| n-iCe | Hi guys | 01:00 |
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| n-iCe | Is there a huge difference in performance between ubuntu stock and xubuntu? | 01:01 |
| taza | Hey my 18.04 install has the brightness buttons pop up an UI component, but not actually change brightness | 01:04 |
| taza | It's an ul30vt with both intel and nvidia graphics, which might do it | 01:08 |
| taza | Hokay and now I get no X. | 01:20 |
| taza | I can still magic into console but no X at all. How do I revert drivers from command line? | 01:21 |
| taza | Duh, purge the package. | 01:22 |
| Kumool | what are you trying to do? get wayland to work? | 01:23 |
| Kumool | ah | 01:24 |
| taza | I installed fresh xubuntu, noticed my brightness control did nothing, installed proprietary nvidia drivers, and got a delightful black screen and X not starting | 01:24 |
| Kumool | haha | 01:24 |
| Kumool | welcome to linux | 01:24 |
| taza | Known problem? | 01:24 |
| Kumool | well, dont use proprietary drivers | 01:25 |
| taza | ... I knew how to magic my way to terminal, give me some credit here | 01:25 |
| taza | I'm not giving Nouveau any credit it hasn't deserved; by which I mean any credit at all | 01:25 |
| Kumool | !give credits+1 to taza | 01:26 |
| ubottu | Kumool: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 01:26 |
| taza | Funny thing is the same closed driver works fine under mainline Ubuntu. | 01:26 |
| Kumool | its beyond me, if this was bsd i could just zap into console, install xinit and try to launch and mess with Xorg config, but in linux everything is different | 01:27 |
| Kumool | gonna have to hang around for a proper answer | 01:27 |
| Kumool | or go to #ubuntu | 01:27 |
| taza | If this was BSD I wouldn't try to install X | 01:27 |
| Kumool | hey, BSD is fantastic | 01:27 |
| taza | Given it works under Ubuntu and doesn't under Xubuntu, odds are short I'll see help | 01:27 |
| Kumool | ah | 01:28 |
| Kumool | maybe a dev will see your problem | 01:28 |
| taza | The brightness thing works under neither which is why I went "man I hate gnome and troubleshooting anything under it" | 01:28 |
| * Kumool goes back to his hole | 01:28 | |
| Kumool | are you running redshift? | 01:29 |
| Kumool | or w\e its called | 01:29 |
| taza | Fresh Xubuntu install, nothin' but drivers installed thus far | 01:29 |
| taza | Also yeah I wouldn't install X under BSD | 01:30 |
| Kumool | y not tho? | 01:30 |
| taza | Use cases where I want desktop and not apt are 0 | 01:30 |
| Kumool | not apt? | 01:31 |
| Kumool | you mean the package manager? | 01:31 |
| taza | yerpo | 01:31 |
| taza | And preferably the Ubuntu or at least Debian packages. | 01:31 |
| Kumool | dude, theres better package managers out there than apt | 01:32 |
| taza | Ubuntu's come a long way from the times the package manager insisted OpenOffice.org was a part of the kernel | 01:32 |
| taza | I remember those times like they were yesterday | 01:32 |
| taza | Incidentally what day is it | 01:32 |
| Kumool | and freebsd has pkg, which works fine | 01:32 |
| Kumool | pkg install Xorg | 01:33 |
| Kumool | and there ya go | 01:33 |
| taza | Yeah but why would I? | 01:33 |
| Kumool | I'm not saying you should, just saying, you should try to config Xorg via console and see | 01:33 |
| taza | Yeah but why would I sully a functional, stable BSD install with X? | 01:34 |
| Kumool | because consoles are terrible | 01:35 |
| taza | Are you talking about BSD in #xubuntu because you got hounded out of BSD communities for the heresy? | 01:35 |
| Kumool | its been 40 years and people still use terminals like if they were amazing, they're not | 01:36 |
| taza | Plus it's a BSD setup, if I ever see output other than a terminal I probably am getting it through a 1202 or audio pipe and neither need X. | 01:37 |
| Kumool | have no clue what those are | 01:38 |
| taza | Then maybe your distaste for terminals is not having seen enough bad GUI implementations? | 01:38 |
| Kumool | I've seen bad GUI implementations | 01:38 |
| Kumool | I've also seen good GUI implementations | 01:38 |
| taza | Yeah but you're clearly not an expert. | 01:38 |
| Kumool | I've also seen bash | 01:39 |
| Kumool | exactly | 01:39 |
| Kumool | I'm not | 01:39 |
| Kumool | nobody is | 01:39 |
| taza | I mean, I dunno, I've been here since we didn't have GUIs for a lot of this. | 01:40 |
| taza | I'm mostly asking 'cause someone might already know what's wrong since, well, whatever this Nvidia setup ain't exactly rare. | 01:40 |
| taza | Optimus, that's it | 01:41 |
| Kumool | well, you did get X to work no? it was just the brightness that was off? | 01:42 |
| taza | Currently testing | 01:42 |
| taza | /sys/class/backlight has an asus entry that does nothing, and an intel entry that does. | 02:06 |
| n-iCe | Is there a tool to manage monitors/displays? | 02:26 |
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| Kumool | Settings > Display | 02:48 |
| taza | BTW Kumool it took this long to fix things but I did | 03:04 |
| taza | Linux yay? | 03:04 |
| Kumool | yay | 03:04 |
| Kumool | its a low battery yay | 03:04 |
| taza | Bluetooth still isn't working right but I think it might be a version mismatch | 03:05 |
| xubuntu03w | Hi there! I'm trying to set up a dual screen setup on my laptop with a monitor, so I can extend the desktop. | 13:09 |
| xubuntu03w | It detects the monitor, however it only renders a wallpaper. | 13:09 |
| xubuntu03w | Any suggestions to what the problem might be? Would be much appreciated. | 13:09 |
| xubuntu03w | Nevermind, turns out the resolution difference between both screens was hiding the task bar. | 13:25 |
| xubuntu03w | Thanks anyways! | 13:25 |
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| xubuntu36w | Hello. What is the best GUI for software installation and de-installation? I used to use the Software Center, but that has disappeared in the new version. | 16:47 |
| diogenes_ | synaptic | 16:48 |
| xubuntu36w | Thanks. I installed it, and have de-installed a program with it. Are there others? | 16:51 |
| xubuntu36w | I thought the Software Center was simpler to use, meaning: you knew right away what you were installing. In Synaptic, you get a bunch of files and you must be sure to pick the right one. | 16:53 |
| diogenes_ | try gnome-software | 16:55 |
| xubuntu36w | I will try that one, also. Thanks, Diogenes! | 16:59 |
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