didrocksgood morning07:16
dufluHi didrocks  (#firstpost)07:19
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers, happy Friday!07:49
dufluHi oSoMoN07:52
oSoMoNhey duflu07:52
didrockssalut oSoMoN07:54
oSoMoNsalut didrocks07:54
Laneyhappy friday!09:01
duflupew pew09:07
dufluMorning willcooke, Laney09:07
willcookehappy Friday afternoon duflu09:08
dufluAlso thanks to Laney for getting important stuff done while I slept09:08
ograthey allow you to sleep ?!? ... what kind of manager do you have ?!09:09
seb128hey willcooke Laney duflu09:09
dufluShit. He didn't know09:10
seb128happy friday indeed09:10
dufluOh hi seb128 :)09:10
willcookehey ogra!  I was reading about the new Orange Pi yesterday, nice specs.  Do you know if there are any plans for Ubuntu Core support in the works?09:10
ogranone that i know of, nope ... what SoC is it ?09:11
willcookeAllwinner S <something>  7 I think09:11
willcookemaybe 1109:11
ograchances are good that it is supported by my linux-generic-allwinner snap09:12
willcookeCorrection, H609:12
willcookeogra, https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/orange-pi-3-specs-pricing,news-59817.html09:12
willcookeUSB3, 2GB RAM, eMMC, gigabit eth, mini pci09:13
willcookeClaims it comes with Ubuntu09:13
Laneyhey duflu seb128 ogra willcooke09:15
ograyeah, likely classic with a BSP kernel09:15
willcookeHey Laney, how's the tooth?09:15
Laneyduflu: np09:15
Laneysweet dreams young prince09:15
Laneysame ol09:15
willcookeogra, neat!  I'll get one09:15
dufluwillcooke, before anyone gets confused, the Australia Day holiday on Monday is not on Australia Day. We just have a cultural need to allocate a Monday off for all holidays that fall on weekends09:17
willcookeduflu, ack, makes sense09:17
* Laney approves of that09:19
jbichahappy Friday13:23
seb128hey jbicha, happy friday to you as well!13:39
seb128mdeslaur, bah, not you as well! What's up with people adding ubuntu delta/tech debt with workarounds like disabling features or tests instead of fixing the problems :/13:39
mdeslaurseb128: I couldn't figure it out, you'll welcome to help if you'd like :)13:40
seb128mdeslaur, not today sorry, but still that's swipping dust under the carpet and adding technical debt13:41
mdeslaurseb128: I completely agree, hopefully I can revert it before release13:41
seb128what's wrong with letting things blocked in proposed until they get fixed?13:42
mdeslaurseb128: but but but, it messes with our kpis!13:43
seb128we need a new kpi for "tech debt" :)13:43
seb128joke aside it's a trend I don't like13:44
seb128doko did the same this week by just disabling automake tests and adding delta over Debian for that13:44
* seb128 notes to raise that as an issue in Malta13:44
seb128or if we just workaround things being blocked in proposed by disabling features/tests then why do we bother having that infra as well, let's go back to just have things just land in the archive13:45
mdeslaurhey, I agree with you13:48
mdeslaurI've now TIL, so I'll be the one fixing it13:49
mdeslaurbut the security fixes did need to go in, so it couldn't wait13:49
seb128mdeslaur, k, thanks. The security fix point makes sense, that was not obvious from the changelog though. Would be nice in those cases to state as "workaround to unblock due to <....>, that can be reverted once the current version migrates"13:51
seb128so if it goes sitting there and someone wants to deal with it then they know the context of why it was done13:51
mdeslaurah yes, good idea13:51
seb128anyway, enough on the topic, thx for responding!13:51
seb128jbicha, good to see that mathias removed the libflatpak depends from the xdg portal just before 1.2.0 :)16:58
seb128willcooke, ^16:58
jbichaseb128: yes, he beat me to it :)17:02
jbichaI wasn't expecting 1.2 today though17:02
jbichalast I heard was a vague "early 2019" I think17:03
seb128what did they add to it?17:04
jbichamaybe easiest for me to just link you to https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/blob/master/NEWS if I understand your question right17:09
kenvandinei was surprised by 1.217:25
sergiusenskenvandine: hey, I am trying out Disco and noticed that Ubuntu Software is marking every snap as unconfined. Is there a bug for that or should I log one?17:41
kenvandinesergiusens: oh it is?17:41
kenvandinei haven't seen a bug for that17:41
kenvandineso please file it17:42
* sergiusens waits for the "Software catalog is being loaded message" to go away, tic toc17:42
sergiusenskenvandine: I have this installed on my Surface Pro 4, have to say, performance feels better even if it might be a placebo, but most of all, touch has really improved, the osk works a lot better now.17:43
kenvandineoh good to hear17:44
sergiusensthe only miss is the dock, if you hint a drag, it is hard to get out of it and the shell just goes wonky17:44
jbichasergiusens: how are you running Ubuntu Software?17:51
jbichawe patch out the kudos stuff17:52
sergiusensjbicha: by clicking on the icon, I just killed the process which stayed after GUI closing and it moved on to "Software Catalog is being downloaded",  for the past 5 minutes17:52
jbichathere are some open bugs in Debian about that software catalog is being downloaded issue too17:52
jbichawe didn't used to have that problem :( (maybe newer 3.30 releases)17:53
willcookeI'm calling it a week.  Have a good weekend all o/18:00
seb128have a nice w.e desktopers!19:29
sergiusenskenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/181335219:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1813352 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "confined applications show as unconfined" [Undecided,New]19:34
kenvandinesergiusens: thanks19:35
oSoMoNhave a good week-end everyone!21:25

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