[00:20] <jeffrey_f> I read somewhere that ubuntu is finally ditching python 2 for 3. When is that going to happen? and When for LTS?
[00:24] <OerHeks> python2.7something is still available, in main. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Other_base_system_changes_since_16.04_LTS
[00:25] <OerHeks> and the last LTS to provide that
[00:28] <jeffrey_f> Thanks!
[00:33] <jeffrey_f> quit
[00:52] <phelix> Would anyone have any idea why my del button stopped deleting files and folders?
[00:56] <phelix> Anyone know what the hell is going on? this is driving me nuts!
[00:56] <phelix> really need my del button to be working properly right now
[00:59] <OerHeks> on what ubuntu is this?
[00:59] <phelix> 16.04
[00:59] <phelix> just totally quit working
[00:59] <Bambus> phelix: have you tried the insert button? Maybe after you press this del work
[01:00] <OerHeks> and where are the files stored? in your home or else?
[01:00] <phelix> nope that isn't helping
[01:00] <phelix> its on my home
[01:00] <phelix> desktop pc
[01:00] <Bambus> hm...
[01:00] <phelix> sitting at the desktop. Delete does nothing now
[01:00] <Bambus> have you tested another keyboard?
[01:01] <phelix> yes, def not thet keyboard
[01:01] <phelix> you can even see the cursor blink when i hit hte del button
[01:01] <phelix> But just does nothing
[01:01] <Bambus> hm what could it be then? I have no idea
[01:01] <Bambus> Sry
[01:01] <OerHeks> cursor blink...
[01:03] <sonicwind> does it work elsewhere, like in a text editor?
[01:06] <texla> Ubuntu 18.04.1..How to download a package to home directory..or how to move from desktop to home..package is gnome calendar
[01:18] <phelix> Can someone please help me map my delete key back
[01:18] <phelix> I am not sure what happened. But it doesn't seem to be working and I can't figure out how to map it back properly.
[01:19] <oft_gegong> what tool did you use to map it in the first place?
[01:19] <dmnur> texla: what do you mean by downloading a package? A *.deb file?
[01:19] <phelix> i never did anything
[01:19] <phelix> it just stopped working
[01:19] <phelix> wondering if something in here might have messed it up
[01:19] <oft_gegong> did you try another keyboard?
[01:20] <phelix> yes
[01:20] <phelix> and rebooted
[01:20] <phelix> I can see blinker move when I hite delete. or when in the text entry and i clic "Switch to next source using" and hit delete it says delete in there
[01:20] <phelix> but the button does nothiong
[01:21] <phelix> now i think i really messed it up with this text entry editor
[01:21] <oft_gegong> oh I know what the problem is
[01:21] <oft_gegong> you have INSERT on
[01:21] <phelix> tried that
[01:21] <oft_gegong> hit the INSERT key and try again
[01:21] <oft_gegong> oh
[01:21] <phelix> doesn't make delete work
[01:21] <phelix> yes just double tried again
[01:22] <oft_gegong> it sounds like the Desktop Environment you are using is causing issues with configuring the Delete key
[01:22] <phelix> well its just stock ubuntu dekstop whatever comes with 16.04
[01:22] <phelix> it was working earlier today
[01:22] <phelix> can i reset everything keyboard related from scratch?
[01:22] <oft_gegong> lol yeah that would be the first clue
[01:23] <oft_gegong> If you go into the keyboard settings, you can check to make sure nothing bogus got turned on
[01:23] <phelix> Well there is no setting for delete in there
[01:23] <phelix> I don't understand this stupid program very well
[01:24] <phelix> not sure whatits doing.
[01:24] <oft_gegong> Maybe you hit Shift too many times and enabled a keyboard feature that disables the Delete key or something
[01:24] <phelix> well can i undo this somethow?
[01:24] <phelix> if i hit shift to many times how do I undo that?
[01:24] <oft_gegong> Hmmm
[01:24] <phelix> a reboot isn't fixing this
[01:25] <phelix> something is bad.. I need to reset my entire keyboard from scratch
[01:25] <phelix> i don't know how to do this
[01:25] <dmnur> phelix: gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings |grep Del
[01:26] <oft_gegong> well this might sound bad, but try creating a new user, because the bad configuration might be in your $HOME/~ directory
[01:26] <phelix> dmnur, org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source-backward ['Delete']
[01:26] <phelix> is what it returned
[01:26] <dmnur> phelix: that's why.
[01:26] <phelix> Do you know how to change this back?
[01:27] <oft_gegong> gsettings, dang, you could try gsettings-editor or something to try to remove it
[01:27]  * oft_gegong shrugs
[01:28] <phelix> there a gsettings reset or something?
[01:28] <oft_gegong> hmmmm
[01:28] <dmnur> phelix: yes. gsettings reset org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source-backward
[01:29] <oft_gegong> yay
[01:29] <oft_gegong> darn dem gnomez
[01:30] <oft_gegong> at these they made an easy solution
[01:30] <phelix> Ther ewe go!
[01:30] <phelix> thanks
[01:32] <phelix> dmnur, do you know how to make this work now with the file manager?
[01:32] <phelix> i can delete something on the desktop by clicking and hitting delete. But if i am in the file manager and hit del on something it does nothing
[01:34] <dmnur> phelix: https://askubuntu.com/a/778985
[01:35] <phelix> I dont ever in my life remember having to do this before to get this working. It was just working earlier too.. wonder why I have to run these commands.
[01:36] <swift110> hey
[01:36] <phelix> But thta did it.. Thank you dmnur
[01:37] <dmnur> So Nautilus really doesn't move files to trash when you press Delete?.. Can't check here myself, using Thunar.
[01:38] <phelix> I always thought that it did.
[01:38] <phelix> I've never had to manually run that stuff before to get it working. It was deleting files earlier today. I had to of done something
[01:40] <raub> Is there a reason to create a group for a service such that its gid < 1000?
[01:41] <raub> Or that is just convention?
[01:43] <OerHeks> it is unusual, see this example hfs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[01:43] <dreamcat4> hey there. i am trying to get a realtime kernel for ubuntu 18.10
[01:44] <dreamcat4> seems i have to compile it myself
[01:44] <dreamcat4> still compiling...
[01:44] <oft_gegong> what's a realtime kernel
[01:45] <oft_gegong> "a realtime kernel is where you open your browser and search realtime kernel" </joking>
[01:46] <dmnur> dreamcat4: isn't that what you need? https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/linux-lowlatency
[01:46] <oft_gegong> down with web browsers!
[01:46] <dreamcat4> dmnur: unfortunately NOT, it seems
[01:46] <dreamcat4> there is some other pages explaining why i was directed to
[01:47] <dreamcat4> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime 'are no longer being supported'
[01:47] <dreamcat4> its a set of patches for hard realtime pre-emption. wheras the 'lowlatency' is soft pre-emption
[01:49] <dreamcat4> so am following this guide here https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51669724/install-rt-linux-patch-for-ubuntu
[01:50] <dreamcat4> what kindda confuses me is why the patcheset was not upstreamed. they seem to have been around for a long time now
[01:52] <MarkBeaks> yo
[01:53] <MarkBeaks> so uh
[01:53] <MarkBeaks> I'm kind of new to IRC
[01:53] <MarkBeaks> but I want to learn and configure it
[01:53] <MarkBeaks> how would I go about doing that...?
[01:54] <MarkBeaks> also, I want to set up PurpleReddit, but I don't exactly know how to do that... :v
[01:54] <MarkBeaks> Can anyone help?
[01:58] <Devrim> Is there a reason to use dnsmasq over the /etc/hosts file to block (ad/malware) domains?
[02:00] <dmnur> dreamcat4: yeah, I see, noone builds RT kernel packages anymore. Well, good luck with compiling. :D
[02:00] <dreamcat4> dmnur: yeah its still compiling
[02:00] <dreamcat4> i suppose i should have timed it, to know for the next time. probably about half an hour
[02:01] <dreamcat4> uuh, it just finished
[02:03] <Set8> Hey
[02:04] <dmnur> Devrim: if you have many machines and don't want to sync your blacklist on all of them, then yes, using dnsmasq would be better.
[02:05] <Devrim> dmnur I will be using the list in my router, so /etc/hosts should be okay?
[02:07] <dmnur> Devrim: yeah, although with REALLY big blacklists dnsmasq probably would be faster. I don't really know if the hosts file get cached.
[02:08] <Devrim> Hmm okay thanks, my router isn't an expensive one so performance might be important lol
[02:08] <Devrim> Might as well give dnsmasq a try
[02:09] <dmnur> Devrim: try both and make performance tests, that's the best solution. :)
[02:15] <benl90> Hello, I've question regrads strelaysrv on ubuntu. I manage to run the strelaysrv, but the problem I don't know where the service save the conf, I can't see one. I already read http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/strelaysrv.1.html still no clue. Can anyone help? Thanks.
[02:20] <dmnur> benl90: check /var/lib/strelaysrv
[02:20] <benl90> dmnur: I edit vim /lib/systemd/system/syncthing-relaysrv.service is that okay?
[02:21] <dmnur> benl90: it's better to copy it to /etc/systemd/system and edit there.
[02:21] <dmnur> benl90: and then don't forget to run: systemctl daemon-reload
[02:21] <benl90> dmnur: Will it reload from system?
[02:22] <dmnur> benl90: /etc/systemd always takes precedence over /lib/systemd.
[02:23] <benl90> Okay. Let me try. Thanks dmnur
[02:24] <benl90> dmnur: I need to delete the binding then?
[02:25] <benl90> dmnur: there's a linked file on /etc/systemd/system
[02:26] <dmnur> benl90: pointing to /lib/systemd/system/...?
[02:26] <benl90> dmnur: Yeah. I just delete it :p
[02:26] <dmnur> benl90: ya, it's safe to delete.
[02:27] <qwebirc16374> Hello! I have issues with USB speakers and ethernet not working if I suspend my system and wake it up. However, if I suspend and re-awaken it for a 2nd time, everything works fine.
[02:30] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: Ubuntu version? And `dmesg` output, please (use paste.ubuntu.com).
[02:33] <qwebirc16374> @dmnur 4.18.0-13-generic, 18.10 64 bit. Would you want me to grep for a certain pattern for dmesg, the output is too verbose
[02:34] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: not really sure what to grep, so paste it all.
[02:36] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pWdkqmkwFn/
[02:39] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: This is after 2nd suspend-resume.
[02:39] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: I guess the system is already in this state when you suspended twice? Haven't you rebooted?
[02:41] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: not rebooted. The 2nd suspend-resume fixes everything
[02:41] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: do you want me to reboot and re-paste?
[02:41] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: or reboot and do dmesg after first suspend?
[02:46] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: no, it's OK. Is it a laptop?
[02:47] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: No, desktop.
[02:49] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: not really sure about Ethernet then... OK, are USB speakers connected to some external USB hub?
[02:49] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: no external hub.
[03:00] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: lspci | grep -i -e ether -e usb
[03:02] <swashdev> Has anybody else had issues with Ubuntu 18.04.1 randomly going to a black screen and becoming unresponsive?
[03:02] <swashdev> This keeps happening to me without warning and I have to unplug my laptop and take the battery out to boot again
[03:03] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cZ67CW2mpZ/
[03:04] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: USB speakers are connected to a USB 3.0 port? Are there other USB 3.0 devices?
[03:05] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: Yes, and I do have more USB devices
[03:05] <qwebirc16374> dmnur..Let me check if all the USB ports are 3.0, I am not sure I remember. I had assembled this in 2011
[03:10] <qwebirc16374> Dmnur: Oops. I think the prev. command output suggests all USb 3.0
[03:13] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: actually no, there are two EHCI (USB 2.0) and two XHCI (USB 3.0). From dmesg output I see that something's wrong with usb 5-1, and it's XHCI.
[03:14] <qwebirc16374> dmbur: Sorry, I just figured out 2.0 and 3.0 from lsusb
[03:14] <qwebirc16374> dmnur - so, something off with a USB 3.0 port?
[03:16] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: Are you suggesting it's a hardware level issue ?
[03:17] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: with this particular USB 3.0 *controller* - Etron EJ168. See here, note #8 in particular: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/802278
[03:17] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: Thank you!
[03:18] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: looks like this controller has many issues, there are different kludges for it in the kernel. And noone was able to fix it entirely.
[03:18] <qwebirc16374> dmnur - kernel level bug, is it?
[03:18] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: oh ok
[03:19] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: still don't understand why Ethernet adapter stops working too.
[03:20] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: maybe it's USB controller making too much noise at the bus, and that bus is shared with Ethernet adapter.
[03:20] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: I face unresponsive video sites - netflix and youtube, not sure if it is related to the sound. I assumed it is an ethernet issue when other (non-streaming) sites may be fine
[03:21] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: I will check it again sometime..
[03:21] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: you can try to connect your speakers to a USB 2.0 port.
[03:22] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: I can try that too, it may take me some time though.
[03:25] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: well, come back if that won't help. But I think your only option then would be to disable USB 3.0 controller in BIOS and, if you really need USB 3.0, buy another controller that has better drivers as an expansion card.
[03:28] <qwebirc16374> dmnur - you mean another motherboard?
[03:30] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: no, there are cheap PCI-E expansion cards. Search the web: "usb 3.0 expansion card"
[03:31] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: thanks a lot! I will try getting one..
[03:31] <dmnur> qwebirc16374: you're welcome.
[03:31] <qwebirc16374> dmnur: Thank you! I really appreciate it.. Have a great day..
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:29] <benl90> lotuspsychje: morning
[04:33] <kinghat> anyone here have an asus merlin router?
[04:34] <DarwinElf> how do I reinitialize a display after switching with a KVM switch changed it from 1600x1200 to 640x480?
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> kinghat: sounds more like a ##networking problem?
[04:44] <p0a> Hello, I'm trying to turn the brightness down from the command line, can it be done?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !info xbacklight | p0a
[04:49] <p0a> lotuspsychje: `no inputs have backlight property'. I've done it before on windows
[04:49] <p0a> lotuspsychje: I found some help online, one sec
[04:52] <p0a> lotuspsychje: my /sys/class/backlight directory is not linked to the right place; it is containing intel_backlight though, which appears to be linked correctlyt
[04:53] <p0a> lotuspsychje: nevermind, I think I can follow https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/backlight
[04:58] <p0a> thanks again
[05:02] <DarwinElf> help meeee
[05:09] <aneon> DarwinElf: display settings?
[06:31] <qwebirc60710> Hi all, is there an easy way to disable and reenable the right mouse button in Lubuntu 16.04 and te remove the icon in the toolbar that brings up the file manager?
[07:22] <MJCD> lol i'm going to go with "no"
[07:54] <eeddaa> salut
[08:06] <pragomer> hi, I got this bug:
[08:06] <pragomer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/1724650
[08:06] <pragomer> installing ubuntu 18.04 on an acer laptop e5-771g
[08:06] <pragomer> although I am a more expi. linux user I can not get to install ubuntu on this machine
[08:07] <pragomer> problem seems to be (??) intel-microcode? but how can I got this package while booting the install medium? (bios is update btw)
[08:14] <DARKAD000> Hi all!
[08:14] <DARKAD000> I have many subdirectories and I would like to have a complete list of files ordered by date
[08:17] <macsys> quit
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> pragomer: did you try other ubuntu versions yet with higher kernel for example?
[09:34] <stront2> Hi, i just upgraded from Ubunto 18.04 to 18.10 and my encrypted zfs containers were lost and i am stuck in the initramfs with no filesystems.  Any pointers as to what i should do?  I don't mind re-installing everything, but I would at least like to manually mount the filesystems before I do that.
[09:34] <ikonia> boot from live media, manually decrypt, get the zfs module and mount
[09:35] <ikonia> you will understand what happened then
[09:35] <stront2> ikonia: ok. will give it a shot.
[10:10] <talx> hello guys
[10:10] <talx> did any of you managed to install nrpe on an ubuntu machine? I get connection reset by peer, though it seems settings are fine
[10:15] <pragomer> I just tried pop!_os 18.04 and it worked just perfect
[10:15] <pragomer> wonder how I could realize this install with ubuntu
[10:16] <Beetlejuice> im flashing space for testing
[10:19] <albech> Since upgrading from 16.04 to 18.04 i can no longer make internal DNS resolving work when connected to our DC openvpn. Anyone else experience this?
[10:19] <ikonia> albech: who cares what other people see at this point you need to understand your specific problem
[10:20] <esro> albech: works for me.
[10:20] <ikonia> albech: the dns governer changed to systemd, most of the concepts are the same as dnsmasq but just systemd governs it
[10:20] <ikonia> parts of that change could impact your resolution setup depending on your personal setup and your vpn setup
[10:24] <albech> esro: googling it seems like lots of other people have similar problems. its like the internal dns's pushed by openvpn arent getting precedence over the dns handed by the dhcp server, thus they are never queried.
[10:25] <ikonia> albech: and I've just given you the most likley reason why
[10:27] <albech> ikonia: im not sure i understand what you mean
[10:27] <ikonia> albech: in 16.04 dns was governed by libresolve and resolverlib (think that's the right name for the resolver api library)
[10:27] <ikonia> albech: so it picked up changes externally eg: openvpn adding/removing domains/servers
[10:28] <ikonia> albech: in 18.04 it's governed by systemd
[10:28] <ikonia> the concept is the same but some setup changes maybe required
[10:28] <ikonia> again, depending on your personal setup
[10:30] <albech> ikonia: when on the vpn i simply wish to use the dns pushed by the openvpn server and nothing else.
[10:31] <ikonia> albech: yeah, I get that, it doesn't change what I said though
[10:31] <albech> they are applied according to 'systemd-resolve --status', but not queried
[10:39] <IniGit> hi
[10:40] <IniGit> when you use raid 1 and loose a drive, can you still use the other drive normally without inserting a new drive to rebuild the raid 1? Or in other words can you just unplug a drive from raid 1 and use it without raid normally?
[10:40] <IniGit> Or do you need to rebuild the raid 1 by inserting a new drive in order to use that data on the remaining drive?
[10:42] <gigirock> IniGit: we don't understand from which point are you starting , have you actually a raid 1 configuration ?
[10:42] <blackflow> IniGit: normally you would rebuild it, but it can continue working with only one disk, in a "degraded" state, yes. That's the whole point of it.
[10:43] <IniGit> gigirock: I do currently have no raid 1. I want to research it, so that I know what it does and wheter I want to use it or not
[10:43] <gigirock> IniGit: "research" ?
[10:44] <IniGit> blackflow: Does it mean I can just stop the raid and use both drives as normal?
[10:44] <IniGit> gigirock: yes or learn whatever you want to call it :D
[10:44] <ikonia> albech: so you actually see them as available, can you manually query them ?
[10:45] <ikonia> IniGit: you never use "the drive" you use the meta device the two drives presents, if that device has 1 disk or 2 doesn't matter
[10:45] <blackflow> IniGit: yes and no. you can continue using just one drive but it will continue to be one drive in a degraded 2-way mirror. mdadm will be loaded, raid detected, degraded state detected.
[10:45] <blackflow> and yes, assuming what ikonia just said, you're always using the md device on the mount side of things.
[10:46] <blackflow> *that you're always...
[10:47] <gigirock> IniGit: at the end look at boot partition, and sequence
[10:47] <IniGit> blackflow: So there is something stored on the HDD that indicates it is a raid drive? Why can you not just stop the raid and the raid is basically gone and you have a normal hdd until you specify that you want a raid again?
[10:47] <ikonia> IniGit: you can do that - but no-one would as it would be dumb
[10:48] <blackflow> IniGit: with mdadm and raid 1 I think what you say would be technically possible, if the metadata was cleared. unlike hardware raid, mdadm has no proprietary format for block storage, only superblocks.
[10:49] <IniGit> degaded state basically means nothing but "hey I want to rebuild"? or are there other implciations too?
[10:49] <blackflow> but I wouldn't know how to do it, and wouldn't want to. if you want to convert to single disk, then just copy off to a proper non-raid single disk.
[10:50] <blackflow> (btw what I said above about clearing metadata only, applies to raid 1. other levels are interleaving parity, or there's striping)
[10:50] <ikonia> IniGit: it means just that, you are meant to have X, you have Y - be aware
[10:51] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:51] <IniGit> blackflow: I'm not sure if I understand correctly. Does that mean a hardware raid stores data in a way that is only useable with such a raid controller in normal or degraded state and you cannot use it without that raid controller? Sry I have really not much knowledge about that topic
[10:51] <englosh> hello. I'm trying to install LLVM 7 on Ubuntu 14.04. I'm trying the commands from https://apt.llvm.org from the Install (stable branch) section but then the "apt-get" doesn't work
[10:51] <englosh> wget works
[10:51] <blackflow> IniGit: exactly. that's why hw raid is, among other things, bad.
[10:52] <ikonia> englosh: 14.04 is EOL
[10:52] <englosh> EOL?
[10:52] <BluesKaj> !eol
[10:52] <IniGit> blackflow: You said it is propietary too, which makes it then even more bad
[10:52] <englosh> oh so I need to upgrade? to what? 16.04?
[10:52] <BluesKaj> at least
[10:53] <blackflow> IniGit: by that I mostly meant "specific to that controller vendor, model and even version/year of production   in some cases"
[10:53] <englosh> but actually on the LLVM page it also says something about 14.04 in the Ubuntu section but the "deb" command doesn't work
[10:53] <gigirock> englosh: jump to 18.xx
[10:53] <blackflow> s/xx/04/
[10:53] <englosh> deb http://apt.llvm.org/trusty/ llvm-toolchain-trusty main deb-src http://apt.llvm.org/trusty/ llvm-toolchain-trusty main
[10:53] <ikonia> englosh: logic says you'd go for the most current stable release with the lifecycle duration you want
[10:53] <ikonia> englosh: yes ?
[10:54] <englosh> yes but the "deb" doesnt work. Is it not supported on 14.04?
[10:54] <ikonia> englosh: deb is fine
[10:54] <ikonia> that's just a text file
[10:54] <IniGit> blackflow: thanks, I will learn more about software and hardware raids
[10:54] <ikonia> it's not a comamand
[10:54] <gigirock> IniGit: in this case pratice is more simple than theory
[10:55] <blackflow> IniGit: yeah, jump into it, with mdadm, forget HW raid, and keep good backups.
[10:57] <IniGit> blackflow: hardware raid is that software that comes from the motherboard maufacturer, right?
[10:58] <IniGit> like AM4 RAID Driver: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X470-GAMING-PLUS#down-driver&Win10%2064
[10:58] <IniGit> ?
[10:59] <blackflow> IniGit: it's usually a controller separate to the MB. MB "hardware" raid is also known as "fakeraid" or "bios raid", requires a special kernel module in linux. btw, this is slightly getting offtopic for #ubuntu. there's #hardware with more knowledgeable people, or #ubuntu-discuss if you wanna talk about it in context of what ubuntu does.
[11:00] <IniGit> blackflow: ok, thank you
[11:07] <englosh> when it says "deb" or "deb-src" in front of some links. What am I supposed to do with them?
[11:08] <englosh> I want to install something
[11:10] <ikonia> englosh: they are lines in a config file
[11:18] <englosh> Is it possible to install .sig files on Ubuntu 14.04?
[11:18] <ikonia> what's a .sig file ? you mean an encyption signature ?
[11:19] <englosh> I want to install LLVM 7 and there are these .sig files here: http://releases.llvm.org/download.html#7.0.1
[11:19] <englosh> "pre built binaries"
[11:19] <ikonia> they are source files
[11:19] <ikonia> why not just use their official repo
[11:20] <ikonia> they build the packages for you in package manager tooling, why not use it ? you seem aware of it ?
[11:20] <englosh> I can do "sudo apt-get install llvm" but that installs me 3.8
[11:20] <englosh> way too old
[11:20] <ikonia> right, because you've not configured their repo
[11:21] <englosh> where is that repo? is it here? https://apt.llvm.org/
[11:21] <ikonia> their repo offers 7, and the 8 and 9 (which I assume is development)
[11:21] <ikonia> englosh: yes
[11:21] <ikonia> englosh: it's on that page,
[11:21] <englosh> yea and there are these deb and deb-src things and I don't know what to do with that
[11:21] <englosh> what config file should I put it in?
[11:22] <englosh> when I should put it somewhere
[11:23] <englosh> ok will try putting it in sources.list
[11:23] <ikonia> ok, so is the question you are asking "I don't know how to configure a 3rd party repo, can you please help me"
[11:23] <ikonia> wait
[11:23] <ikonia> don't do anything
[11:24] <ikonia> do you understand how to manage the software repos with 3rd parties
[11:26] <englosh> oh I already added it but "sudo apt-get update" doesnt do anything
[11:26] <englosh> not really, no
[11:26] <ikonia> ok - so, in future, you'll get a lot better help if you just ask the question you actually need, the meta questions doesn't really help
[11:26] <ikonia> englosh: are you on 14.04 ?
[11:27] <englosh> yes but I mean on LLVM it states support for 14.04
[11:27] <ikonia> englosh: ok - so two things, I'd strongly suggest you get off that and move to 18.04 for example a.) the ubuntu support will exist b.) it's a simpler process to setup their repo, as the notes on their page say tht 14.04 will need additional PPA's as well as their own
[11:28] <englosh> ok will do that then
[11:28] <ikonia> also the version of llvm in 18.04 maybe good enough for you anyway
[11:28] <ikonia> which means you need to do nothing
[11:36] <leslin> quit
[11:46] <timahvo1> am having issues printing to a Ricoh Aficio MP2000 from 16.04. No matter what print driver I use the prints come out faint/faded like it's in ink saving mode. All other functions like double-sided printing work fine. Same printer prints just fine connected to a windows box. Can anyone help with this ?
[11:47] <englosh> iknoia: LLVM 6.0 is probably fine, thanks
[11:48] <askfm2> i got problem with resolution , its 640x480, i can't add or change it ..
[11:48] <askfm2> it was work and this happen idk why
[11:49] <blackflow> timahvo1: did you adjust the printer settings? there shuold/could be an option just for that, there was for my samsung
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: are your graphics drivers installed correctly?
[11:59] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, yes , it was working successful
[11:59] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, how can i check btw ?
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: sudo lshw -C video or software&updates last tab additional drivers
[12:01] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, yes its there
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: wich ubuntu version is this please?
[12:02] <askfm2> product: GT218 [GeForce 210] , vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[12:02] <askfm2> 18.04.1 LTS
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: and your driver version?
[12:03] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, how can i check
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: software&sources tab drivers
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: maybe pastebin sudo lshw -C video to the channel too please4
[12:05] <askfm2> 1 sec
[12:07] <timahvo1> blackflow: I haven't changed any settings on the printer as it prints fine when printing from other machines. Only problem seems to be with the 16.04 box
[12:07] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/ZKFjpeqb
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: seems like your card is unclaimed, so somethings wrong with your driver
[12:07] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, so what i have to do?
[12:07] <blackflow> timahvo1: then change the settings. there should be a drop down that defines ink/toner density or whatsitcalled
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: can you see wich drivers show in: ubuntu-drivers list?
[12:08] <blackflow> timahvo1: the fact that it prints "fine" from other machines is not contradicting the existence of such an option, it only means that driver _defaults_ on other machines are somehow different.
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> blackflow timahvo1 could it be due 17.04+ have driverless printing and xenial not perhaps?
[12:09] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, lshw right ?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: no, ubuntu-drivers list
[12:09] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: timahvo1: I don't know, haven't used a printer in years. I do know the printer settings dialog has such an option, for several printers I had before I stopped using them. accessible from cups settings (web)page if not from the print dialog.
[12:10] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, empty
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: ok, thats weird mate
[12:10] <Adrienne> I love when on my body cum, find me here - http://gmy.su/:45ny
[12:10] <timahvo1> blackflow: ok thanks will give it a shot
[12:10] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, :/ so what i have to do now ?
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: software&updates drivers section show no drivers for you either?
[12:12] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: btw, driverless printing only means there's one, generic cups driver? do modern printers, using such api, still have the settings page?
[12:12] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, no drive
[12:12] <askfm2> driver*
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | askfm2
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: allright, tnx for checking try to add the ubuntu graphics ppa and install a driver
[12:14] <talx> anyone here have experience with nagios ?
[12:14] <talx> I can't monitor an ubuntu machine no matter what i do it seems
[12:14] <ikonia> talx: more people in #nagios will have
[12:14] <ikonia> loads of people use it with ubuntu, I've certainly done it in the past, although not currently
[12:15] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, okay thanks , i'll install the driver
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: from gnome you can add a printer and consult the printer settings indeed
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: did you update your system correctly too?
[12:17] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, i just install it before 2 hour :)
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: install yes, but did you also update to latest?
[12:17] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: ah good to know, thanks.
[12:17] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, nope
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> askfm2: before adding the ppa, i would first update system
[12:18] <askfm2> lotuspsychje, okay
[12:18] <talx> ikonia
[12:19] <talx> no one is active there
[12:19] <talx> :(
[12:19] <ikonia> talx: hang around
[12:19] <ikonia> people will be
[12:27] <El_Giorgios> Hi, what 's the channel of Ubuntu in french ?
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> !fr | El_Giorgios
[12:39] <root343> hi
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> welcome root343
[12:39] <macsys> Is force installing the devel version upgrade of ubuntu worth doing or should i be patient (ugh) and wait for release?
[12:39] <root343> i got a problem with my pc
[12:40] <macsys> hi root
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> macsys: do you mean 19.04?
[12:40] <root343> its a linux mint machine
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !mint | root343
[12:40] <root343> yes i think
[12:41] <root343> its 19.1 cinnamon
[12:41] <ikonia> root343: it's not supported here (to clarify)
[12:42] <root343> so were can i go?
[12:42] <ikonia> root343: read the link ubottu just posted in the channel
[12:42] <macsys>  $linxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org is the best mint help irc
[12:42] <root343> thank you :-)
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> macsys: wich version to wich version do you want to upgrade please?
[12:44] <renn0xtk9> I am using minicom without sudo but when I wan to save the settigns it want to save it in /etc/minicom/ how to make it save in myhome directory?
[12:45] <ikonia> renn0xtk9: does minicom support user specific config files ?
[12:45] <ikonia> renn0xtk9: looks like you can pass a config as an argument
[12:46] <ikonia> so just start it pointing at the file you want, so that when it saves it saves to the place you just passed in
[12:46] <ikonia> renn0xtk9: actually, maybe not, the wording on the man page is not %100 great, it's configuration options, not a configuration file
[12:47] <ikonia> renn0xtk9: ok - yes, one of the arguments is the configuration file
[12:47] <ikonia> renn0xtk9: so it does support it
[12:47] <macsys> lotuspsychje: i have the 18.04 LTS but devel versions 18.10 is avail
[12:47] <ikonia> macsys: do you want / need anything out of 18.10 ?
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> macsys: 18.10 is out of development and ready to use as non-lts
[12:48] <macsys> need no, want yes
[12:49] <macsys> mostly toolchain upgrades
[12:49] <ikonia> macsys: what do you want from 18.10 that's not in 18.04 ?
[12:49] <ikonia> macsys: 18.10 is very short lived, so it would be a bad development platform if toolchain updates are what you are looking for
[12:49] <ikonia> it's a staging ground for the next LTS release
[12:51] <ikonia> (that was terrible wording)
[12:51] <friendlyguy> hi there! i have issues on a ubuntu 16.04.5 lts
[12:51] <Bernardita> I love when on my body cum, find me here - http://gmy.su/:45ny
[12:52] <friendlyguy> maybe someone can help me with this problem: /boot ran out of disk space
[12:52] <ikonia> friendlyguy: what's stopping you clean up
[12:52] <friendlyguy> i am running autoremove right now
[12:52] <ikonia> please don't say you've not got enough space to remove packages
[12:52] <friendlyguy> but i think it crashes
[12:52] <friendlyguy> yup...
[12:53] <ikonia> friendlyguy: you "think" it crashes, it either does or it doesn't
[12:53] <friendlyguy> it does
[12:53] <ikonia> friendlyguy: what does it error with
[12:53] <friendlyguy> no space left on device
[12:53] <ikonia> friendlyguy: how big is boot ?
[12:54] <friendlyguy> 243M
[12:54] <ikonia> really ???
[12:54] <friendlyguy> yup
[12:54] <ikonia> that's very small
[12:54] <ikonia> (unless you know how to manage space)
[12:55] <ikonia> friendlyguy: I assume all the space is taken up with kernels ?
[12:55] <EriC^> friendlyguy: manually remove the initramfs of unused kernels then run autoremove again, you should be good
[12:55] <friendlyguy> yes
[12:55] <EriC^> friendlyguy: you'll need "uname -r" to get the current kernel, and "ls -l /boot" and "rm /boot/initrd....."
[12:56] <friendlyguy> okay, so i delete everything i dont use currently right?
[12:56] <EriC^> i think you'll need to delete 1 or 2 initrd and that should do it for autoremove to work
[12:58] <friendlyguy> okay, this machine is on 4.4.0-124, so i am going to delete every initrd with a version lower than that
[12:58] <Fantti> Hi all! I have a weird problem. I am running Ubuntu Mate 16.04 on an old laptop: I usually use it with keyboard and evertyhing works fine, but when I plug the USB keyboard off, the laptops own keyboard doesn't work in correct way. E.g. when I try to log in with the laptops keyboard, it never works, but when I plug in the USB keyboard, I always get the password correct. Could this be a simple preference setup or some bug?
[12:59] <EriC^> friendlyguy: ok, might want to run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade after autoremove finishes, the current kernel is 141
[13:01] <friendlyguy> how much free space do i need?
[13:01] <EriC^> 30mb i'd guess
[13:02] <friendlyguy> removed 4 older initrds, gave me like 36M free
[13:02] <friendlyguy> okay
[13:02] <friendlyguy> then, lets give it a try
[13:04] <friendlyguy> damn, i again have "no space left on device"
[13:04] <friendlyguy> and it again installed the old kernels
[13:05] <friendlyguy> so the initrd.img-... files i just removed are back again
[13:09] <friendlyguy> i could provide the term.log from apt
[13:10] <friendlyguy> but... parts are in german
[13:13] <friendlyguy> https://pastebin.com/VKHhnCPm
[13:13] <friendlyguy> i translated most parts into english
[13:14] <friendlyguy> uname -a give: 4.4.0-134-generic
[13:15] <friendlyguy> (i wrote 124 by mistake earlier, but i didnt touch 134 on disk!)
[13:16] <friendlyguy> thats the content on /boot right now: https://pastebin.com/THeDCSan
[13:16] <englosh> Does somebody know how to I install LLVM 6.0.1 on Ubuntu 18.04?
[13:17] <englosh> On https://apt.llvm.org there's 7 and 8 but not 6. I think I could use "deb http://apt.llvm.org/trusty/ llvm-toolchain-trusty-6 main" but that would install 6.0, not 6.0.1
[13:19] <friendlyguy> can i resolv this situation without repartitioning the disk?
[13:20] <friendlyguy> (power-down vm, add more disk space, boot gparted-live, move partition, increse size of boot partition?)
[13:21] <englosh> ikonia: unfortunately 6.0.0 isn't enough. There's a regression in this version and I will need 6.0.1
[13:26] <hggdh> englosh: you should already have llvm v6.0.1 on 18.04. "dpkg -l llvm\*"  should list you both llvm v6 and llvlv7. llvm6.0 is actually v6.0.1
[13:27] <englosh> but llvm-config returns 6.0.0
[13:28] <ikonia> englosh: right, so you need to use the later version
[13:28] <ikonia> hggdh: is 7 in 18.04 ?
[13:28] <hggdh> englosh:oh, I am sorry, I read the version string wrong. You are correct
[13:28] <ikonia> englosh: so you need to use the repo you pointed me at earlier on
[13:28] <ikonia> but this time - you're on a good "base" ubuntu version to actually use it
[13:29] <hggdh> ikonia: not officially. Only cosmic onward got v7
[13:30] <englosh> yes the repo is https://apt.llvm.org/ but theres no 6.0.1, only 7 and 8. But I believe "deb http://apt.llvm.org/trusty/ llvm-toolchain-trusty-6 main deb-src http://apt.llvm.org/trusty/ llvm-toolchain-trusty-6 main" would still work but this would install 6.0.0, not 6.0.1
[13:32] <ioria> !info clang
[13:32] <ikonia> englosh: they are for trusty
[13:32] <ikonia> englosh: you're not running trusty anymore
[13:33] <englosh> yes but it was just an example. When I would change the numbers at Bionic to 6, it would also install 6.0.0 instead of 6.0.1 I think
[13:33] <EriC^> friendlyguy: still there?
[13:34] <ikonia> englosh: you need to look at what packages are held within those repos
[13:34] <ikonia> englosh: but if 6.0.1 is not in there, and it's not in the ubuntu repos, I'm not sure what you expect the solution to be
[13:34] <englosh> last time you said I should not add it to sources.list. should I do it now?
[13:35] <ikonia> englosh: I would suggest putting it in a file called exterma-lvm.list in /etc/sources/sources.d (check that path)
[13:35] <ikonia> that way it's kept out of the main config file for the core repos
[13:36] <englosh> hmm it's empty when I open it with nano. Doesn't seem to exist
[13:36] <ikonia> right, you're making a new file
[13:36] <ikonia> just for this repo
[13:36] <hggdh> ikonia, englosh: I did look at the dist directory on the llvm.org deb, and it seems to carry 6.0.1 (presented as 6.0_6.0.1)
[13:36] <ikonia> (is the directory path right ? I'm working from memory)
[13:36] <ikonia> hggdh: perfect, thank you
[13:37] <hggdh> ikonia:/etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[13:37] <ikonia> hggdh: even better, thank you
[13:37] <ikonia> you're on fire
[13:37] <hggdh> :-)
[13:40] <Rumen> Hello
[13:40] <englosh> ok /etc/sources/sources.d contains "deb http://apt.llvm.org/bionic/ llvm-toolchain-bionic-6 main deb-src http://apt.llvm.org/bionic/ llvm-toolchain-bionic-6 main" now but "sudo apt update" doesn't do anything
[13:41] <ikonia> englosh: what do you expect it to do ?
[13:41] <dnsuser> re
[13:41] <englosh> to install lllvm 6.0.1
[13:41] <dnsuser> ку
[13:41] <dnsuser> русские есть7
[13:41] <ikonia> !ru  dnsuser
[13:41] <ikonia> !ru  |dnsuser
[13:41] <Rumen> I would like to ask how can I check which program freeze my computer? Started at once after update. What I did so far: I completely removed Nvidia, but that did not helped at all. I changed Kernel. Same problem. Removed couple of programs, but that did not helped at all too.
[13:42] <ikonia> englosh: apt-get update won't do anything to do with an install
[13:42] <ikonia> englosh: you'll find the package name will also most likley be different from a 3rd party repo
[13:43] <Rumen> Sometimes freeze at login (even before login)
[13:43] <Rumen> Sometimes 102-3 minutes after that
[13:43] <Rumen> eeee mean 1-2-3 minutes sorry
[13:43] <englosh> ikonia: do you mean I should install llvm again now with apt-get? I'm trying that but nothing changes
[13:44] <englosh> previously when it was just in sources.list, something happened when I did sudo apt update
[13:44] <ikonia> englosh: I suggest you remove the old version
[13:44] <ikonia> englosh: search fo llvm - see the different package names now that you have a new repo, then install the right package
[13:49] <qwebirc91610> Hello, I am having a sound issue. Seems to me that there is a permissions issue for pulseaudio and pavucontrol cant connect with it.
[13:50] <CyberGhost78> qwebirc91610, have you checked for a solution in the forum/community board?
[13:50] <englosh> ikonia: I uninstalled all the LLVM packages and reinstalled llvm6.0 and llvm. It's still 6.0.0
[13:50] <englosh> where do I see these? I don't understand
[13:50] <englosh> the new package names
[13:50] <qwebirc91610> CyberGhost78, yes I did, most of them said to give permission through sudo chown , however that didnt fix it
[13:50] <CyberGhost78> ahh ok
[13:51] <englosh> do you mean "sudo apt-get install llvm-toolchain-bionic-6"? that doesn't work
[13:51] <friendlyguy> EriC^: yes i am. but i started the process to expand the disk
[13:51] <friendlyguy> takes a while
[13:52] <qwebirc91610> I have no sound and even i3blocks doesn't display the Volume meter, i can run pulseaudio with sudo pulseaudio --start and sudo pavucontrol will open pavucontrol, however, there still will be no sound.
[13:52] <friendlyguy> my root is on a lvm. so i first need to extend, move, shrink, before i can increase the size of the /boot partition
[13:53] <qwebirc91610> I have suspision it could be something with changing the root? I have dual-boot with windows, so I had to change the partition of my root. It did work yesterday, but not anymore.
[13:54] <CyberGhost78> that could be it qwebirc91610
[13:55] <qwebirc91610> CyberGhost78 i am on linux only a few days, so a noobie, any ideas how to try to locate whether thats the issue?
[13:55] <CyberGhost78> nope thats beyond me
[13:56] <CyberGhost78> i would back up everything and do a reinstall and make sure you do the partitions right next time
[13:56] <CyberGhost78> reinstall windows then linux'
[13:56] <CyberGhost78> but first try to find a solution online
[13:56] <CyberGhost78> there's bound to be an answer
[13:57] <CyberGhost78> i'm impatient so if i can't find a solution in a few days then i just start over
[13:57] <qwebirc91610> having no sound is quite.. annoying :D
[13:57] <CyberGhost78> yes i bet
[13:58] <CyberGhost78> have you tried ALSA for sound?
[13:58] <Sven_vB> I'm trying to read the last 4 MB of a large block device with a shell command. tail --bytes=4M doesn't produce data within 10 sec, so I assume it reads from the start and discards instead of seeking. I could use dd but then I'd have to calculate offsets. is there something that seeks and is similarly easy as tail?
[13:59] <CyberGhost78> you could also try uninstalling the pulse audio drivers then reinstalling them again qwebirc91610
[14:00] <qwebirc91610> CyberGhost78 i already try to forcereload alsa but that gives a permission issue again
[14:00] <CyberGhost78> oic ok qwebirc91610
[14:00] <qwebirc91610> and reinstalled pulseaudio and pavucontrol a few times already
[14:00] <coz_> qwebirc91610, just got here, sound has suddenly stopped? installed anything new?
[14:01] <qwebirc91610> coz_ hey, i installed ubuntu for my first time yesterday, dual-boot with windows. i had to transfer my root to another partition and today the sound doesn't work
[14:01] <qwebirc91610> it seems to be some permission issue
[14:02] <qwebirc91610> i  found that people use sudo chown ...  but it still doesnt give permissions, for some reason
[14:02] <coz_> qwebirc91610, mmm, why the transfer?
[14:02] <qwebirc91610> the root was located in a 30gb partition :D
[14:02] <coz_> qwebirc91610, what was the chown exact command?
[14:03] <qwebirc91610> sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME/
[14:04] <coz_> qwebirc91610,  so  sudo chown -R username  /username/home?
[14:04] <coz_> yes?^^
[14:04] <qwebirc91610> coz_ username:username /home/username
[14:05] <coz_> ok
[14:05] <qwebirc91610> coz_, i saw this as a solution in many places for the exact problem I have
[14:05] <coz_> holdd on let me check something
[14:05] <qwebirc91610> which is that when doing pulseaudio -v it spits out '[pulseaudio] core-util.c: Home directory not accessible: Permission denied'
[14:08] <coz_> qwebirc91610, I assume you read this?   https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2312993
[14:08] <coz_> older thread though
[14:09] <qwebirc91610> coz_, i will take a look. the moving directory as an issue, i only thought of when I came here :D rubber duckin
[14:09] <coz_> ")
[14:12] <qwebirc91610> coz_, drwxrwxrwx 1 root root       8192 jan 27 14:45  username , after doing ls -l /home, that seems incorrect right?
[14:13] <coz_> qwebirc91610, let me check to be sure, don't want to mislead
[14:15] <coz_> qwebirc91610, mm seems at first glance ok, but although you have already tried, another few googles might help,  first search string, maybe,     drwxrwxrwx 1 root roo
[14:16] <coz_> root
[14:16] <coz_> drwxrwxrwx 1 root root
[14:16] <coz_> qwebirc91610, in all honesty, I have not run into this issue, not that that is an excuse
[14:17] <Sven_vB> it seems bionic doesn't have lde (linux disk editor) anymore. what's the modern replacement?
[14:18] <Sven_vB> something to view/edit/export disk blocks hex editor style, and also view them as inodes if applicable
[14:20] <coz_> Sven_vB,  have you looked here   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_hex_editors    and here   https://www.sleuthkit.org/   nt sure if these will help
[14:21] <Sven_vB> coz_, thanks, I'll check
[14:22] <coz_> Sven_vB, those 2 where just a quick google search, I am confident there are many more suggestions
[14:23] <Sven_vB> coz_, yeah, I thought usual hex editors would only deal with files, but the list tells me it's not that unusual.
[14:23] <coz_> Sven_vB,  right, good search strings will help if no one here has a quick answer
[14:24] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: sudo chown -R USERNAME: /home/USERNAME; sudo chmod 755 /home/USERNAME
[14:25]  * Sven_vB 's disappointed that emacs either lacks the features or isn't properly documented in the wikipedia table.
[14:26] <coz_> Sven_vB, join #emacs   someone there nay have a better idea or perhaps a solution with emacs itself
[14:27] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: pulseaudio daemon expects your home directory to be owned by your user, it won't start otherwise.
[14:27] <qwebirc91610> dmnur, i think the chmod 755 didnt do anything
[14:27] <qwebirc91610> how can i check?
[14:28] <coz_> Sven_vB,  sorry that channel seems to unavailable
[14:28] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: ls -ld /home/USERNAME
[14:28] <dbha01aza> Hi, I would have 10 years support for 16.04 LTS and 18.04 LTS, is it true?
[14:28] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: permissions should be drwxr-xr-x
[14:29] <dbha01aza> Mark said about it
[14:29] <qwebirc91610> dmnur, still this "drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8192 jan 27 14:45 /home/juris"
[14:30] <coz_> Sven_vB, sorry that channel is indeed active
[14:31] <Sven_vB> coz_, no prob, it was half a joke anyway.
[14:31] <Sven_vB> just trying to provoke emacs enthusiasts to update the table. :)
[14:31] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: show `mount` command output (use paste.ubuntu.com).
[14:32] <qwebirc91610> dmnur, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S2p5gX2Z6B/
[14:33] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: do you use some NTFS partition as your home directory?
[14:33] <qwebirc91610> dmnur, idk if u saw, but yesterday i had to change the root directtory to another partition
[14:33] <qwebirc91610> dmnur yes
[14:34] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: well, chown and chmod won't work on NTFS; for /home you should use a native Linux filesystem.
[14:35] <qwebirc91610> dmnur, i see, so basicly i should make a new partition with linux filesystem and transfer there?
[14:36] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: yes, or if your root partition (/) is big enough - just copy there.
[14:36] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: but for that you would need to unmount /home first, then remount it to some other directory (e.g. /mnt).
[14:37] <qwebirc91610> dmnur, thats what i did yesterday, but i guess i was on a extX system, the partition was just too small :D
[14:38] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: how exactly small?
[14:38] <qwebirc91610> dmnur, 30G
[14:39] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: that's pretty enough for root partition. So, you have your big NTFS partition and want to use it for storage?
[14:39] <qwebirc91610> dmnur, yes
[14:40] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: you can mount it to e.g. /mnt/stuff and then create symlinks: /home/USERNAME/Videos -> /mnt/stuff/Videos etc.
[14:41] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: or just one symlink: /home/USERNAME/stuff -> /mnt/stuff
[14:41] <qwebirc91610> dmnur, so I should go back to the original partition, and create this symlink so i can access the files from the root partition
[14:43] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: your /home will be on your ext4 partition that's mounted to /, but your data will be at /mnt/stuff, and in your home directory you will have a symlink to /mnt/stuff.
[14:43] <qwebirc91610> dmnur, sounds good, i will attempt :D
[14:44] <qwebirc91610> dmnur, possibly any known guides for this?
[14:46] <dmnur> qwebirc91610: not really, found this though: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[14:52] <jinks_> hello
[15:11] <lesssiel> Hello! I'm sorry, but I speak a little English. My new notebook is Endless OS, but I need Debian. The command (uname -m): x86_64. Install debian-9.7.0-i386-netinst.iso or debian-9.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso or other?
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> lesssiel: we can only support ubuntu and their flavors here, sorry
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> lesssiel: /join #debian
[15:12] <blackflow> lesssiel: the amd64-netinst iso   and also what lotuspsychje said.
[15:16] <ghostnik11> i am having problems with audio working on my t100 after a recent install of ubuntu 18.04 budgie and i am on kernel 4.15
[15:17] <ghostnik11> i have put the correct folder in ucm and the problem is the asound.state file keeps getting written wrong and commands like pulseaudio -k and -D don't work, it says i don't have permission even when i use sudo
[15:21] <ghostnik11> here is a pastebin of aplay = https://paste.ee/p/tDpdW
[15:26] <liuyuhang> .
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: system up to date?
[15:27] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, yeah, i will do that again just to double check
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: you could try pavucontrol too as a test perhaps
[15:29] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, tried it and it comes up sometimes while other times it doesn't
[15:31] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, , just did an apt-get update and comes back normal with no errors
[15:31] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, should i try to restart it with pulseaudio -k
[15:34] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, https://paste.ee/p/hcKqO that was result of a force command
[15:42] <TheScoop> hi, is it possible to reach PPAs over IPv6 directly?
[15:47] <drakonan> ok so if i want to start minecraft on start up in this ubuntu container what is the best way
[15:48] <drakonan> i've been using screen so far... but its a manual process when the server reboots
[15:48] <compdoc> what does a minecraft server do? host players? or just your game?
[15:50] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, so when i run alsamixer it shows card but the chip section is blank
[15:51] <drakonan> compdoc, both im not sure i understand?
[15:54] <drakonan> i wish there was just an easy way to put an a screen ./sh file in "startup"
[15:54] <drakonan> its already a container so... doesnt need a lot more isolation?
[15:54] <drakonan> doesnt even have sudo installed
[15:55] <drakonan> well i take it back... but it's running as root i didnt have to enable it either
[15:57] <blackflow> drakonan: write a proper systemd service unit file for it? do you need screen? can it be daemonized?
[15:58] <drakonan> i dont think so... theres no a lot of info on it... then again i haven't had to really access the console directly (have used nohup before) but you cant let it run in the background itll just close out
[15:59] <blackflow> drakonan: you can run it in foreground as a systemd service of Type=simple. I'm guessing, not sure what other obstacles there would be for doing so.
[15:59] <blackflow> (asked about daemonization because it would mean it's designed to be run as a daemon -- I have never run minecraft)
[16:00] <drakonan> blackflow, what makes it more confusing is this is the "new" version it's not the well known documented "java" version that is incompatible with the bedrock "phone" version
[16:00] <drakonan> but it works fine if i put it in screen and detach in the container
[16:01] <drakonan> was reading on this but its the java version, but i guess could prob do something similar with this one maybe... https://teilgedanken.de/Blog/post/setting-up-a-minecraft-server-using-systemd/
[16:01] <drakonan> then again that is a lot of extra isolation for an already dedicated container?
[16:03] <drakonan> can you have a systemd service without needing to set up users in root?
[16:03] <blackflow> drakonan: yes of course.
[16:04] <drakonan> the container is already set up as an unpriveliged user on the main box
[16:04] <blackflow> drakonan: what container btw?
[16:04] <drakonan> ubuntu :)
[16:04] <drakonan> 18.04 i believe
[16:05] <blackflow> I mean what containerization technology
[16:05] <drakonan> oh lxc
[16:05] <drakonan> proxmox
[16:05] <blackflow> so you have a full ubuntu installtion in that lxc?
[16:05] <blackflow> (with systemd as pid1?)
[16:06] <drakonan> i... think so? bits taking up about 3gb
[16:06] <drakonan> s/bits/its
[16:06] <tgm4883> That sounds like a no
[16:06] <dspub> exit
[16:07] <dspub> sorry
[16:07] <drakonan> i dont have rc.local so i just assumed it was using systemd? no gui though and its a pretty minimal instal
[16:07] <drakonan> systemctl is there
[16:08] <blackflow> drakonan: well I'm not sure exactly what kind of setup you have there, but my point is you don't need screen. you can set up lxc to exec the java process as the first process, and then you can use systemd on the host side to manage the container service
[16:09] <blackflow> alternatively, you run LXC similarly to a "virtual machine", which behaves like a fully (isolated) OS environment (without the kernel of course), which means you have (systemd) process management inside the lxc
[16:09] <blackflow> then you set up the systemd service unit for minecraft inside the lxc filesystem
[16:09] <drakonan> yeah i think that is how its set up... since the host i think is based off of debian but this is an ubuntu os
[16:11] <blackflow> drakonan: what I'd do, I'd remove the complexity of an LXC and run java on the host directly, with a proper systemd service not unlike the one you see in that blog, which adds namespacing and container-like protection/isolation to the service.
[16:12] <drakonan> well the host os is hypervisor so you cant really without frankensteining it add anything in there its proxmox
[16:13] <drakonan> with vm / container commands, so i just added this container as ubuntu and it looks like it has systemd in it i see a lot of services in there i guess i just need to set up a simple systemd service as root
[16:14] <blackflow> drakonan: I see. but then the question is whether you need to run that container in a "VM-like" fashion (start systemd as pid1 inside it, and all the regular OS services etc...), or just force that one java process. depends on many questions on how you want to use it and access it, I suppose.
[16:14] <SaintRapscallion> helllllp, where can i find info on why my rig won't wake from sleep? I've already tried disabling nouveau
[16:15] <drakonan> blackflow, i think i can just treat this ubuntu as a "thin vm"
[16:15] <drakonan> as long as there isn't some kind of kernel incompatibility
[16:16] <drakonan> USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
[16:16] <drakonan> root         1  0.0  0.2  77356  8464 ?        Ss   14:57   0:00 /sbin/init
[16:16] <drakonan> root        43  0.0  0.2  78304 10228 ?        Ss   14:57   0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-journasystemd+
[16:17] <blackflow> drakonan: sure, in whic case set up the systemd service inside the LXC
[16:18] <blackflow> drakonan: doesn't hurt to use all the protections as listed in that blog's service file. security is all about layers.
[16:18] <drakonan> i just didnt want to add a lot of complexity if it was going to be a special purpose container anyway... if i have anything else i want to do in ubuntu will spin off another container
[16:19] <drakonan> like that anyway since you can have separation of concerns and reboot each individually with minimum resource usage
[16:19] <blackflow> drakonan: running a proper systemd service is LESS complexity than running a java program under screen
[16:20] <drakonan> well its not java this is the new version not sure what its based off, its just a binary with an environment command for the working directory
[16:21] <TJ-> drakonan: I only just came in so may be misssing sone context, but have you considered "systemd-nspawn --as-pid2 ..." which puts a simple stub init into the container as PID1 and runs your command as PID2
[16:21] <Zurn> Hello, I've been on here a few times over the weekend trying to configure some basic things on my system.. those things worked for a short period of time but now i have a much bigger problem - my system wont boot up! Takes me directly to the grub screen. I believe it hasnsomething to do with the external harddrive i was trying to configre, and now the system doesnt know how to find the internal HD.
[16:21] <Zurn> the iro
[16:21] <TJ-> Zurn: oops :)
[16:22] <TJ-> Zurn: is the broken PC at the GRUB shell right now?
[16:23] <Zurn> the irony/fear is that i was trying to give permissions to the external hd so i can back up my files before upgrading... so i dont have my files backed up
[16:23] <Zurn> TJ: yes it is
[16:23] <TJ-> Zurn: good. I can talk you through getting it to boot if you can give me accurate feedback on what you see :)
[16:24] <TJ-> Zurn: is the prompt "rescue>" ?
[16:24] <drakonan> TJ-, i think i will need to do some learning before i can fully digest what you have said :)
[16:24] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, guess what the issue is!!! its been looking at the wrong card the whole time!!! unbelievable!!! i spent more than 48 hours on this and to find out that its that. blows my mind. the only problem is the system keeps defaulting to the wrong card. how can i change that
[16:25] <drakonan> TJ-, although that may be something that is already being done in proxmox to make my container?
[16:25] <TJ-> drakonan: :) ... it's a nice way to run a single process in a container and still have child processes correctly reaped (which is one of several requirements of any process that is PID 1)
[16:25] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, the correct card is: bytrt5640 but my system keeps pushing bychtry-5640
[16:26] <Zurn> TJ: The options are ubuntu (low latency), ubuntu, advanced options for ubuntu, and system setup ....i should also mention now that this distro is ubuntu studio 16.04
[16:26] <drakonan> TJ-, oh ok i dont think i have an advanced enough setup sounds like a possibly container compatibility scenario that that would be addressing?
[16:27] <TJ-> Zurn: Oh, you're further in than I expected. If you're seeing the GRUB menu that means all of GRUB worked fine
[16:27] <TJ-> Zurn: So I assume the problem is when you choose a boot entry from the menu it doesn't start, but returns to the GRUB boot menu?
[16:28] <drakonan> oh ok i see basically not using lxc... that is ok im going to i guess try and make the most basic systemd service in the container
[16:29] <RaptorJesus> so since sharing is caring, i believe adding nouveau.modeset=0 to /etc/default/grub fixed my sleep mode problems because I use the nvidia proprietary drivers.
[16:29] <TJ-> drakonan: the --as-pid2 is a nice mid-way between a full OS container with the full init system, and a docker/lxc type container that has not init system. It avoids needing to provide special init plumbing yourself, or having a 'heavyweight' container root-file-system
[16:29] <Zurn> TJ: yep, that's it, either that or it gets stuck on the spinny wheel ubuntu studio screen
[16:30] <ghostnik11> how can i tell my system to select a different card. it keeps selecting bytchr-5640 but needs to choose bytrt-5640
[16:30] <TJ-> Zurn: Oh, so you can even get Linux to start to boot then, if you see the splash-screen spinner. Does the default GRUB entry take you to the splash-screen/spinner?
[16:30] <TJ-> ghostnik11: What is a 'card' in your context?
[16:30] <ghostnik11> TJ-, the sound card on the device
[16:31] <TJ-> ghostnik11: So the system has two sound devices? Or is it the wrong driver being used for a single sound device?
[16:31] <Zurn> TJ: yes, then when it press the power button it goes to emergency mode, and has some lines about /dev/sda2, which is th externl HD Iwas trying to give permissions to
[16:32] <ghostnik11> TJ-, wrong driver being used
[16:33] <Zurn> TJ: it gives me to option to ctl-d to continue, which i hvent dones yet for fear of further messing things up
[16:33] <TJ-> Zurn: Right now are there multiple disk-drives connected then? Because it sounds to me as if you may have a hard-coded path instead of using UUIDs or Labels to refer to the root device
[16:34] <TJ-> Zurn: OK, here's a way to work around that to get it to boot. Get to the GRUB menu, highlight the 'default' entry, press 'e' to edit it. Navigate down to the line starting "linux ..." and at the end add "break=premount" then press Ctrl+X to boot with that change. This will cause Linux to drop to a initialramfs busybox shell where we can figure out the correct root= value
[16:35] <Zurn> TJ: yes, i definitely messed with some uuid related thing yesterday.. i dont hve the external drive connected no, only then internal ones
[16:36] <TJ-> ghostnik11: I cannot see any driver with the name 'bytchr' or variation of that
[16:37] <Zurn> TJ: did that,  stuck on splash screen now
[16:38] <TJ-> Zurn: you can tap the Esc key to hide the splash and see the console, but it should have dropped to the busybox shell almost immediately
[16:39] <Zurn> TJ: its taken me back to emergency mode
[16:39] <TJ-> Zurn: you did Ctrl+X to boot with the change you added ?
[16:40] <TJ-> Zurn: because it would never reach emergency mode if that is done correctly - if it is booting Ubuntu anyhow
[16:42] <TJ-> Zurn: if you've got emergency mode that means the OS found and is using its root file-system, which implies root= is correct
[16:43] <Zurn> TJ: i've tried a few times and it keeps taking me to emergency,
[16:44] <TJ-> Zurn: which Ubuntu release is installed?
[16:45] <Zurn> TJ: should i press ctl-d to continue?… ubuntu studio 16.04
[16:45] <TJ-> Zurn: hold off for now, let's investigate
[16:45] <TJ-> Zurn: let's look for some warnings/errors first: Try "journalctl -b -p warning"
[16:46] <TJ-> Zurn: you will likely see a few but you're looking for indications there are problems with the file-system, or finding files
[16:48] <ghostnik11> TJ-, okay the name of that driver is bytcr-rt5640
[16:48] <TJ-> ghostnik11: I cannot find any mention of that in the Linux kernel source, or as a web-search
[16:49] <Zurn> TJ: the lines in red say "tpm error" and "timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by....."
[16:49] <TJ-> ghostnik11: aha, found it: snd-soc-sst-bytcr-rt5640
[16:50] <ghostnik11> TJ-, yeah that thiing is telling my system to use bytcr-rt5640
[16:50] <TJ-> Zurn: right, the timed out is the clue I think. My guess is there is some entry in /etc/fstab that points to the removed disk
[16:50] <Zurn> TJ: yes that sounds exactly right
[16:50] <TJ-> Zurn: do "cat /etc/fstab" see if you can asociate the dev-disk-by... with a mountpoint
[16:51] <Zurn> TJ: is there something i have to type to allow me to enter commands agajn?
[16:52] <Zurn> TJ: just have the blinking cursor now.... i could also restart
[16:52] <TJ-> ghostnik11: found the module name eventually, it's snd-soc-sst-bytcr-rt5640
[16:53] <TJ-> Zurn: if you're still looking at the journalctl output, it's feeding through the system pager 'less' so 'q' (quit) should return you to the shell
[16:55] <TJ-> ghostnik11: I do not see any other modules with a similar name as you mentioned earlier "the correct card is: bytrt5640 but my system keeps pushing bychtry-5640"
[16:56] <ghostnik11> TJ-, then how come the asound.state file works with bytrt5640 and not bytchr5640
[16:57] <ghostnik11> TJ-, when i run alsactl restore, it undone what i did to change the asound.state file to use bytrt5640
[16:57] <Zurn> TJ: right yes.... so it has some lines about my harddrives... looks like it thinks the files system is on /dev/sda2 (external hd) and knows the boot is on sda1
[16:57] <Deihmos> does ubuntu have built in backup and restore
[16:57] <ghostnik11> TJ-, here it says it here: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86581
[16:58] <ghostnik11> TJ-, brian loften says that t100_B.state is what is correct for asus t100taf
[16:58] <TJ-> Zurn: what is the device-name for the currently booted file-system. Do "mount | grep ' / '  "
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> !backup | Deihmos
[16:58] <IniGit> hi
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> welcome IniGit how can we help you?
[16:59] <IniGit> can I ask a mdadm questions here?
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> IniGit: if its ubuntu related sure
[16:59] <IniGit> lotuspsychje: Not specificly Ubuntu related more genericly Linux I guess
[17:00] <IniGit> I have a question about the superblocks
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> IniGit: try ##linux then mate
[17:00] <IniGit> lotuspsychje: ok thx
[17:01] <Zurn> TJ: "/dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat..."? that's the only line that says boot in it
[17:05] <TJ-> Zurn: that's just the UEFI system partition. you need to identify what the current root file-system is, which the command I gave should report
[17:06] <TJ-> ghostnik11: right, digging further I see there are two 5640 modules: snd-soc-rt5640  and snd-soc-sst-bytcr-rt5640
[17:07] <Zurn> TJ: "/dev/sda2 on / type ext 4"
[17:07] <Zurn> TJ: sorry i didnt space out those apostrophes properly
[17:08] <Zurn> TJ: (when i typed in the initial command)
[17:08] <ghostnik11> TJ-, yeah how can i force my system to use snd-soc-rt5640
[17:10] <TJ-> ghostnik11: unload the incorrect driver and load the correct one ("sudo modprobe -r <module-to-unload>" and "sudo modprobe <module-to-load>" ) -- if that proves it works then you set a blacklist to prevent the wrong module being loaded
[17:11] <TJ-> Zurn: OK, so /dev/sda2 is correct since it has been mounted, so there is some other entry in /etc/fstab that cannot be foun#
[17:12] <ghostnik11> TJ-, and that module would be snd-soc-rt5640
[17:12] <Zurn> TJ: just to be clear, /dev/sda2 is my external HD that's not plugged in
[17:13] <TJ-> Zurn: no, it is not. That file-system is currently mounted according to the results of the 'mount' command
[17:13] <TJ-> Zurn: 'sda' is the first discovered SCSI device at boot time
[17:16] <Zurn> TJ: oh right... maybe the external hd was called /dev/sdb1 and i'm just remembering it wrong...anyways moving on..
[17:17] <TJ-> Zurn: When the OS starts, systemd reads /etc/fstab and for all entries not marked "noauto" it mounts them. The error you reported earlier "timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by..." tells us that an entry there cannot be found so the system drops to the emergency shell. So did you add anything to /etc/fstab ?
[17:19] <drakonan> ok so im trying to set up my first systemd service...  and apparently to stop the server i need to send the command stop via the "console" that the server creates ie inside the interactive "service console" surely there's a better way to ask that question but is that supported / douable without having to "kill" the process?
[17:20] <Zurn> TJ: ya i definitely messed with /etc/fstab yesterday...with guidance of someone in this IRC... i think might have commented out a line
[17:21] <ghostnik11> TJ-, i found it using find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) | grep snd
[17:21] <TJ-> Zurn: to fix the issue you've got to identify the incorrect entry and at the minimum add  'noauto' to the 'options' column (which usually has 'defaults')
[17:22] <TJ-> Zurn: are you able to photograph the /etc/fstab and upload that, if you're unable to spot the bad entry?
[17:23] <ghostnik11> TJ-, but now can i just copy entire line for the bytrt5640
[17:23] <TJ-> !paste | Zurn
[17:28] <Zurn> TJ: http://imgur.com/HNjQO9N
[17:29] <ioria> TJ-, Zurn   I helped him  yesterday night to mount r/w an hfs external partition; he had a line not coherent with blkid and i made him to comment it  (the last one); fstab :   https://termbin.com/3skn   blkid : https://termbin.com/z9lu  ; but now i see it not commented anymore
[17:31] <ioria> Zurn, why ?
[17:31] <Zurn_> TJ: sorry i accidentally left the chat... is that the right screen?
[17:31] <ghostnik11> TJ-, okay i actually don't see the module for bytrt5640, where did you see it
[17:33] <TJ-> ioria: thank-you! Zurn_ that explains it, you've got a line referencing /media/zurn/spacecase which needs "noauto," prefixing to the list of mount options ("rw,uid=1000,...")
[17:33] <ioria> Zurn_,    I made you comment that line ....  but now i see it's not commented anymore
[17:33] <TJ-> ghostnik11: I have you the module names earlier
[17:33] <Zurn_> ioria: hi ioria....i'm not sure, i may have further messed with things when i tried turn off journaling from my old mac (that was the las thing i did).... unfortunately the fix we did yesterday withthe external hd only last ten min or so
[17:33] <G3ph4z> can anyone help me with sed?
[17:33] <TJ-> ghostnik11: from earlier: there are two 5640 modules: snd-soc-rt5640  and snd-soc-sst-bytcr-rt5640
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> ask your question to the channel G3ph4z so volunteers can read
[17:34] <G3ph4z> You're right. so I have this part in my script: sed -i "s/v_a_l_a_m_i/$CERTIFICATE/g" tesztfile
[17:34] <G3ph4z> and I get this error: sed: -e expression #1, char 42: unterminated `s' command
[17:34] <Zurn_> ;TJ: okay... how do I edit that line?
[17:35] <ioria> Zurn_,   1) why did you comment out that line ?  2) you left and i had to time to explain that ubuntu automount external device; so you probably re-plug the drive but forgot to mount under /mnt/mymac
[17:35] <TJ-> G3ph4z: presumeably "echo $CERTIFICATE" has / characters in, so replace / in your sed command with commas , as in: "sed -i "s,v_a_l_a_m_i,$CERTIFICATE,g" tesztfile"
[17:36] <ioria> Zurn_,   first we fix the boot; then we try to chown the automount point : can you boot in recovery mode ?
[17:36] <Zurn_> TJ: I'm still here btw... that was justthe old me that?
[17:36] <ghostnik11> TJ-, yeah but i didn't see that module when i ran the earlier comand,i see the snd-soc-sst-bytcr-rt5640
[17:36] <TJ-> Zurn_: check the root file-system is read-write mode first with " mount | grep ' / ' " and ensure you see 'rw'
[17:37] <G3ph4z> TJ-, Thanks, but it doesn't work, I still got this error: sed: -e expression #1, char 42: unterminated `s' command
[17:37] <Zurn_> TJ: i'm still here btw... that was the old me that just quit
[17:37] <G3ph4z> The $CERTIFICATE supposed to be an CA certificate.
[17:37] <TJ-> ghostnik11: maybe it's a recent addition to the kernel; I'm using 5.0-rc2. What kernel version are you working with ("uname -r")
[17:37] <TJ-> Zurn_: I know; I aimed a message at you above
[17:37] <TJ-> ioria: thank-you! Zurn_ that explains it, you've got a line referencing /media/zurn/spacecase which needs "noauto," prefixing to the list of mount options ("rw,uid=1000,...")
[17:37] <EoflaOE> Me too TJ-. We both use 5.0-rc2
[17:38] <ghostnik11> TJ-, nope never mind i found it. it is: /lib/modules/4.15.0-43-generic/kernel/sound/soc/codecs/snd-soc-rt5640.ko
[17:38] <ioria> Zurn_,   you need to edit /etc/fstab again ;  can you boot in recovery mode ?
[17:39] <TJ-> ghostnik11: which is what I said :D
[17:39] <Zurn_> ioria: sorry, i'm on a tablet and its very messy.... yes i'll try that
[17:39] <TJ-> ioria: we're in emergency mode so can edit it
[17:39] <B_RAD> hey #ubuntu - maybe more of a noob linux question than something ubuntu specific, but if i'm seeing an entry in /etc/fstab, but the same isn't listed by mount, it's safe to assume that that file system is not mounted?
[17:39] <ghostnik11> TJ-, okay so now i need to run the other command to kill the current module being use
[17:40] <Zurn_> TJ: yes it says rw
[17:40] <ioria> Zurn_,   TJ- ok,   so add 'noauto' or comment that last line
[17:40] <TJ-> Zurn_: if the system is in 'rw' mode you can do "sed -i 's/\(.*spacecase.*\)/#\1/' /etc/fstab  "
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> B_RAD: pastebin your fstab to the channel please, volunteers can take a look for you
[17:40] <TJ-> Zurn_: this command will comment out the line so on reboot the system should not stall
[17:40] <B_RAD> i likely can't. on a pentest right now
[17:40] <B_RAD> i can paste something like it. :)
[17:41] <B_RAD> gimme a sec- i'll redact some stuff.
[17:41] <ghostnik11> TJ-, will this command work sudo modprobe -r /lib/modules/4.15.0-43-generic/kernel/sound/soc/intel/boards/snd-soc-sst-bytcr-rt5640.ko to remove it
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> B_RAD: we can only support vanilla ubuntu here
[17:41] <B_RAD> this is vanilla ubuntu as far as I can tell
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> B_RAD: are you entering your existing ubuntu system with the pentest ?
[17:42] <B_RAD> i don't follow the wording of that.
[17:42] <TJ-> ghostnik11: no, as I said earlier you just give the module name
[17:42] <B_RAD> I have a shell on a Ubuntu host. My personal box is Kali
[17:43] <TJ-> ghostnik11: "snd-soc-rt5640"  "snd-soc-sst-bytcr-rt5640"
[17:43] <Zurn_> TJ: okay did that,should i restart now?
[17:43] <ghostnik11> TJ-, oh i thought it was harder than that
[17:43] <TJ-> ghostnik11: :D
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> B_RAD: allright
[17:44] <TJ-> B_RAD: no it's not safe, it may be mount is using mtab. Safest is to "cat /proc/mounts" AND hope you're not inside a namespace that hides mounts
[17:44] <B_RAD> anyway ~ fstab entry in question is as follows: /dev/sdb5 /var/log/logdir1       ext2       user,noauto,rw,exec,suid,user_xattr        0       2
[17:44] <TJ-> B_RAD: but also ensure /proc/mounts hasn't had something over-mounted on it to fool you
[17:44] <ghostnik11> TJ-, now its telling me when i try to remove it module no found
[17:45] <TJ-> ghostnik11: that means that module isn't loaded. Did you do "lsmod | grep 5640" to check?
[17:45] <TJ-> Zurn_: yes, try a reboot
[17:46] <Zurn_> TJ: is there a command line i should enter,or just hold down the button?
[17:46] <B_RAD> hmm. not seeing it in /proc/mounts either
[17:46] <TJ-> Zurn_: you may not need to reboot, let me check
[17:47] <B_RAD> must not be mounted then?
[17:47] <B_RAD> df -aT doesnt list it either
[17:47] <ghostnik11> TJ-, https://paste.ee/p/evbeX
[17:48] <TJ-> Zurn_: no need to reboot. If you've edited /etc/fstab (check it is now correct with "cat /etc/fstab") then you can do "systemctl daemon-reload" and it should get on with things
[17:50] <Zurn_> TJ: yep, the line is commented now... tho that reload command didnt do anything
[17:50] <TJ-> ghostnik11: so the *sst-* module depends on 'snd-soc-rt5640' so you cannot unload 'snd-soc-rt5640' without first unloading 'snd_soc_sst_bytcr_rt5640' first. So your presumption you use one or the other is incorrect, one depends on the other
[17:50] <TJ-> Zurn_: it did. Press Ctrl+D or type "exit" and it /should/ complete boot :)
[17:50] <TJ-> Zurn_: 'daemon-reload' reran the system generators, one of which reads /etc/fstab
[17:51] <ghostnik11> TJ-, ah,this little device. why is it so hard to get the sound working normally
[17:52] <ghostnik11> TJ-, the thing is, the sound has always worked by me just doing the adjustment with the asound.state file, so i don't get why this isn't functioning all of a suden in 18.04
[17:52] <Zurn_> TJ: BINGO! ya looks like we're all good here now...so in future i wont mess with /etc/fstab...i think i might just buy a new external hd that isnt formatted to mac
[17:53] <Zurn_> TJ: thanks a lot
[17:53] <Zurn_> ioria: thanks for helping again!
[17:53] <B_RAD> TJ-: from all angles that I can tell with this user, it isn't mounted
[17:53] <TJ-> Zurn_: you can refer back to what ioria recommended so it works correctly, using 'noauto'
[17:54] <TJ-> Zurn_: The current entry though seems wrong in setting the path to /media/zurn/.... - that path is used by udisks which auto-mounts devices when they're connected
[17:54] <Zurn_> TJ: you mean to the spacecase line in /etc/fstab? do i add noauto to the end of the line?
[17:55] <TJ-> Zurn_: and udisks does not need any fstab eentry
[17:55] <TJ-> Zurn_: I think ioria knows what you're trying to achieve better than I, and as I have to go for a while, best to chat to ioria
[17:55] <ioria> Zurn_,  please, plug the external drive  and paste 'mount'
[17:56] <ghostnik11> TJ-, can't i just tell the system to use the asound.state file
[17:56] <ghostnik11> TJ-, and to only use it, without overwriting it
[17:56] <Zurn_> ioria: okay, just gonna leave the chat and enter again on my computer
[17:57] <B_RAD> hmm. is it weird that mount is a SUID binary but when I attempt to mount anything I get 'mount: only root can do that'?
[17:57] <ioria> Zurn_,  take your time
[17:58] <Zurn> ioria: so yu asked to turn on the external hd and type 'mount'?
[17:58] <ioria> Zurn_, plug the drive and   run    mount | nc termbin.com 9999  , yes
[17:59] <Zurn> ioria: https://termbin.com/pjdu
[17:59] <courrier> Why can't we find the list of packages of some old versions here? https://packages.ubuntu.com/ e.g. Vivid is not there
[17:59] <ioria> Zurn_, ls -l /media/zurn/spacecase  | nc termbin.com 9999  , yes
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> vivid is end of life courrier
[18:00] <Zurn> ioria: I likely messed things up further when I tried following these directions after it stopped working again: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[18:00] <courrier> I know lotuspsychje, but isn't there any trace of the packages?
[18:00] <Zurn> ioria: I get: ls: cannot open directory '/media/zurn/spacecase': Permission denied
[18:01] <ioria> Zurn_, sudo ls -l  /media/zurn/spacecase  | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> courrier: what exactly are you trying to do?
[18:02] <Zurn> ioria: https://termbin.com/wu52p
[18:02] <courrier> lotuspsychje: I'm looking for the latest version of Ubuntu providing package libpanel-applet-4-0 in order to help fixing a memory leak
[18:02] <courrier> lotuspsychje: see https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-applets/issues/345#issuecomment-457935386
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> courrier: and where comes vivid in this story?
[18:04] <ioria> Zurn_,    touch  /media/zurn/spacecase/mynewfile  should tell you permission denied or read-only fs
[18:05] <Zurn> ioria: ya, it says permission denied
[18:05] <ioria> Zurn_,    sudo touch  /media/zurn/spacecase/mynewfile
[18:05] <courrier> lotuspsychje: libpanel-applet-4-0 is within trusty, but no more in xenial, so i'm just looking for the last version that provided this package, it might be vivid or another one, but none is listed
[18:06] <Zurn> iorira: it says 'read only file system'
[18:06] <drakonan> well ive almost got this crap working but may be having a delimiter issue in the systemd service file
[18:06] <ioria> Zurn_,   ok,  sudo umount /media/zurn/spacecase
[18:06] <drakonan> it works by hand by when i add it to the file the same command line isn't working
[18:06] <drakonan> im using ` and ' though
[18:07] <drakonan> Is that an issue?
[18:07] <drakonan> Well let me just stick them in a script and see if that helps
[18:07] <Zurn> ioria: the solution we had yesterday only worked through nautilus...and it crashed..... could it be that this simply won't work with this computer (without some advanced configuration)?
[18:08] <ioria> Zurn_,   did you   sudo umount /media/zurn/spacecase ?
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> !info libpanel-applet3 | courrier can this also help?
[18:08] <Zurn> ioria: yepo
[18:08] <Zurn> ioria: I mean... yep
[18:09] <ioria> Zurn_,   check 'mount' to be sure (lookat bottom)
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> !info libmate-panel-applet-4-1 | courrier
[18:10] <Zurn> ioria: yep, I don't see anything that suggests "spacecase" or "sdb1"
[18:10] <courrier> lotuspsychje: yeah, but compiling requires package libmate-panel-applet-4-0, while recent Ubuntu versions such as bionic provide libmate-panel-applet-4-1
[18:10] <ioria> Zurn_,   /mnt/mymac still exists ?
[18:10] <courrier> Although the applet works on modern versions, 4-0 is required for the debbugging symbols
[18:11] <Zurn> ioria: yes it does
[18:11] <ioria> Zurn, sudo mount -o force  /dev/sdb2 /mnt/mymac      and paste again   mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> courrier: but the 18.04 version is 4-1, is 18.04 the system you trying to fix?
[18:12] <Zurn> ioria: https://termbin.com/2mp7
[18:13] <ioria> Zurn, good , now is read-write : ls -l /mnt/mymac   ?
[18:13] <courrier> lotuspsychje: yes, but manual compiling requires 4-0, so this is strange
[18:13] <Zurn> ioria: that gives me 'permission denied'
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> courrier: we dont really support own compiled packages, also its not reccomended to use lower package versions
[18:14] <ioria> Zurn, sudo ls -l /mnt/mymac
[18:14] <Zurn> ioria: okay, looks like it mounted it, it's showing the HD contents
[18:15] <ioria> Zurn, sudo ls -l /mnt/mymac  | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> courrier: also git issues, its best to discuss with the maintainer of the git
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> courrier: normally if you find a bug in the official ubuntu/packages its reccomend to file a !bug here
[18:15] <courrier> lotuspsychje: I'm not using it. There's a memory leak in some 18.04 applet, and we're trying to compile it so that we can valgrind it
[18:16] <Zurn> ioria: https://termbin.com/ugvd
[18:16] <courrier> But compiling requires 4-0
[18:16] <courrier> Hence my question
[18:17] <ioria> Zurn, can you wtite to it ?
[18:17] <ioria> *write
[18:19] <G3ph4z> Ah, I am literally stucked. I have one certificate in string variable and I have to replace in other file a word into that certificate.
[18:21] <Zurn> ioria: no, it says I don't have permission
[18:21] <Zurn> ioria: destination is read only
[18:23] <ioria> Zurn,    mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:23] <Zurn> ioria: https://termbin.com/wbtv
[18:24] <Deihmos> what does -y at end of a command mean? can't find it anywhere
[18:24] <ioria> Zurn,   well, mount tells  is  'read-write ' (rw);   sudo umount /mnt/mymac
[18:25] <ioria> Zurn,   you need to umount it
[18:25] <Zurn> ioria: yep did that
[18:26] <ioria> Zurn,   sudo fsck.hfsplus -f /dev/sdb2
[18:28] <Zurn> ioria: says the volume was repaired successfully
[18:28] <ioria> Zurn, sudo mount -o force  /dev/sdb2 /mnt/mymac
[18:29] <Zurn> ioria: yep did that
[18:29] <ioria> Zurn, sudo ls -l /mnt/mymac  | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:29] <Zurn> https://termbin.com/hs8f
[18:30] <ioria> Zurn, try to create a file
[18:31] <ghostnik11> TJ-, can i try to uninstall pulseaudio and then reinstall it
[18:31] <Zurn> ioria: yes, it lets me create files and folders just not copy them onto it
[18:32] <ioria> Zurn, you mean you cannot copy a file from your home to /mnt/mymac ?
[18:33] <ghostnik11> TJ-, okay you won't believe this so i just clicked on the sound. and all of a sudden i have audio and can test front right and front left but still have muted symbol and no sound comes when i try to play something from the browser using youtbe
[18:33] <Zurn> ioria: no, it says "destination is read only"
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: fixed now?
[18:34] <ghostnik11> TJ-, lotuspsychje: i don't know whats going on. b/c all of a sudden now even a regular sound file works but the symbol is still muted in
[18:34] <ghostnik11> TJ-, lotuspsychje how can i use a log to follow this b/c i feel like i am going crazy
[18:35] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, i will paste a imagebin
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: tail -f /var/log/syslog while you fool around with sound
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: how come you got 2 soundcards in your system?
[18:35] <ioria> Zurn, are you coping the file from terminal or with a filemanager ?
[18:36] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, could it be b/c i have opened all at the same time, alsamixer, pavucontrol and sound from regular system
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: no, sound must just work
[18:37] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, we just spent more than 48 hours you, and TJ- plus others who are probably resting. and we couldn't get it. its not just by luck!! i want to know what happened b/c i think this is just a fluke right now. i am scared to shutdown and reboot b/c i think it wont work
[18:38] <Zurn> ioria: i'm using the GUI
[18:39] <ioria> Zurn, from terminal :   touch  ~/anotherfile    and   cp  ~/anotherfile  /mnt/mymac
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: why do you have 2 soundcards in system?
[18:40] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, i don't know!! i feel like i have lost so much sleep trying to fix this thing and now i can't make what to get from it suddenly working even though it shows its not functioning
[18:40] <Zurn> ioria: yes it worked!
[18:40] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, also the log that you told me to run doesn't show anything but nautilus logs
[18:40] <Zurn> ioria: so I just have to use terminal for this... that's okay, I need practice with it anyways
[18:40] <ioria> Zurn, ok, so the problem is the GUI; do you have gksu installed ?
[18:41] <Zurn> ioria: not sure about gksu
[18:41] <ioria> !info gksu
[18:41] <ioria> !info gksu xenial
[18:41] <ioria> Zurn, sudo apt install gksu
[18:42] <Zurn> ioria: okay did that
[18:42] <ioria> Zurn, gksu nautilus
[18:42] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, okay so i need to find a way to at least to keep it this way since its working and also, how can i eliminate one of the sound cards
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: check your bios
[18:44] <Zurn> ioria: yep did that (a reminder that I'm in ubuntu studio 16.04 which doesn't use nautilus)
[18:44] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, okay so yall believe me, look at the image. in top right it shows the sound symbol crossed out but sound is playing as we speak
[18:44] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, https://imagebin.ca/v/4UyxsFQc5DQ5
[18:45] <ioria> Zurn, so now you are using nautilus as superuser, then pay attention at what you do; try to copy a file from your home to /mnt/mymac
[18:45] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, also the bios won't show anything, remember this a 2 in 1 tablet/pc
[18:45] <Zurn> ioria: yes this works, I can copy a file in the nautilus gui from my home to /mnt/mymac
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: is that a lenovo?
[18:47] <ioria> Zurn, you can see that the procedure is a bit complicated by now; 1) automount not working when you plugin the device 2) you need to umount it 3) you need to remount with -o force option in a new mountpoint (/mnt/mymac) 4) you need to use nautilus as superuser
[18:48] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, i wish!! its asus t100taf its old and has a baytrail cpu. the problem is because for reasons unknown to us they tied a 32 bit efi to a 32 bit 64 os so problems come up b/c of that when you install a better os like linux onto a windows 2 in 1 tablet/pc
[18:48] <ioria> Zurn, can you remember all of that ?
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: crossed symbol? i hope you dont mean close hexchat X ?
[18:49] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, no, the symbol between the bluetooth symbole and battery indicator
[18:49] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, its slashed out with one line
[18:49] <Zurn> I think I can, I'll keep a record of everything
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> ah yeah i see it
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: anything happens when you click it?
[18:49] <ioria> Zurn, ok
[18:50] <Zurn> ioria: you enter nautilus as super user by typing "gksu nautilus"?
[18:50] <ioria> Zurn, yes, but you can also run simply  gksu and enter 'nautilus' in the box
[18:50] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, when i click it i get a volume gage which i have increased but before that did nothing and sound would not work but now, all of a sudden i have sound
[18:51] <ioria> Zurn, the last is probably better
[18:51] <Zurn> ioria: okay... and the mount line I use is: sudo mount -o force  /dev/sdb2 /mnt/mymac
[18:51] <ioria> Zurn, yes
[18:52] <ioria> Zurn, but the first is the most important  sudo umount /media/zurn/spacecase
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: maybe its because one of the sound cards is disabled now? check your sound properties?
[18:52] <Zurn> ioria: yes, so first run the umount line, then the mount line, the gksu
[18:53] <ioria> Zurn, yep
[18:53] <Zurn> ioria: gottit, thanks a million
[18:53] <Zurn> ioria: now to fix the d-bus jack problem... but first must run some errands :)
[18:54] <ioria> Zurn, your welcm
[18:55] <Zurn> ioria: actually, one more question... I remember now that it crashed when I tried to empty the external HD trash bin
[18:55] <Zurn> ioria: how can I empty the trash?
[18:55] <ioria> Zurn, no idea, try to access it from terminal
[18:55] <Zurn> ioria: okay, I'll look into how to do that...
[18:59] <zezuz_> @search wonder palacio
[19:09] <IniGit> "dd: error writing '/dev/sdg': No space left on device. It's fine, `dd` just doesn't know where's the end of the device, so it stops when it can't write more. huh, so all these `/dev/zero`s went to RAM, then `dd` printed that no space left, and *only then* the kernel actually started dropping the caches". How do I stop dd writing to RAM?
[19:09] <IniGit> ctrl+c does not work
[19:15] <tomreyn> IniGit: what's the command you ran?
[19:15] <wolfheart__>  /msg nickserv ghost rainbowwarrior
[19:16] <bmx10> hi
[19:16] <IniGit> tomreyn: sudo dd bs=1M status=progress if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[19:16] <IniGit> sry I used urandom
[19:17] <tomreyn> IniGit: your udev managed, RAM-backed, tmpfs at /dev has likely run full
[19:17] <IniGit> Somebody told me it will stop when RAM is full and another post on stackoverflow says it will write forever to that drive until stopped
[19:17] <tomreyn> ls -la /dev/sdX
[19:18] <IniGit> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33360920/dd-command-error-writing-no-space-left-on-device
[19:18] <IniGit> that is the post I found on stackoverflow about the topic
[19:19] <IniGit> you mean run that ls command?
[19:19] <tomreyn> yes, does it show a block special device or a large file?
[19:19] <IniGit> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 112 Jän 27 20:09 /dev/sdh
[19:20] <tomreyn> so it actually wroite to the device, good.
[19:21] <tomreyn> if the target had been a symlink (such as dmsetup would create in /dev/mapper ) you'd have ended up with a large file replacing the symlink
[19:23] <tomreyn> use dd with oflag=sync to write directly to the target
[19:23] <IniGit> ok
[19:28] <alexgr> hi! how do I type characters from alternative keyboard layouts after switching to that layout?
[19:29] <alexgr> using 18.04
[19:29] <tomreyn> by shortly pressing, then releasing the button
[19:30] <alexgr> haha
[19:30] <alexgr> no, I mean it
[19:30] <alexgr> "Show Keyboard Layout" shows me each key has 2 characters associated to it, how do I type the secondary?
[19:31] <tomreyn> there will be some modifier involved, usually shift
[19:31] <alexgr> yeah, that's what I thought, I just can't find it
[19:33] <tomreyn> if you'll describe which keyboard model you have and which layouts you mapped to them then someone may be able to provide a meaningful response.
[19:33] <tomreyn> s/them/it/
[19:34] <alexgr> I'm sure there is a more general answer to my question
[19:35] <quesker> why is there a /boot/grub/menu.lst?  this is grub2 right?  18.04.1 LTS
[19:36] <quesker> why does grub-mkconfig -v say unrecognized option -v then goes on to say  -v, --version           print the version
[19:37] <quesker> (it works fine on other linux)
[19:39] <OerHeks> quesker, there is no standard /boot/grub/menu.lst, so tell us what you did on what linux version?
[19:39] <blackflow> quesker: because it's a bug, it should be -V, --version  in the help listing
[19:40] <OerHeks> !grub
[19:40] <blackflow> (it says one thing in the help listing, but actually parses of -V  (uppercase))
[19:40] <OerHeks> line 3 No /boot/grub/menu.lst. It has been replaced by /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[19:41] <quesker> I downloaded 18.04.1 LTS and installed it and typed cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:41] <quesker> an example line from that file:   title     Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, kernel 4.15.0-43-generic
[19:42] <quesker> I am just curious how ubuntu breaks things like that
[19:43] <OerHeks> we are curious about your install too, as /boot/grub/menu.lst is long time gone
[19:43] <texla> ubuntu 18.04.1..Can a program package be moved to a home folder
[19:44] <quesker> I downloaded from the ubuntu website ubuntu-18.04.1.0-live-server-amd64.iso
[19:44] <quesker> and installed from that
[19:44] <drakonan> Anyone know what is different inside a.sh that would make this not work? /usr/bin/screen -S minecraft -X stuff stop`echo -ne '\015'`
[19:45] <murphey> test
[19:45] <SlidingHorn> drakonan: "not work" doesn't really tell us anything
[19:46] <blackflow> drakonan: I'm still confused why you're forcing screen when you can have a regular, cleaner and simpler systemd service instead.
[19:46] <drakonan> SlidingHorn, i'm trying to send the command "stop<enter>" to a screen session to cause it to quit, it works from command line, but this commandline doesn't work from a .sh script, it works fine from command line
[19:46] <drakonan> i wish i knew more
[19:46] <iomari> greetings, I can't seem to find any information on how to setup 2 access points. Home and office.
[19:46] <iomari> using netplan
[19:46] <drakonan> im trying to put it in a script so i can put it in a systemd script
[19:47] <drakonan> it doesn't work directly from the systemd service file so i thought maybe if i could get it to work in a script i could reference there... but i suppose the same issue is present inside the script
[19:48] <drakonan> not sure what is different from command line to .sh
[19:48] <drakonan> probably for security sake its maybe a good idea not to have the middle place like that... but trying to break the problem up in to tinier problems to understand why it works over command line and not inside the script file
[19:49] <drakonan> blackflow, thats what im trying to do im making it a systemd service
[19:49] <blackflow> drakonan: if you used that line literally, I don't think it would work, system unit is not a shell interpreter and you seem to have `` (backticks) expansion
[19:49] <blackflow> so yea, you can put that line in a script, make it executable and thenreference that script in the systemd service unit
[19:50] <blackflow> (though that line looks supsicious to me, you sure it's correct?)
[19:50] <drakonan> blackflow, yes its working to start it... but the stop script isn't working... but its reference the script which isnt working itself... however if i cat the file and copy the command it works perfectly
[19:51] <murphey> I am having an issue using Ubuntu Mate 18.10 I have a tablet computer and have a script set up to change the screen orientation based on the accelerometer. when the screen orientation changes the bottom of the background cuts off and there is terrible screen ghosting/tearing when I drag windows. I made a black background and turned off the compositor for now and it isn't noticable but I'd rather have a proper
[19:51] <murphey> setup than this terrible hack/workaround.
[19:51] <drakonan> the reason why i need screen right now is i dont know how else to send to.. i guess... stdin stop<enter>
[19:52] <blackflow> drakonan: does it respond to sigterm? most programs do
[19:52] <drakonan> it does but idk if thats safe
[19:53] <drakonan> if i type stop<enter> it says quit correctly
[19:53] <blackflow> drakonan: if it responds to sigTERM then it is designed to. otherwise nothing woulod happen. note that's not sigKILL that instructs the kernel to headshot the process
[19:53] <drakonan> which again works fine command line... but the backtick expansion stuff maybe a problem in the script
[19:54] <blackflow> you can't script typing "stop" and enter like that, that's interactive and similar to something like echo "stop" | <programname>     as it's via STDIN
[19:55] <drakonan> that is what is nice about screen i can
[19:55] <blackflow> and this looks extremely convoluted. I'm willing to bet it's way simpler than that. really check if it shuts down normall when you send it a TERM signal
[19:59] <blackflow> drakonan: meanwhile, did you look at that blog post and that program mcrcon, used to send commands to a running minecraft instance? it uses it in the ExecStop command of the systemd unit, to stop the service.
[19:59] <drakonan> blackflow, this isn't the java version of minecraft
[20:00] <drakonan> that requires java... this version works on phones and windows 10
[20:01] <blackflow> drakonan: minecraft is written in java. it's just that newer versions are bundling it so it doesn't look like you need it? am I wrong?
[20:01] <drakonan> no there are at least 2 fully incompatible versions of minecraft
[20:02] <blackflow> drakonan: alright. so then check if it responds to sigTERM
[20:03] <drakonan> thing is... if i do that id have to i guess use nohup on the start
[20:03] <drakonan> screen is nice because if i ever need to get to the console i can
[20:03] <blackflow> no, why?
[20:03] <blackflow> start the minecraft instance, then try to send it sigTERM by PID
[20:03] <drakonan> because you cant load in the background if you use & it dies
[20:04] <blackflow> if it shuts down, then it means it responds to that, and you don't have to hack anything to send a "stop" command
[20:04] <blackflow> you don't have to load it in the background
[20:04] <drakonan> im trying to do it in a script though... so id need to make a script i guess to grep for it?
[20:04] <blackflow> use anotehr terminal to send sigTERM for the running PID
[20:04] <drakonan> systemd script*
[20:04] <blackflow> you do not. if you find it responds to sigTERM, then systemd can easily manage the foreground process via Type=simple
[20:05] <drakonan> i mean if i need to do from terminal that command already works i can just cat the script and run it but...  trying to make it work with systemd
[20:05] <blackflow> sending sigTERM is default systemd behavior
[20:05] <blackflow> (and pretty much any init before it, TERM is tried first and then KILL is sent if the process doesn't respond within preconfigured timeout period)
[20:05] <drakonan> blackflow, but if i start it from screen it'll be referencing the screen pid no?
[20:06] <quesker> weird, this doesn't show -v or -V, but if you build from source it takes -v, but ubuntu takes -V instead.  https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/grub.html#Invoking-grub_002dmkconfig
[20:06] <blackflow> screen is irrelevant. start the minecraft server in foreground. then in anotehr terminal (or anotehr screen view, doesn't matter), run ps and find its PID, then kill -s TERM <thatpid>
[20:07] <blackflow> drakonan: if that works, then you don't need any script or screen or anything, systemd will manage the foreground process and will send sigTERM as service "stop" action
[20:07] <drakonan> Oh ok
[20:07] <drakonan> Just stick type=simple in there?
[20:08] <blackflow> drakonan: that's the default anyway. in this case (if the server responds to sigTERM), you don't need ExecStop, because default is to send the sigTERM to the running foreground process of the service.
[20:09] <blackflow> (otherwise yes,   Type=simple   in the [Service] section)
[20:13] <texla> ubuntu 18.04.1..Can a program package be moved or installed in a home folder
[20:13] <sacarde> hi
[20:14] <sacarde> is possible to boot ubuntu dvd with wayland?
[20:15] <drakonan> blackflow, would that still work if its inside a script?
[20:15] <sacarde> ubuntu 18.04
[20:16] <drakonan> you have to set an environment variable as well when you start it
[20:16] <drakonan> not sure how else to do that
[20:16] <sacarde> as kernel parameter?
[20:16] <drakonan> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./bedrock_server
[20:16] <drakonan> works from command line / script but idk how to do in systemd
[20:17] <drakonan> im just referencin the script in systemd but it doesn't kill the server when i do stop that way
[20:18] <blackflow> drakonan: Environment=  under [Service]   check the systemd.service manpage
[20:18] <TheWild> hello
[20:18] <blackflow> drakonan: there's #systemd here on Freenode, they're better suited for systemd support
[20:19] <TheWild> I have some problem with gedit. I opened a non-UTF8 file and selected wrong encoding. Now every time I reopen the file, gedit doesn't ask - just assumes the encoding I selected previously.
[20:26] <drakonan> blackflow, excellent thank you very much i think that might be it now only thing is i just am worried if the shut down is safe... but
[20:27] <drakonan> i guess if its sending TERM it should be doing it safely?
[20:27] <drakonan> but it is working currently in systemd
[20:27] <blackflow> what do you mean by "safe"? if the program responds then it means it's been designed to respond.
[20:28] <drakonan> blackflow, just mean its flushing any changes back to the world
[20:28] <blackflow> drakonan: test it? ;)
[20:29] <drakonan> im assuming they only have so long to respond hopefully its as long as windows allows should be plenty of time then :)
[20:29] <blackflow> (I meant responds to sigTERM and shutting itself down gracefully)
[20:37] <QuickXX> Hello, Ubuntu newbie here. I wrote a bash script to change my Desktop Image (as an exercise) it works when I start it. But I wanted to add it as a boot script so it always runs when I turn on my computer. I did it with "crontab -e. When I search for it in "top"
[20:37] <QuickXX> it's running
[20:37] <QuickXX> but it doesn't work
[20:37] <Vampier> Hopefully an easy question - I am running 18.04 and I have 2 Sony Sixaxis successfully paired. I am trying to force a disconnect if the controller hasn't been used for about 5 minutes. Would this be possible?
[20:37] <QuickXX> What could be the problem?
[20:38] <Vampier> did you try to add it to .bashrc ?
[20:38] <QuickXX> Vampier: Actually no. Isn't that the same thing as crontab?
[20:39] <Vampier> no... bashrc has all your settings and gets executed at boot
[20:39] <blackflow> no it doesn't
[20:39] <ioria> QuickXX, id use gsettings command in Startup Application
[20:39] <Vampier> I believe as one of the last steps
[20:39] <blackflow> .bashrc is sourced for non-login shells
[20:40] <blackflow> ioria's advice is most sound -- use your DE's autostart facilities
[20:40] <Vampier> sorry blackflow is correct :) ignore me
[20:40] <QuickXX> ioria: I tried that and I couldn't find my script in "top".
[20:40] <ioria> QuickXX, gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri "file:///home/username/path/to/image.jpg"  ...  what is 'top' ?
[20:40] <a__pi> asasasasa
[20:40] <blackflow> what exactly does that script do? does it require a xorg session?
[20:42] <QuickXX> ioria: That's my bash script "gsettings ... " but it's a for loop to go over .jpg files in my Image folder.
[20:42] <ioria> QuickXX, you mean you want randomize the background every boot ?
[20:43] <ikonia> QuickXX: post your script please
[20:43] <ikonia> QuickXX: and paste your crontab entry
[20:43] <ikonia> (use a pastebin please)
[20:43] <QuickXX> blackflow: Sorry I don't know what xorg means. The problem is: It works when I start it, but it doesn't when I add it to crontab.
[20:43] <ioria> QuickXX, sy, i don't get why crontab
[20:43] <aldcor> hi! I am on ubuntu 18.04. Ubuntu wayland uses Intel® Haswell Mobile. Since using it videos have zero screen tearing so its finally how it's suppose to be. But what exatcly that is?
[20:43] <QuickXX> ioria: Top, lists all processes that are currently running.
[20:44] <ioria> QuickXX, i know..... and what ?
[20:44] <QuickXX> ikonia: Ok, just a minute.
[20:45] <QuickXX> ioria: My script is there, so it's running. But nothing changes. And I wonder why.
[20:45] <QuickXX> ioria: But when I start it, in my terminal, it runs ok.
[20:45] <ioria> QuickXX, the script is a 'one shot' , not running in bg as a daemon
[20:46] <QuickXX> ioria: Script is inf while loop. Just a minute, I'll post it.
[20:46] <ggames_28> hi
[20:46] <EriC^^> aldcor: wayland is the new display server, like Xorg but newer/different
[20:47] <ggames_28> so does anyone wanna play games or somethin
[20:47] <ikonia> ggames_28: no
[20:47] <ikonia> ggames_28: not that sort of channel, sorry
[20:47] <aldcor> EriC^^, and what is haswell mobile? Is that driver for nvidia?
[20:47] <Vampier> Hopefully an easy question - I am running 18.04 and I have 2 Sony Sixaxis successfully paired. I am trying to force a disconnect if the controller hasn't been used for about 5 minutes. Would this be possible?
[20:48] <blackflow> EriC^^: wayland is not a display server, but a protocol
[20:48] <EriC^^> QuickXX: crontab doesnt have a lot of the environment variables you usually have in a shell, set them in the script itself maybe
[20:50] <QuickXX> Ok, here it is: https://pastebin.com/ufcPEL7S
[20:51] <EriC^^> aldcor: haswell mobile i'm guessing is the onboard graphics of the pc
[20:51] <ikonia> QuickXX: that's not a great setup to run in cron
[20:52] <ikonia> it could be quite problematic depending on how often you tell cron to run it
[20:52] <EriC^^> aldcor: it's the internal stuff haswell is the generation like skylake etc
[20:52] <QuickXX> Ok, is there another way to run it on boot. When I login in for example.
[20:52] <EriC^^> aldcor: and mobile means it's for the laptops i guess
[20:53] <ioria> QuickXX, if it's an  endless loop, why cron  ?
[20:53] <ikonia> QuickXX: there is a "desktop sessions" tool in gnome
[20:54] <QuickXX> ioria: Because I heard that cron is for running scripts on boot. I guess I got it wrong.
[20:54] <ikonia> QuickXX: that's not what cron is
[20:54] <ioria> QuickXX, ubuntu 18.04 ?
[20:54] <ikonia> QuickXX: and you don't want it on boot
[20:54] <QuickXX> ikonia: I wanted to do it myself, as an exercise.
[20:54] <QuickXX> ioria: Yes, 18.04.
[20:54] <ikonia> QuickXX: I didn't ask why you did it
[20:54] <EriC^^> QuickXX: what line do you have in cron?
[20:55] <ioria> QuickXX, i'd try Startup App
[20:55] <QuickXX> EriC^^: Just this: @reboot /home/vladimir/scripts/ChangeDesktopImage.sh
[20:56] <ikonia> QuickXX: not going to work
[20:56] <ikonia> QuickXX: try the desktop sessions tool
[20:56] <ikonia> QuickXX: then also remove the while less than 2 and just leave it to "while true"
[20:56] <ikonia> so it sits in a constant loop
[20:56] <ioria> QuickXX, at boot, XServer is not loaded yet , so no need to start it at boot
[20:57] <EriC^^> QuickXX: yeah i'd use the desktop session tools, the reason is that that runs even if you don't login, so thinking about it it can't really access your user session to do the change i guess
[20:57] <QuickXX> ikonia: Ok, thank you very much!
[20:57] <QuickXX> ioria: Yeah, I kinda thought the same, but I'm new to all of this so I wanted to ask. Thanks
[20:57] <EriC^^> QuickXX: it might be better to use "$filename" in the script (with the quotes)
[20:58] <albech> omg spent 4+ hours getting my 18.04 to use a DNS pushed by openvpn and its still not working :( dont understand the reason behind the move to systemd and overcomplicating things that were working just fine. frustrating to be dealing with stuff that should just be working and has been for the past 10+ years. there are all kind of suggestions to hacks that should work, but they dont.
[20:59] <ikonia> albech: work the problem, can you manually use the dns servers while connected to the vpn ?
[21:00] <albech> yes i can dig right to them just fine
[21:00] <aldcor> EriC^^,  i have intel and nvidia. So haswell is related to intel?
[21:00] <ikonia> albech: so it has to be traffic routing then,
[21:00] <EriC^^> aldcor: yeah, i believe so
[21:00] <ikonia> albech: what does your routing table look like for the IP range they are on
[21:00] <EriC^^> aldcor: "sudo lshw -c video" should show the cards and drivers loaded
[21:02] <albech> ikona: 172.16.24.0     10.255.4.1      255.255.248.0   UG    50     0        0 tun0
[21:04] <aldcor> it shows both intel and nvidia.. so wayland uses both at the same time?
[21:05] <ikonia> albech: is that route valid ?
[21:06] <albech> ikonia: yes, its valid. exactly the same route/config is working on my 16.04 notebook
[21:08] <ikonia> albech: what's the dns search path/order then
[21:14] <Guest91611> I'm trying to connect to a windows share that allows anonymous file sharing entrance, yet ubuntu is asking me for a username and domain and password, my windows share is not part of a domain but if I don't put any domain info in ubuntu it wonb't let me even try connecting. what do I do?
[21:21] <albech> ikonia: i am seeing some strange behaviour where in can dig at the internal dns for a few sec after i connect to the vpn and then it times out.
[21:25] <Guest91611> anybody there?
[21:26] <IniGit> hi
[21:26] <IniGit> does somebody know why this is not working within /etc/udev/99-hide-disks.rules: ENV{ID_FS_LABEL_ENC}="UserData LUKS"
[21:26] <IniGit> my LABEL of the LUKS container does not change
[21:27] <IniGit> the full entry is ENV{ID_FS_UUID}=="a65026de-9521-468d-876d-87a0d34e4c1a",ENV{UDISKS_IGNORE}="1",ENV{ID_FS_LABEL_ENC}="Test LUKS"
[21:30] <Guest91611> same here no one got left here
[21:30] <Guest91611> I can't use browser on ubuntu 18.04 it crashes on my pentium 3 I heard is cause of the cpu is this a valid reason? I'm using irssi
[21:31] <OerHeks> just be patient, if someone knows an answer, they will reply
[21:34] <Guest91611> does ubuntu mate works on i386 32bit cpus?
[21:34] <Guest91611> I can't use browsers to check
[21:34] <Guest91611> I'm gonna give links2 a try tho
[21:35] <albech> ikonia: seems like its this bug im seeing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/1799262
[21:37] <SlidingHorn> Guest91611: I believe vanilla Ubuntu (desktop) dropped 32-bit support starting with 17.10
[21:38] <ikonia> albech: that suggests to me like your routing is changing after the vpn connects
[21:38] <ikonia> albech: or traffic is routing via the wrong place
[21:39] <Guest91611> SlidingHorn: vanilla flavor?
[21:40] <SlidingHorn> Guest91611: by "vanilla" i mean "plain" Ubuntu - i.e. not Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.
[21:41] <Guest91611> SlidingHorn: ubuntu as plain or with unity de?
[21:41] <Guest91611> SlidingHorn: SlidingHorn u mean official de that ubuntu comes with
[21:42] <ikonia> Guest91611: ubuntu the distro, no different desktop re-spin
[21:43] <Guest91611> doesn't matter I have a networking problem, ubuntu is asking me for a username password and domain for a windows share but windows is set to no asking for password on private networks which is what my wire is connected to
[21:47] <martiansoul> Hi. I installed konversation on Ubuntu 16.04 and encountered this error.  "This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb".  Reinstalling the application may fix this problem. Aborted (core dumped)" M  What should I do?  the strace output is this: https://pastebin.com/0ghsqz2i
[21:47] <IniGit> Is something wrong with that command (I want to change the label of the LUKS container): sudo cryptsetup config /dev/sdi --label=TestLUKS
[21:47] <IniGit> ?
[21:47] <ikonia> IniGit: does it give an error ?
[21:48] <IniGit> ikonia: no, but it also does not change the label
[21:48] <SlidingHorn> Guest91611: Unity is not available in 18.04
[21:48] <ikonia> IniGit: can it change the label while in use
[21:49] <IniGit> ikonia: It is not unlocked
[21:49] <IniGit> ikonia: should I try luksformat with --label ?
[21:49] <ikonia> IniGit: there used to be issues re-labelling in use disks, I don't know cyptsetup often enough to know if that is still true
[21:49] <ikonia> it was quite a while ago
[21:51] <IniGit> ikonia: ok, thx. I will keep trying
[21:51] <martiansoul> Hi. I have a dependency issue I am not able to figure out.
[21:52] <martiansoul> Can someone please help with that?
[21:52] <ikonia> you'll need to give details martiansoul
[21:52] <ikonia> martiansoul: if someone can help and wants to, they will, but they need to see the problem first
[21:52] <SlidingHorn> martiansoul: better to just ask your question with as much detail on one line as possible.  If someone knows the answer, they'll reply
[21:52] <martiansoul>  I installed konversation on Ubuntu 16.04 and encountered this error.  "This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb".  Reinstalling the application may fix this problem. Aborted (core dumped)" M  What should I do?  the strace output is this: https://pastebin.com/0ghsqz2i
[21:52] <ikonia> martiansoul: thats totally different than a dependency problem
[21:53] <ikonia> martiansoul: how did you install konversation
[21:53] <martiansoul> @ikonia. i did sudo apt-get install konversation
[21:53] <ClickTek> Howdy! I was thinking of throwing this on my Galaxy S9+ as I would like to get a little further away from Google. Will I regret this decision/move?
[21:53] <ClickTek> this = lineageos
[21:54] <ikonia> martiansoul: and that package came from the ubuntu 16.04 stable repo
[21:54] <SlidingHorn> ClickTek: this channel is for ubuntu support only.  Try lineageOS's support
[21:55] <martiansoul> ikonia: sorry, i am a relatively naive user. Not sure what you mean by "and that package came from the ubuntu 16.04 stable repo"
[21:55] <Guest91611> ClickTek: I support u
[21:55] <ikonia> martiansoul: you've not added any additional software repos, eg: KDE testing, or PPA's etc
[21:55] <Guest91611> ClickTek: Google knows too much
[21:55] <martiansoul> ikonia: no
[21:55] <ikonia> Guest91611: no, we don't support that in this channel
[21:55] <martiansoul> didn't add anything else.
[21:55] <ikonia> martiansoul: ok - then the package libx11-xcb1 should install the library you want
[21:56] <ikonia> martiansoul: however normally ubuntu packages will pull in dependencies for you, hence my concern that you where using a different repo
[21:56] <martiansoul> ikonia: thanks. i will try it.
[21:56] <ClickTek> My apologies, didn't even mean to ask that in this window. Forgive me.
[21:56] <ikonia> ClickTek: not a problem
[21:57] <martiansoul> ikonia: i need to do sudo apt-get install libx11-xcb1?
[21:57] <ikonia> martiansoul: yes, if you want the library you say you are missing
[21:58] <IniGit> ikonia: ooh --label is only supported at LUKS2
[21:58] <ikonia> IniGit: be nice if it gave a syntax error then !
[21:58] <arpad2> after running sudo nvidia-xconfig the resolution of the display dropped from hd to 960x540. How can I restore the resolution, while also enabling the nvidia optimus card? thanks
[21:58] <martiansoul> ikonia: it says - "libx11-xcb1 is already the newest version (2:1.6.3-1ubuntu2.1)"
[21:58] <ikonia> martiansoul: so then that library is already there
[21:58] <martiansoul> and again running konversation on terminal gives the same error
[21:58] <ikonia> martiansoul: where is the konversation binary
[21:58] <IniGit> ikonia: you mean would be nice?
[21:58] <martiansoul> ikonia: /usr/bin
[21:59] <ikonia> ahh I see it in the output
[21:59] <ikonia> martiansoul: run ldd /usr/bin/konversation and pastebin the output please
[21:59] <ikonia> IniGit: if that option isn't supported, I'd hope for an error saying "invalid option"
[22:00] <martiansoul> ikonia: yes sure. just a minute.
[22:00] <r3v> Is there a way to list all users screen sessions?
[22:00] <ikonia> r3v: screen sessions ?
[22:00] <ikonia> r3v: as in the application "screen" ?
[22:00] <IniGit> ikonia: yeah
[22:00] <r3v> ikonia: Yes.
[22:00] <martiansoul> ikonia: result of ldd command: https://pastebin.com/WR0VycSU
[22:01] <ikonia> r3v: the session details are per user, so you'd need access to their session files
[22:02] <ikonia> martiansoul: so the linker sees the library you think is missing libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007f165ee5a000)
[22:02] <ikonia> martiansoul: run ldd against /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1
[22:02] <ikonia> lets make sure there is not a flaw earlier in the line
[22:02] <ikonia> eg: some random QT lib missing
[22:03] <r3v> Nevermind. I just realized they are stored as files.... sudo ls -1s /run/screen/* does what I need.
[22:03] <martiansoul> ikonia: result of ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1: https://pastebin.com/fGNtu6G8
[22:04] <ikonia> martiansoul: so all there and good
[22:04] <martiansoul> ikonia: i thought running the strace might be helpful. the strace command shows that it looks for QtProject in directories where it is not present.
[22:05] <martiansoul> ikonia: strace output: https://pastebin.com/0ghsqz2i
[22:05] <ikonia> martiansoul: no, you can see it looking in the right place and finding it
[22:06] <ikonia> martiansoul: look at line 509 for example
[22:06] <ikonia> martiansoul: I wonder...
[22:06] <ikonia> one moment, I'll need to see if I have a box with a similar age library set on
[22:07] <martiansoul> ikonia: sure
[22:07] <ikonia> martiansoul: ok - my thought was a read herring
[22:07] <ikonia> martiansoul: red
[22:08] <ikonia> however I'll searching for the documentation for the library I thought maybe out of sync, I stumlbed across this https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17106315/failed-to-load-platform-plugin-xcb-while-launching-qt5-app-on-linux-without
[22:09] <arpad2> after running sudo nvidia-xconfig the resolution of the display dropped from hd to 960x540. How can I restore the resolution, while also enabling the nvidia optimus card? thanks
[22:09] <ikonia> martiansoul: that looks pretty similar to the problem you have, and references the library I thought maybe a problem, however look at all the plugin config data
[22:09] <ikonia> martiansoul: I'm not a regular KDE user, but look at the way the QT environment varibles must be set to the correct paths for the plugins, or it falls back
[22:10] <conr> if i have a 60GB SDD for Ubuntu 18 with a secondary 2TB HDD for media, should i just create a extended partition for the 2TB HDD to mount onto Ubuntu?
[22:10] <ikonia> martiansoul: so the actual library may be there and fine, but when the app tries to parse/reference what the library knows about its missing
[22:10] <martiansoul> ikonia: yes.
[22:10] <ikonia> martiansoul: I'm guessing based on that strace output, the info you've given me and the details in that post though
[22:10] <ikonia> conr: why an extended partition ?
[22:11] <martiansoul> ikonia: i was wondering about line 993 of the strace output.
[22:11] <conr> ikonia: idk cause it's not my active with the OS
[22:11] <ikonia> conr: just use a standard primary
[22:11] <ikonia> martiansoul: lets see
[22:11] <martiansoul> ikonia: I don't even have a directory /usr/local/Qt-5.5.1
[22:12] <martiansoul> ikonia: why is it looking there.
[22:12] <ikonia> martiansoul: I suspect that is a red herring
[22:12] <martiansoul> i was wondering
[22:12] <ikonia> martiansoul: that will just be checking standard search paths
[22:12] <martiansoul> ikonia: okay.
[22:13] <ikonia> martiansoul: you can always mitigate that though, by making it and copying the plugin libraries in there (remember to remove it if it doesn't work)
[22:13] <ikonia> martiansoul: but I'd suspect that is just the default search path
[22:14] <martiansoul> ikonia: okay, so you think that the problem might be something else?
[22:14] <ikonia> martiansoul: at this stage I don't know, I'd need to work it through more, some interesting bits in that strace, but most of it looks normal
[22:15] <martiansoul> ikonia: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17106315/failed-to-load-platform-plugin-xcb-while-launching-qt5-app-on-linux-without
[22:15] <martiansoul> how should i use this?
[22:15] <ikonia> martiansoul: I'd certainly find your qt.conf and look what's in there
[22:15] <martiansoul> ikonia: okay. i'll find that.
[22:15] <ikonia> martiansoul: have a read of it, see how much applies to your system
[22:26] <martiansoul> ikonia: i searched my entire filesystem for qt.conf and found it in these places: https://pastebin.com/7N8XYX14
[22:28] <conr> ikonia: does 10 hours sound like a reasonable time for formatting and erasing a 2TB HDD with the Disks app?
[22:31] <OerHeks> conr, sounds like there are bad sectors
[22:32] <OerHeks> just wait and see the resutl when done
[22:32] <conr> OerHeks: its consistantly 60MB/sec
[22:34] <conr> i thought SATA 3.0 could do 6Gb/sec
[22:35] <blackflow> yeah but not for spinning rust.
[22:35] <OerHeks> you can, raw, so the disk itself it the bottleneck
[22:37] <conr> i don't know what that means
[22:38] <conr> but it's going about 20secs per 0.1% so maybe like 5hrs
[22:39] <blackflow> it means that individual HDDs can't achieve that speed. 150-200MB/s is most you can get for sequential write per HDD, and only at the beginning. as it writes toward inner parts of the disk, the speed is significantly reduced
[22:40] <conr> you're right now it's doing 54MB/sec
[22:41] <Zabot> What would cause audio feedback at bootup? I'm running 14.04, when I boot the webcam microphone is heard through the speakers and the speakers don't work, but as soon as I alsa force reload it goes away.
[23:06] <mattricks> hey is there a way i can automatically change vars in a bash script based on user input (like press 0 to exit) without explicitly asking for user input?
[23:11] <Zabot> mattricks: You could background whatever processes you wanted to run and then prompt for user input in the foreground
[23:17] <GBGames> I'm using 18.04. I used GNOME tweaks with the Workspace grid  extension to change the workspace layout to be 1 row by 4 columns, instead of the default 1 column by 4 rows. In the last day or so I noticed that despite not restarting, something turns off the extension. I haven't found any clues yet. Any ideas?
[23:25] <penni> Hi! Is there a php IRC support channel?
[23:26] <SlidingHorn> penni: ##php  - for future reference, /msg alis list <searchterm>
[23:28] <firstname> .
[23:31] <firstname> This is the support channel, correct?
[23:32] <rud0lf> correct
[23:35] <firstname> Are IP addresses and host information omitted from the logs?
[23:37] <OerHeks> firstname, no, i guess
[23:37] <Zabot> firstname: Which logs? Auth logs?
[23:37] <OerHeks> sudo commands are omitted
[23:38] <firstname> Yes, the ubuntu IRC logs/archive which goes back to 2004
[23:42] <OerHeks> firstname, oh, you must make clear what logs you talk about
[23:42] <OerHeks> yes, if you check the logs, join/parts are deleted
[23:42] <OerHeks> !logs