] Xeon [09:58] tomreyn: from my experience X forwarding performance is far from acceptable. [09:58] Krerelath: so this was a general recommendation, and please keep it in mind. but if you had a graphical desktop working on this system previously and were happy with its performance then you can just install the same graphical desktop on ubuntu, it is probably available. do you remember which graphical desktop you had on centos? [09:59] eject_ck: in my experience running a graphical desktop on a server is far from acceptable. [09:59] I have dual xenon E5520's [10:00] It was just the one off of the default boot drive recommendation for a GUI, I think it was GNOME [10:00] evgen_vasilev: the ubuntu installer ist able to install next to windows, in a way that both can boot. [10:01] evgen_vasilev: so once you have windows bootable, you just need to install ubuntu. i'm not sure what SFS is, though, can you run and show the output of: sudo parted /dev/sdb print [10:02] ^ from ubuntu live / installer [10:03] Krerelath: so ubuntu 18.04 uses gnome 3, which has higher demands for graphics cards than older gnome versions. i assume centos may still be coming with gnome 2 [10:03] Hang on, after the what seems like 99th boot attempt it got past the frozen screen. [10:04] Right, so how do you recommend I go about getting gnome 2 instead of three? [10:04] !recovery | Krerelath: if this fails again, you can also boot to recovery and run commands from there [10:04] Krerelath: if this fails again, you can also boot to recovery and run commands from there: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [10:05] tomreyn: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/L0U7MDTJWORhGCxIqgAt/ [10:05] tomreyn: I am a Linux noob, is there a way to revert to gnome 2 now that it has booted in? [10:07] elias_a: only browser in stick, car I want to keep my navigation data in stick [10:07] evgen_vasilev: thanks, do you know which is which? you have 5.5 GB on sdb1, 500 MB on sdb2, flagged bootable, 80 GB ion sdb3 and 419 GB on sdb4 [10:07] evgen_vasilev: also, what is on sda, the first hard disk? [10:08] Krerelath: you can switch to tty, stop gdm (or whateved display manager you have), install gnome 2 and start it [10:08] without reboots [10:09] How does one switch to try and install gnome 2 then ditch gnome 3? [10:09] Tty* [10:09] dro: I did that for years ago. The problem is that no one lets ppl to run binaries from USB stick anymore. [10:09] elias_a: what solution do u suggest? [10:10] tomreyn: 5gb is windows liveusb (just written on hdd), 500mb is some windows partition, 80gb is actual windows system, 419gb is free space (windows made it a partition) [10:10] evgen_vasilev: i don't think gnome2 is available on ubuntu 18.04 (assuming Krerelath has this version, since I don't think we were told, yes) [10:11] Yes it is that version tomreyn. [10:11] Krerelath: you can install xubuntu-desktop, though, which is gtk2 based [10:11] tomreyn: sda is other hdd with system that is currently booted [10:11] dro: What OS are we talking about? Same machine or same few machines every time or should it work anywhere? [10:11] Krerelath: this Xeon doesn't have integrated GPU https://ark.intel.com/products/40200/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5520-8M-Cache-2-26-GHz-5-86-GT-s-Intel-QPI-, what GPU / motherboard do you have ? [10:11] tomreyn: I meant running X remotely is very poor performance. [10:11] elias_a: just for ubuntu [10:12] dro: There are ready made windows versions https://portableapps.com/apps/internet [10:12] There is no added GPU I know that for a fact and I do not know the mobo [10:13] dro: I've never seen a linux implementation of that. It is surely doable. [10:13] Krerelath: show dmidecode and lspci output ? [10:14] evgen_vasilev: okay so from the ubuntu live / installer start the (gnome) disks partition manager and delete the unneeded partition, then start the installation and select sdb as the target. the boot loader probbaly still needs to go to the first hdd, though, which is sda. [10:15] Krerelath: so where's your boot at now? [10:18] tomreyn: I know that, just thought that if widows stops booting if there's something else on hdd, simple installation won't help... [10:18] it worked before windows updated :) [10:19]