[03:53] <mathpacka> Hello?
[03:54] <lubot> <N0um3n0> @mathpacka [<mathpacka> Hello?], Hi
[03:56] <mathpacka> hi there, I'm new to irc, used the web version a little in the past but new to using it with Quassel
[09:25] <UbuntuUser|55836> Hi
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[12:31] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> Hello. A question of who knows little of these things: is there anything like Lubuntu server or just Ubuntu server? If it exists, what advantages could there be since we would basically work only on the terminal?
[12:42] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @JyotiGomes [Hello. A question of who knows little of these things: is there anything like Lu …], yes it exist. The advantage are less resource consumption because it doesn't have x and de
[12:43] <lubot> <HMollerCl> smaller iso also, beause it doesn't come with all the x and de software
[12:43] <lubot> <HMollerCl> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[12:51] <lubot> <aptghetto> Just Ubuntu Server, there is no Lubuntu server. ... A Linux server does not have a GUI.
[12:55] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @aptghetto [Just Ubuntu Server, there is no Lubuntu server. ... A Linux server does not have a G …], Yes. I imagined that. In my question i did not explain myself well: I wanted to refer to the advantages of using the Lubuntu core on using the Ubuntu core for servers. The issue had to do with the existence or not of differences
[12:55] <lubot>  between Lubuntu and Ubuntu at this level, when we no longer work with DE. And i guess they are the same at this level.
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[13:06] <lubot> <aptghetto> Either you install a server version, which does not have a GUI, or you install a Desktop system, which has a GUI. If you install a GUI on a server, you do it wrong
[13:09] <lubot> <aptghetto> The package lubuntu-core does not exist in 18.10
[13:24] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @aptghetto [The package lubuntu-core does not exist in 18.10], So, for servers, i just use Ubuntu, right?
[13:37] <lubot> <HMollerCl> if you don't wat to use de, yes
[13:43] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @HMollerCl [if you don't wat to use de, yes], Why the reazon for using DD in a server?
[13:44] <lubot> <HMollerCl> it's up to you, maybe you prefer settings things up with de.
[13:46] <lubot> <aptghetto> There is no reason to use a DE on a server
[13:46] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @HMollerCl [it's up to you, maybe you prefer settings things up with de.], Maybe the server will be lighter without DE
[13:46] <lubot> <aptghetto> There are only reasons to not use a DE
[13:46] <lubot> <aptghetto> Security for example
[13:46] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @JyotiGomes [Maybe the server will be lighter without DE], yes
[13:47] <lubot> <HMollerCl> it's better not to use de
[13:48] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> Thanks Hans Möller and apt-ghetto for this short server lesson :-)
[13:50] <lubot> <aptghetto> If you like to learn administer servers, set up a server in vm (Vmware, Virtualbox) and install SSH
[13:52] <lubot> <aptghetto> After installation you can minimise the window and connect from your host system with a SSH session into your running server
[15:57] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @aptghetto [After installation you can minimise the window and connect from your host system …], thanks
[16:56] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> Just to inform about this error while upgrading Lubuntu1904: "The following packages will be updated: ...    compton-conf ... 1 packages updated, 0 new packages installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. ... 40 packages not fully installed or removed. ... You need to get 0 B / 44.4 kB files. ... After this operation, an additional
[16:56] <lubot> 162 kB of disk space will be used. ... Do you wish to continue? [S / n] s ... (Read the database ... 217281 files and directories currently installed.) ... Preparing to unpack ... / compton-conf_0.14.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ... ... Unpacking compton-conf (0.14.0-0ubuntu1) about (0.4.0-1) ... ... dpkg: error while processing the file /var/cache/apt/arc
[16:56] <lubot> hives/compton-conf_0.14.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack): ...   trying to write '/usr/share/compton-conf/translations/compton-conf_ca.qm', which is also in the compton-conf-l10n package 0.13.0-0ubuntu1 ... Errors were encountered while processing: ...   /var/cache/apt/archives/compton-conf_0.14.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ... E: Sub-process / usr / bin / d
[16:56] <lubot> pkg returned an error code (1)"
[17:01] <lubot> <kc2bez> @tsimonq2 is working on it. There should be an update soon that will fix it.
[17:24] <IGer> Hi, I was asking for support on forum and wass suggested to make a bug-report about my problem. Is https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-control-center the right place to do it?
[17:25] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @IGer [<IGer> Hi, I was asking for support on forum and wass suggested to make a bug-re …], No, sorry
[17:26] <IGer> can you tell where I can place Lubuntu bug-report?
[17:26] <lubot> <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/
[17:27] <IGer> thank you
[17:27] <tsimonq2> IGer: Wait
[17:27] <tsimonq2> Real quick
[17:27] <tsimonq2> Is it compton-conf upgrade issues?
[17:28] <IGer> hmm. no, its battery monitor that doesnt work, though it does on ubuntu and ToriOS
[17:29] <IGer> btw link you provided is broken to me. cant access it/
[17:31] <IGer> can you?
[17:43] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> Eh that's pretty disappointing.
[17:44] <tsimonq2> IGer: I can access it just fine
[17:44] <tsimonq2> I did have to briefly start nginx on that server though.
[17:44] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @SamuelBanya [Eh that's pretty disappointing.], ?
[17:45] <IGer> do i need special app for it or its avaliable just form browser?
[17:45] <IGer> link I mean
[17:46] <tsimonq2> IGer: Just in the browser
[17:46] <tsimonq2> I can access that page fine from multiple devices
[17:46] <lubot> <kc2bez> I was able to get to it here too.
[17:49] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> Kinda wanted to get some system admin experience tbh.
[17:51] <IGer> Ok, i heard my gov blocked access to many ip-s. Just tried to access it through anonymizer - it works. omfg
[18:10] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> Whoops wrong channel for starters
[18:10] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> On my behalf
[18:11] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> But question: But sure yeah will that involve server side work as well? @tsimonq2 could I spin a couple services for Lubuntu?
[18:12] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'd like to see solid practice on your part first
[18:12] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Stand up a few services on your own servers
[18:12] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Play with it, break it, mess with it on your own
[18:14] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'm going to be blunt with you here @SamuelBanya: I don't think anyone will trust you to do server side work until you can prove you know what you're doing
[18:16] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> Even minor tasks though?
[18:16] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Yep
[18:17] <lubot> <tsimonq2> There is no ACL for "minor tasks" work, you either have SSH access or you don't
[18:18] <IGer> <tsimonq2> I see you found my report
[18:18] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> I kind of feel like a gatekeeper effect though honestly though. At least help me get there. I've been trying to do it with my raspberry pi but have had no luck with port forwarding at bare minimum though.
[18:19] <lubot> <tsimonq2> You have to understand that Lubuntu, like almost all organizations, won't give a beginner the keys to the castle, regardless of how well-intentioned you are
[18:19] <lubot> <tsimonq2> It has SO MUCH critical data that we can't afford to have an `rm -rf` ran somewhere that shouldn't be ran, etc.
[18:20] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> For sure thats understandable
[18:20] <lubot> <tsimonq2> If you can't figure out port forwarding, I'm sorry, but it proves my point even further
[18:20] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> Thanks for helping a beginner.
[18:21] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'll be more than happy to answer any questions you have
[18:21] <lubot> <tsimonq2> ...but on your own stuff :)
[18:29] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> Yeah you're right.
[18:30] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> My ego flares up easily sometime so I didn't mean any harm. Just wanted to get some experience honestly. I'll try to make the Pi a test bed for starters
[18:31] <wxl[m]> tbh first order of business with production sysadmin work is security. And that means trusting no one. It's not about *you*, @SamuelBanya
[18:33] <wxl[m]> Also the idea behind forum admin had nothing to do with sysadmin work
[19:05] <wxl[m]> And offtopic would be a good place for such discussions
[19:12] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> Yeah for sure, I asked in the wrong section my bad.
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[22:39] <Fatmeatball_> Lubuntu disables the keyboard after switching my tablet PC (hp/compaq tc4400) to tablet mode, but I can't re-enable it after switching it back.
[22:47] <Fatmeatball_> test
[22:47] <Fatmeatball_> (wrong channel)