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didrocksgood morning07:21
dufluHi didrocks07:31
didrockshey duflu07:32
dufludidrocks, did you notice disco doesn't use a gradient on the login screen any more? :)07:37
didrocksduflu: I didn't, but TBH, I don't really pay attention, it's mostly autotyping by then :)07:43
didrocksI saw your bug report, I think it's easy for anyone interested to update the patch (just annoying G-S hardcodes thoses and don't use the theme)07:43
tjaaltonduflu: hi, have you tried intel-media-va-driver? only the non-free version seems to work here08:21
tjaaltonthis is the new driver for broadwell and up08:21
duflutjaalton, no I haven't. I felt we have enough backward compatibility problems so recommending a new driver that works on even fewer Intel chips would only make life more difficult. But if it does work then we can recommend it. Just don't install by default unless the system requirements are met08:23
tjaaltonright08:24
duflutjaalton, I think I was assuming that libva won't try multiple drivers in order if all installed. Maybe I should test that on <=haswell08:25
dufluActually I don't know if there is an order or priority even08:25
tjaaltonthere kinda was, it's gone from the unreleased version08:26
tjaaltonright now it'd use the old driver08:26
tjaaltonif both are installed08:26
dufluOh! Simple answer: /usr/share/doc/intel-media-va-driver/README.Debian08:27
tjaaltonyeah08:27
dufluThere must be some autodetection or else we couldn't have all those drivers (*_drv_video.so) installed simultaneously.08:28
dufluSo either the readme is out of date, or it will already try i965 first08:28
tjaaltonit will, just said so ;)08:29
dufluMaybe we can ship the new one too08:29
tjaaltonmaybe the next libva will do something else08:29
duflutjaalton, I am assuming that the new driver will simply refuse to load like nouveau or radeon on Intel hardware if using Haswell08:30
tjaaltonif forced? probably08:30
dufluSo we then could say to always try i^D before i96508:31
dufluSo we then could say to always try iHD before i96508:31
tjaaltonright08:32
dufluYou'd just need each driver to export priority information and test them all before making a final choice08:32
tjaaltonhttps://github.com/intel/libva/commit/b7203fe3b1fa633cece9cd9e5715b6477a70845508:32
tjaaltonupstream dropped the driver list, so I'm not sure what it'll do now08:33
duflutjaalton, I'll try and remember to set up an old Intel system some time and see08:34
tjaaltonI have one08:36
tjaaltonnot sure which version it has08:36
tjaaltonof the distro08:36
duflutjaalton, hmm it is failing on Kaby Lake, which is surprising (env LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME=iHD vainfo)08:36
tjaaltonduflu: which version?08:37
tjaaltonfree or non-free08:37
tjaaltonprobably free08:37
duflutjaalton, the one in archive yeah08:38
tjaaltonnon-free is still on the queue08:38
duflutjaalton, it's all bad news. iHD on Xorg fails to init and fails to fall back so mpv keeps it loaded but uses SW. On Wayland, the old i965 driver seems to have stopped working in disco, so that's a new bug08:47
seb128good morning desktopers08:47
dufluMorning seb12808:47
seb128hey duflu, how are you?08:48
tjaaltonduflu: ha, ok08:48
dufluseb128, just more frustrated now. More unresolved bugs. How are you?08:48
seb128hey tjaalton08:48
tjaaltonhowdy08:48
seb128duflu, oh :( which one today?08:48
dufluNot logged yet :)08:48
dufluUnless you count bug 181311908:49
ubot5bug 1813119 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "In Ubuntu 19.04, the wrong background (a gradient) flashes up briefly during the login animation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181311908:49
* duflu logs a new one for i965_drv08:49
willcookemorning all09:01
dufluMorning willcooke09:02
* Laney nods09:03
dufluMorning Laney09:04
didrockshey seb128j, willcooke, Laney09:04
jibelHi all09:05
didrockshey jibel!09:05
jibel:)09:05
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers09:05
seb128hey <list of those who just said good morning> :)09:06
duflutjaalton, happy Thursday: bug 181313109:06
ubot5bug 1813131 in intel-vaapi-driver (Ubuntu) "i965_drv_video.so doesn't load any more if a Wayland server is present [failed to resolve wl_drm_interface(): /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL_mesa.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_drm_interface]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181313109:06
dufluHi jibel09:07
dufluand hi oSoMoN09:07
tjaaltonhehe09:07
tjaaltonduflu: sounds like it's more of a bug in mesa though? it migrated to meson..09:36
tjaaltonso maybe the build is buggy09:37
willcookechanging sessions, brb09:38
duflutjaalton, yes I agree. The intel-vaapi-driver source has used that symbol for years09:39
dufluAnd it's still used in trunk09:40
dufluMorning willcooke09:41
willcooke:)09:41
dufluAgain. I am distracted and not trying to be facetious09:42
willcookeha09:44
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willcookeHm11:24
willcookePerhaps I'm going mad, but I would swear that the old "hold down alt and drag anywhere on a window" changed to super with GNOME Shell.11:25
willcookeMine is now back at alt again?!11:25
willcookeI did install the vanilla GNOME session this morning, if that makes any different11:25
willcookedifference11:25
* willcooke tries it on Disco11:25
willcookeyeah, it's super on Disco11:26
willcookeand I thought everywhere else11:26
willcookeperhaps the vanilla gnome desktop packages changed something?11:26
willcookePerhaps I did11:26
willcookestrange11:26
xnoxseb128, Laney - has anybody started to look into udisks2 autopkgtest failure in disco-proposed, possibly with/without/due to new-kernel/new-systemd?13:09
xnoxon ppc64el only13:09
xnoxwas hoping for a pair programme ;-)13:09
seb128xnox, I've it on my backlog but didn't look yet, if you want to do that it would be welcome :)13:09
xnoxha13:10
xnoxcould be new mdadm too at play =/13:15
seb128right, the last successful was with mdadm rc113:18
xnoxseb128, check this out13:19
xnoxupstream-system      PASS13:19
xnoxubuntu@dradis:~/udisks2-2.8.1$ uname -a13:19
xnoxLinux dradis 4.15.0-38-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 10 10:57:45 UTC 2018 ppc64le ppc64le ppc64le GNU/Linux13:19
* xnox upgrades kernel13:19
xnoxbut also this is baremetal, not in qemu.13:19
seb128we had an earlier identic failure with mdadm rc1 so might not be it13:23
seb128well diff between a fail and a working retry from decembre there are no package difference, same kernel version in the autopkgtest instance13:27
seb128seems it was flacky and now is just failing13:27
xnoxseb128, right, with v4.19 kernel got another flake (different), then a pass. Upgrading to new systemd from proposed now.13:47
xnoxto see if it stays flakey, or gets significantly worse.13:47
kenvandineoSoMoN: gnome-3-28-1804 in candidate includes gtk3-locales13:52
kenvandineoSoMoN: maybe you should do a test build of chromium using the gnome extension PR without your gtk3-locales part13:53
kenvandineoSoMoN: sorry... building chromium can't be fun :-D13:53
xnoxseb128, ok it passes, eventually with all proposed too.14:06
seb128:(14:06
xnoxseb128, i'll rerun the test one last time; then will request to add it to the "big packages" such that it gets a bigger VM14:06
xnoxseb128, then i don't know.14:06
seb128k14:06
xnoxi guess one has to dig into where the race is, and make tests probe and wait for things more.....14:06
oSoMoNkenvandine, ack, thanks! I'll test with libreoffice first, it builds an order of magnitude faster14:12
kenvandineawesome14:12
xnoxseb128, it passed =) today is a good day14:17
xnoxhttp://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/u/udisks2/disco/ppc64el14:17
seb128xnox, did you just retry or did you get a more powerful VM?14:17
xnoxseb128, simple retry14:17
xnoxit's not added to "big_packages" yet14:17
seb128hum, k14:17
seb128lucky then :)14:17
xnoxseb128, and the cloud is quiet at the moment, and doesn't have like 10,0000 of things running14:18
kenvandineoSoMoN: let me know when it's ready so i can test it too14:18
seb128xnox, so probably a case of "things are too slow and the test doesn't wait enough" :/14:18
xnoxin three harmonies.14:18
mdeslaurIs anyone chasing down the "auto-multiple-choice" package failing its autopkgtests because of a theming issue?14:20
seb128mdeslaur, I don't think so14:24
seb128mdeslaur, I can have a look, thanks for pointing it out14:25
mdeslaurthanks seb12814:25
jbichaseb128: I can look at auto-multiple-choice this weekend14:43
seb128jbicha, thx14:47
oSoMoNkenvandine, I unpacked the libreoffice snap built with the gnome extension, removed the gtk3 translations, repacked and installed, and it doesn't work, but I know why: we need to add "gnome-platform/usr/share/locale-langpack" to the list of paths in bindtextdomain.c14:53
kenvandineoh.. i thought we did that already :)14:54
kenvandineok, that's an easy fix14:54
kenvandineoSoMoN: can you suggest that to diddledan so he can add it to his PR?14:54
oSoMoNkenvandine, yes, I'll actually test it first, to make sure it's enough14:55
kenvandinecool14:55
jameshjbicha: hi.  I'll see if I can separate out the GTK inhibit portal changes for my work day tomorrow (it might just be the single commit, but I need to check if there's anything related)15:04
jbichajamesh: I was going to take a look this weekend so maybe wait until Monday to see what I come up with15:05
seb128jbicha, Laney, the gnome-desktop/bubblewrap fix doesn't have the warnings in bionic so it's only a problem with the cosmic version (also no warning in disco)15:06
jbichaseb128: ok let's add that to my list too :)15:07
seb128jbicha, thx15:07
jameshjbicha: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/commit/3fc319ff1be391430f23701673253e1c0994a0cc might be all that's needed15:07
jbichajamesh: oh I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about xdg-desktop-portal, so please look into that tomorrow and let me know if you need that (or any other commits) SRU'd to bionic15:09
kenvandinejbicha: are you planning a bionic SRU for xdg-desktop-portal?15:43
kenvandinejbicha: i have it built in a PPA for testing15:46
jbichakenvandine: I figured you were doing it since I saw your cosmic SRU in progress :)15:48
kenvandinejbicha: yeah.. i am planning to15:48
kenvandinejbicha: i didn't want you duplicating work15:48
jbichakenvandine: what's interesting to me is how the libflatpak issue intersects with https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/issues/16615:49
gitbotflatpak issue 166 in xdg-desktop-portal-gtk "possible unexpected attachments" [Closed]15:49
jbichaso I guess that will be for the next SRU15:49
acheronukjbicha kenvandine: would be appreciated to coordinate a SRU of the KDE portal with that15:52
acheronukSee: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2018-December/011748.html15:52
kenvandineacheronuk: yeah15:53
jbichaacheronuk: what kind of coordination did you have in mind?15:55
kenvandinei was thinking just letting you guys know when i upload xdg-desktop-portal to bionic15:56
jbichakenvandine: will xenial be getting xdg-desktop-portal 1.0.3 too?15:57
kenvandinejbicha: yes15:57
acheronuk^^^ more or less that. I'm not aware of any issue that mean they MUST be updated together, but I'll check into that as I don't know for sure15:57
kenvandineacheronuk: i have mentioned this to sitter15:58
jbichaseb128: could you subscribe desktop bugs to xdg-dbus-proxy LP: #181182416:00
ubot5Launchpad bug 1811824 in xdg-dbus-proxy (Ubuntu) "[MIR] xdg-dbus-proxy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181182416:00
acheronukkenvandine: ok. he is not doing any active k/ubuntu dev work now, so in practical terms implementation is for me16:00
acheronukor tsimonq2 if I am not around16:01
kenvandineacheronuk: ah, ok thanks16:01
seb128jbicha, k16:02
czajkowskic16:24
seb128jbicha, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/407988119/auto-multiple-choice_1.4.0-1_1.4.0-1+testubuntu1.diff.gz fixes the autopkgtest issue mentioned earlier, should I upload or do you want to try a better solution/to get something in Debian? (is that a gtk change to start warning about missing icons?)16:31
jbichaseb128: you can upload that if you like. The timing of the test failures started after https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaru-theme/19.04 there wasn't a gtk3 upload at the right time to be the failure trigger17:20
jbichaLaney: did we want to do a 3.31 git snapshot of mutter? because the gsettings-desktop-schemas conflict with mutter 3.30 is annoying17:23
jbichaother alternatives: we could remove the 3.31 g-d-s for now from disco-proposed or I could add dummy gsettings keys and drop the Breaks for now17:24
Laneyjbicha: Trevinho's worked on many build system issues17:27
Laneyit's probably best to wait for the next release given that17:27
Laneythe problem is they dropped keys? feel free to patch them back in imho17:27
Trevinhoor we use a snapshot, but...17:27
jbicharenamed keys :(17:27
jbichaok17:27
Laneyyou already told all in-archive consumers of those keys?17:28
Trevinhoif you want a current git snapshot for mutter talk now, or I won't do it later xD17:28
* Laney wouldn't bother, you go get the SRU finished :P17:28
Trevinhoyep I do agree17:28
Trevinhothe annoying stuff has been done anyway, so feel free to inherit my branch in case.17:29
jbichasure, I'll add the keys back since that will give us more time to make sure everything is working without holding things up17:31
willcookenight all18:14

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