| robert_ancell | mwhudson, hi | 01:13 |
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| mwhudson | robert_ancell: hi do you know anything about src:libindicator? | 01:13 |
| mwhudson | robert_ancell: it is an unowned package in main, i get the feeling it shouldn't be in main | 01:14 |
| mwhudson | robert_ancell: but it's still used by ubiquity and libappindicator | 01:14 |
| robert_ancell | mwhudson, ah right. ubiquity is still using some form of Unity isn't it? | 01:14 |
| robert_ancell | and if that's the case then it's sadly still required until a replacement installer exists. | 01:15 |
| mwhudson | robert_ancell: ah hm | 01:16 |
| robert_ancell | Trevinho, ^ any ideas? | 01:16 |
| jbicha | mwhudson: it doesn't seem practical to get rid of libappindicator | 01:18 |
| mwhudson | jbicha: right, but does it actually use libindicator in any meaningful way? | 01:18 |
| jbicha | I guess I'll defer to Marco on that one since I'm not that familiar with the code | 01:19 |
| mwhudson | i shall go away and wait for europe to wake up then :) | 01:20 |
| jbicha | I'm not sure Marco uses a Europe time zone 😁 | 01:21 |
| Trevinho | Sometimes... :) | 01:21 |
| * mwhudson blinks | 01:21 | |
| jbicha | see, not a Europe time zone!! | 01:22 |
| Trevinho | Just because I'm testing the new bouncer provided by irccloud for doing some matrix tests, and so... xD | 01:22 |
| Trevinho | Anyways... | 01:22 |
| Trevinho | mwhudson, well libappindicator is still quite used by various applications, I don't think anything in main depends on that right now, so technically could be removed (I won't do further checks now though :-P) | 01:23 |
| mwhudson | Trevinho: i'm asking about libindicator, not libappindicator... | 01:24 |
| Trevinho | -_- | 01:24 |
| Trevinho | Sorry. | 01:24 |
| Trevinho | So... libindicator... Not really needed at all. | 01:24 |
| robert_ancell | mwhudson, you said libappindicator depends on libindicator right? | 01:24 |
| mwhudson | yes but i wonder if that can be removed | 01:25 |
| Trevinho | yeah it does | 01:25 |
| mwhudson | the dependency i mean | 01:25 |
| Trevinho | so libappindicator server side needs it | 01:25 |
| Trevinho | indicator-appindicator I mean | 01:25 |
| Trevinho | but not libappindicator IIRC | 01:25 |
| mwhudson | the code in ubiquity using it looks to me as if it won't actually do anything because no indicators are installed but i don't know how any of this works | 01:26 |
| Trevinho | but might be wrong actually, as I'm not touching this for quite long time TBH. | 01:26 |
| jbicha | 3 apps in main use libappindicator: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1062811 | 01:27 |
| jbicha | there are also Ayatana forks (libayatana-appindicator and libayatana-indicator) | 01:28 |
| JanC | also remember there likely are outside applications using/expecting it... | 02:01 |
| mwhudson | JanC: only talking about moving from main to universe, sorry if i was unclear | 02:30 |
| JanC | which has implications on support for them :) | 02:32 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:11 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:32 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN | 07:47 |
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| Laney | hullo | 09:01 |
| willcooke | morning all | 09:04 |
| oSoMoN | hey didrocks, Laney, willcooke | 09:05 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, willcooke | 09:05 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers, had a good w.e? | 09:06 |
| oSoMoN | good morning seb128 | 09:07 |
| oSoMoN | I spent a considerable part of the w-e eating calçots (with lots of meat and wine too), that was good | 09:09 |
| seb128 | haha | 09:09 |
| oSoMoN | how was yours? | 09:09 |
| seb128 | good but a bit too busy, I feel exhausted | 09:10 |
| seb128 | swimming pool, helped friends assembling furniture, a dinner and a lunch at friends places | 09:12 |
| seb128 | so we didn't really sit down or relax at all | 09:12 |
| oSoMoN | now you have one full week before FOSDEM to sit down and relax :) | 09:15 |
| seb128 | haha, right, fosdem, I need some energy before going there :) | 09:15 |
| alan_g | I've been experimenting with using snapcraft-desktop-helpers to run snapped GTK apps with Mir and found that gnome-3-28-1804 is only arm64/i386 (as compared to gtk-common-themes which covers other architectures). Is there a reason for this limitation? Should I be using something else? | 09:33 |
| seb128 | alan_g, hey, I'm unsure if we gave much consideration for that but other arches have problem close from 0 desktop/snap users and it's a maintainance cost to add archs, especially when you don't have access to those for testing/Debugging | 09:36 |
| seb128 | alan_g, what other arch would you need? is that customer driven? | 09:38 |
| alan_g | I understand that. At the moment I'm just trying to get a consistent story - it is easy to snap Qt & SDL2 apps to use with, for example, mir-kiosk. But GTK3+ is a PITA. | 09:39 |
| willcooke | alan_g, are you saying amd64 is missing? | 09:49 |
| alan_g | willcooke, no I meant amd64/i386. | 09:52 |
| alan_g | arm64, armhf etc are where I encountered problems | 09:53 |
| seb128 | alan_g, what's the issue with gtk apps? | 10:05 |
| seb128 | or do you mean gtk on non-desktop-stndard arches? | 10:05 |
| alan_g | seb128, there's a whole load of "stuff" they need help to find in a confined snap (adding it to the snap, setting environment variables, etc.). | 10:16 |
| alan_g | And yes, I'm looking cross-architecture. | 10:18 |
| alan_g | But I think I can avoid needing gnome-3-28-1804 (that seems to have been a side-effect of stuff I cut & paste to get a PoC working). | 10:22 |
| andyrock | morning all! | 11:21 |
| oSoMoN | hey andyrock | 11:26 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock! how are you? had a good w.e? | 11:40 |
| seb128 | alan_g, right, you can probably do without the platform is all you are interested in is gtk, you can use the desktop launcher and bundle gtk easily | 11:41 |
| andyrock | hey seb128! yeah, mostly visiting museums :D what about you? | 11:41 |
| seb128 | andyrock, went swimming, assembled some furniture and had 1 dinner and 1 lunch with friends | 11:41 |
| Laney | moin andyrock | 11:59 |
| clobrano | good afternoon everyone o/ | 13:51 |
| Laney | hey clobrano | 14:08 |
| seb128 | hey clobrano, how are you? | 14:10 |
| clobrano | hey Laney , seb128 , I'm doing fine, and you? | 14:25 |
| seb128 | I'm good! | 14:25 |
| clobrano | a bit of a mess at work, since we're moving to another building, but it's fine :D | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN: i've published gnome-3-28-1804 with gtk3-locales to stable | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN: in case you have any snaps you'd like to utilize it with | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN: ever consider using the content snap for chromium? | 16:03 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, nice, thanks | 16:29 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, it'll automatically do when we start building with the gnome extension | 16:29 |
| Laney | Testsuite summary for gnome-keyring 3.28.0.1 | 17:26 |
| Laney | # FAIL: 0 | 17:26 |
| Laney | # ERROR: 0 | 17:26 |
| * Laney sweats | 17:26 | |
| Trevinho | 💃 | 17:27 |
| Laney | not massively sure about this though | 17:29 |
| * Laney ploughs on | 17:29 | |
| Trevinho | laney's diff: | 17:30 |
| Trevinho | --- test_this_that_fails (); | 17:30 |
| Trevinho | +++ /* test_this_that_fails (); */ | 17:30 |
| Laney | 😭😭😭😭😭😭 how can you see my screen | 17:31 |
| Trevinho | Ahaha, you know... That day you let me in via SSH.... | 17:31 |
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| willcooke | cubs tonight, cya tomrrow | 18:21 |
| Trevinho | /go | 20:21 |
| oSoMoN | good night all | 20:49 |
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