[01:49] <Deihmos> winscp makes it really easy to access the server files. is there any other tool similar to it?
[01:50] <sarnold> filezilla? downloadzilla? something like that.. I think also does sftp
[06:54] <oskie> hello, does one need ntp package for time synchronization in bionic, or is the default systemd timedated stuff enough?
[08:11] <ducasse> oskie: timedated is enough
[08:26] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:42] <kstenerud> I'm getting a strange error in openvpn:
[09:43] <kstenerud> Jan 25 09:42:17 tester ovpn-uk-kstenerud[2111]: Options error: --ca fails with '/home/karl/.sesame/canonical_ca.crt': No such file or directory (errno=2)
[09:43] <kstenerud> and yet: # ls /home/karl/.sesame/canonical_ca.crt
[09:43] <kstenerud>  /home/karl/.sesame/canonical_ca.crt
[09:49] <blackflow> Clusterer: how about you fix your connection eh?
[10:44] <lordievader> kstenerud: Can the user running openvpn read that file?
[10:46] <kstenerud> It turns out that it can't read things in user directories, even if started by root
[10:46] <kstenerud> even if the user directory is owned by root
[10:46] <kstenerud> even if the user doesn't exist
[11:31] <herald85> kstenerud: maybe apparmor is intervening? If it were RHEL i'd look at selinux
[11:32] <kstenerud> I was able to get it to work by copying the files into /etc/openvn and updating the conf file
[11:32] <kstenerud> this was in a standard bionic vm via uvt-kvm
[11:33] <kstenerud> nothing in journalctl mentioned apparmor issues
[13:21] <mdeslaur> rbasak: hi! are you working on mysql 5.7.25 in debian?
[13:26] <rbasak> mdeslaur: I think Lars has prepared it, but it's probably waiting on me to upload or something.
[13:26]  * rbasak needs to give Lars a DM upload bit.
[13:26] <rbasak> mdeslaur: how can I help?
[13:26] <mdeslaur> rbasak: oh, was just wondering if it was being worked on, no rush
[13:27] <mdeslaur> rbasak: thanks
[20:11] <Deihmos> Wondering if I should install 18.10. Probably no benefit
[20:16] <teward> Deihmos: if this is a production install and not 'testing' or 'development' i'd probably not install 18.10
[20:16] <teward> but I also don't know what the original problem(s) if any you were having were