[00:00] <qwebirc62042> hi, having difficulty understanding the cmake instructions here:
[00:00] <qwebirc62042> https://github.com/piclas-framework/piclas/blob/master/INSTALL.md
[00:00] <qwebirc62042> specifically
[00:01] <qwebirc62042> "Configure the build using CMake; ENABLE_ triggers the build of the corresponding tool."
[00:01] <qwebirc62042> what does that mean?
[00:01] <qwebirc62042> what command would i use?
[00:01] <qwebirc62042> when i use ccmake ../ i'm brought to a GUI that i don't recognise and isn't documented
[00:01] <qwebirc62042> please help somebody!
[00:11] <woenx> hey. I managed to configure the fingerprint sensor on Ubuntu. I can log in with it and use it to run sudo commands. However, right after logging in, Ubuntu asks me for my password to unlock the "keyring" or something, making the fingerprint swipe useless. How can I solve this issue?
[00:12] <woenx> It seems it has something to do with this 2008 bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thinkfinger/+bug/276384
[01:00] <gartral> hey all, I have an odd little request... My laptop (HP EliteBook 8570p) has a software-controlled audio mute button.. it has a white and amber LED in it... I want to make it flash or alternate between white and amber when there's something actively using my microphone.. is there any guides on this?
[01:04] <Tin_man> gartral, better get you programming fingers going.. I kind of doubt it..
[01:08] <Randolf> How can I get my live WebCam to replace a green background with a specific PNG or JPeG image?  I'm using Ubuntu Linux 18.04 LTS.  Thanks.
[01:29] <phazon> Randolf: https://obsproject.com/
[01:30] <phazon> Open Broadcaster Software; it's what a sizeable chunk of streamers (YouTube, Twitch, etc) are using anyway
[01:32] <phazon> I think Snowden is using it as well for his telepresence talks and whatnot (can see the greenscreen glare thru his glasses)
[01:38] <Deihmos> is there a terminal command to see resources used?
[01:39] <phazon> Deihmos: 'top' is the default; there are others, such as 'htop' etc
[01:45] <Randolf> phazon:  The OBS Project won't start for me.  I've tried removing it and re-installing it.  So I looked at programs like Cheese but I can't figure out how to get it to work like this.
[01:45] <phazon> Deihmos: atop, nmon, sysstat, cpustat, saidar and tonnes of others that reinvent the wheel
[01:48] <phazon> Randolf: I've never tried to use it so cant offer support, but, there is a help tab at the top of their site that has support options (forum and discord chat); might wanna roll the dice and try one of those
[01:51] <phazon> Randolf: Did you compile from source or use their pre-built binaries? should try the former, as the latter can cause problems
[02:09] <phazon> Randolf: you could try to build the older "OBS Classic" thing mentioned on the bottom of the downloads page and see if there is success with that
[02:14] <SlidingHorn> Randolf: OBS is one of the very few times I actually recommend using a third party repository...which version and flavor of ubuntu are you using/
[02:27] <JonelethIrenicus> anyway to increase the left column size of geary?
[02:27] <JonelethIrenicus> its too small to read anything
[02:37] <JFox762> hi
[02:40] <JFox762> i keep getting this error message when I attempt a backup
[02:41] <JFox762> https://pastebin.com/aAntgd0h
[02:41] <JFox762> i keep getthing ^ that error
[02:41] <SlidingHorn> JFox762: what version & flavor of ubuntu?  Also, what is the exact command you're using to get this error?
[02:42] <JFox762> ubuntu 18.04, I think'
[02:42] <JFox762> yes it is 18.04
[02:43] <JFox762> @SlidingHorn
[03:09] <aneon> hi, I need some help with nginx. I have dbab pixel server running on port 80; which is important and I want it to run. When I start nginx it errors out saying a service is already active on port 80, I tried changing nginx port to 8080 thru sites-enabled/default but no joy. How can I set nginx to run on 8080?
[03:28] <sgian> hi all...just trying to figure out how to auto update a server...can anyone tell me what i'm missing
[03:28] <sgian> ?
[03:29] <sgian> tried crontab, which should run as root, correct?
[03:30] <sgian> tried cron-apt...2 to 3 config files...seems like an intentional bar for entry...there has to be something that i'm missing
[03:34] <dizzymonk> Any Programmer for Python??
[03:49] <kinghat> if i do `python --version` it comes back with the 2 variant. and `python3 --version` shows the python 3 version. which is the default for the system?
[03:50] <sgian>  shouldn't it just be as simple as "autoupdate daily --enable 0400"?
[05:05] <sparr> I am trying to get hibernate to work in Ubuntu 18.10. I've made the config changes in this gist, but am still getting one kernel PM error in the log when I hibernate and no mention of hibernation at all in the kernel log when I resume: https://gist.github.com/sparr/d503a3983efa2a4341c506722c2cc728
[05:26] <DarwinElf> how do you upgrade your kernel on Ubuntu?
[05:27] <DarwinElf> (I want to use one of the newest ones that the Linux kernel developers have categorized as stable, even if Ubuntu hasn't yet except if you enable testing packages or something)
[05:30] <CrazyH> murthy, sorry man I was busy working. No I have not yet found a solution for the x11vnc issue :-(
[05:44] <SlidingHorn> aneon: Take a look here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10829402/how-to-start-nginx-via-different-portother-than-80
[05:45] <SlidingHorn> kinghat: the short answer is "both" - different applications depend on different versions of python
[05:45] <SlidingHorn> !kernel | DarwinElf
[05:45] <SlidingHorn> !mainline | DarwinElf also see here
[05:47] <DarwinElf> i don't need to compile it, but I want something a little newer that has improvements/bugfixes for my display/video/graphics card drivers.  The kernel I currently have is relatively old now
[05:47] <DarwinElf> !mainline
[05:47] <SlidingHorn> DarwinElf: what version and flavor of ubuntu are you running?
[05:47] <DarwinElf> Kubuntu 18.04
[05:50] <SlidingHorn> and what kernel are you looking to use?
[05:50] <DarwinElf> latest stable that's in the archive linked on that page
[05:51] <DarwinElf> i.e., 4.20.3
[05:51] <SlidingHorn> Exactly which module or patch are you basing this decision on?
[05:51] <DarwinElf> AMDGPU
[05:52] <DarwinElf> there are several improvements for several versions since 4.17
[05:52] <SlidingHorn> which version has the update you need to run?
[05:52] <DarwinElf> 4.18, 4.19, possibly also 4.20, but it's stable anyway
[05:52] <SlidingHorn> (i.e. what you're looking to do is not supported.  You should only do this if you know exactly what you're doing)
[05:53] <DarwinElf> yeah, it's easy.  I've done this on more difficult OSes
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: what exactly is the problem with your current amdgpu?
[05:53] <DarwinElf> well you can read about the various improvements/bugfixes if you want to
[05:54] <hggdh> DarwinElf: just please keep in mind that these we *mainline* kernels. No Ubuntu patches or adjustments.
[05:54] <DarwinElf> it's bad enough some GPU things freeze my PC
[05:54] <hggdh> s/we/are/
[05:54] <DarwinElf> what are 'Ubuntu patches or adjustments?'  I hadn't usually used an OS that does that at all
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: are you affected by an existing bug on amdgpu?
[05:57] <hggdh> DarwinElf: there are local patches applied to the kernels at Ubuntu, or specific kernel options. The mainline kernels are expected to be used to *test* if an issue is caused by the local patches, or is present in the upstream code
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: also before playing with kernels, i would compare the amdgpu driver vs the amdgpu from amd as a test
[05:57] <DarwinElf> oh.  I can wait if I have to
[05:58] <DarwinElf> i have the one from AMD.  Still I think it may use part of what's in the kernel
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: so, what was wrong with the one from ubuntu?
[05:58] <DarwinElf> i.e., I have AMDGPU-PRO... but it's far from perfect
 there are several improvements for several versions since 4.17, <DarwinElf> it's bad enough some GPU things freeze my PC
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: on both amdgpu drivers the same problems?
[06:01] <DarwinElf> i'm using the compute drivers, which are only in AMDGPU-PRO.  I just didn't know maybe that the Free/Libre/Opensource display part of the driver is not at all used at the same time
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: also, are you sure its your graphics card that makes system freeze, and not kubuntu eyecandy that lags?
[06:03] <DarwinElf> it's certain computing only that makes it freeze.  I have most 'eyecandy' turned off
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: have you tested for example a 18.04.1 ubuntu-desktop on gnome?
[06:03] <DarwinElf> i'm not going to
[06:04] <DarwinElf> do you know what I mean by graphics computing?  The display is not even involved
[06:04] <DarwinElf> now I see I could upgrade from 18.04 to 18.04.1 if I don't already have that
[06:05] <DarwinElf> actually I apparently my more specific version already is 18.04.1
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: its your system, you can decide what to test and whatnot
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: my point is, we have many users with stock amdgpu working nicely by default here
[06:08] <DarwinElf> that's not what my point is.  I'm using AMDGPU-PRO to use the GPU as a CPU.  With only certain programs that do that, sometimes it eventually freezes.  This is a different issue than the other users
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: if you need help debugging it more, can you provide us your logs/errors?
[06:10] <DarwinElf> i don't know where the logs are.  Anyway I found out there have been several new releases of AMDGPU-PRO since then.  I'll try one of those.  So were people saying, if I use that, it doesn't use the plain AMDGPU at all, so it can't be related to that?
[06:11] <DarwinElf> if I find the logs I'll ask on a forum related to the specific software
[06:11] <DarwinElf> if it even happens after the upgrade
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: the upgrade to?
 [...] Anyway I found out there have been several new releases of AMDGPU-PRO since then
[06:12] <DarwinElf> 18.50 of that driver (I'm on an even earlier 18.30 than the latest of that)
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: if i was you, i would approach this systematic aka: test the stock driver from ubuntu on LTS first, if you have problems, find ther errors/bug first after that doesnt help you can play with other drivers/kernels
[06:18] <DarwinElf> you mean the driver from the Linux kernel?
[06:18] <DarwinElf> as said, it won't do everything I want
[07:02] <dan2wik> I hot removed a bad drive but it appears it's io file still exists as /dev/sdc. Reading or writing to the device shows its 4GB and reads/writes at 6GB/s. I guess the device that remains is a ram drive?
[07:03] <dan2wik> There is a corresponding 4GB of unknown memory usage I can't seem to work out where else it could have gone. Is there a way to force it to eject or something?
[07:20] <gartral> Tin_man that's a slight problem, I can't code for the life of me
[07:36] <ubuntunewbie> hi
[07:36] <ubuntunewbie> does ubuntu have spyware?
[07:36] <ubuntunewbie> i kinda read it integrated amazon
[07:38] <ducasse> you need to actively enable that now to see online amazon ads
[07:40] <ubuntunewbie> @ducasse so its not on by default
[07:40] <ubuntunewbie> right?
[07:41] <ducasse> it was once, in older releases, but not anymore
[07:41] <ubuntunewbie> hey im planning on buying a NUC5CPYH
[07:41] <ubuntunewbie> was wondering if ubuntu can be isntalled on thios
[07:42] <ducasse> a lot of people are running ubuntu on nucs with good results
[07:42] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: ^^ comments?
[07:43] <ubuntunewbie> yeah i just wanna know since im gonna buy from a seller
[07:44] <ubuntunewbie> also i read not all nuc support ubuntu
[07:44] <ubuntunewbie> thats why i asked
[07:46] <ducasse> if it's a very, very recent model it might take a little time for drivers and firmware to catch up, but try googling ubuntu + model number
[07:46] <r1nt3c> test
[07:50] <ubuntunewbie> is ubuntu core also called ubuntu server
[07:50] <ubuntunewbie> or are they different
[07:51] <ducasse> different
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> ubuntunewbie: the new nucs are very ubuntu friendly, just make sure you update bios to latest before install
[07:56] <ubuntunewbie> @lotuspsychje how bout the older one like NUC5CPYH
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> ubuntunewbie: also works, same story make sure you update bios first
[08:06] <ducasse> ubuntunewbie: from what i can find online, seems they should work fine. some users say to install in legacy mode if you have problems installing in uefi mode
[08:33] <slereah-work> soup
[08:33] <slereah-work> oops
[08:34] <slereah-work> wrong channel
[08:41] <ubuntunewbie> how do i filter out the chat to get rid of all the "user has quit irc"
[08:41] <ubuntunewbie> or has joined irc
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> ubuntunewbie: in your irc client, you can normally choose to not show joins/parts
[08:42] <ducasse> !quietirc
[08:42] <ducasse> ubuntunewbie: ^^
[08:42] <ubuntunewbie> !quietirc
[08:42] <ubuntunewbie> im using web
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> ubuntunewbie: wich web?
[08:46] <ducasse> ubuntunewbie: ask in #freenode, maybe they can tell you what the web frontend supports
[09:24] <whoami> moin
[09:39] <jorge_> tengo una pc bastante limitada, me gustaría saber cual entorno escritorio es el mas liviano?
[09:40] <jorge_> desde ya muchas gracias
[09:41] <ducasse> !es
[09:53] <rhoks> how can I restart my synaptics touchpad driver?
[09:56] <legreffier> rhoks: just restart xorg, log out of you session and log back in.
[09:57] <erle-> What do the donation categories on Ubuntu.com mean? (e.g. «Community projects»)
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> erle-: where do you see that?
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> erle-: ah i guess here: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> erle-: community projetcs, are projects continued by the ubuntu community, for example unity, or community theme, ubports etc
[10:07] <erle-> lotuspsychje, I want to donate 200USD after using Ubuntu for 12 years now, but I don't know yet how to split it :)
[10:07] <erle-> community means community software projects?
[10:07] <erle-> or does it mean «laptops for African schools» projects?
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> erle-: yes
[10:07] <erle-> and what does Tip mean?
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> erle-: surely means donate to canonical
[10:10] <rhoks> legreffier, wait when there is a system reboot xorg is restart though so I think restarting xorg won't solve my problem
[10:12] <rhoks> I accidently turned off my touchpad using keyboard shorcut but the same key won't enable it again and I've faced this problem before but can't entirely remember how I fixed it, I remember installing synaptics and maybe rebooting the entire system which I did
[10:12] <rhoks> maybe next step should be to uninstall synaptics and reinstall it
[10:13] <erle-> lotuspsychje, how is it different than donating for example for the desktop?
[10:15] <blackflow> erle-: you're overthinking this. those categories are only a statistical metric for canonical about user preferences. you like the desktop? add to tha category. server? there. tip to canonical is just a generic "here, have some monies" tip.
[10:15] <erle-> okay, thanks, bl
[10:16] <erle-> blackflow,
[10:22] <mra90> is restart necesssery after setting $PATH?
[10:24] <blackflow> mra90: setting where? reboot's not needed, but processes/sessions that you want to see the new PATH should themselves be restarted or respawned
[10:25] <mra90> blackflow: I have a command not found issue
[10:25] <mra90> I set up $PATH pointing to that binary directory
[10:25] <blackflow> set up where
[10:25] <mra90> terminal
[10:25] <blackflow> ...
[10:26] <mra90> blackflow: what?
[10:26] <blackflow> did you export PATH=....   or did you set it permanently in a shell rc?
[10:26] <mra90> is used this
[10:26] <mra90> export PATH=~/path_to_bin/:$PATH
[10:27] <blackflow> right, so that's valid only for that one shell session
[10:27] <mra90> okay and all I do is just in this one session
[10:28] <mra90> so as from now shell should recognize all binaries from that direcory right?
[10:28] <blackflow> in which case you don't need to restart anything. btw PATH should not be listing the binary directly, but it's conaining directory.
[10:28] <mra90> yes I know
[10:28] <mra90> the question is why it doesn't see it
[10:28] <blackflow> what are you doing exactly so it "doesn't see it"?
[10:29] <blackflow> is the binary executable?
[10:29] <mra90> blackflow: in that folder which I exported to PATH there is a binary, let;s say spec-gcc
[10:29] <mra90> so I call it from shell now simply by : spec-gcc
[10:29] <mra90>  and get command not know ;/
[10:29] <blackflow> is it executable?
[10:29] <mra90> yes
[10:31] <blackflow> mra90: is it a shell script you wrote, or something?
[10:31] <mra90> ok looks like the path is set wrong
[10:34] <hexhaxtron> Can someone help me make the Compose Key work with GNOME Shell?
[10:37] <qwebirc49026> I am trying the UBUNTU application on windows, Is there any smooth way to assign discspace for that while in Windows?
[10:42] <blackflow> !wsl | coachbjork
[10:43] <coachbjork> Thanks blackflow, It was easy enough.. all my discs where already mounted and accessable
[10:45] <blackflow> hexhaxtron: perhaps if you explained your problem in more detail, someone knowledgeable might help.
[10:46] <hexhaxtron> blackflow, I'm using GNOME Tweaks and the Compose Key is set to Right Alt. However, I can't make accents like: the cedilha (ç), acute accent (á, é, í, ó, ú), circumflex accent (â, ê, ô), tilde (ã, õ), and grave accent (à).
[10:47] <hexhaxtron> blackflow, the Compose Key does work with Plasma and Englightenment however but not with GNOME Shell.
[10:48] <blackflow> hexhaxtron: do you even need the compose key? the alt-gr key works on keyboards that support those characters in their alt positions, without configuring anything special in tweaks
[10:48] <blackflow> like this:  ç
[10:48] <blackflow> standard qwertz keyboard, bionic, nothing special configured
[10:48] <frad> hi, I need an app to take a screenshot of a whole webpage
[10:48] <hexhaxtron> blackflow, yes, I need it. I'll try changing it to for example right ctrl.
[10:48] <frad> what would you recommend?
[10:49] <blackflow> hexhaxtron: the reason I ask is because alt-gr already does that and if you define it as "Compose key", it might stop doing that
[10:49] <blackflow> frad: firefox' own screenshotting tool
[10:49] <hexhaxtron> blackflow, I'm using Programmer Dvorak as the keyboard layout by the way.
[10:50] <hexhaxtron> blackflow, I changed it to right ctrl and it's the same thing.
[10:50] <blackflow> hexhaxtron: I'm not sure I can help you with that then, sorry.
[10:50] <frad> blackflow, any linux based solution?
[10:50] <blackflow> frad: firefox works on linux.
[10:52] <frad> blackflow, sorry, ill rephrase. A work colleage works with IE and needs a screenshot of a backup directory. Years ago I used a cross platform program to screenshot whole webpages, but I forgot its name
[10:52] <blackflow> that makes even less sense.
[10:53] <blackflow> you want to screenshot a web page? to even see it you need a browser. so, like, firefox. and firefox has the buit-in tool that can save the entire web page as an image file.
[10:53] <blackflow> unless you mean something completely different by "screenshot whole webpages"
[10:54] <blackflow> (and FF is cross platform)
[10:57] <frad> blackflow, I see, I saved the page as a pdf file
[10:58] <blackflow> frad: so, you wanted PDFs and not "screenshots" which are commonly known as images?   there's a webkit based command line tool that can convert html to pdf but it's..... flaky.
[10:58] <blackflow> !info wkhtml2pdf
[10:59] <blackflow> !info wkhtmltopdf
[10:59] <frad> no blackflow . Ideally I would have the whole page as a jpg or png or whatever, but printing the page to pdf works also
[11:00] <blackflow> seems to me you want something that you can automate from a command line, since you're avoiding the most obvious and natural solution: the web browser itself.
[11:01] <blackflow> and wkhtmltopdf comes with a wkhtmltoimage tool as well it seems. never used it myself.
[11:07] <mattiasb> Hi all! I have produced an unattended OS installation image that I've used to great success. However, on some of our machines we have multiple disks and  I want to know how Ubuntu chooses the default installation target.
[11:15] <frad> thx blackflow
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:23] <NTQ> Kennt jemand einen Dateimanager für Ubuntu, der so gut ist wie nemo, aber so wenig abstürzt wie thunar? :-D
[11:24] <EriC^^> !de | NTQ
[11:24] <NTQ> uh, wrong tab. sorry
[11:25] <NTQ> Does anybody know a good file manager with functions like nemo but with less crashes like thunar? nautilus combines the worst of both.
[11:27] <pcworld> On cosmic, apt install virtualbox: E: Package 'virtualbox' has no installation candidate -- I've enabled multiverse, done apt update and it still doesn't find it, but it should exist according to https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/virtualbox, what am I doing wrong?
[11:28] <vinxz> Hi guys, I have a problem. I get from my ISP on ppp0 a /64 ipv6. I  want to setup all addresses of this /64 .... what's the way to do it?
[11:29] <BluesKaj> pcworld, make sure the multiverse sources are enable in your sources.list
[11:29] <BluesKaj> enabled
[11:29] <blackflow> !info virtualbox cosmic
[11:30] <pcworld> BluesKaj: that's what I did, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2NtjyByY8t/
[11:31] <blackflow> pcworld: no, that's deb-src for source packages. you need those lines with just   deb   at the beginning
[11:31] <blackflow> (you can keep these if you wanna be able to install source packages)
[11:32] <pcworld> blackflow: thanks, works now (and sorry for the stupid question)
[11:33] <blackflow> np
[11:35] <dan2wik> I unplugged a sata drive from a hotswap bay but /dev/sdc still exists. How do I fix this?
[11:38] <dan2wik> Oh. /dev/sdc was no longer a block device and was instead a file. rm fixed it.
[11:38] <radkos> hello I 'm trying to create systemd daemon using screen
[11:39] <radkos> can you help me out with it
[11:39] <radkos> what type of Service it should be forking or else?
[11:44] <blackflow> dan2wik: not sure that's the correct solution. ideally you want the kernel to rescan devices. like running partprobe, and tehre was a trick with sysfs where you could force scsci rescan (google should help with that)
[11:44] <blackflow> *scsi rescan
[11:45] <blackflow> I mean manual intervention  under /dev is never a solution.
[11:45] <blackflow> radkos: for which command exactly? type depends on the command it will execute
[12:02] <radkos> screen -dmS SendEmailOnCall /usr/local/sbin/asterisk_sendmail.pl
[12:02] <radkos> blackflow, this is the command
[12:03] <radkos> AllowIsolate=true but none of that helped
[12:03] <radkos> i tried with RemainAfterExit=yes
[12:03] <radkos> Requires=dbus.socket
[12:10] <blackflow> radkos: why are you defining a service to run screen which will run a a perl script?  o.O   why not write a service straight for the perl script?
[12:11] <blackflow> otherwise, running screen is a foreground task, so Type=simple should in theory be the correct type.   forking is for forking daemons that exit after spawning children
[12:14] <jaco> i need help installing my rtl-sdr
[12:20] <radkos> blackflow, it's because it would be good to access the screen and see the output there - for debuging purposes
[12:20] <radkos> the script prints content and sends it preformatted to the desired email
[12:20] <blackflow> radkos: stdout is logged by journal anyway, so you can see its output that way.
[12:22] <blackflow> radkos: unless that is some interactive program that might require you to reattach later and.... interact with it, just use a service for the perl script directly. stdout is logged. otherwise, you might wish to drop that -d from screen invocation and let it remain in the foreground
[12:22] <blackflow> _or_ use type=forking but I have no idea howthat would affect screen. it was never designed to be run like that.
[12:23] <radkos> blackflow, indeed tnx :) if i need i can access journalctl it is a lot simplier that way
[12:24] <blackflow> definitely :)
[12:24] <radkos> i completely forgot about the journalctl :D
[12:50] <muhaha> Does anyone know how this is working? https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/linux/login-using-aad   (Oauth authentication in Ubuntu)
[12:51] <muhaha> AFAIK only option so far is LDAP, right?
[13:04] <coconut> How can i configure a second time(UTC) under ub-mate?
[13:24] <tomreyn> coconut: this is old, but i suspect it still works: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1204581
[13:25] <tomreyn> (see post #4)
[13:36] <muhaha> How to override server in this kubectl config https://pastebin.com/sVi0nTpY ? I am trying kubectl config set clusters.cluster.server "https://$DOCKERHOST:$DOCKERPORT"  --cluster "1" , but does not work. It is createing new cluster section in config. So how to reference --name ?
[13:38] <tomreyn> try a kubernetes related channel, i'd say.
[13:52] <coconut> tomreyn: yeah i found that feature already, but it doesn't some with an UTC option in the list. And so useless i guess.
[13:52] <dirtwash> anyone know how to force a NIC to an interface? My udev rules are being ignored
[13:54] <blackflow> dirtwash: you can use a .link systemd unit, Match by MAC or whatever.  see the systemd.link(5) manpage
[14:01] <skela_> buongiorno, cercavo di reinstallare apache2 sulla mia vps con ubuntu 16.04 (ho purgato apache2 e apache2-util) adesso quando reinstallo ho questo messaggio https://arin.ga/bNmQ1C
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> !it | skela_
[14:03] <skela_> goodmorning, tryng to reinstall apache2 i broke my vps. i did purge for apache2 and apache2-util and then if i try to install apache2 again with apt-get i get this error message https://arin.ga/bNmQ1C
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> skela_: what is your ubuntu and kernel version please?
[14:04] <skela_> lotuspsychje, ubuntu 16.04 and 4.15.0-43-generic kernel
[14:05] <muhaha> #tomreyn, lol missclick, sry
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> skela_: dependency problems often occur when adding external ppa's, do you have some added?
[14:08] <skela_> lotuspsychje, no ppa installed i get all errors after apache2 purge
[14:10] <dirtwash> blackflow: i tried, doesnt work eiter, weirdly ip addr shows the interface as 'rename4', not sure why
[14:10] <dirtwash> but its still bound to wrong mac/nic
[14:10] <hggdh> skela_: did you run apt update?
[14:10] <skela_> hggdh, yes, nothing to do.. i get the same error
[14:11] <blackflow> dirtwash: can you pastebin relevant configs and explanation what _exactly_ are you trying to achieve? is it just a revert to old ethX name scheme?
[14:11] <zipper> Hey, I'm making a bootable flash drive for an old ubuntu sys. I believe I need to have it have a bootable flag else the flash drive won't boot.
[14:12] <zipper> So what I'm doing is using fdisk to create a flash drive with one MBR parition with a bootable flag on
[14:12] <zipper> then using dd  to write not to sdX but to sdXN
[14:13] <zipper> What do you think of this approach? I feel that it's the wrong way to use dd and it'll undo the bootable flag anyway
[14:13] <blackflow> zipper: how old? Ubuntu ISOs already contain all the partitioning and flags required for booting. you can't dd an ISO designed like that, to a partition, won't work.
[14:13] <dirtwash> blackflow: nvm found a workaround
[14:13] <dirtwash> thanks
[14:14] <skela_> there is no way to fix that? https://arin.ga/bNmQ1C
[14:14] <zipper> blackflow: Well I'm not sure how old. It's a HP 290 G1 microtower https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-290-g1-microtower-pc/16665152
[14:15] <hggdh> skela_: the thing there is figuring out what is wrong in your server
[14:15] <zipper> When I try to use a bootable flash drive that I created using dd it just won't work idk why.
[14:15] <zipper> Like I select in the bios to boot it but it boots the same old thing.
[14:15] <blackflow> zipper: I meant Ubuntu. you said "old ubuntu sys" and I assumed you wanna install an earlier version of Ubuntu
[14:15] <skela_> hggdh, the issue appear after run this: sudo apt remove --purge apache2 apache2-utils
[14:15] <zipper> blackflow: Oh the ubuntu sys is 14.04
[14:16] <zipper> *14.01
[14:16] <skela_> that line broke my server, should i reinstall a new os?
[14:16] <hggdh> skela_: do you have the repositories bionic-updates and bionic-security enabled?
[14:16] <zipper> It's biolinux really which is based on 14.01
[14:16] <blackflow> zipper: otehrwise, if the BIOS of that machine is unable to boot from USB (and older ones, like 10-ish years ago or more), then there's nothing you can do
[14:16] <skela_> hggdh, how to check that? i'm in 16.04
[14:16] <blackflow> heh... 15-ish years or more. I keep forgetting it's already 2019
[14:17] <zipper> It's an i5 so I think it can boot a flash drive. It does show up in the options
[14:18] <blackflow> zipper: have you ruled out the possibility that the USB drive is broken, the image you dd'ed corrupted?
[14:18] <zipper> blackflow: I haven't
[14:19] <zipper> I'll try with a different flash drive.
[14:19] <zipper> the image could be crap tbh
[14:19] <hggdh> skela_: something does not match. The packages that fail to install belong to *bionic*, not xenial
[14:19] <hggdh> skela_: you can verify that by running rmadison apache2-utils, for example
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> skela_: maybe also pastebin us your sources.list please?
[14:21] <skela_> hggdh, i am unable to install anything i can run rmadison
[14:22] <skela_> lotuspsychje, sources.list here https://arin.ga/MJuS1K
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> skela_: software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[14:26] <hggdh> skela_: there you go. Your sources.list is sort of weird. Pretty much the ONLY pockets you have enabled are the security ones.
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> skela_: you are on a digital ocean VPS i presume?
[14:27] <skela_> lotuspsychje, yes
[14:27] <hggdh> skela_: and the sources.list has been manually changed, it is not the expected default on DO
[14:27] <skela_> i will create a new vps
[14:28] <hggdh> skela_: and, finally, you seem to be running Bionic (18.04)
[14:28] <Evie> Ahh, what a messy situation with the nvidia-410 drivers in the graphics repo
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> Evie: whats happening?
[14:30] <Evie> Seems like the nvidia-driver-410 depends don't quite line up
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> Evie: wich graphics card chipset do you have please?
[14:30] <Evie> Lik 410.78 desired vs 410.89 to be installed
[14:30] <Evie> nVidia GTX 1060
[14:30] <Evie> (the other machine is a GTX 960)
[14:31] <Evie> The end-goal is to have CUDA running as well as the i386 compatibility libraries for OpenGL
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> Evie: try to purge 410 and try 415
[14:31] <Evie> Roger roger
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> Evie: if that doesnt work come back to us ok
[14:32] <Evie> Sure
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> Evie: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[14:33] <Evie> 18.04
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> Evie: allright thanks, also make sure your system is up to date
[14:33] <Evie> (rolls back to 16.04)
[14:34] <Evie> (just kidding)
[14:38] <Evie> I'm downloading the 415 drivers now
[14:38] <xubuntu30w> Hello, I have a small question. A while ago, I removed the standard programming interface for Python. Now I want it back. What is the package name? Can I install it via the software centre or what is the name for the terminal installation?
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> Evie: with downloading you mean the ubuntu graphics ppa right?
[14:38] <Evie> After purging nvidia-dkms-410 nvidia-kernel-common-410 nvidia-kernel-source-410, which I think I had installed for the nVidia CUDA repo, I'm back on track with the graphic repo
[14:39] <Evie> Yeah, out of the ubuntu graphics ppa
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> Evie: ok good
[14:40] <Evie> I suspect something isn't right in the nvidia repo from nvidia proper for cuda
[14:42] <Evie> I'm just going to excise their repo and stick to the .run file provided for now
[14:44] <Evie> well, it's reboot time. Moment of truth.
[14:45] <qwebirc18034> Hello, lads. I've experienced some random crashes on my Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS... After I stopped using any gnome-shell extensions, I think everything's back to normal. Do you a know a fix about this problem? There're some JS errors in the log files.
[14:47] <qwebirc52219> Hi Ubuntu freeze when I open programs
[14:53] <sjoshi> Hello, I am going into.emergency mode
[14:53] <Evie> NVIDIA-SMI 415.27       Driver Version: 415.27       CUDA Version: 10.0
[14:53] <Evie> Thanks lotuspsychje
[14:53] <sjoshi> And file system check reaches 50.2% and again puts me to emergency mode
[14:53] <daniah> hi
[14:54] <Evie> (from nvidia-smi after booting)
[14:54] <sjoshi> Ubuntu 18.10
[14:56] <teward> sjoshi: seeing the actual errors (a picture of the screen and the erors its showing) would be helpful, because we need to figure out *why* you're dropping to emergency mode first :P
[14:57] <xubuntu30w> Hello, I have a small question. A while ago, I removed the standard programming interface for Python. Now I want it back. What is the package name? Can I install it via the software centre or what is the name for the terminal?
[15:05] <sjoshi> teward: it is due to.corrupt file system
[15:05] <sjoshi> It drops me to the root prompt
[15:07] <sjoshi> Fsck says /dev/sda9 is mounted
[15:12] <qwebirc76136> After logging in I get this "INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks"
[15:32] <tomreyn> sjoshi: you should not run fsck on a mounted file system. there is one exception, twhich is a read-only (ro) mounted file system you just cannot scan otherwise, usually that's only / (but scanning it from a live system may be better).
[15:33] <sjoshi> tomreyn: any other method, i can try.I dont have a live disk
[15:34] <tomreyn> sjoshi: i assume your /dev/sda9 is what contains / (the file system root). if so, and since it (based on what you reported) seems to fail during the read-only fsck it performs automatically at boot, scanning it from a live system is necessary.
[15:34] <sjoshi> Hmm ok, single user mode will help?
[15:35] <sjoshi> tomreyn:
[15:35] <tomreyn> sjoshi: you really should always have a live / installer system of the same ubuntu version handy, or at least have a way to produce one while your computer no longer boots.
[15:35] <sjoshi> Hmm Agree!
[15:35] <ioria> sjoshi, single will mount rw, iirc
[15:35] <tomreyn> sjoshi: the automatic fsck of / performed during boot does take place during what used to be single user mode. so this won't help.
[15:36] <tomreyn> sjoshi: is this a dual boot system by chance?
[15:37] <tomreyn> and do you have a usb attachable storage you could store a live system / installer on?
[15:38] <sjoshi> Dual boot yes, usb stick need to check
[15:39] <sjoshi> I would need to create a live USB by logging into other operating system
[15:39] <tomreyn> sjoshi: if you have a usb storage you can use, boot into the other OS, download the ubuntu 18.10 live / installer iso and use https://etcher.io to write it to the usb storage.
[15:39] <sjoshi> And then perform disk check
[15:40] <sjoshi> Hmm let me see
[15:40] <danrod> interesting
[15:40] <fuxaches> Can anyone help explain and possibly help fix why; When I use terminal to SSH into a local network machine, that it asks me for credentials of root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx instead of user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  ??????
[15:42] <ioria> fuxaches, use   ssh user@server-ip
[15:43] <tomreyn> sjoshi: you can then override boot device order during boot (consult your mainboard manual on how to do this, usually ayou will need to press some Fnn function key), and boot off this usb storage. once it's booted, choose to "try ubuntu" and then run e2fsck -f against the ubuntu / partition
[15:44] <tomreyn> sjoshi: you may also want to add the -p option to e2fsck. consider also running it against all other ext* file systems which are part of the ubuntu installation, such as /boot (if separate)
[15:44] <fuxaches> loria: Thx. I was more curious as to why this is happening and hoping the fix was to make it like normal. The SSH should already ask me credentials for the user I am on the local machine - not as root. The command line shows me as user@Ubuntu, yet when I SSH it SSH's me in as root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ......
[15:45] <tomreyn> sjoshi: finally, i'd also run a smart short test (-t short) and examine the data it gathered (-x), see !smart
[15:45] <tomreyn> !smart > sjoshi
[15:47] <sjoshi> tomreyn: thanks got the usb stick
[15:47] <tomreyn> fuxaches: by default, ssh will try to authenticate using the *local* user name.
[15:47] <sjoshi> Let me see what best i can do
[15:47] <tomreyn> fuxaches: so if you're logged in as root on your local computer, ssh to somehost will make it try to authenticate as root@somehost
[15:48] <fuxaches> tomreyn: Yes, over the past few years, that's how it has been. This new install form yesterday, however... Does not....
[15:48] <tomreyn> fuxaches: how did you install?
[15:49] <tomreyn> do you have ~/.ssh/config ?
[15:49] <fuxaches> when i open the terminal windows it shows user@Ubuntu, yet when I ssh into a local network machine, it wants to log me in as root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[15:49] <fuxaches> tomreyn: let me look...
[15:50] <fuxaches> nope, only know_hosts in that folder
 fuxaches: how did you install?
[15:50] <fuxaches> Live CD - install 18.04.1
[15:51] <tomreyn> fuxaches: whats the ssh command you run?
[15:51] <fuxaches> I have it installed on two other machines in my basement and this is the only machine that behaves this way...
[15:51] <fuxaches> ssh xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[15:51] <Meili> fuxaches: could you try `export | grep "root"` in that terminal
[15:51] <fuxaches> now i have to use 'ssh user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[15:52] <tomreyn> fuxaches: did you edit /etc/ssh/ssh_config ?
[15:52] <tomreyn> on the client, that is
[15:52] <fuxaches> tomreyn - nope
[15:54] <tomreyn> fuxaches: Meili's suggestion is good IMO, try that. also tell us what "id -u" and "groups" returns
[15:54] <fuxaches> the only three lines that are not hashed out in that file are: SendEnv LANG LC_*
[15:54] <fuxaches>     HashKnownHosts yes
[15:54] <fuxaches>     GSSAPIAuthentication yes
[15:55] <fuxaches> when i run that command, it executes, but I don't see anything displayed on the screen
[15:56] <tomreyn> which is "that command"?
[15:56] <coconut> Any place where i can improve ssh skills?
[15:56] <fuxaches> export | grep "root"
[15:56] <tomreyn> coconut: your local shell. ;-) if you have a specific question, feel free to ask.
[15:57] <coconut> :)
[15:57] <Meili> fuxaches: it was supposed to return nothing, if it did, we would have known what might have been wrong
[15:57] <fuxaches> okay, thanks...
[15:59] <foo> Is there a place where I can get all of IP addresses from user logins on my ubuntu system? Thank you!
[15:59] <foo> via ssh, that is
[15:59] <tomreyn> foo: /var/log/auth.log if you have it.
 fuxaches: [..] also tell us what "id -u" and "groups" returns
[16:01] <Meili> fuxaches: doe this happen with every ssh command you try or only one specific host?
[16:02] <blackflow> foo: journalctl -u ssh.service | grep -i Accepted   too. `who` will show current login sessions
[16:03] <Meili> fuxaches: since we're grasping at straws here: please give the output of the command `alias` in that terminal (remove any sensitive lines you may encouter in that output)
[16:04] <MrPaz> so I'm running ubuntu off a usb stick, i did the lite install, and I've installed openssh-server, however I can't ssh into the the machine from my lan.  should be pretty basic.  any ideas what the problem may be?  22 is open on ufw
[16:05] <MrPaz> getting a timeout in PuTTy when trying to connect
[16:05] <SpeCon> hello all is there anyone who can help me. I just did a bad command on my ubuntu system wich just crashed my website in wordpress. I had troubles with updating plugins on the wordpress website and i found a solution on a website wich told me to do chmod -R 0755 wp-content/plugins and chown www-data wp-content/plugins The result is now that i don't see anything anymore on my website
[16:05] <Meili> MrPaz: can you ping the host from where you are trying to connect?
[16:05] <SpeCon> i'm using vestaCP to control the server. How can i reverse this command to the default :(
[16:06] <SpeCon> the website i under the user admin so /home/admin/web/
[16:06] <fuxaches> tomreyn - both return blanks
[16:07] <SpeCon> actually => /home/admin/web/sr-run-trail.com/public_html/ there are my website files
[16:07] <Meili> SpeCon: you better ask this in a wordpress channel
[16:07] <MrPaz> Meili, no i cannot
[16:08] <SpeCon> no its actually an ubuntu problem because vestaCP in combination with centOS never had any troubles
[16:08] <blackflow> SpeCon: sounds like it's a VestaCP problem. chmodding files like that wouldn't prevent any process from _reading_ teh files
[16:09] <SpeCon> thats what i tought also blackflow
[16:09] <blackflow> so it depends on how you've set up PHP to run as, and if there's any other privilege check
[16:09] <fuxaches> so weird.... I will use ssh user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx to band-aid the issue, but if I notice something else, I will come inquire.... When I  run something like "apt update" it still errors me that I don't have permission and that I need to use "sudo", so it's not like I have su access. It's just really weird....
[16:09] <Meili> fuxaches: did you try the `alias` command?
[16:09] <blackflow> SpeCon: though it's a bit wrong to put 755 on the files, they're still readable to user, group and everyone.
[16:10] <fuxaches> meili:   nope, I will look at how to use that...
[16:10] <SpeCon> hmmm but what could cause the problem i have now? I can't see anything anymore when i try to visit the website
[16:10] <blackflow> SpeCon: look up the web server log and php process logs, I'm assuming that's php-fpm?
[16:11] <SpeCon> i dunno its php 7 wich is running on it
[16:11] <Berlin_> hello,after updating bodhi linux iam waiting alltimes for an end but there is no. i have to restart and the update are done with updater...?
[16:12] <blackflow> SpeCon: running how? And don't say "I don't know" -- running a public server is totally and completely your responsibility, there's no "but vestacp" excuse.
[16:13] <Berlin_> need help
[16:13] <Berlin_> pls
[16:13] <RobBurke> Hey - is there any way to update e2fsck in 14.04? I try to check a partition which(according to fsck) uses unsupported features, metadata_csum to be specific
[16:13] <blackflow> !patience | Berlin_
[16:13] <phazon> !ask > Berlin_
[16:15] <MrPaz> Meili, no i cannot ping the computer I'm trying to connect from with my ubuntu machine.  can't ping default gateway either.  what does this imply?
[16:15] <Berlin_> hello,after updating bodhi linux iam waiting alltimes for an end but there is no. i have to restart and the update are done with updater...?
[16:16] <lordcirth_> Berlin_, you started an update with the graphical update, and it hung?
[16:16] <Meili> MrPaz: well, normally I would say, did you plug in your network cable? Is it cabled or is wireless?
[16:16] <Berlin_> no ,it works
[16:16] <Berlin_> but cant see an end...
[16:17] <MrPaz> Meili, it's wireless, i'm connected, can ping goole just fine
[16:17] <Meili> MrPaz: and is your other computer on the same wireless network?
[16:18] <MrPaz> yes
[16:18] <tomreyn> fuxaches: did you say both "id -u" and "groups" returns nothing?
[16:18] <blackflow> MrPaz: more precisely, in the same network subnet. is one of the "machines" a NAT-ed VM?
[16:18] <phazon> Berlin_: Bodhi Linux' support channel is on Discord: https://discord.gg/Qrn4rsP
[16:18] <SpeCon> blackflow, problem solves
[16:18] <SpeCon> solved
[16:18] <blackflow> SpeCon: what was it?
[16:19] <SpeCon> i just was thinking there might be a bad plugin who was running on my wordpress site so i moved all the files from the folder to another folder so the folder is empty
[16:19] <SpeCon> and voila website online
[16:19] <SpeCon> wtf
[16:19] <Meili> SpeCon: gotta love php fatal errors and the custom error handlers
[16:19] <B166ER> sounds like a broken wp plugin
[16:19] <blackflow> SpeCon: look up the php process logs, it's likely there's an exception or error logged.
[16:19] <lordcirth_> !pm | Berlin_
[16:19] <SpeCon> okay blackflow hold on i take a look
[16:20] <tomreyn> Berlin_: "bodhi linux" is not ubuntu, not supported here.
[16:20] <phazon> SpeCon: might wanna tiddy-up those world-readable permissions now too...
[16:20] <Berlin_> did pm
[16:21] <Berlin_> wrong bodhi IS ubuntu
[16:21] <lordcirth_> Berlin_, this is the list of supported Ubuntu flavors: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/flavours
[16:21] <Meili> Berlin_: based on, there is a difference
[16:21] <jamie_1> does anyone know if you can just install libra writer or do you have to install the whole libra office suite
[16:21] <lordcirth_> All other distros based on Ubuntu are not supported here
[16:22] <phazon> Berlin_: Nope. It is a fork. We can't support every derivative under the sun.
[16:22] <tomreyn> !flavors | Berlin_: no, it's not. it may be based on ubuntu, but it isn't supported here. What is supported here
[16:22] <SpeCon> blackflow, so /Var/log/apache2/ there right
[16:22] <lordcirth_> jamie_1, you can install libreoffice-writer, it will pull in a lot of common dependencies, but it will be a bit smaller
[16:22] <SpeCon> blackflow, i have access.log error.log and error.log.1
[16:22] <blackflow> SpeCon: that's the web server. I don't know how PHP is running, embeded in Apache ,or as php-fpm. still, look where php.ini defines logging is  going, to a file, or syslog
[16:23] <SpeCon> php stores there log files in apache2 folder right
[16:23] <jamie_1> lordcirth_: thanks! i never use anything but writer so i dont want the whole darn thing
[16:23] <SpeCon> ok
[16:23] <SpeCon> wait i take a look
[16:23] <B166ER> php tends to use apache error log out of the box
[16:23] <jamie_1> ah... thats why i didnt install when i tried XD
[16:24] <jamie_1> i spelled it libra not libre
[16:24] <Meili> fuxaches: about the alias command: just do `alias`. Just want to check if there is something weird there.
[16:24] <Berlin_> so i will thank u for no help   :-(
[16:24] <tomreyn> Berlin_: feel free to install ubuntu or one of it's flavors and we'll be happy to support you here (when one of us volunteers are around and feel like they can provide a meaningful response)
[16:24] <phazon> Berlin_: I told you already: Bodhi Linux' support channel is on Discord: https://discord.gg/Qrn4rsP
[16:26] <fuxaches> alias alert='notify-send --urgency=low -i "$([ $? = 0 ] && echo terminal || echo error)" "$(history|tail -n1|sed -e '\''s/^\s*[0-9]\+\s*//;s/[;&|]\s*alert$//'\'')"'
[16:26] <fuxaches> alias egrep='egrep --color=auto'
[16:26] <fuxaches> alias fgrep='fgrep --color=auto'
[16:26] <fuxaches> alias grep='grep --color=auto'
[16:26] <fuxaches> alias l='ls -CF'
[16:26] <fuxaches> alias la='ls -A'
[16:26] <fuxaches> alias ll='ls -alF'
[16:26] <coconut> !paste
[16:26] <tomreyn> ^ fuxaches
[16:26] <Meili> My bad, I made him post it
[16:27] <Meili> fuxaches: also looks normal
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> Evie: welcome
[16:28] <fuxaches> Meile: I think I have been muted....
[16:28] <Meili> fuxaches: why do you think that?
[16:29] <SlidingHorn> fuxaches: you were
[16:29] <fuxaches> mode (+q *!*@68.151.87.11) by Drone
[16:29] <tomreyn> Meili: from what i gathered earlier, fuxaches responded the following to my request "tell us what 'id -u' and 'groups' returns": "both return blanks". this would be very wrong obviously.
[16:29] <lordcirth_> fuxaches, sending many lines too quickly gets you briefly quieted.
[16:29] <tomreyn> fuxaches: you were temporarily muted to stop your paste to this channel.
[16:29] <fuxaches> ah
[16:30] <Meili> tomreyn: overlooked that, that is indeed troubling...
[16:31] <Meili> fuxaches: you are really sure that the command `id -u` did not return anything?
[16:31] <lucenera> Hi, I have a proble with Ubuntu Software: is it a way to reset the app?
[16:31] <fuxaches> type: "export | grep 'id-u'" into command line, correct?
[16:32] <phazon> lucenera: what is the problem?
[16:32] <Meili> fuxaches: no, just `id -u`
[16:32] <SlidingHorn> lucenera: Please be more specific:  What version *and* flavor of Ubuntu? What is the problem? How are you encountering it (what exact commands are you using)? What error messages?
[16:32] <fuxaches> command not found is the return
[16:33] <Meili> fuxaches: "1000: command not found" ?
[16:33] <lordcirth_> fuxaches, did you type in the quotes? run it without.
[16:33] <fuxaches> id-u: command not found
[16:34] <lordcirth_> fuxaches, it's id -u
[16:34] <lordcirth_> there's a space
[16:34] <fuxaches> lol, ooops
[16:34] <lordcirth_> id is the command, -u the option to it
[16:34] <fuxaches> 1000 is the return
[16:34] <tomreyn> fuxaches: ok, so it does not "return blank". what about "groups"?
[16:34] <Meili> tomreyn: no blanks after all
[16:34] <fuxaches> id -groups
[16:35] <Meili> fuxaches: just groups
[16:35] <tomreyn> fuxaches: no, just "groups", no "id -"
[16:35] <fuxaches> **my user** adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[16:35] <tomreyn> okay, this looks fine
[16:36] <tomreyn> fuxaches: still, the ssh behavior you see is indeed not normal and must have been caused my modifications you made to your system after installation.
[16:37] <fuxaches> possibly... I only installed lamp stack and samba and pidgin so far
[16:37] <Meili> fuxaches: i really hate even suggesting this, but have you tried turning it off and on again?
[16:38] <tomreyn> fuxaches: if you like, you can post, to https://paste.ubuntu.com , the output of "ssh -v othercomputer" (replace 'othercomputer' by the ip address or resolvable hostname of your other local computer), and post here, on the channel, only the https address you end up on after posting.
[16:38] <fuxaches> I will look into it further. But yeah, when I type ssh xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx it prompts me for local sudo password, then proceeds to ssh tunnel and prompt me to login in to remote local network host as root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[16:39] <tomreyn> fuxaches: this is a configuration you must have made on your computer, this is not default behaviour.
[16:39] <Meili> fuxaches: eh, suid bit set on ssh??!
[16:40] <fuxaches> do i cat the ssh_config file to find that out?
[16:40] <tomreyn> fuxaches: did you follow any tutorials after installing this computer?
[16:40] <tomreyn> if so, please show the links
[16:40] <fuxaches> tomreyn: nope, done the samba and lamp stack thing  on every major LTS since 10.4
[16:41] <tomreyn> how do you install lamp stack?
[16:42] <tomreyn> also please post the url returned by: stat $(which ssh) 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:42] <fuxaches> well, now you're gonna know I'm a winp.... I use tasksel then sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[16:42] <Meili> fuxaches: nothing wrong with that
[16:42] <tomreyn> that's not strictly wrong.
[16:43] <fuxaches> stat $(which ssh) 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:43] <tomreyn> nowadays you'd rather use apt tasks rather than tasksel, but that's just changing now.
[16:43] <fuxaches> https://termbin.com/33k7
[16:43] <sjoshi> tomreyn: I am able to fix that, thanks for all the help and support. really appreciate it!
[16:43] <tomreyn> sjoshi: welcome, what was it?
[16:44] <sjoshi> Fsck on /home
[16:44] <sjoshi> /dev/sda9 is root
[16:44] <sjoshi> /dev/sda11 is / home
[16:44] <sjoshi> Sda11 has issues fixed via fsck
[16:45] <tomreyn> sjoshi: okay, but this doesn't explain why the file system got corrupted in the first place. you should definitely do the 'smart' checks as well.
[16:45] <sjoshi> tomreyn: sure will do that
[16:46] <sjoshi> Will leave those commands and checks for overnight
[16:46] <sjoshi> It won't impact the work 😉
[16:46] <tomreyn> fuxaches: this looks normal, other than that your ssh executable changed on january 22nd, two days ago.
[16:49] <tomreyn> fuxaches: run "  sudo apt install debsums && debsums openssh-client 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999  "
[16:50] <tomreyn> fuxaches: this is to test whether your ssh client was replaced by an unknown one.
[16:53] <Meili> fuxaches: run " alias 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 "
[16:53] <fuxaches> tomreyn: what is this installing?
[16:54] <tomreyn> fuxaches: i told you about the purpose of debsums
[16:55] <tomreyn> fuxaches: you can also run "apt-cache show debsums" to get more information about the "debsums" package
[16:55] <fuxaches> Meili:  https://termbin.com/3ivs
[16:55] <fuxaches> I ran in tomreyn
[16:56] <Meili> fuxaches: i got affraid your alias output was interrupted by the mute, but it wasnt. all fine
[16:56] <fuxaches> tomreyn:  https://termbin.com/gzas
[17:00] <tomreyn> fuxaches: okay, you can "sudo apt purge debsums", your openssh client appears to be untampered with.
[17:01] <Meili> fuxaches: [17:38] <tomreyn> fuxaches: if you like, you can post, to https://paste.ubuntu.com , the output of "ssh -v othercomputer" (replace 'othercomputer' by the ip address or resolvable hostname of your other local computer), and post here, on the channel, only the https address you end up on after posting.
[17:01] <fuxaches> tomreyn: okay I ran:  sudo apt remove --purge debsums
[17:02] <tomreyn> fuxaches: okay, so you uninstalled the 'debsums' packages as i suggested.
[17:06] <fuxaches> Meili: did you get my IM post?
[17:06] <Meili> I just did
[17:07] <fuxaches> Meili: Thing is.... I get this behaviour no matter which machine I SSH into. It's not isolated to one machine. It has to be something on this particular machine...
[17:07] <fuxaches> *** the machine I'm using to SSH from...
[17:08] <Ark74> Hello!
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> welcome Ark74 what can we do for you?
[17:09] <Meili> fuxaches: a few minutes back you said ssh gave you a sudo like password prompt. Or is it just asking for the password for the remote host?
[17:09] <Ark74> Quick question does apache2 (2.4.34) shipped on disco already has http2 support?
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> Ark74: disco support in #ubuntu+1 please
[17:10] <Ark74> ohh, ok
[17:10] <Ark74> thanks
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> Ark74: the #ubuntu-release channel might also know this
[17:11] <Meili> fuxaches: because the output you pm-ed me, shows its authenticating as your regular user, not as root
[17:11] <fuxaches> Mmeili: I could have sworn it was asking me for local su password, then prompting SSH login to root@XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, but I just tried it and it straight-away promts to SSH connection enter password for root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[17:13] <fuxaches> perhaps I inadvertently used "sudo ssh" the time I recall the local su prompt...
[17:13] <Meili> fuxaches: I think you might
[17:14] <fuxaches> yet the strange behaviour remains... When I ssh into any local network machine, instead of sshing in as user@ it wants to login as root@
[17:15] <Meili> fuxaches: But, you are REALLY sure it ACTUALLY says root@hostname? Because again, the verbose output is using your normal username, not root
[17:16] <fuxaches> Oh, for absolute sure. Also, becausse root is not enabled on the ssh host, I get refused, because there is no root ssh access....
[17:17] <fuxaches> I am forced to use the command:  ssh user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx to successfully ssh into a linux box on my network which is unusual behaviour from my Ubuntu experience
[17:19] <tomreyn> fuxaches: yes, i've never had this happen (without me configuring it on purpose), and i've been using ubuntu and ssh for a couple years.
[17:20] <tomreyn> well, many years
[17:20] <fuxaches> It's not a huge deal, I guess. I am just afraid there are other effects I am not experiencing from this yet and will find them to mess me up in the future. I really do appreciate your efforts in helping to solve this. I certainly learned a great deal...
[17:20] <tomreyn> fuxaches: so, what about the "ssh -v ..." output i suggest you could post earlier?
[17:21] <tomreyn> if i had this issue and wasn't abla eto determine what causes it i would loose trust int he system and reinstall it.
[17:21] <Meili> fuxaches: you just pmed me what you're doing on that console. Please do `ssh` without `sudo` for the desired behaviour.
[17:23] <tomreyn> fuxaches: if you run "sudo ssh somehost" instead of "ssh somehost" you *will* be authenticating as root to the remote host. as explained previously, you'll be authenticating as the local user runnign the command (which is root if you sudo ssh. this said, "sudo ssh") is usually bad practice.
[17:24] <tomreyn> fuxaches: if you run "sudo ssh somehost" instead of "ssh somehost" you *will* be authenticating as root to the remote host. as explained previously, you'll be authenticating as the local user runnign the command (which is root if you sudo ssh). this said, "sudo ssh" is usually bad practice.
[17:24] <tomreyn> ^ parenthesis fixed, sorry.
[17:26] <fuxaches> tomreyn: I brain-farted and wsted your valuable time....  I used Nautilus-admin to make life easier for moving my apache configs. So I could open gedit with root privileges to modify the .conf files... I removed the nautilus-admin program and now it works as expected. I am really sorry to waste your time....
[17:26] <Meili> fuxaches: glad you found it and thanks for sharing.
[17:28] <tomreyn> fuxaches: it can be a steep learning curve, but yes, you really should get used to working on the temrinal so you'll know exactly what you're doing, or can know, and have a history of commands you ran in case you forgot.
[17:29] <tomreyn> !terminal | fuxaches
[17:30] <tomreyn> i'm sure you know where to find it, but you may want to read this guide.
[17:31] <fuxaches> A big thanks to tomreyn ans Meili !!
[17:31] <fuxaches> over and out - time to work.
[17:32] <Mi5ter> Hi, can anyone recommend a good guide for setting up 2 new disks in raid 1, just for storage, no os or anything will be installed on them. thanks
[17:37] <tomreyn> Mi5ter: software raid then?
[17:37] <Mi5ter> yes sir
[17:37] <uuubuntu> hello, I try to build kernel and follow the instruction: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel, I just wondering how do I pass CFLAGS="-g -o0" to these commands, debian/rules ??
[17:38] <tomreyn> Mi5ter: which ubuntu version?
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> uuubuntu: whats the reason you try to build own kernel please?
[17:39] <Mi5ter> tomreyn: 18.4
[17:39] <uuubuntu> lotuspsychje: i'm tracing the kernel code and i don't want optimize
[17:39] <uuubuntu> i saw many "optimize out" and gdb break incorrect address
[17:39] <rhoks> hmmm, is there a better software than a word document one for making a couple of lists of shopping items with pics
[17:40] <uuubuntu> lotuspsychje: any hints ?
[17:40] <tomreyn> Mi5ter: you mean 18.04 LTS, so the april 2018 long term release?
[17:40] <tomreyn> *long term support
[17:40] <Mi5ter> tomreyn: correct
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> uuubuntu: we dont support own kernel building here sorry, instead use !mainline kernels
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> uuubuntu: maybe you can join #ubuntu-discuss and talk to TJ- he knows some stuff about kernels
[17:41] <uuubuntu> lotuspsychje: thanks
[17:41] <tomreyn> Mi5ter: the first hit on my web search for "ubuntu software raid 18.04" is https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-raid-arrays-with-mdadm-on-ubuntu-18-04 - and those guides tend to be fine (not always).
[17:43] <tomreyn> Mi5ter: note the TOC on the left, the section on RAID-1 is below the RAID-0 one, but be sure to read the first two sections, too.
[17:44] <laci> hi
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> welcome laci how can we help you?
[17:44] <Mi5ter> tomreyn: I have read alot of guides, and what confused me about that guide is that digital ocean does not do formatting/partitioning before after the raid array has been made, while some guides partition and format filesystem individually on both disks first before they run mdadm and then formats the single finished raid 1 disk in the end. so am bit confused.
[17:45] <laci> I'm just looking around :)
[17:45] <Mi5ter> tomreyn: but are u experienced and would say that this guide from digital ocean is ok to follow?
[17:49] <Mi5ter> tomreyn: my question is now that I have installed 2 brand new wd red 4tb disks in my computer , do I need to format them both with fdisk first and then use mdadm to setup the raid array and then mount the new raid 1 disk and setup filesystem or can I just use mdadm right away and just format and setup filesystem after that?
[17:49] <cowl> Hi, whenever I press my left control key, applications that use that key to zoom in or out do zoom, even if I'm not touching the mouse key. This includes Firefox, LO Writer, Inkscape. Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[17:50] <cowl> I changed keyboard and mouse. Still happens. I generally use i3 and switched back to ubuntu gnome, still happens. Not sure what is going on.
[17:50] <ruseld8329> quit
[17:50] <tomreyn> Mi5ter: on a quick glance, the digital ocean guide is fine
[17:51] <Mi5ter> tomreyn: ok kool
[17:54] <tomreyn> Mi5ter: i'm not sure whether there are any recommendations against using mdadm on raw (unpartitioned) storages. personally i usually add a partition table, just because, at least traditionally, somee utilities did not handle working on bare unpartitioned storages so well. this may well be an outdated perspective.
[17:54] <tomreyn> on the other hand, you don't loose much by partitioning.
[17:55] <nicomachus> I have a slightly strange issue. If I set my volume to 10% (either through GUI or manually through pactl), there is no sound (an effective volume of 0%)
[17:55] <nicomachus> I have to be above 10% to get any sound at all.
[17:55] <Mi5ter> tomreyn: ok thanks
[17:57] <tomreyn> nicomachus: this can be a result of attaching active speakers. compare it to passively powered ones.
[17:58] <nicomachus> tomreyn: I'm using earbuds.
[17:59] <daoge> What SSH client to use in Ubuntu
[18:00] <tomreyn> nicomachus: i assume this means passively powered? there are also noise cancelling ones these days. either way: just compare different types (and models) of sepakers.
[18:00] <tomreyn> daoge: openssh is most commonly used. there is also putty, but it is usually just used for special purposes.
[18:01] <nicomachus> tomreyn: same behavior on the built-in laptop speakers.
[18:01] <sparr> I am seeing "kernel: [#####.######] PM: Image not found (code -22)" in my kernel log when I try to hibernate, then it claims to suspend, then it performs a normal cold boot with no indication in the boot log that it attempted to even look for my swapfile. What can I try next to troubleshoot this?
[18:01] <tomreyn> nicomachus: okay, this points to the audio hardware or driver then indeed. an area i don't really know much about and where i'd suggest you just follow the wiki
[18:02] <tomreyn> !sound | nicomachus
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: pavucontrol can also do alot of magic
[18:02] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: all the pavucontrol settings appear correct.
[18:02] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: driver recognized in sudo lshw -C sound ?
[18:06] <tomreyn> sparr: first of all, is your swap partition the same size or larger than your ram? compare the "Total" values in the output of the "free -m" command (listing their total sizes in megabytes)
[18:06] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: yes.
[18:09] <daoge> tomreyn: thanks, I want to use clients  like xshell , which can manage hosts in batches.
[18:10] <tomreyn> sparr: to explain the message you'Re seeing: PM stands for "power management", "image not found" means that during return from hibernation, when the system would load a previously stored RAM image form disk, it fails to do so.
[18:11] <cowl> weird -- pressing the left 'alt' key in Firefox is like clicking on back arrow key and going back in browsing history
[18:12] <isokee> hi everyone, what is the advantage(s) of installing ubuntu-advantage-tools and is it safe to remove it?
[18:12] <tomreyn> daoge: i don't personally know xshell, but openssh can be scripted, and there are other utilities which can be used to setup multiple ssh connections in parallel and keep them open, with different UIs. I'm not so well versed with these.
[18:13] <sparr> tomreyn: yes. systemctl hibernate refused to hibernate when my swapfile was too small. i enlarged it and now it proceeds so I got *something* right.
[18:13] <sparr> tomreyn: the "Image not found" error is appearing in my log timestamped at the sleep time, not the wake time, with other events after it at the sleep time.
[18:14] <daoge>  i don't personally know xshell, but openssh can be scripted, and there are other utilities which can be used to setup
[18:15] <tomreyn> isokee: run "apt-cache show ubuntu-advantage-tools | grep ^Description" to see the package description, "dpkg -L ubuntu-advantage-tools" to list its contents while it is installed ("apt-file list ubuntu-advantage-tools" otherwise).
[18:16] <sparr> tomreyn: I get nothing in my boot log about hibernation except the kernel parameters. almost everyone else with my error online also gets this in their boot dmesg: "PM: Hibernation image not present or could not be loaded."
[18:16] <tomreyn> sparr: i suspect it checks for whether the file was properly created while / shortly before entering hibernation then.
[18:17] <sparr> tomreyn: that sounds very plausible, but I don't know how to troubleshoot that :(
[18:17] <isokee> hi tomreyn, thanks for the reply. i've read about it and it says that it is used by commercial users(?) and i am not one. i'm just wondering if it's safe to remove it?
[18:17] <daoge> tomreyn: i agree with u ,i'm  used to using xshell in Windows
[18:18] <tomreyn> sparr: what do you have "RESUME" set to in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume ?
[18:18] <sparr> resume=/dev/nvme0n1p2
[18:19] <sparr> then in my kernel params: resume=/dev/nvme0n1p2 resume_offset=60698624
[18:19] <tomreyn> isokee: yes it's safe to remove it if you're not a canonical customer.
[18:19] <daoge> tormeyn: so, i want to see if there are clients like xshell in ubuntu .
[18:19] <sparr> and upon writing that answer for the dozenth time, I start to suspect that resume from LVM might not be possible...
[18:19] <isokee> tomreyn,  ok, thanks for the help. appreciate it. :)
[18:20] <sparr> and I don't remember if I told the installer to set up LVM or not
[18:20] <tomreyn> sparr: maybe. have you looked for existing bug reports on this?
[18:20] <sparr> it's hard to search for bug reports based on a *lack* of log output
[18:20] <tomreyn> daoge: since i don't know xshell, i wont be able to tell
[18:21] <sparr> ok, I don't think I'm using LVM
[18:21] <tomreyn> isokee: you're welcome :)
[18:22] <tomreyn> sparr: to check whether you have an LVM setup, run "sudo pvs". this would list lvm2 "physical volumes".
[18:22] <sparr> pvs doesn't exist
[18:22] <sparr> thanks for confirming
[18:22] <daoge> tomreyn :  i've installed putty, but i'm not familiar with it .
[18:24] <sparr> tomreyn: all of my efforts to find bug reports or forum posts about my problem are based on descriptions and the one log error I've got, but almost everything I find has many other logged errors that I don't have.
[18:24] <tomreyn> !man | daoge: okay, change this
[18:26] <tomreyn> !bug sparr: then i suggest you file a new bug
[18:26] <tomreyn> !bug | sparr: then i suggest you file a new bug
[18:27] <sparr> what package do you think I should report on?
[18:27] <sparr> at this point I suspect I've missed a configuration step, not encountered a bug
[18:31] <daoge> tomreyn : thanks for the reply , i used openssh command only .
[18:33] <daoge> ubottu： thanks for the reply, i'll use "man" command to get help
[18:33] <donofrio> something up with the repo's or something?
[18:34] <donofrio> I'm getting https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YmMFVhfyN3/
[18:35] <tomreyn> !who | sparr
[18:35] <OerHeks> donofrio, looks good
[18:35] <TJ-> sparr: the device to resume from is set by the initramfs-tools. You may have an incorrect resume device being set by the tools there.
[18:36] <OerHeks> if you hit ctl +c, the command stops, looks good too
[18:36] <tomreyn> sparr: please report against systemd
[18:36] <donofrio> OerHeks, it's these "Error connecting: Could not connect: Connection refused" that made me inquire
[18:37] <TJ-> sparr: when the initramfs is built ("sudo update-initramfs -u") it should report the RESUME device and warn of any issues
[18:38] <donofrio> OerHeks, my sources.list fwiw https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YmMFVhfyN3/
[18:39] <OerHeks> at the end, i see no errors, all went well
[18:41] <hggdh> donofrio: I cannot see the "cannot connect" as a problem with the repositories/Ubuntu.
[18:41] <OerHeks> oh, wsl and xubuntu experimental, interesting
[18:42] <OerHeks> i see you hit ctrl + c some tiomes, not sure the connection problem can be repeated
[18:45] <donofrio> OerHeks, yah been this build for like over a year now at least....thought it was ubuntu cloud image that I started with (wsl setup @ www.tinyurl.com/donofrioworkdesk) then added packages (all 1500 iof them) and poof here I be ;)
[18:45] <donofrio> hggdh, it works daily today it did this that is why I asked....tnx
[18:46] <OerHeks> i have no clue about wsl, it is not designed for runnning a desktop
[18:46] <xubuntu30w> Hello, I have a small question. A while ago, I removed the standard programming interface for Python. Now I want it back. What is the package name? Can I install it via the software centre or what is the name for the terminal installation?
[18:46] <tomreyn> donofrio: see, there are reasons as to why we've previously asked you to always state on your own that you're running WSL when asking questions here.
[18:47] <sparr> TJ-: thanks for the tip. It does not so report or warn. I have /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume which contains "resume=/dev/nvme0n1p2". Should that produce some output from update-initramfs?
[18:47] <donofrio> OerHeks, but it's been a trooper for years now.....I am restricted from running pure ubuntu on baremetal becuase I do not have a MDM/airwatch/intelligenthub client for linux yet
[18:47] <donofrio> tomreyn, yep I recall (only after askin it....mybad)
[18:47] <TJ-> sparr: is that device the actual swap partition?
[18:48] <sparr> TJ-: contains the swap file
[18:48] <sparr> swap file offset is set in kernel parameters
[18:48] <TJ-> sparr: resume= is usually set to the UUID of the block device is why I ask
[18:50] <sparr> when I do update-initramfs in verbose mode it says "Adding config /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume" then later "Calling hook resume" but nothing happens in the hook.
[18:50] <coconut> xubuntu30w: you mean a python IDE?
[18:51] <darkad> Hi guys, GDISK found some problems and now if I just hit the W (option) it says: About to write GPT data. THIS WILL OVERWRITE EXISTING PARTITIONS!! I don't know if I will see the files or everything will be erased
[18:52] <Myros> I have 2 exactly same hdd's and set them up both as bootable. Whitch one will boot if i plug them both
[18:52] <darkad> Am I going to delete all the files?
[18:52] <Myros> Yes
[18:52] <Myros> Make a backup on an external hdd
[18:53] <sparr> TJ-: I can try setting it to the UUID
[18:53] <Myros> You <could> try to undelete afterwards, bad thats just bad
[18:53] <darkad> yes
[18:53] <darkad> I agree
[18:53] <HelloPotter_> e
[18:53] <darkad> i't a cloned disk
[18:54] <HelloPotter_> hey there i need some help
[18:54] <tomreyn> sparr: did you ever edit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume to place these settings there yourself or was this automatic?
[18:54] <tomreyn> !ask | HelloPotter_
[18:54] <darkad> it's a cloned partition, maybe everything is ok
[18:55] <sparr> tomreyn: manual
[18:55] <RobBurke> when I'm using fsck with "-b 8193 (iirc)" by accident on the wrong device - does this mean trouble?
[18:55] <HelloPotter_> i don't have  official lineage os spport for my device(potter), but there are lots of custom roms are available, what should i do in this point??
[18:56] <tomreyn> sparr: oh i see, do you remember what was there previously? unfortunately i'm not sure how to have the file recreated for you automatically.
[18:56] <sparr> tomreyn: specifying the UUID instead of the device path has no apparent effect on the output of update-initramfs -uv
[18:56] <tomreyn> !ot | HelloPotter_
[18:56] <sparr> tomreyn: the file did not previously exist
[18:59] <tomreyn> sparr: you could backup (especially but not only /etc/initramfs-tools), then "sudo apt purge initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-core", then "sudo apt purge initramfs-tools"
[19:00] <tomreyn> sparr: i *assume* this may create the file
[19:00] <darkad> Sorry guys but I cannot mount the partiton with thunar and I can't correct it with gdisk. Don't know what to do ?
[19:00] <sparr> tomreyn: rapidly approaching a reinstall on this laptop, so no urge to backup but thanks for the warning
[19:02] <tomreyn> darkad: if you overwrote the partition table (GPT) then all data previously stored on this device is no longer available. unless oyu also overwrote other parts of this storage (in addidtion to just the partition table) you will hav ea hard time recovering the data, maybe "testdisk" can help, but this is quite advanced.
[19:02] <sparr> tomreyn: did you mean for the second purge to be an install?
[19:03] <darkad> tomreyn: at the moment I just tried to read some files from a disk, but I can't do this.
[19:03] <sparr> tomreyn: purge and reinstall did not create the conf.d/resume file
[19:04] <tomreyn> darkad: sorry, this was logically wrong, let me rephrase: if you overwrote the partition table (GPT) then all data previously stored on this device is no longer available. you could restore the partition table if you still know what it looked like, have a backup, or can use utilities such as testdisk. however, if you also overwrote other parts of this storage (in addidtion to just the partition table) you will have a hard time recovering the data.
[19:04] <tomreyn> sparr: umm, yes, i meant the second purge to be an install, sorry
[19:04] <sparr> tomreyn: and it did remove and recreate /etc/initramfs-tools
[19:05] <tomreyn> sparr: hmm so i guess something else creates it then. how did you come up with the values you ptu there?
[19:05] <tomreyn> s/ptu/put/
[19:05] <sparr> tomreyn: numerous online threads and guides
[19:06] <sparr> they seem to all suggest "resume=/dev/whatever" or "resume=UUID=some-uuid-goes-here"
[19:07] <tomreyn> sparr: how did you calculate the offset?
[19:07] <sparr> filefrag -v /swapfile
[19:08] <sparr> https://gist.github.com/sparr/d503a3983efa2a4341c506722c2cc728#file-filefrag-v-swapfile
[19:08] <Myros> How can i mount a crypto_luks partition?
[19:08] <tomreyn> sparr: i'm asking since systemd-hibernate-resume-generator(8) doesn't mention this parameter
[19:09] <Myros> I tried sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/hdd2
[19:10] <Myros> Error was mount:/media/hdd2: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'
[19:10] <tomreyn> Myros: if you'd like to do it on the CLI:  sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 mda3_crypt; sudo mount /dev/mapper/mda3_crypt /media/hdd2
[19:10] <coconut> xubuntu30w: try this in a terminal apt-cache search "python IDE". The app you removed is propably part of the list you receive with that.
[19:10] <darkad> tomreyn: I didn't overwrite the GPT. I just linked the external HD, like a did a week ago, but the HD hit the ground yesterday.
[19:12] <tomreyn> darkad: i don't understand what you mean by "linked the external HD".
[19:13] <darkad> tomreyn: I plugged the usb cable in to the usb port.
[19:13] <tomreyn> darkad: what you previously wrte (working with gnome disks, a warning about a GPT being replaced) sounded like overwriting a GPT is what you did.
[19:13] <tomreyn> i see
[19:13] <Myros> tomrayn mount:/media/hdd2: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[19:14] <xubuntu30w> coconut: Yes, I mean a python IDE. Think one comes with a fresh install
[19:14] <tomreyn> Myros: so there's not a file system on this encrypted partition, at least not immediately, but there is an LVM2 layer in between.
[19:14] <tomreyn> Myros: lvmdiskscan can help you making thios available
[19:14] <darkad> tomreyn: at the question 'Do you want to proceed' , I hit 'n'
[19:15] <xubuntu30w> coconut: do you know which the standard is?
[19:15] <tomreyn> darkad: oh ok, sorry if i missed this.
[19:16] <coconut> no, i only use ubuntu-mate
[19:17] <Myros> tomreyn didnt work
[19:20] <tomreyn> Myros: if you'd like help with this i'll need more information, such as the full output.
[19:20] <tomreyn> !paste | Myros
[19:20] <OerHeks> xubuntu30w, standard python ide does not exist, you can choose from many ; Eclips, Eric  https://linuxhint.com/python_ide_ubuntu/
[19:21] <tomreyn> Myros: at least describe what you expected to happen and how you know this "didn't work"
[19:22] <Myros> It gave me the same error
[19:22] <blackflow> Anyone noticed watching videos in Firefox (like YouTube, Netflix), when the vid is playing (but not when paused/stopped), it barely shows through whatever is behind the window? bionic, nvidia proprietary drv 415.27 from the graphics PPA
[19:22] <blackflow> so the desktop wallpaper will show through, or contents of whatever other window is behind firefox
[19:22] <Myros> I currently try udisksctl
[19:22] <Myros> But it says not mountable
[19:23] <OerHeks> blackflow, yes, read about that, transperancy html5 video with nvidia drivers
[19:24] <tomreyn> Myros: running "sudo lvmdiskscan" would not have produced an output of "mount: /media/hdd2: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'" - i very much doubt this.
[19:24] <blackflow> OerHeks: but it's something very new, right? I think the 415 nvidia drivers are to blame, I don't recall having that with 396
[19:24] <blackflow> and I'm lazy af to try downgrade and check :)
[19:24] <OerHeks> blackflow,  according to this post, not ubuntu only ... https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/a90w3v/firefox_semitransparent_youtube_video_playback_bug/
[19:25] <blackflow> OerHeks: right, thanks.
[19:25] <OerHeks> see last comment, with a possible fix
[19:25]  * OerHeks looking for launchpad bugs
[19:25] <xubuntu30w> coconut: Nothing looks familiar. Before I saw Python and the Python symbol under development tools in the "start menu"
[19:26] <darkad> tomreyn: can I print the fdisk -l here?
[19:26] <OerHeks> darkad, use paste.ubuntu.com please
[19:32] <blackflow> OerHeks: reported, and apparently already resolved fixed. I guess coming down with the next iteration of FF.   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1516224
[19:33] <OerHeks> blackflow, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1516224 -- https://askubuntu.com/questions/1102427/strange-ghost-images-transparency-effect-in-full-screen-videos/1103067 and https://www.scootersoftware.com/vbulletin/forum/beyond-compare-4-discussion/linux-aa/14133-transparent-window-on-ubuntu-with-nvidia-graphics
[19:33] <OerHeks> ah yes
[19:34] <OerHeks> so roll back a version, or wait for a fix?
[19:35] <coconut> xubuntu30w: i would just try and install eric with sudo apt-get install eric
[19:38] <darkad> Hi guys, my usb HD hit the ground and now I can't mount any partition, like I used to do with thunar.
[19:38] <darkad> please help
[19:38] <darkad> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/djwY2sYB6r/
[19:44] <OerHeks> darkad, the disks utility can repaire a lot, and the error shows that a copy seems oke, i think it is solvable https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/disk-repair.html.en
[19:44] <blackflow> OerHeks: I'll just wait for the new FF
[19:48] <darkad> OerHeks, ty, it says : "Open Disks from the Activities overview" - is Disks -> gnome-disks?
[19:48] <OerHeks> yes
[20:01] <Good-Luck-007> pastebin.com*G5Jqrd2S - new ctf gl
[20:01] <leftyfb> Good-Luck-007: not the place for that
[20:19] <wzff> sudal
[20:22] <darkad_> OerHeks, are you still there?
[20:25] <lucenera> Hi, I have a problem with Ubuntu Software. When I search for update it appears a message: I can not get the list of updates. I tried to uninstall and reinstall Ubuntu Software, but the problem was not solved.
[20:26] <teward> lucenera: what Ubuntu are you using?
[20:26] <teward> what version?
[20:26] <lucenera> Ubuntu 18.10
[20:26] <lucenera> 64 bit
[20:27] <darkad_> lucenera: is your internet connection alive?
[20:27] <teward> lucenera: is your internet connection alive, and then also what does `sudo apt update` show?  (use a pastebin if you paste the output of it)
[20:27] <lucenera> Yes, all works very fine.
[20:30] <darkad_> Guys my usb HD hit the ground and I cannot mount any partition anymore, help please:
[20:30] <darkad_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9T8Kp79p3R/
[20:30] <teward> darkad_: if your hard drive is actually a hard drive and not an SSD or a USB flash drive, the chances are the disk is physically damaged
[20:31] <leftyfb> darkad_: Try using ddrescue to create a backup image of said drive and try to recover what you can from the drive. Then drill holes through it and buy a new one.
[20:31] <teward> leftyfb: should he attempt an fsck?
[20:31] <teward> or just presume it's dead?
[20:31] <leftyfb> no
[20:31] <teward> :P
[20:31] <leftyfb> ddrescue
[20:31] <leftyfb> then attempt to pull files/fsck on the image
[20:32] <leftyfb> Or better yet, just buy a new drive and restore from backup
[20:32] <hggdh> ^ +1 for both
[20:33] <leftyfb> darkad_: btw, the file recovery should be done on the ddrescue image you create, not the drive itself
[20:34] <tomreyn> or rather (unless read-only) on a copy of the image you create, since you dont want to loose that either.
[20:36] <Myros> Hello, i performed a vgrename on my secound instalation, because i coudnt mount it (same name). Now i cant start my other instalation, lukecrypt says bad passwort
[20:36] <Myros> I have now booted my other hdd, how can i make this working?
[20:36] <leftyfb> Myros: It's going to be a LOT quicker and easier to just reinstall
[20:36] <darkad_> is the message I pasted telling about physical damage?
[20:37] <teward> darkad_: not necessarily, but you yourself said that you dropped it then it stopped working right.
[20:37] <leftyfb> darkad_: is the drive an SSD or spinner?
[20:37] <teward> darkad_: ^ that
[20:37] <Myros> leftfb i have a lot of data there
[20:37] <leftyfb> Myros: There's always backups of that important data
[20:38] <darkad_> the HD is a external usb, and a seagate 2,5" sata 2TB
[20:38] <Myros> leftyfb i currently try to make a backup
[20:39] <Myros> How can i grep inside every file on a disk and look for a string?
[20:39] <leftyfb> darkad_: ok, then more likely it's a spinner. IF you're having trouble mounting it after physically dropping it, consider it a faulty drive now and not to be relied upon. Get a new one and recover what you can as mentioned above
[20:39] <leftyfb> Myros: grep -R <string> /path/to/mount
[20:41] <f3bruary> Hoping someone can point me in the right direction regarding an issue I have with my HP Envy 4 1200ed laptop. It's running Ubuntu 18.04 (Budgie). I'm having the same issue I had back when I was using Debian 8 on this same system. The issue is when I put my laptop in sleep mode at night, it randomly wakes up in the middle of the night. Sometimes it doesn't happen for days, other times it happens multiple t
[20:41] <f3bruary> imes in the same night. I checked the logs but I don't see anything out of the ordinary. They look like a regular system wakeup. Not sure what's triggering the wakeup though.
[20:42] <OerHeks> f3bruary, earthquake or rumble probably, activating touchpad/mouse
[20:42] <f3bruary> it doesn't respond to mouse movement, and the lid is always closed so can't be the touchpad
[20:43] <f3bruary> It does react to keypresses on the external kb I have hooked up. But nothing is pressing it at night :D
[20:43] <leftyfb> f3bruary: do you have anything plugged into the laptop besides power?
[20:43] <Myros> I changed the vg from ubuntu-vg to ubuntu-vg2, can i mannualy edit grep to  edit it there too?
[20:43] <Myros> *grub
[20:43] <leftyfb> f3bruary: as a test, unplug everything except power.
[20:43] <f3bruary> power, RF dongle for mouse, usb keyboard and hdmi.
[20:43] <leftyfb> f3bruary: as a test, unplug everything except power.
[20:43] <f3bruary> ok
[20:44] <genii> f3bruary: Maybe check that WOL is disabled in your BIOS
[20:44] <f3bruary> good idea, I will genii
[20:44] <darkad_> guys I'm reading the HD from a different linux version
[20:45] <leftyfb> genii: that's a pretty specific magic packet that would have to be accidentally sent to the MAC of the laptop :)
[20:45] <OerHeks> i suspect the dongle
[20:45] <leftyfb> darkad_: ok, good luck. I hope you don't care about the data on that drive.
[20:46] <darkad_> I got a previous but not total backup, but it's allright, thank you all
[20:46] <leftyfb> darkad_: your next and only step should be to use dd rescue on that drive to create an image as a backup and get a new drive and never use that drive again.
[20:47] <mekmel> Hi all. Have a problem with openssh where i freezes trying to connect to a webserver, while other ssh clients work no problem. https://pastebin.com/BhTrCU92
[20:47] <mekmel> any hint is appreciated
[20:47] <darkad_> leftyfb, thank you
[20:48] <tomreyn> mekmel: this is #ubuntu
[20:50] <tomreyn> mekmel: is your client or server running ubuntu, and which version?
[20:50] <genii> leftyfb: I've seen some systems that behave like this when it's enabled, not sure why
[20:52] <tomreyn> !pm | mekmel
[20:52] <f3bruary> OerHeks: oh man I think you're right. I was certain the laptop didn't respond to mouse movements in sleep mode, but I just tested it and it does. I switched the dongle to a different usb port a few weeks back. The one it was in was a 'always on' port meant for charging external devices while in sleep mode or shut down. I switched it back to a regular usb port and it stopped responding to movement again. I
[20:52] <tomreyn> mekmel: the server is apparently running debian or a debian derivative which is not ubuntu.
[20:52] <f3bruary> 'm gonna assume a false movement detection triggered it then.
[20:53] <OerHeks> f3bruary, good spot, have fun!
[20:53] <mekmel> Ok it seems this is the wrong place to ask then. Can annyone redirect me to where i might get help with my openssh related problem?
[20:53] <f3bruary> thanks for the help :D
[20:53] <DARKAD000> guys it's incredible
[20:54] <OerHeks> mekmel, #debian here on #freenode ?
[20:54] <tomreyn> mekmel: depends, what's running on your client and server?
[20:54] <DARKAD000> ubuntu with kernel 4.4.x gave me that error nowwith 4.15.x all works!!!
[20:55] <OerHeks> another happy user
[20:55] <Myros> I changed the vgname of an instalation, what file in grub do i have to edit as well to be able to boot again?
[20:56] <mekmel> tomreyn and OerHeks: Is openssh part of debian? I don't see the connection oherwise. I have the same problem with many different webservers where i need to set up webpages. As stated i get the same error on ubuntu and archlinux. The server-distros i have no control over and are irrelevant as i get the same error on different servers using different distros.
[20:57] <DARKAD000> maybe with a fat and not gpt should have been no errors on my two computers?
[20:58] <SlidingHorn> mekmel: try #openssh then
[20:58] <OerHeks> so it looks like a serverside issue?
[20:59] <tomreyn> mekmel: i don't see you stating the client OS / distro previously. so there is an issue connecting from a client running a (yet) unknown ubuntu release ("Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.9") to a webserver where sshd identifies as "OpenSSH_7.4p1 Debian-10+deb9u4"
[21:00] <tomreyn> mekmel: now, which ubuntu version is the client running on?
[21:00] <tomreyn> mekmel: please also confirm the summary above.
[21:02] <tomreyn> !pm | mekmel: again
[21:03] <mekmel> My question stays the same. Does annyone have a clue why my ssh connection freezes: https://pastebin.com/BhTrCU92. As stated: same issue on different distros/computers. No issues whatsoever using putty and random ios ssh clients on an ipad
[21:03] <tomreyn> we can only help with software running on ubuntu
[21:04] <tomreyn> if you have general network questions, maybe try ##networking
[21:04] <leftyfb> mekmel: sounds like the issue is on the server side. What OS is running on the server?
[21:04] <mekmel> same issue on different servers. Correction All 4 webservers with different distros aswell
[21:05] <mekmel> all 4 are in another country
[21:05]  * tomreyn gives up
[21:05] <leftyfb> mekmel: So .... you're having issues connecting to all 4 servers, all running different distros using different distros as clients?
[21:06] <mekmel> Yes leftyb. Common denominator: OpenSSH
[21:06] <mekmel> client
[21:06] <diskin> lucenera, what does "sudo apt update" show in terminal?
[21:06] <leftyfb> mekmel: ok, good luck. You're issue is network/provider/user/etc related. Not distro related.
[21:07] <mekmel> leftyb: yes i know. Not sure where to get help though
[21:07] <leftyfb> mekmel: try #linux or #networking or call your provider(s)
[21:07] <mekmel> ok ill try. thanks
[21:08] <Myros> I changed the vgname of an instalation, now i cant boot from it. What do i have to edit in the boot partition, so i'm able to do it again? (i use luke crypt)
[21:21] <BlueProtoman> What is this "samhain" process?  It's not malicious, but I don't know what it's actually doing.
[21:22] <OerHeks> so if you know it is not malicious, what info did you find?
[21:23] <leftyfb> BlueProtoman: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/samhain.8.html
[21:23] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: It's a file integrity daemon.  Okay, let me ask what I *really* want to know; can I safely disable it on a personal laptop to free up memory?
[21:24] <matrim> What's the package for the open source amd graphics drivers called?
[21:26] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, sure, it is optional
[21:27] <coconut> matrim: probably xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[21:27] <leftyfb> BlueProtoman: if you have it running on your machine, it's because you installed it or some other package you installed pulled it down as a dependency
[21:28] <matrim> coconut, It supports opengl and all that, right?
[21:28] <matrim> coconut, Or do I need another package for that?
[21:28] <leftyfb> matrim: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[21:28] <tonyt> matrim the name you might be looking for is nouveau
[21:29] <leftyfb> we're making a lot of assumptions here
[21:29] <tonyt> thats the generic driver used for nvidia vid cards
[21:29] <OerHeks> xserver-xorg-video-radeon if not ~amdgpu
[21:29] <BlueProtoman> leftyfb: It is entirely possible that I once installed it but forgot about it.
[21:29] <matrim> leftyfb: I installed ubuntu server without a de, I want to get a wm and build up from there.
[21:29] <tonyt> no assumption lefty
[21:29] <tonyt> [1:24pm] <matrim> What's the package for the open source amd graphics drivers called?
[21:29] <tonyt> nouveau is the answer
[21:30] <matrim> tonyt, nouveau is nvidia.
[21:30] <tonyt> no, it is a open source driver
[21:30] <matrim> OerHeks, No, it's amdgpu, it's a modern one.
[21:30] <tonyt> isnt that what you aked for?
[21:30] <tonyt> k
[21:30] <leftyfb> tonyt: nouveau is the open source drive for nvidia chipsets
[21:30] <matrim> tonyt, Yes, but for a modern amd apu.
[21:30] <tonyt> didnt know you were looking for amd related
[21:30] <leftyfb> matrim: what video chipset do you have?
[21:31] <leftyfb> tonyt: see, assumptions
[21:31] <BlueProtoman> leftyfb, OerHeks: Thanks for the tip.
[21:31] <matrim> leftyfb, I have a ryzen 5 2500U or something like that (maybe it was G, idk). It's a laptop.
[21:32] <leftyfb> matrim: lspci
[21:32] <leftyfb> "something like that" isn't a good way to debug things
[21:33] <matrim> Radeon vega 8 mobile (rev 15)
[21:33] <matrim> sorry, (rev c4)
[21:33] <matrim> I was reading wrong.
[22:07] <bashfulshell> Is there a proper way to edit kernel boot flags aside from efibootmgr?
[22:07] <bashfulshell> e.g. is there a config file?
[22:32] <max__> ciao a tutti
[22:35] <Myros> While having only a initramfs console, is there a was to edit a filek
[22:35] <Myros> ?
[22:39] <Echelon-> Hey, How can I install java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel? I've tried "sudo apt-get install java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel" but it says unable to locate package. I was told I need it as when compiling java code with IntelliJ I get a error that says the jdk tools.jar is not there
[22:43] <OerHeks> !info openjdk-8-jdk
[22:56] <jonwoodlief> currently booting with ubuntu in GPT, with 3 partitions- EFI, Linux system(btrfs), swap. Can I just split my btrfs partition into 2 and add another partition for experimenting with gentoo?
[22:56] <Wonny> Any ideas where the fan settings are on ubuntu?
[22:56] <Wonny> For some reason my laptop fan is on high and won't go down.
[22:59] <murthy> slow boot on ssd, I could see an error message during boot on tty, something like "giving up". I tried to see the error message with this command "journalctl -r", but I am not able to find it. I want to find the error message and solve the problem that causes the slow boot
[23:00] <murthy> Wonny: hi
[23:07] <Wonny> murthy, hello
[23:08] <murthy> Wonny: I think you have to install a seperate software to change the fan speeds
[23:09] <murthy> Wonny: do you dual boot?
[23:09] <Wonny> Nah. I use ubuntu exclusively
[23:10] <murthy> Wonny: Are you sure the high fan speed is not because of accumulated dust or because of high cpu usage?
[23:10] <Wonny> murthy, It wasn't doing this earlier today. A restart will probably fix it. I don't feel like restarting though zzz.
[23:11] <murthy> Wonny: how is the cpu usage when the fan speed is high?
[23:12] <Wonny> it's fluctuating betwen 28%-31%
[23:12] <murthy> Wonny: your processor is?
[23:14] <Wonny> I can't find what that is running on
[23:14] <Wonny> All I have open is google chrome though
[23:14] <Wonny> Nothing out of the ordinary on my side
[23:15] <murthy> Wonny: https://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[23:15] <murthy> Wonny: have you see the above link?
[23:16] <Wonny> Seeing this now. Thanks!
[23:16] <murthy> Wonny: after the bitcoin boom, website are mining them, I have noticed that idle chrome tabs consuming significant amount of cpu usage.
[23:16] <j0seph> Hi all. While running Ubuntu 18.10 with XFCE, I wanted to remove the workspace changer widget from my panel. In doing so, the entire panel was removed. When I tried to run the panel application, the following message is displayed: "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.xfce.Panel was not provided by any .service files" Is there any way I can go about solving this? Reinstalling xfce4 does not seem to help (not sure
[23:16] <j0seph> why it would, anyway)
[23:18] <murthy> Wonny: the following is the command to find the processor model.     cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
[23:19] <murthy> j0seph: hi
[23:19] <murthy> how did you remove the workspace changer
[23:20] <j0seph> I right clicked on the little applet, right clicked it, then clicked "remove" as I would remove a lot of other widgets.
[23:20] <j0seph> (whoops, said "right click" twice haha)
[23:21] <murthy> j0seph: you said "desktop changer", did you mean to say virtual screen chooser?
[23:22] <j0seph> murthy: well, workspace changer is what I think it was called, but yes I believe that is what I am referring to.
[23:24] <murthy> j0seph: is that the one shown in the following link https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1828505
[23:25] <j0seph> murthy: yep, that's the one
[23:26] <murthy> j0seph: Can you wait while I check for solution
[23:26] <j0seph> murthy: yep
[23:35] <murthy> j0seph: run the following command and tell me what you see.   sudo apt-cache policy xfce4-panel | grep "Installed"
[23:35] <murthy> j0seph: command is case sensitive
[23:36] <j0seph> Okay, just one moment
[23:38] <pi__> fuck you
[23:39] <murthy> !ops
[23:40] <j0seph> murthy: The output is: "Installed: 4.13.3-1ubuntu1"
[23:41] <j0seph> That's odd. I should be running 4.12.4, but the panel version is 4.13.3 which is a pre-release, I believe?
[23:42] <genii> murthy: Please don't do that unless there's some actual emergency
[23:43] <murthy> genii: a user was using obscene language here, that is why I called
[23:43] <Australopithecus> murthy: For inappropriate language, use !language or !nsfw.
[23:44] <murthy> Australopithecus: oh, I was not aware of that, sorry
[23:44] <genii> murthy: A better approach is as just pointed out by Australopithecus. If they persist after being asked more than once, then conconsider asking an op in
[23:44] <Australopithecus> murthy: It's ok! We're all learning. =) Here's a cool resource for you: https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[23:45] <murthy> Australopithecus: thanks
[23:45] <murthy> genii: Will do
[23:46] <sorin-mihai> How come in 16.08 'apt install package --no-install-recommends' works as intended but is not mentioned in 'man apt'? Does it call apt-get in this case?
[23:47] <j0seph> murthy: anything out of the ordinary with my output?
[23:47] <genii> sorin-mihai: apt and apt-get both use dpkg as the backend
[23:47] <murthy> j0seph: run the following command and when It finished reeboot the system and see If you are able to add the desktop switcher widget again "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfce4-panel"
[23:48] <j0seph> Alright. I should mention that the entire panel disappeared rather than just the widget. The error I outlined is what happens when I try to run the panel customisation app. I'll restart now. One moment.
[23:49] <genii> sorin-mihai: ..also, there is no 16.08. There are 16.04, and 16.10 ( which is now End Of Life)
[23:49] <sorin-mihai> genii, i wanted to say 16.04. so in this case should i still use apt? i'm trying to figure out if it would have the same effect regardless if it's 16.04 or other version
[23:50] <IniGit> hi
[23:50] <murthy> slow boot on ssd, I could see an error message during boot on tty, something like "giving up". I tried to see the error message with this command "journalctl -r", but I am not able to find it. I want to find the error message and solve the problem that causes the slow boot
[23:50] <genii> sorin-mihai: Yes, it will work on any version
[23:50] <IniGit> I got a new motherboard and now my pc boots into win10 instead of grub. In the BIOS I do not see the EFI partition as a boot entry. What to do?
[23:50] <sorin-mihai> genii, thanks
[23:51] <OerHeks>  sorin-mihai that action is set in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01norecommend, else there is --install-suggests too in that same config file
[23:51] <IniGit> Is sudo update-grub enough or do I need grub-install?
[23:51] <sorin-mihai> OerHeks, not trying to change the defaults, that would've been too easy
[23:52] <murthy> IniGit: you need to install grub
[23:52] <j0seph> murthy: no change. panel is still gone.
[23:52] <murthy> IniGit: The MBR afaik whill be overwritten by windows
[23:52] <IniGit> murthy: What does that mean? Isn't it still installed on my Ubuntu ssd?
[23:52] <genii> sorin-mihai: If you want to make a custom set of rules for apt, you  can also dump the result of: apt-config dump   ..into /etc/apt.conf  and then edit it to your liking
[23:52] <OerHeks> sorin-mihai,  and it surely is describet in man apt
[23:52] <IniGit> I have win10 on one ssd and Ubuntu on another
[23:52] <IniGit> Grub is on the Ubuntu ssd
[23:53] <IniGit> But the BIOS does not list the Ubuntu ssd as a boot option
[23:53] <murthy> IniGit: so you have selected the ssd as your boot partition in the bios?
[23:53] <IniGit> But I can boot into the ubuntu ssd via boot override
[23:53] <genii> sorin-mihai: Any of what you see on the result of apt-config dump out put can also be set on the command line at run time
[23:53] <tonyt> initgit if you got a drive hooked up, 1 windows and 1 ubuntu, go into your bios and change the boot order to boot off the drive that has ubuntu on it. then boot into ubuntu and run sudo update-grub. that should for your drive with windows on it
[23:54] <tonyt> you should all set after that
[23:54] <sorin-mihai> OerHeks, didn't see '--no-install-recommends' in 'man apt', i did search twice, hence the question.
[23:54] <IniGit> The BIOS does not list the Ubuntu ssd
[23:54] <IniGit> but I will check again
[23:54] <IniGit> But last time I did not see it there
[23:55] <tonyt> inigit find out wich pord you ubuntu drive is plugged into on the mother board and make sure it is in slot 1
[23:55] <tonyt> *port
[23:55] <tonyt> if you got a working ubuntu install on that drive it should boot into it
[23:56] <IniGit> thx. I reboot
[23:56] <tonyt> put the windows drive in slot 2
[23:56] <murthy> tonyt: or trash :D
[23:56] <tonyt> sata ports, if thats what he has, should be numbered  right?
[23:57] <tonyt> sata ports on the mobo that is
[23:57] <tonyt> 1-4, 1-6 etc
[23:57] <murthy> tonyt: yes
[23:57] <tonyt> k
[23:57] <genii> sorin-mihai: The manpage for apt .. Under the Description heading where it lists the commands such as update upgrade full-upgrade  .. please note that update and upgrade also have beside them the command apt-get in both cases, meaning any switches which apt-get uses can also be used for these commands
[23:59] <sorin-mihai> genii, yeah, that i noticed, that's why i assumed it would call apt-get in this case, but it wasn't clear and wanted to be sure