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cyphermox#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team16:03
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cyphermox#topic Lightning rounds16:04
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cyphermoxecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)16:04
cyphermoxxnox infinity waveform sil2100 vorlon cyphermox tdaitx rbalint doko bdmurray mwhudson juliank16:04
cyphermoxwinner is xnox this week.16:04
xnoxoh really16:04
xnoxnot fair =)16:04
cyphermoxnot rigged =)16:05
tdaitxhe is setting up his new router16:05
xnox* systemd fun -> untangled migrations of related things, now down to just systemd/ppc64el16:05
cyphermoxxnox: need more time then?16:05
rbalinto/16:05
xnox* s390-tools srus16:05
xnox* upstream upgrades of mdadm/systemd-upstreaming.16:05
xnox* router hunter16:05
xnox(done)16:05
dokoxnox: really? still seeing arm6416:05
cyphermoxI suspect infinity isn't around?16:06
waveformokay, I'll go next then16:06
waveform* RPi.GPIO updated to work on aarch64 but may need SRU?16:06
cyphermoxyup16:06
xnoxdoko, i'm looking to get systemd migrate.... i need it to migrate such that triggered by things get better.... http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#systemd16:06
waveform* gpiozero updated to work on aarch64. Will either need SRU or backport16:06
waveform* wiringpi packaging (source v1!) needs updating16:06
waveform* testing pigpio under aarch64; not working yet16:06
waveform* tested current released on CM3; works but needs missing device-tree16:06
waveform* tested current release on 3B, 3B+, 3A+ - working fine16:06
waveform* still looking at kernel compression16:06
waveform(done)16:07
cyphermoxnice16:07
sil2100o/16:07
dokowaveform: you missed the archive training ;p16:07
bdmurrayxnox: Have you seen bug 1811071? also valgrind16:07
ubottubug 1811071 in The Ubuntu-power-systems project "Ubuntu19.04: valgrind does not properly handle the addex instruction (power9)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181107116:07
sil2100- Many kernel SRU reviews (new cycle)16:07
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases16:07
sil2100- DMB meeting16:07
sil2100- Fixing core18 snap builds caused by a locale-dependent test failing on builders16:07
sil2100- raspi3 'upstreaming':16:07
sil2100  * Pushing flash-kernel, raspi3-firmware and Dave's u-boot + irqbalancer to bionic16:07
sil2100  * Finished work-around hack for enabling multiverse in gadget tree builds on builders16:07
sil2100  * Got working cdimage raspi3 builds for disco16:07
sil2100  * Did a manual cpc livefs -proposed enabled raspi3 build - success!16:07
sil2100  * Confirmed reported possible issues with using raspi3-firmware on pi316:07
xnoxbdmurray, yes, valgrind with s390x fixes migrated. should upload that bit too.16:07
sil2100  * Prepared an updated linux-firmware-raspi2 + livecd-rootfs in PPA for testing16:07
sil2100  * Changed classic pi3-gadget to use different config.txt for armhf and arm6416:07
sil2100- Sent credentials for core-snap rebuilds to CPC16:07
sil2100- Fixed a typo in core-snap rebuilder jenkins script16:07
sil2100- Started looking into trello API and the available Python bindings16:07
sil2100- Sponsored irqbalancer and json-schema-validator for Dave16:07
sil2100- Performed NEW reviews of ec2-hibinit-agent and zhmcclient16:07
sil2100- Performed a few package removals16:07
sil2100(done)16:08
cyphermoxno vorlon today16:08
cyphermoxcyphermox:16:08
cyphermox- so. much. snow. shoveling.16:08
cyphermox- MIR reviews: libimagequant, gnome-remote-desktop, pipewire16:08
cyphermox- grub2: SRUs for signature checking, update-grub breadcumbs, LVM menu16:08
cyphermox- dkms/shim-signed: preparing SRUs for self-signing process16:08
cyphermox- update packagesets for DMB16:08
xnoxooh ooh, had an awesome meeting with IBM presenting z14 mainframe storage groups, over webex.... because they can't give us access.16:08
cyphermox- discussion with Microsoft on processes for shim reviews16:08
cyphermox- helping slashd with a new package (sosreport cleaner)16:08
cyphermox- reviewing http module to enable for grub EFI images16:08
cyphermox(done)16:08
cyphermoxtdaitx:16:09
tdaitx* openjdk-7 security update is on hold16:09
tdaitx  - hotspot patch backport is kind of a beast16:09
tdaitx  - upstream should be releasing the security updates soon anyway16:09
tdaitx* reviewing failed packages in the bionic rebuild16:09
tdaitx  - focusing on packages in main or packages that are (b-)deps of other main packages16:09
tdaitxOther:16:09
tdaitx- travelling Saturday to Europe16:09
tdaitx- working half-days next week in UTC+1 timezone, will try to match work time to join the squad/team meetings16:09
tdaitx- at FOSDEM in Brussels next weekend and the openjdk unconference on Monday (that translates to 3-5 February)16:09
tdaitx(done)16:09
rbalint* partner work16:09
tdaitxrbalint: go!16:09
rbalint* fixed meld's dependencies16:09
rbalint* backported wireshark 2.6.6 for *-security16:09
rbalint* fixed a bunch of unattended-upgrades regressions affecting Disco in git16:09
rbalint  https://github.com/mvo5/unattended-upgrades/pull/16616:09
rbalint* triaging the kubernetes vs. systemd-resolved issue16:09
rbalint(done)16:09
doko- GCC 9 packages are getting ready for upload to disco16:10
doko- GCC 8 updates, pending upload16:10
doko- openjdk-11 and openjdk-12 updates16:10
doko- finally started bionic test rebuilds (archive & planned OpenSSL/OpenJDK/Python/GCC updates)16:10
doko- MIR writing / reviews16:10
doko- transition fun the whole week ...16:10
doko- pestering people about addressing ftbfs and autopkg test failures, within the team and cross team. Not much success for both16:10
doko- getting mobbed by desktop team members about my automake workaround16:10
dokoand how long does http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html take to display for you?16:10
doko(done)16:10
bdmurrayooh, its me16:11
bdmurrayfixed Error Tracker mojo specification so it passes CI16:11
bdmurraysubmitted RT re live-ues-foundations Jenkins jobs16:11
bdmurraytested multiple systemd-resolved potential fixes for comcast mail servers16:11
bdmurraySRU verification of debootstrap for T, X, released B16:11
bdmurrayrebuilt oops-repository so the Depends on python-cassandra takes16:11
bdmurraytested livepatch not available notification for release upgrades16:11
bdmurraymerged livepatch not available notification to Disco, uploaded SRU for C16:11
bdmurrayverified livepatch notification bug LP: #1799310 for Cosmic16:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1799310 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Cosmic) "No warning when upgrading OS will turn off Livepatch" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179931016:11
bdmurrayuploaded ubuntu-release-upgrader, update-manager SRUs for 18.04, 18.1016:11
bdmurrayverified all (so many!) their bugs too16:11
bdmurrayuploaded intitramfs-tools SRU for 18.04 (LP: #1768230, #1561643)16:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1561643 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Bionic) "initramfs-tools ignores the FRAMEBUFFER option" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156164316:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1768230 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Bionic) "Long time booting : Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176823016:11
bdmurray✔  done16:11
bdmurrayjuliank:16:11
juliank * gnutls28 SRU ploaded16:11
juliank* apt CVE fix16:11
juliank* apt 1.8.0~beta1 releasing (lots of small branches merged!)16:11
juliank* apt hardening work (getting a bit stuck)16:11
juliankdone16:12
tdaitxdoko: update_excuses takes about 7~10 seconds16:12
dokoI need a new laptop16:12
xnoxbdmurray, the framebuffer option stuff looks interesting.16:13
xnoxbdmurray, it's "fixed" in disco too?16:13
cyphermoxdoko: why?16:13
cyphermox#topic Release incoming bugs16:13
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tdaitxdoko: it is displayed as soon as it starts loading and I can scroll down, still 7~10 seconds to load everything16:13
juliankdoko: 7.67seconds I measured on my t480s16:13
cyphermoxoh, time to load excuses, ok16:13
cyphermoxtook not long at all here.16:13
cyphermoxso; let's talk about the 18.04.2 bugs?16:14
* juliank measured using "Page load time" chrome extension16:14
bdmurraybug 181225816:14
ubottubug 1812258 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Bionic amd64 netboot image has incorrect permissions on kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181225816:14
bdmurrayI forget where those go again.16:14
bdmurrayOh, maybe I should have reloaded.16:15
bdmurraycyphermox: What about bug 1772374 for the point release?16:16
ubottubug 1772374 in OEM Priority Project "ubiquity need mount point /sys/firmware/efi/efivars" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177237416:16
cyphermoxbdmurray: yes16:16
cyphermoxthanks for reminding me, I'll get on it right after the meeting16:17
bdmurraycyphermox: So no card needed?16:17
cyphermoxno16:17
bdmurraycyphermox: I think xnox merged a ubiquity fix for bionic from slangasek too16:17
cyphermoxyeah, I'll go have a look at ubiquity in general16:17
xnoxbdmurray, i have merged an duploaded again16:19
cyphermoxfwiw it's as simple as merging https://code.launchpad.net/~swem/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/34666616:19
xnoxit should be in unapproved.16:19
xnoxthere is more?16:19
xnoxlooking16:19
cyphermoxxnox: oh, I can do it, no biggie16:19
xnoxseems legit.16:19
bdmurrayxnox: there is no ubiquity in the bionic queue16:19
xnoxhmmmm16:19
bdmurrayxnox: What about bug 1776626?16:20
ubottubug 1776626 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[18.10 FEAT] Support 4k sectors for fast clear key dm-crypt - crypttab part" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177662616:20
xnoxbdmurray, do not care.16:20
xnoxbdmurray, we never actually committed to backport all of that into bionic.16:20
bdmurrayxnox: What about bug 1760106?16:22
ubottubug 1760106 in klibc (Ubuntu Cosmic) "FFe: Enable configuring resume offset via sysfs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176010616:22
xnoxbdmurray, it's in disco, remaining tasks are unimportant.16:23
xnoxbdmurray, i kind of want to drop them to be fair.16:23
bdmurrayOkay, that was it for me.16:24
cyphermoxok16:25
cyphermoxmoving on to DD bugs?16:25
cyphermox#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs16:25
rbalinti think we could have LP: #1803993 on the radar for bionic, too16:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1803993 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Password appears on the VT1 screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180399316:25
cyphermoxrbalint: AFAIK that was fixed already16:26
cyphermoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/176791816:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1767918 in plymouth (Ubuntu Bionic) "Login password from GDM is shown in plain text on the VT1 console" [High,Fix released]16:26
xnox*sigh*16:26
xnoxbut but plymouth is supposed to be on vt116:27
rbalintcyphermox, seems like the fix ws not complete16:27
xnoxso should gdm16:27
xnoxwhy is there like handoff.vt=7 stuck somewhere?16:27
xnoxwhy, is there like handoff.vt=7 stuck somewhere?16:27
cyphermoxrbalint: doesn't tell much actually16:27
rbalinthttps://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/issues/408#note_36085716:27
rbalintcyphermox, it may turn out that the fix was complete, but the newer report seems to be valid16:29
cyphermoxrbalint: wanna look into it then?16:29
rbalintcyphermox, yes, it sounds important if it is not fixed yet16:30
bdmurrayxnox agreed to test it16:30
cyphermoxrbalint: I think what we were trying to say is that it likely is already fixed, and this could be caused by some extra bit laying around16:31
cyphermoxconfig and stuff16:31
cyphermoxlike vt.handoff not doing what it should.16:31
bdmurraythere isn't much new in the dd list16:31
bdmurrayalthough bug 1812688 is new16:31
ubottubug 1812688 in automake-1.16 (Ubuntu) "self-check-report.sh fails on armhf/disco since new year" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181268816:31
cyphermoxso sounds like xnox will test, and then we can look again16:31
cyphermoxok, misunderstanding16:32
dokobdmurray: I XFAIL'd it16:32
cyphermoxrbalint: you want to have a look at plymouth, see if our patch is solid, get more info from the reporter?16:32
cyphermoxdoko: thanks16:33
cyphermoxok next topic16:33
cyphermox#topic Team proposed-migration report16:33
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rbalintcyphermox, i'd try to reproduce then see if the suggestion on gnome's tracker fixes it16:33
cyphermoxok16:33
cyphermox#link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs16:34
dokoto shorten that ...16:34
dokowe need systemd migrating, and hints updating16:34
dokosil2100: ^^^16:34
dokoand blocking issues are: gsequencer coyote idlastro mothur ngraph-gtk redmine gap-io mir16:35
dokobesides to the latter everything else is unowned16:35
dokomaybe server cares about redmine16:35
xnoxso https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1812258 commented and marked incompleted16:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1812258 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Bionic amd64 netboot image has incorrect permissions on kernel" [Undecided,Incomplete]16:35
dokoescalated the kernel not migrating to gaughen and the kernel team16:36
dokocyphermox: do you have gaughen powers for this meeting? then please assign people to one of those issues above ;-P16:37
cyphermoxI don't have super powers, no16:38
cyphermoxI'm just throwing people under the buses16:39
cyphermoxsystemd sounds like xnox work, and he probably already is on top of it?16:39
xnoxi have local two patches to hopefully unfuck ppc64el16:39
bdmurraySo who will test e2fsprogs for Bionic?16:41
dokoso who volunteers for looking at gsequencer coyote idlastro mothur ngraph-gtk redmine gap-io mir16:41
doko?16:41
cyphermoxI said I'd try to do the patch, I can try to test e2fsprogs on bionic16:42
cyphermoxI haven't yet blown away my MAAS setup16:42
bdmurraycyphermox: okay, great16:42
sil2100I can look at mir16:43
dokosil2100: ta, that is entangled with capnproto16:44
rbalintpygments will migrate after new python16:44
cyphermoxdoko: coyote, mothur; maybe16:45
dokook, that leaves gsequencer idlastro ngraph-gtk redmine gap-io16:46
dokoin Rome they close doors until things are done ...16:46
cyphermoxidlastro looks to go with coyote for gnudatalanguage tbh16:46
rbalintdoko, i take redmine blindly16:47
dokorbalint: ta, please coordinate with server (ahasenack, cpaelzer)16:47
rbalintdoko, ok16:48
dokothat leaves gsequencer idlastro ngraph-gtk gap-io16:48
dokosil2100, waveform, bdmurray: ^^^16:48
gaughendoko, I don't see gsequencer on the update-excuses list16:49
dokogaughen: you see it on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output_notest.txt16:49
gaughenaaah, I was looking at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html16:50
dokogaughen: and it's on excuses as well, triggered by jack-audio-connection-kit16:50
gaughenI really don't see it on the link I pasted16:50
dokogaughen: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html16:51
cyphermoxok; we done with proposed-migration?16:51
dokowe still have gsequencer idlastro ngraph-gtk gap-io unaddressed16:51
cyphermoxI said I'm taking idlastro too16:52
dokosorry, but this sucks. the last two meetings we adjourned this discussion16:52
dokoand I have one more topic16:52
dokota16:52
cyphermoxI understand16:52
cyphermoxfwiw it smells like a gnudatalanguage real regression16:52
dokogsequencer ngraph-gtk gap-io16:52
dokoyep, I already pinged ginggs16:53
cyphermoxanybody not yet core-dev wants to play?16:53
dokowaveform: ^^^your turn ;p16:53
waveformI got the hint ;) Just looking at gap-io to see if I have the slightest clue what's up!16:53
bdmurrayI'll give that ngraph-gtk a look16:54
cyphermoxwaveform: ta. tbh, no clue what gap-io is at all ;P16:54
dokook, then I take gsequencer16:54
dokoplease note, you can come up with a fix or a work around16:55
dokocyphermox: next to AOB?16:55
sil2100waveform: once I untangle mir+capnproto, I can help you out since you're probably new to all this ;)16:55
cyphermoxyes.16:55
waveformsil2100, ta :)16:55
gaughendoko, so are they all taken now?16:56
cyphermox#topic AOB16:56
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cpaelzerrbalint: we have not investigated redmine yet, just skimmed it and thought it depends on ruby things which are in flight - if you take it (blindly or not) we'd appreciate16:56
xnoxsil2100, did mir get the MIR that they wanted for whatever new mir1.0 release?16:56
sil2100xnox: no clue, I don't follow mir development, I'll just have to look into that16:56
dokoxnox, sil2100: no, I asked security to priotize today. but it's a ftbfs now as well16:56
dokook, now there is a bionic test rebuild ... http://people.canonical.com/~doko/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20181220-disco.html16:57
dokoa lot of regressions ...16:57
sil2100xnox: anyway, I'll be looking at that tomorrow16:58
bdmurraydoko: bionic or disco test rebuild?16:58
dokobdmurray: should I file tagged bug reports so that these get attention within the different teams?16:58
dokoaohh, wrong URL: http://people.canonical.com/~doko/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20181222-bionic.html16:58
xnox/usr/lib/bin/capnp: not found16:59
xnoxsounds not fun16:59
sil2100xnox: you want to take mir?16:59
xnoxsil2100, i think so.16:59
sil2100Since you started investigating it now16:59
rbalintcpaelzer, i take a look, maybe some in-flight packages are stuck16:59
xnoxsil2100, i have history16:59
sil2100doko: ^16:59
sil2100waveform: so maybe I'll pick up gap-io then o/17:00
waveformyup, I'll take it17:00
waveformsorry, meant - no I can take a look17:00
waveform(til I get horribly stuck and come begging for help :)17:01
gaughendoko, security team has put yaml-cpp on top of the security review queue17:01
dokota17:01
cyphermoxand we're over time17:02
cyphermoxanything else to discuss?17:02
gaughendoko, did you get your other topic discussed?17:02
dokoso what about the bionic ftbfs?17:02
dokogaughen: no, not the last one17:02
cyphermoxthey need to be fixed...17:02
dokobdmurray, sil2100: so filing tagged reports?17:02
bdmurraydoko: about the ones in main?17:03
dokoyes, at least those. 26 ...17:03
sil2100doko: I'll look at libdbusmenu for sure, can look at a few others by the way17:03
bdmurraythat seems reasonable to me17:03
cyphermoxwe don't have to assign them right now in this meeting17:03
cyphermoxbut yes, they should be fixed17:03
dokosil2100: it's not about a single one, but how to proceed17:04
dokoso how should I tag them?17:04
sil2100I guess bdmurray might have better ideas, but I'd say a 'ftbfs' tag and affecting bionic should be enough?17:05
sil2100bdmurray: ^ what do you think?17:06
dokothey should show up on the 18.04 LTS report17:06
bdmurraysil2100: +117:07
gaughendoko, are these regressions?17:07
gaughenokay, xnox says yes these are regressions17:08
xnoxdoko, do you want to join the voice call? =)17:09
gaughendoko, was bionic ftbfs your last topic?17:09
sil2100doko: we could put them on the .2 milestone as well, but I'd like Adam as the driver to decide if that's the way to go17:09
sil2100So for now I'd say just the tags and nominations17:09
dokogaughen: they built before, so yes17:09
dokosil2100: can you make show up adam in a meeting?17:10
dokogaughen: yes, but I didn't get a reply yet17:11
xnoxdoko, hehe17:11
dokogaughen: maybe I just tag those as rls-cc-incoming17:11
gaughencc?17:11
dokoor whatover this tag is named17:11
cyphermoxdoko: "they need to get done, they will be done on an opportunity basis" is your reply I guess right now17:11
cyphermoxand tag was rls-bb-incoming  / ftbfs / bionic   or did I get that wrong?17:12
sil2100I wonder if we use the rls-**-incoming tasks for point releases17:12
sil2100Maybe we should17:12
cyphermoxIIRC we did17:12
dokoso how to flag them?17:12
cyphermoxto some degre anyway17:12
sil2100doko: ok, so fair point, add the rls-bb-incoming tag to it17:12
cyphermoxworst case is it won't be useful, but at least they will show up on the report17:13
sil2100So ftbfs rls-bb-incoming and a nomination to bionic, for now17:13
dokota. will file these17:13
dokook17:13
sil2100cyphermox: true, I hope Adam looks at that one!17:13
cyphermoxwell; it's useful for anyone who wants to make the release , and later the point release, shinier.17:14
sil2100Anyway, I will from now on for sure17:14
dokowhat I never understand is if I should close the bug task for the development series ...17:14
cyphermoxdoko: if it builds for the dev release, yeah,  no?17:14
dokowell yes, I can check that too17:14
cyphermoxsince fix does not apply to dev release17:14
cyphermoxanyway, just a guess17:14
cyphermoxok; closing meeting then?17:16
dokogaughen, cyphermox: we should have a format where things don't fall off17:17
dokolike rotating the different topics17:17
cyphermoxdoko: sorry, what?17:17
cyphermoxthe format to not drop bugs is the incoming/tracking reports, no?17:17
gaughendoko, you mean topics in our irc mtg here?17:17
cyphermoxfor meetings I use http://people.ubuntu.com/~cyphermox/meetings/foundations.html ; open to additions / changes17:17
dokothe ftbfs issues were delayed and adjourned for hte last two meetings. that should not happen17:17
dokojust rotate these topics except for the status reports and aob17:18
cyphermoxdoko: last meeting was special, no managers around. I'm not making decisions for the team without talking to our leaders.17:18
cyphermoxbefore last, I don't recall17:18
* doko ducks. which manager was present this meeting?17:19
cyphermoxgaughen was.17:19
gaughenI was here this week!17:19
gaughenand I still am17:19
cyphermoxdoko: or is that why you ducked ;D17:19
dokoanyway, I'd like to stay in the time limits, and address issues not for one area17:20
cyphermoxanyway, this sounds very #endmeeting17:20
dokofor just one area17:20
dokoso if lts issues fall out, that's ok as well17:20
cyphermoxdoko: if you think we should rotate every week so the meeting doesn't take 2 hours, I'm all for it. Let's check with vorlon who usually drives the meeting.17:20
cyphermox#endmeeting17:20
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Jan 24 17:20:49 2019 UTC.17:20
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-01-24-16.03.moin.txt17:20
cyphermoxdoko: I freestyled abit, added point release bugs this meeting and the last17:21
dokocyphermox: ta17:22

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