[07:16] <didrocks> good morning
[07:19] <duflu> Hi didrocks  (#firstpost)
[07:21] <didrocks> \o/
[07:49] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers, happy Friday!
[07:52] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[07:52] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:54] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[07:54] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[08:51] <willcooke> morning
[09:01] <Laney> pew
[09:01] <Laney> happy friday!
[09:07] <duflu> pew pew
[09:07] <duflu> Morning willcooke, Laney
[09:08] <willcooke> happy Friday afternoon duflu
[09:08] <duflu> Also thanks to Laney for getting important stuff done while I slept
[09:09] <ogra> they allow you to sleep ?!? ... what kind of manager do you have ?!
[09:09] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney duflu
[09:10] <duflu> Shit. He didn't know
[09:10] <seb128> happy friday indeed
[09:10] <duflu> Oh hi seb128 :)
[09:10] <willcooke> hey ogra!  I was reading about the new Orange Pi yesterday, nice specs.  Do you know if there are any plans for Ubuntu Core support in the works?
[09:11] <ogra> none that i know of, nope ... what SoC is it ?
[09:11] <willcooke> Allwinner S <something>  7 I think
[09:11] <willcooke> maybe 11
[09:11] <ogra> nice
[09:12] <ogra> chances are good that it is supported by my linux-generic-allwinner snap
[09:12] <willcooke> Correction, H6
[09:12] <willcooke> ogra, https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/orange-pi-3-specs-pricing,news-59817.html
[09:13] <willcooke> USB3, 2GB RAM, eMMC, gigabit eth, mini pci
[09:13] <willcooke> Claims it comes with Ubuntu
[09:15] <Laney> hey duflu seb128 ogra willcooke
[09:15] <ogra> yeah, likely classic with a BSP kernel
[09:15] <willcooke> Hey Laney, how's the tooth?
[09:15] <Laney> duflu: np
[09:15] <Laney> sweet dreams young prince
[09:15] <Laney> same ol
[09:15] <willcooke> ogra, neat!  I'll get one
[09:17] <duflu> willcooke, before anyone gets confused, the Australia Day holiday on Monday is not on Australia Day. We just have a cultural need to allocate a Monday off for all holidays that fall on weekends
[09:17] <willcooke> duflu, ack, makes sense
[09:19]  * Laney approves of that
[09:26] <willcooke> hrm
[13:23] <jbicha> happy Friday
[13:39] <seb128> hey jbicha, happy friday to you as well!
[13:39] <seb128> mdeslaur, bah, not you as well! What's up with people adding ubuntu delta/tech debt with workarounds like disabling features or tests instead of fixing the problems :/
[13:40] <mdeslaur> seb128: I couldn't figure it out, you'll welcome to help if you'd like :)
[13:41] <seb128> mdeslaur, not today sorry, but still that's swipping dust under the carpet and adding technical debt
[13:41] <mdeslaur> seb128: I completely agree, hopefully I can revert it before release
[13:42] <seb128> what's wrong with letting things blocked in proposed until they get fixed?
[13:43] <mdeslaur> seb128: but but but, it messes with our kpis!
[13:43] <seb128> we need a new kpi for "tech debt" :)
[13:44] <seb128> joke aside it's a trend I don't like
[13:44] <seb128> doko did the same this week by just disabling automake tests and adding delta over Debian for that
[13:44]  * seb128 notes to raise that as an issue in Malta
[13:45] <seb128> or if we just workaround things being blocked in proposed by disabling features/tests then why do we bother having that infra as well, let's go back to just have things just land in the archive
[13:48] <mdeslaur> hey, I agree with you
[13:49] <mdeslaur> I've now TIL, so I'll be the one fixing it
[13:49] <mdeslaur> but the security fixes did need to go in, so it couldn't wait
[13:51] <seb128> mdeslaur, k, thanks. The security fix point makes sense, that was not obvious from the changelog though. Would be nice in those cases to state as "workaround to unblock due to <....>, that can be reverted once the current version migrates"
[13:51] <seb128> so if it goes sitting there and someone wants to deal with it then they know the context of why it was done
[13:51] <mdeslaur> ah yes, good idea
[13:51] <seb128> anyway, enough on the topic, thx for responding!
[16:58] <seb128> jbicha, good to see that mathias removed the libflatpak depends from the xdg portal just before 1.2.0 :)
[16:58] <seb128> willcooke, ^
[16:58] <willcooke> cool!
[16:58] <willcooke> thanks
[16:59] <seb128> np!
[17:02] <jbicha> seb128: yes, he beat me to it :)
[17:02] <jbicha> I wasn't expecting 1.2 today though
[17:03] <jbicha> last I heard was a vague "early 2019" I think
[17:04] <seb128> what did they add to it?
[17:09] <jbicha> maybe easiest for me to just link you to https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/blob/master/NEWS if I understand your question right
[17:25] <kenvandine> i was surprised by 1.2
[17:41] <sergiusens> kenvandine: hey, I am trying out Disco and noticed that Ubuntu Software is marking every snap as unconfined. Is there a bug for that or should I log one?
[17:41] <kenvandine> sergiusens: oh it is?
[17:41] <kenvandine> i haven't seen a bug for that
[17:42] <kenvandine> so please file it
[17:42] <sergiusens> gotcha
[17:42]  * sergiusens waits for the "Software catalog is being loaded message" to go away, tic toc
[17:43] <sergiusens> kenvandine: I have this installed on my Surface Pro 4, have to say, performance feels better even if it might be a placebo, but most of all, touch has really improved, the osk works a lot better now.
[17:44] <kenvandine> oh good to hear
[17:44] <sergiusens> the only miss is the dock, if you hint a drag, it is hard to get out of it and the shell just goes wonky
[17:51] <jbicha> sergiusens: how are you running Ubuntu Software?
[17:52] <jbicha> we patch out the kudos stuff
[17:52] <sergiusens> jbicha: by clicking on the icon, I just killed the process which stayed after GUI closing and it moved on to "Software Catalog is being downloaded",  for the past 5 minutes
[17:52] <jbicha> there are some open bugs in Debian about that software catalog is being downloaded issue too
[17:53] <jbicha> we didn't used to have that problem :( (maybe newer 3.30 releases)
[18:00] <willcooke> I'm calling it a week.  Have a good weekend all o/
[19:29] <seb128> have a nice w.e desktopers!
[19:34] <sergiusens> kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1813352
[19:35] <kenvandine> sergiusens: thanks
[21:25] <oSoMoN> have a good week-end everyone!