[00:00] <core7> I've a lenovo X1 extreme and have ubuntu 18.04 lts on it. When it goes to sleep, it hangs, no wake up. Anyone knows how to solve this?
[00:07] <core7> if one updates a livesession and then installs ubuntu from there - do the updated packages get installed? what about after a reboot?
[00:07] <kk4ewt> core7, other than the dont put it to sleep
[00:07] <kk4ewt> no
[00:08] <core7> kk4ewt: i think it even hangs after 5 minutes of blank screen - not sure how to debug it yet.
[00:08] <kk4ewt> powertop is a good place to start
[00:16] <OerHeks> https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/X1-Carbon-Gen-6-cannot-enter-deep-sleep-S3-state-aka-Suspend-to/td-p/3998182
[00:16] <OerHeks> Dear customers,
[00:16] <OerHeks> At this moment, there is no specific plan to support S3 on X1 Carbon Gen 6.  -- There are two 2018 ThinkPad products support Modern standby, ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 6 and X1 Yoga 3rd .
[00:16] <quadrathoch2> Hey, I just wanted to install ubuntu on my pc (with debootstrap) but somehow, even after reinstalling the packages, I don't have these programs to configure my system: grub-install, dpkg-reconfigure, useradd and most programs to setup (am I missing something? already looked at over 10 tutorials) :/ but none are specific to install it on actual hardware
[00:18] <core7> OerHeks: S3 ?
[00:19] <OerHeks> bios S3 (suspend-to-RAM)
[00:20] <core7> OerHeks: My ubuntu shows S3 on dmesg | grep -i acpi | grep supports
[00:20] <core7> what am i mising?
[00:20] <core7> OerHeks: On ubuntu 18.04 - just the blank screen on 5 minutes triggers a hang - which needs a hard reboot
[00:22] <OerHeks> it is not the real supported S3, and Lenovo seems not willingly to patch this correctly
[00:22] <OerHeks> and other energy settings might be a help, screen blanc <never> and such
[00:23] <core7> OerHeks: That is what I am doing - so should i just power off the machine whenever I need to conserve battery - or is there a way out of this problem?
[00:25] <quadrathoch2> core7: probably just hibernate (or whatever it is called where he dumps the ram onto the disk (swap) and shutdowns
[00:25] <OerHeks> yes, i guess power off would be a workaround for now, this issue happens on other distros as well
[00:26] <core7> quadrathoch2: is there a cli for hibernate in ubuntu 18.04?
[00:27] <quadrathoch2> core7: http://tipsonubuntu.com/2017/05/03/re-enable-hibernate-ubuntu-17-04/ should also work on newer
[00:28] <core7> quadrathoch2: pm-utils is not available on 18.04
[00:29] <quadrathoch2> core7: it should be (just checked packages.ubuntu.com)
[00:29] <core7> and systemctl hibernate gives the error -> "Failed to hibernate, Sleep verb not supported"
[00:30] <quadrathoch2> core7: it's under universe
[00:30] <core7> ah - swap is not active - it needs that to be active to hibernate it seems
[00:31] <quadrathoch2> core7: yes, without it, the system doesn't know where to dump the data
[00:32] <core7> OerHeks: when installing ubuntu 18.04 lts on a lenovo x1 extreme laptop - do i configure secure boot?
[00:32] <core7> quadrathoch2: thanks - I am on livesession - checking if things work - I guess hibernate i can test after install only
[00:32] <quadrathoch2> core7: ahh k :)
[00:37] <core7> I created a recover windows disk for a 1TB Win 10 installation. I want to wipe the hard drive and install ubuntu. If I want to go back to windows, can I use the recover media, after the wiping of the hard drive (and ubuntu installed on it) ? - does anyone have experience with this here?
[00:38] <quadrathoch2> core7: why don't you just create a usb install media with windows on it, just to be sure, then put the usb stick somewhere and then wipe the whole drive
[00:38] <quadrathoch2> or just dual boot without ever booting windows
[00:40] <woenx> Hey. one question. for some reasons my indicators do not appear anymore (well, only those native from gnome). What could be the cause? (i'm using ubuntu 18.04 with the default desktop)
[00:40] <jacober> I like having dual boot because you learn ubuntu you can still go back to something familiar if you get totally lost
[00:40] <jacober> Or something goes wrong
[00:41] <quadrathoch2> jacober: yes, that's why most people do it, and it's very easy to set up
[00:41] <woenx> i think it all started when I installed the lightdm greeter and uninstalled it
[00:41] <jacober> I've had to go back to windows to unfuck partitions because I screwed up ubuntu too much and i was grafeful for the having it in the background
[00:42] <quadrathoch2> woenx: which indicators are you talking about? (trayicons?)
[00:42] <woenx> quadrathoch2, yes, for instance, the mail app mailspring, and Opendrive, a google drive client
[00:43] <woenx> they usually showed their indicator on the taskbar, but they do not appear anymore
[00:43] <woenx> (the main interface works normally, though)
[00:43] <quadrathoch2> woenx: do you have a gnome extension installed for that? maybe check on it if you have
[00:43] <quadrathoch2> because lightdm shouldnt change anything with trayicons
[00:45] <woenx> quadrathoch2, yes, it'sinstalled and enabled (i just checked and restarted the computer)
[00:45] <quadrathoch2> woenx: weird :/
[00:45] <woenx> I tried this now: https://askubuntu.com/questions/966987/indicator-icons-do-not-appear-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-17-10
[00:45] <woenx> but I guess i have to reboot to see if it works
[00:45] <woenx> i'll be right back
[00:46] <quadrathoch2> sure
[00:46] <woenx> running this command: killall indicator-application-service, makes the indicators appear again the in top bar
[00:46] <woenx> let's see if I can make it permanent
[00:46] <quadrathoch2> ahh nice, so just uninstall probably
[00:47] <woenx> yup
[00:47] <woenx> brb
[00:50] <woenx> yup, it worked. I just uninstalled "indicator-application" and the icons are back
[00:50] <quadrathoch2> woenx: awesome :) as I don't use gnome, don't have too much experience with indicators on gnome
[00:53] <woenx> I still think Unity was a better desktop environment (I know I know, unpopular opinion)
[00:54] <woenx> but it's much more lightweight
[00:54] <quadrathoch2> woenx: why don't you install it then. it's still in the repositorues
[00:54] <quadrathoch2> repositories
[00:55] <woenx> Yes, I use it for an older laptop (core2duo with 4gb of ram)
[00:56] <woenx> it's like night and day
[00:56] <woenx> for a newer laptop the difference is subtle, so I prefer to go with the default settings for compatibility reasons
[00:56] <quadrathoch2> Yeah, went from gnome to xfce, which imo is even crazier
[00:56] <core7> quadrathoch2: that is the usb install media if I am not mistaken - the recover disk that windows creates - its on usb
[00:57] <woenx> I haven't tried it since xubuntu 5.04 or something like that
[00:57] <core7> quadrathoch2: the usb disk is titled recovery
[00:57] <quadrathoch2> core7: oh okay, because as far as I can remember, that is an image of the actual system, not a install disk
[00:57] <quadrathoch2> woenx: well, didn't change much, but that's what I like
[00:57] <core7> quadrathoch2: is there a way to create the actual installer disk from a current install?
[00:58] <quadrathoch2> core7: on win?
[00:58] <core7> win 10
[00:58] <quadrathoch2> well just go to microsoft com and download their usb stick creator (which does it automatically)
[00:58] <core7> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 ?
[00:58] <quadrathoch2> you can download win10 for free
[00:59] <quadrathoch2> yes
[00:59] <quadrathoch2> under win, you can only download the creator not the image itself
[00:59] <core7> what about the license key and stuff?
[00:59] <core7> I just have the lenovo laptop - not sure where the windows license key is on my machine
[00:59] <quadrathoch2> core7: win10 has a 30 day trial, plus the key is normally stored in the uefi bios
[01:00] <quadrathoch2> and if you have a ms account it's also stored on your acc, that this pc has a legit win license
[01:04] <core7> quadrathoch2: can i use that installation media to install win 10 inside a VM inside ubuntu?
[01:04] <quadrathoch2> core7: if you loop the usb stick to you vm, yes
[01:05] <core7> quadrathoch2: and i can lookup the license keys from the BIOS?
[01:05] <quadrathoch2> core7: give me a sec, it's easier just to check your key in windows now (with an external program) write it out, and then use it. But as far as I know and remember, you are not allowed to use the key you have right now on a vm
[01:06] <OerHeks> they key is in the account that registered the 10 copy
[01:07] <OerHeks> running in a vm is possible, for 30 days
[01:07] <core7> OerHeks: I never gave it the account
[01:07] <quadrathoch2> OerHeks: well as long as you registered an account
[01:07] <core7> i do not have a registered account - so far - I can register of course
[01:08] <OerHeks> then contact the vendor, glad it is not an ubuntu issue .. using the recovery partition would avoid all this
[01:08] <quadrathoch2> core7: well the program is called windows product key viewer bei woot32, can't find the official site right now
[01:10] <quadrathoch2> core7: oops, I meant windows product key viewer by woot32, my german got in the way :(
[01:12] <core7> OerHeks: there is a winre_DRV on the machine. I  was hoping when I click "recover" on my recovery usb disk - It brings back the original partition. I've never tried it, so not sure about it though
[01:15] <quadrathoch2> core7: well, I don't trust the oems too much, that's why I would always (even if I would use win) reinstall everything (just looking at the history of lenovo :vomit:
[01:15] <OerHeks> yes, it should create the recovery partition again, from where the win10 install starts
[01:15] <OerHeks> with all the bloatware and freebies
[01:25] <core7> quadrathoch2: OerHeks: Thanks
[01:25] <quadrathoch2> core7: no problem :)
[01:26] <Sven_vB> I solved my question from yesterday why bash would react to "mount" with "bash: /bin/mount: No such file or directory" although the same bash happily confirming that said file exists, is executable and has proper content. the error message was misleading. bash was unable to execve(/bin/mount); it returned an error code meaning "file not found". however, the error code mechanism doesn't seem capable of conveying which file it is related
[01:26] <Sven_vB> to: one of the shared libraries that mount was dynamically linked against.
[01:27] <Sven_vB> log link to old discussion: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/01/26/%23ubuntu.html#t01:35
[01:30] <Sven_vB> shells with more helpful error messages probably exist
[01:32] <slloyd> anybody know of zfs support being added to official installer.
[01:39] <slloyd> test
[01:44] <Loshki> slloyd: not sure. Start here -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[01:55] <core7> with 64GB of memory, ubuntu allocated only 1GB of swap - is this normal?
[01:58] <guiverc> core7, Ubuntu by default creates swapfiles (which can be increased in size easily compared to partitions) - your usage will dictate what you need.  maybe look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[02:03] <core7> guiverc: there was no /swapfile on my system i saw
[02:03] <core7> does it create it when it needs it?
[02:05] <guiverc> what release of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:07] <jacober> My wifi connect is very slow like in the order of 200 kps in Windows. I am dual boot Ubuntu on a HP, the wifi adapter is Realtek and it is connected obviously but very slow. Can someone help?
[02:30] <Sheilong> jacober: Close the windows, the wind might be throwing your speed away
[02:32] <murphey> I am having an issue using Ubuntu Mate 18.10 I have a tablet computer and have a script set up to change the screen orientation based on the accelerometer. when the screen orientation changes the bottom of the background cuts off and there is terrible screen ghosting/tearing when I drag windows. I made a black background and turned off the compositor for now and it isn't noticable but I'd rather have a proper
[02:39] <core7> can anyone help me with mok/secureboot? I installed vbox and it complains of PKCS#7 signature not signed with a trusted key
[02:39] <core7> how do i fix this?
[02:40] <core7> nvidia drivers are also acting up
[02:46] <tomreyn> core7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/DKMS https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/08/11/how-to-sign-things-for-secure-boot
[02:47] <core7> tomreyn: I am trying to wrap my head around secureboot
[02:48] <tomreyn> ok
[02:48] <core7> So whenever I install a new thing - like for example virtualbox - I have to reboot and then get inside MOK screen and enable?
[02:49] <core7> tomreyn: I did the wrong think on the MOK screen the first time, now the screen does not show up
[02:49] <tomreyn> no. if you'll use only modules which are signed by ubuntu then you shouldn't need to do anything but to ensure you have the shim installed.
[02:49] <core7> tomreyn: I am installing virtualbox from oracle's ppa - same with nvidia drivers
[02:50] <core7> tomreyn: Even if i uninstall and reinstall virtualbox, I dont get the MOK screen anymore
[02:50] <core7> Perhaps I need to uninstall dkms, and reinstall?
[02:50] <tomreyn> if you build modules yourself or use non ubuntu modules you will have to create a key + certificate yourself, sign them yourself, and install the certificate.
[02:51] <tomreyn> apparently you chose to do the latter
[02:51] <core7> tomreyn: in that case - better to disable secureboot?
[02:51] <tomreyn> this is your choice to make
[02:51] <core7> is that option in bios or in ubuntu?
[02:51] <tomreyn> "bios"
[02:52] <tomreyn> you didnt read the articles i linked, please do so.
[02:53] <tomreyn> that's if you want secureboot, if you just want to disable it you only need to consult your mainboard manual or just do it.
[02:54] <core7> tomreyn: I disabled it and everything works for now. I think at some point, I need to read those articles, enable secureboot and then sign those modules that I am loading at boot
[02:59] <core7> installing packages using snap vs apt-get - what is preferable?
[03:09] <AngelKde> sorry people i have one question now is the best ubuntu 16.04 whit unity o ubuntu 18.04 whit gnome ?
[03:15] <pokmo> hi
[03:15] <pokmo> anyone know if vim's replace replace function accepts a regex?
[03:15] <pokmo> i.e. should :%s/"A": "[^"]+"/"A": ""/g work?
[03:15] <pokmo> that is to replace all instances of "A": "...." with "A": ""
[03:26] <krytarik> pokmo: You need to escape the '+' like "\+" though.
[03:26] <pokmo> krytarik oh! you're right
[03:26] <pokmo> boy, that took me a while
[03:27] <pokmo> how come +'s need to be escaped?
[03:27] <krytarik> Because that is extended regex - similar to sed and grep
[03:28] <pokmo> i use -E with grep
[03:28] <pokmo> maybe that does all the escaping behind the scene
[03:28] <krytarik> Yes, that stands for extended.
[03:29] <pokmo> thanks
[03:29] <krytarik> Sure.
[03:40] <robertparkerx> I've got a lamp stack up and its fine. How do I get the ability to create mail address for the vhost?
[03:50] <kxs> Hello, everyone. Do you know which version kernel of Debian 10-stable uses? 4.14 or 4.19?
[03:50] <kxs> 有知道的朋友吗？
[03:53] <guiverc> kxs, we support Ubuntu, not debian (inc. debian testing/buster)   -- it's not 4.14 though
[03:54] <Dreaman> 4.19
[03:55] <Dreaman> this is ubuntu channel not debian
[03:56] <Wonny> Any tips on getting my default laptop mic to work?
[03:57] <kxs> Thank you. I can't speak at debian's IRC. I don't know why.
[03:58] <kxs> So I came here to consult.
[03:58] <OerHeks> the error you see says something about registering?
[03:58] <OerHeks> !register
[03:59] <OerHeks> most channels do not allow unregistered guests
[04:00] <kxs> Looking at the error log may have connection problems, but it's not important to know that Debian 10 stable uses 4.19.
[04:00] <OerHeks> yes, good luck!
[04:01] <kxs> Thanks，bye
[04:02] <guiverc> debian 10 is not stable yet - it's debian-testing
[04:17] <bumpadump> hello! i have a thinkpad x120e here that I installed xubuntu on, and it has an issue where the X server fails to start up after waking from sleep. when you open the lid, there is just a black screen. if you hit ctrl+alt+f2, you can get to a terminal, but running startx there fails, "server terminated successfully"
[04:17] <bumpadump> if anyone has expertise to help on diagnosing the X startup issue, that would be amazing. I already looked at the log specified in the startx output, and there's no obvious error messages there
[04:18] <Dreaman> start save mode and joint xubuntu channel
[04:18] <bumpadump> Dreaman: thanks will check in xubuntu. do you mean safe mode?
[04:19] <Dreaman> boot see options
[04:20] <Deihmos> is apt-get and apt the same?
[04:20] <Dreaman> yes
[04:20] <Deihmos> apt-get install apt install. does it make a difference
[04:20] <Dreaman> no
[04:20] <Deihmos> thanks
[04:48] <Elronnd> is there any way I can make it so that nautilus doesn't automatically mount external drives when I plug them in
[05:11] <someoneelse> hi
[05:38] <IcemanV9> Elronnd: https://askubuntu.com/questions/89244/how-to-disable-automount-in-nautiluss-preferences
[05:39] <XATRIX> Hi , can you advice  ? I constantly have a trouble with https://pastebin.com/1pAXf308
[05:39] <XATRIX> Nothing helps.. anything you can advice me with ?
[05:41] <Kyros> XATRIX: that usually happens because something depends on those.
[05:42] <XATRIX> Kyros: yea, but how can i fix this issues ? It happend, after i upgraded my ubuntu
[05:43] <Kyros> XATRIX: the time i ran into it, i tracked down what was holding it back, removed that, upgraded, and reinstalled the other packages
[05:43] <Kyros> something like that, its been awhile
[05:44] <XATRIX> How can i track the packages which holding these thing up ?
[05:46] <Kyros> XATRIX: https://askubuntu.com/questions/13296/how-do-i-find-the-reverse-dependency-of-a-package
[05:46] <XATRIX> Kyros: got it, thanks
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:21] <yacine> hi
[06:49] <zhaozizheng> join #al1
[07:31] <Bilbo0>  Not for the first time but previous time was a long time ago my screen freezes up with a messed up checker pattern and colors wildly off. The checker pattern consists of different wrong color schemes of the existing display. Just now my PC froze up again, it was black with red lines. after about 10 seconds my computer beeped and it went black, 10 seconds latter beep and red lines, 10 seconds latter, black with a white dash in the left hand
[07:31] <Bilbo0> corner, it kept beeping every 10 seconds or so with some minor graphic changes till I do a hard reset.
[08:41] <tadej> hi all
[08:42] <ConsciousCreator>  /j #depression
[08:42] <tadej> I need help with netplan, I cant get pass unknown Key version...
[08:52] <martiansoul> i use xchat on ubuntu 16.04. it is unable to connect to any freenode server or ubuntu server from a long time.
[08:52] <martiansoul> what should i do?
[08:52] <gimpnixon> good morning, I am trying to change primary monitor while using a multihead xinerama display configuration. The reason being is that when I control gamma it is only effecting Screen0 and not Screen1. any ideas?
[08:52] <martiansoul> it has been months since it connected to a freenode server
[08:54] <martiansoul> also, can anyone suggest any different irc client for ubuntu 16.04
[08:54] <martiansoul> ?
[08:54] <gimpnixon> martiansoul how are you connecting to this server now? have you tried to use a different IRC program?
[08:54] <ducasse> !xchat
[08:54] <ducasse> martiansoul: ^^
[08:55] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: i am connected through browser
[08:55] <martiansoul> ducasse: thanks
[08:55] <martiansoul> ubottu: thanks.
[08:55] <gimpnixon> I use Irssi. I like it a lot. it takes a little working with but it's really nothing hard. instead of push buttons you have to type /connect, and /join. but it's good, a lot of information about it online
[08:56] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: okay, i will try to install it now.
[08:56] <gimpnixon> if you are used to Xchat - hexchat will be an almost drop in replacement for you like Ubottu mentioned
[08:58] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: sorry, but i don't understand what you mean by "drop in replacement". Do you mean to say that it will be low performing?
[08:59] <gimpnixon> like they are almost identical. sorry for the wording i used
[08:59] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: okay.
[09:00] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: i actually installed irssi.
[09:01] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: connecting to irc.freenode.net is taking too much time even in irssi.
[09:02] <martiansoul> failed with a connection time out error
[09:02] <gimpnixon> weird. just type /connet freenode
[09:03] <gimpnixon> connect*
[09:03] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: waiting
[09:03] <martiansoul> *to connect
[09:04] <gimpnixon> it shouldnt take long at all. so somethign else must be going on.
[09:04] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: yes something else must be wrong.
[09:04] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: any ideas?
[09:05] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: connection timed out
[09:05] <gimpnixon> I haven't ever ran into any problems connecting to irc. are you behind a firewall? that may effect it.
[09:06] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: i am not sure about the firewall. is there any method by which i can check?
[09:07] <gimpnixon> you can try iptables
[09:08] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: sorry, i don't understand can you explain a little further how to use iptables?
[09:09] <gimpnixon> before we go all through this, may i ask why you're using ubuntu 16? Are you sure your system is up to date?
[09:10] <gimpnixon> that could also effect many things in your system
[09:10] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: i just never updated the system to ubuntu 18.04
[09:11] <gimpnixon> may I suggest you try to make sure your system is up to date and try irc again?
[09:12] <gimpnixon> . sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:13] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: okay. this will preserve all the files in my system, right?
[09:13] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: i mean the files which i have created and all the data.
[09:13] <martiansoul> all my data.
[09:14] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: also, how long will it take to update the system?
[09:14] <gimpnixon> As with any update you are recomended to backup your system. However on a personal note. I have not ran into any issues upgrade to a stable release. I have only ran into minor issues upgrading to Development releases. I am currently running Ubuntu 19 Dingo.
[09:14] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: okay.
[09:15] <gimpnixon> It will take probably 30 or 40 minutes. be sure your system is plugged in before you start if you are running on a laptop.
[09:15] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: okay. thanks. will try to update it now.
[09:16] <gimpnixon> It is always in your best interest when troubleshooting issues to be sure your system is up to date. that in itself can fix a lot of issues by itself.
[09:17] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: okay.
[09:17] <gimpnixon> np glad to give you some input on your situation
[09:19] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: before i update, since it will take some time. i had another issue. i installed octave and when i type in octave on the terminal it shows the error: "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/octave/4.2.2/exec/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/octave-gui: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5OpenGL.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZTV26QOpenGLSharedResourceGuard"
[09:19] <martiansoul> what could this mean?
[09:21] <gimpnixon> again sorry to repeat myself but this could be a situation with your system being out of date. Do the update and reboot then try Octave as well as your IRC again. then that will give you a better base line to start with
[09:22] <gimpnixon> you shoudl be able to remain on here until your system is updated and you have to reboot
[09:22] <martiansoul> gimpnixon: okay. sorry to ask again. and thanks. putting it on update.
[09:24] <gimpnixon> in reference to your octave problem you may jsut be missing a package. looking online i see many references to a Symbolic package that is required by Otave
[09:28] <gimpnixon> after your update. do - apt search octave-symbolic
[09:29] <gimpnixon> and be sure that your octave-symbolic package is installed.
[09:29] <gimpnixon> that maybe could should possibly fix that issue for you
[09:30] <gimpnixon> Any Xinerama nerds on here this morning?
[09:46] <gimpnixon> Anyone familiar with Multihead monitors?
[09:47] <c-monz> aloha. i am having some issues
[09:47] <gimpnixon> Whats that
[09:47] <c-monz> ?
[09:48] <c-monz> i do not know if i installed my copy of ubuntu mate correctly i keep getting certain errors in terminal
[09:48] <EriC^^> c-monz: what errors?
[09:48] <c-monz> whikle trying to downloading some software ect
[09:48] <EriC^^> !paste | c-monz
[09:48] <c-monz> i will copy and paste errors now give me a sec
[09:49] <c-monz> sudo: apt-install: command not found
[09:50] <gimpnixon> yeah. you need to be using sudo apt install
[09:50] <c-monz> ??? also are you suppose to type a command to activate sudo ?
[09:50] <gimpnixon> with no dash. or sudo apt-get install
[09:50] <c-monz> gotcha since i have you on chat how do i verify my install
[09:50] <gimpnixon> when you type sudo you will get a prompt for your password
[09:51] <gimpnixon> how do you verify your install? lke the program you're tryign to install?
[09:51] <c-monz> thanks for ur help appreciate it
[09:51] <c-monz> no i mean after installing my ubuntu download isn
[09:52] <c-monz> there a way to verify it is authenticate
[09:52] <gimpnixon> you have to run the checksum.
[09:52] <c-monz> a command?
[09:53] <gimpnixon> on your download. I'm not sure on details. you would have to maybe search online for how to use ubuntu checksum
[09:53] <c-monz> got it tganks
[09:53] <gimpnixon> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu
[09:54] <gimpnixon> should be a good starting place for you
[09:56] <Tin_man> gimpnixon, i'm getting a 404 page on your link.. (just Me?)
[09:57] <elias_a> Tin_man, gimpnixon 404 here as well
[09:57] <gimpnixon> the second tutorials shoudl jsut be tutorial
[09:58] <gimpnixon> tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/totorial-*
[09:59] <gimpnixon> search 'ubuntu checksum' and it's the first link.
[09:59] <Tin_man> something wrong with your links there gimpnixon ... another 404..
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> !md5
[10:00] <gimpnixon> Tin_man Seach in a web browser "Ubuntu Checksum" and it is the very first link
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> !google | gimpnixon
[10:01] <Tin_man> gimpnixon, i'm not have a problem..
[10:01] <gimpnixon> ubottu i didn't ask anyone to use google.
[10:02] <gimpnixon> ubotu: I didn't.
[10:02] <SimonNL> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu#0
[10:04] <gimpnixon> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu#0
[10:05] <za1b1tsu> what is the best option if I need an older version of postgres 9.4 ?
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> za1b1tsu: we dont reccomend mixing package versions on ubuntu
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> za1b1tsu: if you need something older, try an older ubuntu version
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> za1b1tsu: maybe you can share your story, what you are trying to do in the channel, volunteers might have other ideas?
[10:09] <za1b1tsu> lotuspsychje, the company that I work for uses 9.4
[10:09] <za1b1tsu> there is nothing I can do about it
[10:09] <za1b1tsu> and changes my OS just for a package seems like an overkill
[10:09] <elias_a> lotuspsychje: Not to mention that Google is simply evil nowadays and its services should not be used at all.
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> za1b1tsu: wich ubuntu version/kernel is your company on?
[10:13] <za1b1tsu> they all use macosx, I am the black sheep
[10:13] <za1b1tsu> I refuse to use it
[10:14] <za1b1tsu> so it's basically my problem :)
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> za1b1tsu: but is a higher version not compatible with your work or something?
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> za1b1tsu: hmm, i see we have also a postgresql94  9.4.18 snap
[10:17] <za1b1tsu> hmm, I would use it as snap then, ha
[10:17] <za1b1tsu> thank you
[10:18] <za1b1tsu> some tests were failing, decimal inconsistency
[10:20] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: no don't use the snap, use postgresql official repos  https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/
[10:21] <za1b1tsu> blackflow, and I can install 94 with it on Ubuntu 18.10?
[10:24] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: yes, from 9.3 through 12
[10:24] <za1b1tsu> now that is awesome
[10:25] <za1b1tsu> blackflow, thank you
[10:26] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: you're welcome
[10:27] <guiverc_d> rail
[10:53] <sabrehagen> Why does apt-get install -f remove my broken package, not install its dependencies and fix it? https://i.imgur.com/hozeBgM.png
[10:53] <arpad2> after sudo nvidia-xconfig the diplay resolution maxed  at 960x540. how can I change this back to hd?
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> sabrehagen: did you add external ppa's of any kind to your system?
[10:54] <sabrehagen> lotuspsychje: some, yes
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> sabrehagen: try to purge those back to the vanilla ubuntu sources with ppapurge first
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | sabrehagen
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: whats your ubuntu version, graphics card chipset and driver version please?
[10:56] <za1b1tsu> Does anyone else get a really tiny cursor when using firefox? I am on a Retina screen
[10:57] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: Xubuntu 18.10
[10:57] <sabrehagen> lotuspsychje: hmm, that works. why do external ppa's break this?
[10:57] <albech> anyone know how to push dns servers obtained from openvpn lease as the primary dns servers? this problem was introduced with 17.08 with systemd. In 16.04 the problem was fixed by disabling dnsmasq.
[10:58] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: nvidia-driver 390
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | sabrehagen
[10:59] <lowkeycoat1> please bear with me as i have to use my phone for this, ubuntu 16.04 freezing constantly. i ran dmesg and got : acpi lnxcpu 00 invalid pblk length, acpi bios error asl declared 5 acpi requires 4. namespace look up failure
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: can you check: sudo lshw -C video, to see if driver= is active please?
[10:59] <albech> as you can see the dns is passed on to the client, it just doesnt get queried. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nJWbTkW4Hs/
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> sabrehagen: to keep an ubuntu system workable we reccomend to use/install packages from the official repos
[11:02] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: https://justpaste.it/46xft
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: thanks for checking, driver seems loaded
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: does ubuntu-drivers list, show any other nvidia driver versions?
[11:04] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: nvidia 390, 340.107, nouveau
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: ok tnx, is your system up to date also please?
[11:05] <sabrehagen> lotuspsychje: and when you want to use a package from an independent developer, what do you do?
[11:05] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: I think so :) should I run software update?
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: yes try please: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:06] <sabrehagen> And how can I resolve my current situation pragmatically, preferably continuing to use the ppa
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> sabrehagen: its your system, i never said you cannot try a ppa, we just reccomend to not have breakage of dependencys its better to work with official packages
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> sabrehagen: see also !backports and snaps for other ubuntu package versions
[11:07] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: " irqbalance1 to upgrade"
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: not sure that will fix the resolution problem, but update anyway :p
[11:09] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: done
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: after upgrade you could maybe try another nvidia driver from the ubuntu graphics ppa
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | arpad2 here
[11:11] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: do I need to edit the monitor resolution in xorg.conf?
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: no, try a driver switch first
[11:13] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: ok, I'll try v340
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: maybe something higher
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: 390 from the ppa,or 396
[11:14] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: ok, with 340 it's the same resolution
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: do you switch your card to performance mode in nvidia-settings?
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> !acpi | lowkeycoat1 can this help?
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> albech: are you on ubuntu desktop or server please?
[11:21] <OerHeks> maybe reset monitor with its own menu to factory defaults?
[11:24] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: no, it's in nvidia performance mode
[11:25] <tijn> Hi all, i have a wierd issue since last friday. All of a sudden, my user was not able to login anymore (keeps going back to the login screen). When i choose to use Unity, i can login. When i delete: ~/.config/dconf/ i can use gnome-shell again.. Anyway: accepted my fate and started configuring again, when i logged out en had the same problem as before... How can i debug this? I really like my old config back :)
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: did you try what OerHeks suggests?
[11:26] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: it's a laptop
[11:29] <OerHeks> try 'adaptive' in nvidia settings? or see if your bios has some settings that overclock the gpu, or even check for bios updates
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> tijn: wich ubuntu version is this? graphics card? driver version?
[11:31] <arpad2> OerHeks: now, it is showing that nvidia packages are broken. how can I remove nvidia completely and the to reinstall it?
[11:31] <tijn> Ubuntu 18.04.1,  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> tijn: try to get in your system with nomodeset please
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | tijn
[11:36] <lowkeycoat1> lotus: this gives me a great place to start. thank you! just to see if things can be done a bit easyer.... is there a .exe converter of some sort?
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> lowkeycoat1: converter for?
[11:36] <albech> lotuspsychje: desktop
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> albech: ok tnx, re-state your question in this channel once in a while, more volunteers will wakeup soon
[11:37] <tijn> Thanks lotuspsychje
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> lowkeycoat1: you mean to create a bios update usb stick?
[11:38] <albech> lotuspsychje: thanks, will do. just dont like to spam :)
[11:38] <lowkeycoat1> lotus: yes. through linux, hp has the windows .exe only files
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> lowkeycoat1: i used something here for firmware update my ssd: https://www.plop.at/en/downloads.html
[11:40] <albech> lotuspsychje: believe this is what i am experiencing, but i hear some people have it working. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/1799262
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> albech: this only happens in 18.10 right? maybe doublecheck the procedure here https://linuxconfig.org/openvpn-setup-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux maybe you can find something usefull?
[11:46] <albech> lotuspsychje: correct. Only on 18.04. I have a 16.04 running with no problems where the DNS handed to the client from the openvpn server is promoted correctly.
[11:47] <lowkeycoat1> lotus: thank you very much, im going to run a live windows usb. i hope it works, i will give feed back in a day or so as i have to go get one lol, thank you!
[11:47] <OerHeks> windows live usb, wow, really?
[11:48] <lowkeycoat1> old hardware
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> lowkeycoat1: see also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate
[11:51] <tijn> lotuspsychje, that did not do the trick :/
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> tijn: you still looped back to login?
[11:51] <tijn> Yes
[11:51] <tijn> Back on unity
[11:52] <OerHeks> maybe a ~/.Xauthority issue perhaps
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> tijn: you can only enter unity and not gnome is that it?
[11:53] <tijn> OerHeks, already checked that
[11:53] <tijn> lotuspsychje, Correct
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> tijn: was this an lts upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 perhaps?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:53] <tijn> Yes, but about a month ago
[11:54] <arpad2> I tried to delete nvidia, and to switch to Nouveau, but in Additional Drivers its not allowing me...
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: try from a terminal: sudo apt purge nvidia*
[11:54] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: thats what I did
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> tijn: maybe something got scrambled between gdm3 and lightdm
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> tijn: it might be usefull to see what happens at your text-boot (press F1 at boot proces to see)
[11:55] <tijn> So, i will try lightdm
[11:55] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: but in Additional Drivers nvidia is still there and when I select Nouveau it's not changing
[11:56] <tijn> Ok, will try that :)
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: do you reboot after driver switching?
[11:57] <arpad2> no
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: try that after nvidia purge
[11:58] <arpad2> ok
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: wich driver is now active please?
[12:06] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: how can I check that? in Additional Drivers it is showing nvidia 390
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: then the purge didnt workout well?
[12:07] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: it seems so...
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: sudo apt purge nvidia* did you do it like this?
[12:08] <OerHeks> use the same additional driver menu to roll back to nouveau, how hard can that be?
[12:08] <OerHeks> really, don't do tricks if the menu gives the good tools
[12:08] <arpad2> lotuspsychje:like this:  sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> not -
[12:09] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: so, not the same
[12:10] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: there are some error messages regarding unmet dependencies
[12:11] <qwebirc56108> Hi guys. I'm having trouble loading a custom template on Ubuntu 18.04 using example https://askubuntu.com/questions/344702/is-it-possible-to-ask-arbitrary-questions-in-the-preseed-during-ubuntu-install
[12:11] <qwebirc56108> I get the error "my-question/ask does not exist"
[12:12] <qwebirc56108> Any clue what this could be? I verified loading the templates works manually.
[12:12] <lowkeycoat1> lotus: nope im still going to have to use windows, the computer is hp and hp has blocking on some of its software updates from non-windows OS's. i can only assume I/computer fits into that catgory, hp site is not showing me the file i need.
[12:13] <arpad2> lotuspychje: https://justpaste.it/2v75t
[12:13] <esjay_> retards
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: thats a big list :p
[12:15] <esjay_> is this channel full of pedantic fucks
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: maybe we should try it as OerHeks suggested, just select the driver you want to switch in additional drivers?
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> !ops | esjay_
[12:15] <esjay_> I know who the ops are
[12:15] <esjay_> I dont need to be shown a list
[12:20] <lowkeycoat1> thank you all.
[12:47] <qwebirc21748> hi, quick and probably stupid question: I've manually installed a version of Openssl, and I can see that 'which' points to that new version, but if I run just 'openssl version' it still runs the old one. Not really a problem but am just wondering how/where the old version lives?
[12:49] <OerHeks> hi, quick answer, qwebirc21748, why did you install a custom openssl, and did not delete the old and truly supported openssl?
[12:54] <EriC^^> qwebirc21748: try using the full path of the new executable with version
[12:54] <EriC^^> maybe it is actually running
[12:55] <OerHeks> i wonder why it would run ..
[13:31] <abdelrahman> hello
[13:31] <paragraff> hi
[13:31] <qwebirc21748> upon rebooting it's using the new version as expected, i was just wondering if there's some kind of caching for replaced programs that I'm not aware of.
[13:32] <ioria> qwebirc21748, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5609/how-do-i-clear-bashs-cache-of-paths-to-executables
[13:33] <OerHeks> qwebirc21748, we don't know what happened on your system, you installed an *openssl* version over the supported version, so no support
[13:38] <EriC^^> qwebirc21748: did you update the PATH variable by adding the new version's dir to it by any chance?
[13:41] <EriC^^> qwebirc21748: or maybe the software added it, in any case updates to /etc/environment would happen if you logout and back in, so that's one explanation
[13:56] <IniGit> hi
[13:56] <IniGit> During boot when I press ESC I see a black console with all sorts of messages, but it goes to fast – I cannot read them. How can I ascces them after boot, so that I can check if everythings fine?
[13:58] <OerHeks> the log in /var/log/boot.log gives the info
[13:58] <OerHeks> you will need to open with sudo
[14:00] <IniGit> OerHeks: This file has more then 7k lines. How do I know what messages are from the last boot?
[14:00] <OerHeks> the whole log is
[14:00] <leeyaa> hello
[14:01] <IniGit> OerHeks: But in the black console I do not get so many messages, just maybe 20 or 30
[14:01] <IniGit> OerHeks: I would like to see those messages only
[14:01] <OerHeks> IniGit, hard to believe, there are tons of lines, and you claimed it went too fast, so it must be more than one screen
[14:02] <IniGit> OerHeks: It is about a half screen of messages. But how do I get errors only from this log?
[14:02] <IniGit> OerHeks: I would like to know if everything is fine, because I also get an error at shutdown
[14:02] <albech> anyone know how to push dns servers obtained from openvpn lease as the primary dns servers? this problem was introduced with 17.08 with systemd. In 16.04 the problem was fixed by disabling dnsmasq. as you can see the dns is passed on to the client, it just doesnt get queried. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nJWbTkW4Hs/ i can dig at the two dns's manually.
[14:02] <IniGit> OerHeks: SO I want to check if at boot everything is fine
[14:02] <IniGit> OerHeks: ANd then go to the shutdown error
[14:03] <OerHeks> i have never seen shutdown error in the boot.log
[14:03] <OerHeks> i think you need dmesg or journalctrl -b 0
[14:04] <IniGit> OerHeks: no, but how do I get boot errors only, without all other logs?
[14:04] <OerHeks> no?
[14:04] <OerHeks> oh
[14:05] <IniGit> OerHeks: First I want to check for boot errors, I know that I will not find shutdown errors in boot.log :)
[14:06] <tijn> lotuspsychje, well tried lightdm: Same. Unity works, Gnome (also on Xorg) fails en throws me back to the login screen
[14:07] <IniGit> OerHeks: I think I found a useful tool it's called Logs
[14:07] <IniGit> [drm:generic_reg_wait [amdgpu]] *ERROR* REG_WAIT timeout 10us * 3000 tries - dce110_stream_encoder_dp_blank line:935
[14:07] <IniGit> that is my error
[14:07] <IniGit> during shutdown
[14:10] <TJ-> IniGit: a bit late but, for problems only: "journalctl -b -p warning" will show all messages of severity warning or worse
[14:11] <TJ-> IniGit: "-b" is the same as "-b 0" and means 'current boot'. You can also do things like "-b -1" meaning the immediately previous boot, or "-b -3" for the 3rd most recent boot, and so on
[14:11] <IniGit> TJ-: Thx
[14:12] <IniGit> TJ-: How do I get errors only?
[14:12] <TJ-> IniGit: you'll generally find that "-p warning" is sufficient because what you refer to as errors the kernel may class only as warnings. Generally you shouldn't expect to see more than about 10 warnings or worse
[14:13] <IniGit> TJ-: I see a ton of white warning and around 20 errors
[14:14] <TJ-> IniGit: "-p err" for errors and worse. See "man journalctl" and search for "--priority" for all the options
[14:14] <IniGit> TJ-: the list is 2000 lines long
[14:14] <IniGit> TJ-: journalctl -b -p err is 35 lines long
[14:17] <TJ-> IniGit: you can psatebinit so we can see
[14:18] <Haris> hello all
[14:18] <Haris> what's the pkg name for ipsec vpn on 16.x?
[14:19] <IniGit> TJ-: one moment
[14:20] <IniGit> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CR5qGScR9B/
[14:21] <IniGit> It seems like the "Couldn't get size: 0x800000000000000e" error is a bug related to dual boot
[14:21] <Haris> any tutorial for ipsec vpn client for 16.x?
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> !patience | Haris
[14:34] <OerHeks> Haris, this guide looks reasonable https://help.vpntunnel.com/support/solutions/articles/5000756386-vpntunnel-ipsec-installation-guide-for-ubuntu-16-04
[14:35] <Haris> I think 14.x came with its own client. in which we could easily create ipsec client to site connection and work with it. now most tutorials point to using strongswan
[14:37] <guest-qzmowo_> fddsa
[14:37] <guest-qzmowo_> hello guys
[14:37] <guest-qzmowo_> hello?
[14:38] <guest-qzmowo_> HELLO YOR FUKCING PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:38] <guest-qzmowo_> WRITE BACK
[14:38] <OerHeks> no
[14:40] <lince6> Hello, I have created a web app to deploy LAMP and other apps in Ubuntu in 1 click, would anybody like to try it ? I would really appreciate some feedback - https://installvps.com
[14:40] <OerHeks> lince6, wrong channel, ask in ##linux perhaps?
[14:41] <lince6> I can not access linux as it seems to be only accesible with an invitation
[14:42] <OerHeks> too bad, you need to register
[14:42] <Haris> thank you all
[14:43] <TJ-> IniGit: looks like the amdgpu issue is https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103949
[14:46] <IniGit> TJ-: Looks like it's not fixed
[14:47] <TJ-> IniGit: would be a good idea to create an Ubuntu bug report and link that ^^^ to it
[14:48] <IniGit> TJ-: you mean post an answer there that I also have the same issue or open a new bug report?
[14:51] <TJ-> IniGit: report it in the Ubuntu bug-tracker which has an option to link to upstream bug reports. That way, if the upstream report gets solved our bug-tracker will be updated so we know
[14:51] <TJ-> !bug | IniGit
[14:52] <TJ-> IniGit: In this case the package to report it against is 'linux'
[14:53] <IniGit> TJ-: How do I know if it is against Linux or Ubuntu?
[14:53] <IniGit> TJ-: in the future
[14:54] <tijn> lotuspsychje, think i found it. The shell extension 'workspace swithcer' seems to be the cullprit. Removed it (among others) and i can use gnome again!
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> !yay | tijn
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> tijn: time for a !bug?
[14:55] <TJ-> IniGit: discovering reports against other distros; but generally for this kind of issue it is unlikely to be Ubuntu-specific
[14:55] <tijn> Haha thanks!
[14:59] <tijn> Yes, last commit: 5 nov 2018.. I'm going to check if it really is this extension (think so). However: it would be nice that one wonky extension did not have the power to screw up everything :)
[15:10] <IniGit> TJ-: You mean this* can be linked to a bug on launchpad? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103949
[15:11] <IniGit> TJ-: if so, how? There is already a bugreport on this bug on launchpad, but how can I link this freedesktop thread to it?
[15:23] <core7> My ubuntu at this boot says -> Failed to connect to lvmetad
[15:26] <verno> hello, how can you change the notification service? I'd like to do dunst, but there is no freedesktop.Notifications.service .
[15:34] <Emery> How well does Ubuntu handle 2 different GPUs, can I use my idle GPU for certain tasks like Windows or no?
[15:37] <cryptodan> Emery: what tasks?
[15:58] <GewJi> how do I get into ubuntu command line only fromgrub2?
[16:00] <tomreyn> GewJi: you mean a shell? on the fully booted or single-user (init/runlevel 1)-like system?
[16:00] <tomreyn> GewJi: alternatively, explain more about what you are trying to achieve
[16:01] <OerHeks> you alread asked in ##linux, installed gnome shell extention, that dimms everything https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1413/screen-dimmer/
[16:33] <n3tburst> Hi, i'm having problems with the laptop display after upgrading from 18.04 to 18.10. Only external monitors work. During upgrade, I got warnings about possible missing firmware
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> n3tburst: can you recall what kind of firmware it was about?
[16:38] <n3tburst> lotuspsychje, saw a bunch of vega
[16:39] <n3tburst> but it scrolled so fast i didnt see everything
[16:39] <albech> anyone know how to push dns servers obtained from openvpn lease as the primary dns servers? this problem was introduced with 17.08 with systemd. In 16.04 the problem was fixed by disabling dnsmasq. as you can see the dns is passed on to the client, it just doesnt get queried. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nJWbTkW4Hs/ i can dig at the two dns's manually.
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> n3tburst: can you check if your graphics drivers are loaded? sudo lshw -C video
[16:42] <n3tburst> configuration: driver=amdgpu latency=0 (product: Baffin [Radeon RX 460/560D / Pro 450/455/460/555/560])
[16:42] <n3tburst> hmm missing vega firmware shouldn't affect me then
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> n3tburst: allright, that looks loaded
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> n3tburst: system up to date also?
[16:42] <n3tburst> yepp
[16:42] <TJ-> n3tburst: try "journalctl -b -p warning"
[16:44] <FurretUber> I am trying to install the debug symbols package for libspice-server1, but libspice-server1 version is 0.14.0-1ubuntu2.2 while libspice-server1-dbgsym version is 0.14.0-1ubuntu2. How do I get the newer version for the dbgsym package?
[16:46] <n3tburst> lotuspsychje, there are a lot of output, anything in particular to look for? 2 sec, will post pastebin
[16:46] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/libspice-server1-dbgsym/0.14.0-1ubuntu2.2
[16:47] <ioria> n3tburst, do you have for by chance another kernel available ? like 4.15 something ?  (ls /boot)
[16:48] <TJ-> FurretUber: "apt update" to fetch the latest package lists
[16:52] <rootroot> hello
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | rootroot
[16:53] <n3tburst> i do have 4.15
[16:53] <n3tburst> https://pastebin.com/akdsm33n
[16:54] <SuperLag> Any way to fix the Dock being hidden when auto-hide is set to "Off"?
[16:54] <FurretUber> Tj-: It has no newer version available. It seems the libspice-server1 is from security but the ddebs hasn't the security packages
[16:54] <SuperLag> I'm on 18.04.1
[16:55] <FurretUber> Is there a way to add the dbgsym for the -security packages?
[16:55] <TJ-> FurretUber: --> "libspice-server1-dbgsym/bionic-updates 0.14.0-1ubuntu2.2 amd64"
[16:56] <TJ-> FurretUber: do you not have the bionic-updates pocket enabled?
[16:56] <SuperLag> TJ-: pocket? :D
[16:57] <n3tburst> xrandr says: xrandr: Output eDP is not disconnected but has no modes
[16:57] <TJ-> SuperLag: yes; that is what the different package lists are called
[16:57] <OerHeks> FurretUber, or held back updates block this, run apt full-upgrade
[16:57] <SuperLag> TJ-: interesting. I'd never heard that terminology before.
[16:58] <FurretUber> I think ddebs has only bionic enabled, I'll correct this, give me a moment
[16:58] <TJ-> n3tburst: Looks like you're seeing the same issue as IniGit hit earlier:  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103949
[16:59] <TJ-> n3tburst: You've got other issues too of course; that's the last one
[16:59] <SuperLag> Okay. So no funky settings. "dconf dump /org/gnome/shell/extensions/dash-to-dock/" only shows 'dock-fixed=true' and 'dash-max-icon-size=32'. But the dock is still not visible unless I press the Super key.
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> SuperLag: you could check settings with dconf-editor too maybe
[17:02] <n3tburst> TJ, thanks for the pointer
[17:03] <n3tburst> maybe i should just boot up an older kernel and check if it persists
[17:03] <ioria> n3tburst, yes
[17:03] <ioria> n3tburst, might be a regression
[17:03] <n3tburst> allright, thanks guys. giving it a try
[17:04] <n3tburst> ioria yeah
[17:04] <ioria> n3tburst, try the 4.15
[17:04] <n3tburst> ioria yup, brb
[17:04] <ioria> ok
[17:07] <FurretUber> TJ-: Adding bionic-updates it worked, thank you
[17:07] <n3tburst> yup, its a regression alright
[17:07] <n3tburst> on 4.15 now and it magically works again
[17:08] <n3tburst> doh
[17:08] <ioria> n3tburst, i' d try 4.20
[17:09] <n3tburst> ioria, how do i install out of tree kernels?
[17:09] <ioria> n3tburst, are you familiar with Mainline kernels ?
[17:10] <n3tburst> ioria cant say i am
[17:10] <ioria> n3tburst, just take a look here : https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.20/   and here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds
[17:11] <ioria> n3tburst,  maybe TJ-  can provide  one magical 'no sweat' script  :þ
[17:12] <Oderus> hi. i have a large directory of files, which the first 7 characters of the file names need to be removed. they are individually numbered "0001 - " then the file name. not sure how to accomplish this since each file is different i cant use a string. how can i do this?
[17:12] <ZaZaQR> hello
[17:12] <n3tburst> ioria thanks, i'll dig into it
[17:13] <ioria> n3tburst, ok
[17:15] <n3tburst> gotta go. cheers!
[17:17] <TJ-> !info rename | Oderus this perl tool is generally used, e.g. "rename 's/^.{7}//' path/to/files*.patttern " - but do test it on disposable files first!!
[17:18] <seven-eleven> hi
[17:18] <seven-eleven> how do i change the hostname permanently?
[17:18] <seven-eleven> i tried `hostnamectl set-hostname my_hostname`, then I changed /etc/hosts hostname occurences the new one. when I relogin it shows the new hostname but once i reboot it shows the old one
[17:19] <TJ-> seven-eleven: edit /etc/hostname
[17:19] <seven-eleven> TJ-, hmm shows also the new
[17:19] <seven-eleven> let me reboot and see again
[17:20] <TJ-> seven-eleven: hmmm, that is strange then
[17:20] <seven-eleven> TJ-, it's a virtual machine
[17:21] <seven-eleven> hmm didnt work again
[17:21] <seven-eleven> let me check its xml file
[17:22] <ioria> seven-eleven, if cloud , check /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg
[17:22] <seven-eleven> ok
[17:22] <ioria> seven-eleven, 'preserve' option true/false
[17:22]  * seven-eleven rebooting
[17:24] <seven-eleven> ioria, yep that did the job
[17:24] <seven-eleven> thanks!!
[17:24] <ioria> seven-eleven, ok
[17:27] <oft_gegong> which version of packages of nethack do you guys install to play nethack-like game?
[17:28] <oft_gegong> Like for console web browsers there's links, links2, and elinks. I prefer mostly elinks.
[17:30] <oft_gegong> there's nethack-console, nethack-x11, slashem, and gtk/x11/sdl versions of slashem
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> oft_gegong: we have a nice nethack snap if you want
[17:31] <oft_gegong> aw snap! </just kidding>  hmm I'm not sure
[17:33] <oft_gegong> I'm gonna try the nethack-console package and report back
[17:38] <oft_gegong> I love it! it works. thx anyways lotuspsychje. poor snap
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> welcome oft_gegong and thank the snap maintainer too :p
[17:42] <Blueking> what's cheapest 10 gbit nic supporting vlan tagging ? (pci-e)
[17:45] <lordcirth_> Blueking, what do you mean by "supporting vlan tagging"? I don't recall ever seeing a NIC that didn't.
[17:46] <lordcirth_> It's just another packet
[17:48] <Blueking> lordcirth_ how about this one ? https://www.asus.com/no/Networking/XG-C100C/
[17:49] <lordcirth_> Blueking, I'm not an expert on hardware details, but I don't think the NIC actually reads / does anything with VLAN tags?
[17:49] <lordcirth_> Bits go in, bits go out
[17:50] <lordcirth_> I could be wrong, though. I don't think I've actually tried using VLANs at home on retail hardware
[17:53] <lordcirth_> hmm, seems I might be wrong
[17:55] <\dev\cache> Hi, anyone aware of any sort of application I can use to use socks on applications that dont natively supports socks5 support?, such as SocksCap/Proxifier for windows?
[17:59] <ioria> \dev\cache, probably redsocks ?
[18:04] <dcl0wn> hi there!
[18:04] <dcl0wn> i have an issue with ICMPv6
[18:04] <oft_gegong> heeeyyyyyyy. so you need help with ping6?
[18:04] <dcl0wn> ive turned ipv6 off
[18:05] <oft_gegong> k
[18:05] <dcl0wn> but my firewall s still getting inputs from my box
[18:05] <\dev\cache> ioria: redsocks is outdated..
[18:05] <oft_gegong> well that's impossible
[18:05] <dcl0wn> id think so but hey
[18:05] <oft_gegong> are you pinging with an ipv4 address?
[18:06] <dcl0wn> yep
[18:06] <oft_gegong> maybe it's one of those kernel-layer network-layer pings
[18:06] <HarlinS> blacksocks ... socks for haX0rz
[18:06] <dcl0wn> hm
[18:06] <oft_gegong> well if you turned ipV6 off and you're pinging with an IPv4 address, that sounds normal
[18:07] <dcl0wn> i dont know what the fck it is, but it is anoying big time
[18:07] <theluckymike> .
[18:08] <oft_gegong> I agree with luckymike
[18:08] <SheepMaester> Is there any reasonable way that I can "alias" certain IP addresses for use with ssh, scp and other? For example, `ssh work` and boom (instead of the much more tedious ssh sheepmaester@89.blablabla).
[18:08] <dcl0wn> thing is that I havent event connected to any networks yet, but just with cable attached - ICMPv6 seems to be doing its thing
[18:09] <oft_gegong> ooooh you're using wireshark and it's showing there are ICMPv6 packets going through?
[18:09] <lordcirth_> SheepMaester, https://www.howtogeek.com/75007/stupid-geek-tricks-use-your-ssh-config-file-to-create-aliases-for-hosts/
[18:09] <dcl0wn> my firewall logs it
[18:09] <dcl0wn> without shark
[18:10] <oft_gegong> I think ICMPv6 packets can do both ICMPv4 and ICMPv6 packets through virtual packeting I'm 3% sure
[18:10] <ioria> \dev\cache, there is a snap version of shadowsocks, (2.9.1-2)
[18:11] <OerHeks> nice find, lordcirth_
[18:11] <SheepMaester> lordcirth_: How wonderful. Thank you, beyond words. To think that it's taken me 3 months of googling to finally admit defeat and just ask. I fell quite... not so clever.
[18:11] <dcl0wn> any ideas how to get that(whatever) thing to stop flooding ?
[18:12] <dcl0wn> how do i rip ipv6 out of my box
[18:12] <lordcirth_> SheepMaester, to be honest, I googled "ssh config alias" and it was the first result
[18:13] <\dev\cache> ioria: will checkcout shadowsocks
[18:13] <SheepMaester> lordcirth_: Please imagine a facepalm for me if you will. I did try "ip alias" though, but I drowned in weird router configuration instructions.
[18:14] <lordcirth_> SheepMaester, you could also have used /etc/hosts, but that might have had unintended side effects
[18:14] <oft_gegong> dcl0wn: so what is your ethernet connected to, just another computer? a modem? a router? these CISCO things have books written about them that nobody reads that has some complex introspection of its own existence that can cause things like IPv6 pings
[18:16] <dcl0wn> ah nevermind
[18:17] <SheepMaester> lordcirth_: For the sake of my education, reading up on that now. I now have two new solutions in the span of 5 minutes. I'll use the healthier one of course.
[18:33] <shibboleth> 4.15.0-44 causing breakage, who can i talk to?
[18:35] <oft_gegong> shibboleth: if you unpack the package you can get the contact of the package maintainer through email or whatever (ie. like a website). Good luck! I'm guessing there is a 4-13% chance it'll work.
[19:05] <Oderus> hi. i have a large directory of files, which the first 7 characters of the file names need to be removed. they are individually numbered "0001 - " then the file name. not sure how to accomplish this since each file is different i cant use a string. how can i do this?
[19:05] <TJ-> Oderus: I answered that earlier; did you miss it?
[19:06] <Oderus> TJ-: Oh I must have! let me look above. Just finised scrolling through ty
[19:06] <TJ-> !info rename | Oderus this perl tool is generally used, e.g. "rename 's/^.{7}//' path/to/files*.patttern " - but do test it on disposable files first!!
[19:08] <Oderus> TJ-: Thank you, i will check the documentation after install, see if i can figure out a command! :)
[19:08] <TJ-> Oderus: I gave you what I think is the correct command :)
[19:09] <TJ-> Oderus: it's a regexp, anchored on the start of the name, matches any character, repeated exactly 7 times
[19:09] <Oderus> TJ-: oh ok!!!! thanks!!!
[19:09] <TJ-> Oderus: test first though, please!
[19:10] <oft_gegong> what has great power can do powerful things
[19:11] <TJ-> oft_gegong: works here. Use "-n" to test without making changes to your actual files
[19:11] <TJ-> grrr, tab completeQ
[19:11] <TJ-> Oderus: "rename -n 's/^.{7}//' *.txt" works here. Use "-n" to test without making changes to your actual files
[19:12] <elfrederich> Hi, I'm curious how installing python3-pip makes pip available for both python3.6 and python3.7 at the same time.  Anyone know how this works?  As far as I know both python3.6 and python3.7 have separate site-packages directories.
[19:12] <teward> elfrederich: i'm confused, where do you have Python 3.7 installed?  (That sounds like something 'unusual' here)
[19:12] <alireza> Hello, I'm new to Ubuntu, I have a question about privacy. Is Ubuntu now privacy respecting?
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> alireza: privacy how?
[19:13] <elfrederich> teward: python3.7 is available to install on Ubuntu 18.04 without adding extra repos or anything.  I think by default it has 3.6 installed but 3.7 is available
[19:13] <alireza> lotuspsychje: Does it track people or monitor my activities?
[19:14] <Oderus> TJ-: I made a directory and copied a sample of 100 files to test. Works wonderfully! Thank you so much, saved me a lot of headache!
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> alireza: privacy has really alot of different influences from all sides, perhaps discuss it at #ubuntu-discuss
[19:15] <root2> hello there!
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | root2
[19:15] <root2> oh well
[19:16] <alireza> Can you answer me please?
[19:16] <Oderus> alireza: As far as I am aware, it always has been
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> alireza: there is no really easy answer to that in my opinion
[19:17] <Kyrindor> .hey, I've run kubuntu 18.10 with nvidia 390 driver. My problem is the tearing of the graphic card. Now I look for a solution.
[19:17] <alireza> I remember in 2013 Ubuntu had Amazon trackers and issues. I know they removed those trackers but is there something new?
[19:17] <shibboleth> TJ-, ping
[19:18] <TJ-> shibboleth: ?
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | Kyrindor
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> Kyrindor: try another driver as a test
[19:18] <shibboleth> 4.15.0-44 will break things for a lot of users, some if which might not know how to resolve the issue
[19:18] <alireza> I don't use Windows anymore, I want to assure that I'm using something right
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> alireza: come in #ubuntu-discuss please
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> alireza: this channel is for ubuntu support, not discussions
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> shibboleth: please dont make general statements like that here
[19:20] <shibboleth> it isn't specific to my setup
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> shibboleth: focus on your issue instead
[19:21] <TJ-> shibboleth: point is to the bug report
[19:21] <TJ-> s/is/us/
[19:21] <shibboleth> it will affect four years of laptops from a specific vendor
[19:21] <shibboleth> i tried #kernel, but no one there
[19:22] <shibboleth> ub-kernel even
[19:22] <cwebb> hi all i am new to ubuntu i am looking for some help if possible
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> !ask | cwebb
[19:25] <cwebb>  iam trying to make a home cloud server with next cloud but struggling with it
[19:27] <Euthanatos> I
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> cwebb: there are some nextcloud snaps if you like
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> shibboleth: as TJ- mentioned, you have a bug url for this?
[19:28] <shibboleth> i'm here
[19:28] <stacks88> when installing ubuntu 18.04, on a remote server, the partitions are: /boot, / and swap space.. so /boot is 512mb.. and the most of the space has gone to / -- but my question is, when the kernel upgrades via apt, where does that go? the vmlinuz files and such.. does it go in /boot ? or would it count as going under / ? i set /boot to 25gb just in case
[19:28] <shibboleth> and can help you nail down the issue in real time
[19:28] <Ben64> shibboleth: you haven't given any detail at all
[19:28] <shibboleth> move to #kernel?
[19:28] <Ben64> nah
[19:28] <arooni> my mlocate database is 1gb is this a normal size?  also what is it for
[19:29] <cwebb> lotuspsycje: i tried them and they failed for me and tried it manuly with some of the how to but for some reason myqsl comes up with errors
[19:29] <Euthanatos> I'm on 18.04.  I broke my laptop.  I am still able to get into the hard drive from a new ubuntu.  Got most of my data out which was highly important.  One thing I'm missing is an OpenGPG.  ANyone know how I can go dig up key I used to have to use it on the new OS I'll built?
[19:30] <arooni> also my /var/log/journal is 1gb
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> cwebb: check this: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-nextcloud-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[19:30] <qwebirc99570> hi, I have a problem. I live in Pakistan and the mirror that the ubuntu installer automatically selects is of nayatel which according to the launchpad mirror information hasn't been updated for quite a while. Now, I have searched a lot but there is not any way of changing the mirror during installation. What do I do now?
[19:32] <TJ-> Euthanatos: should be found under /home/<user>/.gnupg/
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99570: you could install ubuntu without updates, then change your sources afterwards perhaps?
[19:32] <arooni> is that a normal journal size?
[19:33] <stacks88> does ubuntu 18.04 have livepatch that works good enough to where you truly dont have to reboot, for kernel upgrades? or are reboots still necessary
[19:33] <cwebb> lotuspsychje: thanks what is docker ? and is it free
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> stacks88: you can enable livepatch yes
[19:34] <qwebirc99570> lotuspsychje:  well, I have tried selecting a different location (the timezone thing) and that it chooses the main server or the us mirror and then changing the timezone afterwards. But would that have any harm? Like would some packages be missing?
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> stacks88: check your software&sources
[19:34] <TJ-> arooni: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db? I see ~25MB, /var/log/journal/ ~ 850MB
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99570: i would go for your own timezones/language and after install try to change sources to US for example
[19:35] <arooni> TJ-: is there a problem with putting max size of journal to 100M?  not sure what its there for (http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2017/201/Journalctl)
[19:35] <arooni> TJ-: TJ- -rw-r----- 1 root mlocate 1.4G Jan 28 13:01 mlocate.db
[19:35] <blackflow> arooni: that's what I do, no problems. I like to keep the journal short and volatile, and forward logs to syslog for on-disk storage
[19:35] <arooni> does that seem high?
[19:36] <TJ-> arooni: it is the system-wide logs recorded by systemd-journald, viewable using journalctl
[19:36] <qwebirc99570> lotuspsychje: okay, but then what about the missing packages like codecs etc and other stuff that ubuntu downloads during installation
[19:36] <arooni> TJ-: i know about syslog and dmesg; not sure what journalctl is for.  or really the difference between those types of logs
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99570: what is missing, can be installed afterwards too
[19:36] <TJ-> arooni: 1.4GB looks large but it depends on what you've indexed of course!
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99570: codecs for example: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:36] <arooni> TJ-: so is that for handling queries like    find . -iname "*$argv*"
[19:37] <TJ-> arooni: systemd-journald is *the* system logger. rsylogd takes a feed from it for other log files under /var/log/
[19:37] <arooni> TJ-: so it generates syslog / dmesg / and others?
[19:38] <qwebirc99570> lotuspsychje: that's it? Will I be missing anything else (lets say from a person who installs with updates turned on) during install
[19:38] <TJ-> arooni: no, 'find' searches the file-system. mlocate/locate are used for the mlocate.db which is created via updatedb
[19:39] <blackflow> and you can configure what is indexed by daily updatedb runs
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99570: yes of course, alot of new updates will be missing, but nothing a sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade cant fix :p
[19:40] <qwebirc99570> lotuspsychje: and should I connect to the internet during install or not?
[19:40] <qwebirc99570> lotuspsychje: and what about selecting the option install restricted properiatry software (tick or not)?
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99570: you just said your sources are bad?
[19:41] <qwebirc99570> lotuspsychje: yes i did
[19:41] <arooni> TJ-: blackflow so essentially mlocate could be a faster way to find files since they're already indexed?
[19:41] <TJ-> arooni: you can use '"journalctl --vacuum-size=..." to limit disk usage, see "man journalctl"
[19:42] <blackflow> arooni: probably, I never benchmarked them
[19:42] <arooni> blackflow: so find command isnt using any kind of index; its just beginning a search from scratch right
[19:43] <arooni> is mlocate part of ubuntu or an optional tool
[19:43] <qwebirc99570> lotuspsychje: so I should connect to the internet? And tick that option install properiatary software? You told me to install without checking the updates option but what about that properiatary codecs thing
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99570: you already asked about the codecs, and i replyed that
[19:44] <qwebirc99570> so I should not tick that?
[19:44] <qwebirc99570> lotuspsychje: that means i should not connect to the internet as well?
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99570: the users choice
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99570: do you want to connect the internet with bad sources?
[19:45] <Euthanatos> TJ- spot on thank you much
[19:45] <qwebirc99570> lotuspsychje: of course not
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99570: you have your answer?
[19:46] <qwebirc99570> lotuspsychje: yeah, thanks. Well and i just need to update and upgrade and install ubuntu-restricted-extras? I won't need anything else right?
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc99570: correct! also talk to the #ubuntu-mirrors guys about your bad sources perhaps?
[19:48] <qwebirc99570> okay, well looks like i can't talk on that channel. I already tried.
[19:58] <arooni>  /join #wallabag
[20:15] <ed__> Hello, I'm using `do-release-upgrade` to go from 14->16->18.04(currently on 16->18.04) and it seems stuck on "a start job is running for LVM2 PV scan`
[20:15] <ed__> switches between that and `monitoring of the LVM2 mirr...`? Has been running for 14 min / no limit. Is this supposed to take al ong time
[20:16] <ed__> I just did the same upgrade on another server with far less data. Is this dependent upon how much data you have on the server for some reason?
[20:18] <lordcirth_> ed__, is there a reason that reinstalling would be difficult?
[20:19] <lordcirth_> Jumping 2 LTS's might be better accomplished by a reinstall
[20:20] <ioria> ed__,  have you an upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 in progress atm ?
[20:21] <ed__> ioria: yes I think I just killed it though attempting a reboot
[20:22] <ioria> ed__,  so you aborted it ?
[20:22] <ed__> yes but I think it mostly installed. It was starting jobs near the end I think
[20:22] <ioria> ed__,  have you rebooted ?
[20:23] <ed__> it's booting now
[20:23] <ioria> ok
[20:24] <ioria> ed__,  i guess you have an encrypted system ? luks + lvm ?
[20:25] <ed__> ioria: yes, it's encrypted using lvm pretty sure luks but not familiar with that
[20:25] <ioria> ed__,  does it boots ?
[20:25] <ed__> first attempt didn't work got what looks like a stack trace
[20:26] <aldcor> an
[20:26] <ioria> ed__,  not good
[20:26] <ed__> not at all :(
[20:26] <robertparkerx> if I install ireadmail, will it overwrite my existing conf and settings for apache, mysql, etc.
[20:27] <robertparkerx> I have a lamp stack already
[20:28] <Jack_Bauer> Is there any way to swap source and destination IP coming into an interface?
[20:29] <Jack_Bauer> basically I want to loop traffic on an interface
[20:33] <ed__> ioria: it's crashing after grub menu(in kernel). I assume try safe mode and finish installs via `dpkg`?
[20:33] <ioria> ed__,  yes.... you can try
[20:33] <TJ-> ed__: do you get prompted for the LUKS passphrase before it hangs?
[20:34] <ioria> ed__,   gurb->advanced->recovery->dpkg
[20:34] <EagleScreen> Hi
[20:34] <ed__> it crashes before prompt. Just got the prompt though on older 4.4.x kernel though. I think this will boot
[20:34] <EagleScreen> Which Gnome extension uses Ubuntu 18.10 for the left dock?
[20:34] <ed__> it booted on older kernel
[20:35] <TJ-> ed__: it may be the initrd.img for the more recent kernel is misconfigured in some way. In that case be careful *NOT* to allow the older kernel's initrd.img to be updated
[20:35] <ed__> So it booted on the 4.4 kerenel(4.15 won't boot) and it says it's ubuntu 18.04.1 now
[20:35] <ioria> ed__,  cat /etc/issue   and check /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:36] <ioria> ed__,  then check apt-cache policy linux-generic
[20:37] <TJ-> ed__: does the system have a separate /boot/ file-system? If so, check it hasn't run out of free space ("df -h /boot" )
[20:38] <_Sym_> On Ubuntu 18.04, I originally installed a few gnome shell extensions with apt. I am wondering if I should upgrade the shell extensions from https://extensions.gnome.org/local/ or only upgrade the extensions from apt
[20:38] <ed__> ioria: https://pastebin.com/JaHwGKZB
[20:38] <ioria> ed__,  that ^ and check the dpkg status of the 4.15 kernel :  dpkg -l | grep 4.15
[20:39] <ed__> 98M free of 237
[20:39] <ioria> ed__,    dpkg -l | grep 4.15
[20:39] <ed__> TJ-: so is it safe to run something like `grub-update` or does that mess with the initrd.img?
[20:40] <mantovani_> Can I use an environment variable inside /etc/apt/apt.conf file ?
[20:40] <TJ-> ed__: "update-grub" is fine, it re-writes /boot/grub/grub.cfg based on /etc/default/grub and the scripts in /etc/grub.d/
[20:40] <ed__> https://pastebin.com/PaJHEAm4
[20:40] <mantovani_> I tried $VARIABLE and $(VARIABLE) didn't work.
[20:40] <ed__> a bunch of iU ones
[20:41] <ioria> ed__,   sudo apt update
[20:41] <TJ-> mantovani_: no, see "man apt.conf"
[20:41] <ed__> ioria: it's updating ....
[20:42] <TJ-> ioria:  ed__  looks like it needs "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[20:42] <ioria> TJ-, yep
[20:42] <ed__> yes, that is running
[20:43] <ioria> ed__,  wait; first you should try sudo apt full-upgrade (it willsuggest the --fix install)
[20:43] <ed__> the dpkg one is running already
[20:43] <ioria> oky
[20:43] <mantovani_> TJ-: I didn't find it
[20:44] <ed__> Seems to be continuing the upgrade. Just got similar sshd config change prompt that came up on the previous upgrade I did that worked on the first server
[20:44] <ioria> we are confident
[20:45] <ed__> ioria: the dpkg one finished alright. Removing old packages now the full-upgrade didn't have anything to fix
[20:45] <ioria> ed__,    dpkg -l | grep 4.15    again
[20:45] <ed__> bunch of ii ones
[20:46] <ioria> ed__,    ii is good
[20:46] <ed__> that's installed correctly right?
[20:46] <ioria> yup
[20:46] <ed__> awesome! Time for reboot attempt?
[20:46] <ioria> ed__,  are you in hurry ?
[20:46] <ed__> no
[20:47] <ioria> ed__,  ok;   sudo apt autoremove  (don't say 'y')
[20:47] <TJ-> ed__: is the system using encrypted /boot/ file-system (GRUB using LUKS encryption too) ?
[20:47] <ed__> TJ-: the /boot isn't encrypted but the root partition is
[20:48] <ioria> classic lvm+luks setup
[20:48] <TJ-> ed__: OK, so the initrd.img just has to have the cryptsetup tooling included
[20:48] <ed__> ioria: I just ran autoremove after the upgrade went through and it got rid of a bunch of packages
[20:48] <ed__> I lost my scrollback and don't have the list of removed packages sadly
[20:48] <ioria> ed__,  ok;  just be sure kernel 4.4 is stillinstalled and working
[20:49] <ed__> ii  linux-image-4.4.0-141-generic
[20:50] <ed__> there are 4.4.x files still in /boot too
[20:50] <ioria> ed__,  reboot (and we don't want stack call)
[20:50] <TJ-> ed__:  WOOA!!
[20:50]  * ed__ cross my fingers
[20:50] <TJ-> ed__: before you reboot pastebin us some hardware/log info while it is working!
[20:50] <ed__> TJ-: I hit the button already
[20:51] <TJ-> ed__: "pastebinit <( lspci -nn; lsusb; lsblk; journalctl -b )" ... oh well, lets hope!
[20:52] <ed__> I can pull hardware from other server at least they are exactly the same besides slightly different ssds on the one server
[20:52] <ed__> hopefully it boots though
[20:55] <ed__> got past luks prompt!
[20:55] <ed__> it worked!
[20:56] <ed__> TJ-: ioria hardware info :) https://pastebin.com/Si7CCH2i
[20:56] <ed__> thank you so much!
[20:56] <OerHeks> yay, kernel update 4.15.0.44.46
[21:22] <encrypted> hello
[21:23] <encrypted> have u got any starter guide for linux usage?
[21:23] <OerHeks> !manual
[21:23] <encrypted> thanks
[21:24] <OerHeks> and sure there are tons of websites with hints and tips, https://fullcirclemagazine.org/ omgubuntu.co.uk and such
[21:26] <gambl0r3> hello? anyone here use libreoffice calc?
[21:28] <OerHeks> LO calc is standard installed, hardly use it, there is #libreoffice here on #freenode too
[21:30] <matrim> Running i3, startx stopped working. Here's the xorg log file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pN8mg5CCrG/
[21:35] <Younder> matrim, That log said it was successfully terminated. Are you sure you didn't shut it down accidentally?
[21:37] <matrim> Younder, Tried many times, that would be weird. I also rebooted inbetween.
[21:39] <Younder> matrim, Seriously, there is not a single error in that log that I can see. Could it be something in a startup script?
[21:40] <epsilonKNOT> hey guys, I've been trying to install ubuntu on a macbook by replacing its os
[21:40] <matrim> Younder, I manually type in startx.
[21:40] <epsilonKNOT> had a quick question about how to make the bootable cd
[21:41] <epsilonKNOT> I downloaded the ubuntu iso and dd'ed it onto the usb
[21:41] <matrim> Younder, How do I startx applications? That would be a solution aswell.
[21:41] <epsilonKNOT> but I keep getting an error saying something like /boot/ not found
[21:41] <teward> epsilonKNOT: did you verify the ISO is valid?
[21:41] <epsilonKNOT> yep
[21:41] <martiansoul> epsilonKNOT: what do you mean by "dd'ed it onto the usb"?
[21:42] <epsilonKNOT> well macbooks don
[21:42] <epsilonKNOT> don't like grub
[21:42] <epsilonKNOT> you need to use efi booting
[21:42] <epsilonKNOT> so I did: dd if=ubunto.iso of /dev/sdX bs=1M
[21:42] <matrim> epsilonKNOT, Tried rEFInd? Think that's good for macbooks.
[21:42] <epsilonKNOT> so I did: dd if=ubunto.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M
[21:42] <epsilonKNOT> but rEFInd is if you want to dual boot
[21:43] <epsilonKNOT> I don't need that
[21:43] <matrim> epsilonKNOT, Okay, then grub should be fine. You get problems when booting the usb, right?
[21:45] <epsilonKNOT> yea
[21:45] <epsilonKNOT> my usb is not booting correctly
[21:45] <epsilonKNOT> which is weir
[21:46] <matrim> epsilonKNOT, You select it in the boot menu, right? There are usually different options there. Tried all of them?
[21:47] <Oderus> hi. trying to compress a large amount of files individually while retaining the filename. so far I have this $ find . -type f -execdir zip -m -9 '{}.zip' '{}' \;   however it will give me files called for example document1.doc.zip instead of document.zip. how can i change this command to accomplish that
[21:47] <matrim> Younder: So... What do I do. I don't have much time, I need this system working as soon as possible.
[21:47] <epsilonKNOT> I get to grub but before reaching there I get an error saying /boot not found
[21:48] <iomari> greetings, I have a 3 day old fresh install of kubuntu. All was perfect until a few hours ago. My network is a mess. Netplan no longer configures the network. Neither does networking nor Network Manager. My interface is showing No-CARRIER. ip and ifconfig can give it an IP but still NO_CARRIER.
[21:49] <iomari> If I wasn't bald, I'd be pulling my hair out.
[21:52] <TJ-> iomari: Wired interface?
[21:52] <TJ-> iomari: Dual boot with Windows?
[21:53] <martiansoul> Hi. I am not able to connect to irc on xchat. my ubuntu version is 18.04
[21:53] <martiansoul> can someone guide me through this?
[21:54] <martiansoul> it is showing: Tcl plugin for XChat - Version 1.64   Copyright 2002-2005 Daniel P. Stasinski  http://www.scriptkitties.com/tclplugin/  Tcl interface loaded  Perl interface loaded  Python interface loaded * Looking up irc.ubuntu.com * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (204.225.96.251) port 8001...
[22:03] <_Sym_> When I purge the gnome-shell-extension-dashtodock package, the keys still show up in dconf-editor.  But, when I try "dconf list /org/gnome/shell/extensions/", the dash-to-dock keys do not show up. Is the dconf database corrupted now?
[22:04] <OerHeks> _Sym_, i think you need to reboot to let it take full effect
[22:04] <Bilbo0> Not for the first time but previous time was a long time ago my screen freezes up with a messed up checker pattern and colors wildly off. The checker pattern consists of different wrong color schemes of the existing display. Just now my PC froze up again, it was black with red lines. after about 10 seconds my computer beeped and it went black, 10 seconds latter beep and red lines, 10 seconds latter, black with a white dash in the left hand
[22:04] <Bilbo0> corner, it kept beeping every 10 seconds or so with some minor graphic changes till I do a hard reset.
[22:04] <OerHeks> or logout/login perhgaps
[22:04] <_Sym_> I tried "dconf reset -f /org/gnome/shell/extensions/dash-to-dock/" but it doesnt help and I've rebooted several times
[22:04] <Bilbo0> Some system info https://pastebin.com/ubiqJkTb
[22:05] <OerHeks> Bilbo0, sounds like bad videocard or dirty fan, overheating
[22:06] <_Sym_> OerHeks, I just find it strange the the keys show up in dconf-editor and not when I list them with "dconf list"
[22:06] <_Sym_> reboot doesn't help
[22:06] <_Sym_> is there a way to repair it?
[22:06] <martiansoul> Hi. I am not able to connect to irc on xchat. my ubuntu version is 18.04
[22:07] <Bilbo0> OerHeks: How do I check my video card heat levels?
[22:07] <martiansoul> it is showing: Tcl plugin for XChat - Version 1.64   Copyright 2002-2005 Daniel P. Stasinski  http://www.scriptkitties.com/tclplugin/  Tcl interface loaded  Perl interface loaded  Python interface loaded * Looking up irc.ubuntu.com * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (185.30.166.37) port 6697..
[22:07] <OerHeks> i know there was something wrong with the dash-to-dock extention, but there should be a fix by now?
[22:07] <_Sym_> nope
[22:07] <martiansoul> any ideas what could be the problem?
[22:07] <_Sym_> not on 18.04 at least
[22:08] <OerHeks> Bilbo0, in your mint?
[22:08] <Bilbo0> yeah
[22:09] <OerHeks> lm sensors could show that, or the nvidia tool
[22:09] <Bilbo0> OerHeks: How do I use them?
[22:09] <OerHeks> but i keep off mint issues, they have their own problems
[22:09] <OerHeks> !mint
[22:10] <Bilbo0> OerHeks: For Ubuntu, how do you use a nvidia tool or lm sensor?
[22:10] <iomari> TJ- wired, not dual booting.
[22:12] <_Sym_> OerHeks, It seems like dash-to-dock package has corrupted ~/.config/dconf/user
[22:15] <TJ-> iomari: We've seen some situations where a wired interface will get stuck in power-saving mode. What chipset ID does the NIC have? "lspci -nn -d ::0200" ?
[22:16] <martiansoul> Hi. I am not able to connect to irc on xchat. my ubuntu version is 18.04. it is showing: Tcl plugin for XChat - Version 1.64   Copyright 2002-2005 Daniel P. Stasinski  http://www.scriptkitties.com/tclplugin/  Tcl interface loaded  Perl interface loaded  Python interface loaded * Looking up irc.ubuntu.com * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (204.225.96.251) port 8001... can someone help me through this?
[22:16] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: 'inxi' can also show the card temp.
[22:18] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: What is "Up~15:06"?
[22:19] <iomari> TJ- realtek RTL810xE
[22:19] <OerHeks> martiansoul, xchat is dead, use hexchat, a fork that is under development
[22:19] <martiansoul> OerHeks: okay. I didn't know that. thanks.
[22:20] <OerHeks> same look and feel, so not that much difference
[22:20] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: No idea --- what is the context of "Up~15:06" ?
[22:20] <martiansoul> OerHeks: okay. thanks.
[22:21] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: one of the outputs of inxi
[22:21] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om:  I don't see any card temp output from inxi
[22:22] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Up time ? maybe - what is the exact command you are running and I will compare to mine.
[22:22] <Bilbo0> Besides there's no pattern to these freeze ups, Ive run semi-demanding games and ive set with just browser and it doesnt matter. Actually I dont know if its even happened during gaming
[22:22] <TJ-> iomari: in the output of the command I gave you, what is the value at the end of the line in-between the square brackets e.g [vvvv:dddd]
[22:23] <Bilbo0> bashing "inxi" I put that in a terminal minus the quotes
[22:25] <iomari> TJ- [10ec:8136] (rev 02)
[22:25] <TJ-> iomari: thanks I'll look that up
[22:25] <iomari> TJ- ok thanks
[22:26] <martiansoul> OerHeks: i installed HexChat. it is still unable to connect to the freenode server.
[22:26] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: yup - uptime .. to see temps: ' inxi -F ; .. inxi is very powerful .. see ' man inxi ' for details.
[22:26] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om:  "inxi" I put that in a terminal minus the quotes
[22:27] <TJ-> iomari: That uses the "r8169" driver which claims many firmware files so I wonder if a firmware file is being missed out
[22:27] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: cpu: 31.5C mobo: 24.0C gpu: 25C Is that very high?
[22:27] <iomari> TJ- this problem started today. It was fine before then.
[22:28] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Nope .. runing cool :)
[22:28] <OerHeks> martiansoul, what if you dropped your current connection?
[22:28] <TJ-> iomari: are you able to copy off a log file using a USB device?
[22:28] <TJ-> iomari: or does the PC have an alternate (USb Wifi maybe) network device?
[22:28] <iomari> yes
[22:28] <martiansoul> OerHeks: i don't understand.
[22:28] <martiansoul> i mean reconnecting it still shows no improvement.
[22:28] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: Got any other ideas as to why these very random system freak outs?
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Freezing issue ? what release and is this Nvidia graphics ?
[22:29] <iomari> TJ- yes I can copy, no alternate device
[22:30] <iomari> TJ- as soon as I assign an IP, I get <NO_CARRIER
[22:30] <OerHeks> martiansoul, if you try to login with the same account onhexchat, what is hard to understand?
[22:30] <iomari> for my "ip a" output that is.
[22:30] <TJ-> iomari: Can you do "journalctl -b > /tmp/boot.log" then copy /tmp/boot.log off and pastebin it?
[22:30] <iomari> 1 sec ....
[22:31] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: GTX 750 Ti. Release of video card? Where my screen becomes a checkered mess of wrong colors and everything freezes up and last time where it went to a black screen with red lines with beeping every 10 seconds or so causing changes to the graphics
[22:33] <iomari> TJ- OK, I've done that, but since that machine has no network, how will I send it? I'm using another machine for this session.
[22:33] <TJ-> iomari: as I said, copy the file to a USb flash memory device and move it to a PC with network connectivity
[22:34] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Had freezing issues here with Nvidia card ... installing the correct proprietary driver fixed for me.
[22:34] <iomari> iomari: Sorry, I wasn't thinking. It's been a long day. 1 sec ............
[22:35] <martiansoul> OerHeks: yes i did try to login with the same account on hexchat. i entered first reference nickname and second and third. and put in the password in freenode. and put the login method as /MSG NICKSERV + Password
[22:36] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: But how do I know which ones are the correct ones? How do I even choose drivers, driver manager gives me a limited selection?
[22:36] <martiansoul> OerHeks: but it still shows connecting only.
[22:37] <hggdh> martiansoul:it should be /msg nickserv identify <password>
[22:37] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Let's look at what is now .. ( system is real smart if ya know what to ask), and we see what can be done. pastenin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[22:38] <OerHeks> i have slected: server password (/PASS password) option in the connection details
[22:38] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: Also I stopped updating my kernel a bit ago, I understand the kernel and proprietary drivers need to be updated together. Should I do that? Switch to generic, update kernal, get new driver?
[22:38] <OerHeks> so that it has time to auth, before joining selected channels
[22:39] <OerHeks> Bilbo0, sure, mint wants newer kernels too
[22:39] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: I have a small mind .. lets do this one step at a time .. for now we need to know what is or is not installed.
[22:40] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/ieHR7xDy
[22:40] <pi_> hi all - made a mistake: resized non-mounted sda2 via parted w/o resizing the filesystem first. Can I rescue the partition?
[22:42] <pi_> qhen trying to mount now it says:wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock....
[22:42] <iomari> TJ- https://pastebin.com/51xpfhmi
[22:45] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Looking .. any return from ' sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" ' ?
[22:45] <Bilbo0> OerHeks: I stopped updating the kernels since I figured what works don't change and more importantly my install got major messed up after a kernel update or something and it took alot to set it right since reverting kernels didn't work for some reason, at least at first. So i got a bit leery of new kernels. It was then I learned of the need to have generic drivers for some kernel updates because of the connection of the proprietary drivers
[22:45] <Bilbo0> and kernel versions
[22:46] <TJ-> iomari: you've changed something in the config, and it cannot be deciphered: "NetworkManager[943]: <warn>  [1548713788.0114] Can't parse iface line 'iface enp3s0'"
[22:47] <TJ-> iomari: that is for interface-parser: parsing file /etc/network/interfaces
[22:47] <iomari> TJ- which config?
[22:47] <iomari> I'm not using interfaces right now. I'm using NetworkManager
[22:48] <TJ-> iomari: But NM is reading that file, as the log shows, and finding an error
[22:48] <iomari> TJ- mabbe I should clear that file
[22:48] <iomari> maybe
[22:48] <TJ-> iomari: the PC also has Wifi, can that not be used?
[22:49] <iomari> TJ- exact same problem
[22:49] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*"   ?  find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
[22:49] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Installed properly now-a-days with DKMS updating the proprietary driver woth a new kernel should not be an issue . Ny the way Nvidia recommends the 410 driver: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/141700/en-us .
[22:51] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: I think I am using 384. So download 410 from that link? How do I install?
[22:51] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: Also, what if the kernel and driver don't match right? Or am I misunderstanding what I read of that issue?
[22:52] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Small mind here .. I want 1st to know that A OEM driver is not an issue '  sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" ' .
[22:52] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om:  I told you what it said - > find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
[22:54] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: I also asked if I got the command right -> sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*"
[22:54] <Bilbo0> That quote mark at the end belong there?
[22:55] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Ues the '"' closing " is required. testing here at this time.
[22:56] <TJ-> iomari: did you configure the wired interface using /etc/network/interfaces ?
[22:58] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: The find command runs here .. as In this install i run the nouvea driver I get the expected return to pronpt when the command completes.
[22:59] <iomari> TJ-  that was a while ago when I was using networkd. It didn't work so I switched to networkmanager.
[22:59] <TJ-> iomari: so you've added a network-manager connection for the Wired Connection ?
[22:59] <Bashing-om> !info nvidi-driver-390 bionic
[22:59] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-390 bionic
[23:00] <iomari> TJ- yes
[23:00] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-410 bionic
[23:00] <martiansoul> OerHeks: unable to connect on hexchat even after dropping this connection
[23:01] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: Fine but that doesn't leave me anything to go on. What exactly is the command suppose to do or tell us?
[23:03] <Oderus> hi. trying to compress a large amount of files individually while retaining the filename. so far I have this $ find . -type f -execdir zip -m -9 '{}.zip' '{}' \;   however it will give me files called for example document1.doc.zip instead of document.zip. how can i change this command to accomplish that
[23:03] <TJ-> iomari: The name is "inspired-lan" ?
[23:03] <iomari> TJ- yes, that's the lan config file
[23:03] <Bashing-om> boxmein: That will tell if a OEM driver is at play here .. else we clean up, purge. update .. and install the proprietary driver.
[23:04] <JFox762> anyone know what the official DDWRT channel is?
[23:04] <TJ-> iomari: if you tell NM to manually connect that connection does it? "nmcli con up inspired-lan" ?
[23:08] <energizer> how do i rename a vpn connection without gui?
[23:08] <energizer> using networkmanager
[23:08] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*"
[23:09] <TJ-> energizer: "man nmcli"
[23:09] <TJ-> energizer: or, use "nmtui" (Text User Interface)
[23:09] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: That command doesn't look any different. I copy pasted it anyway and got back the same result
[23:10] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: Also draw programs work buggy for me
[23:10] <Tin_man> JFox762, found this >> https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IRC_Channel_dd-wrt
[23:10] <Bilbo0> not sure if that's related
[23:10] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Ouch .. does not compute . I have no idea of what is broken in that regard.
[23:11] <energizer> TJ-: nmtui doesn't include my vpns for some reason
[23:11] <TJ-> energizer: ahhh, I forgot that. You'll have to use nmcli then
[23:13] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: what release is this ? As I expect that you presently have a partial install of a proprietary graphics driver. Nvidia has recently made extensive additions to what gets installed) .
[23:13] <Oderus> I suppose i could just use krename to fix them after using that zip line "find . -type f -execdir zip -m -9 '{}.zip' '{}' \;"
[23:14] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: Release of what?
[23:14] <JFox762> t
[23:14] <JFox762> hi
[23:14] <energizer> TJ-: i'm in nmcli interactive repl, i can't quite follow what's going on, is there a file i can just edit
[23:14] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Operating system. ' lsb_release -a ' .
[23:14] <JFox762> Does anyone know what command I can use to find out what IP Address is using a given port # on a router running linux?
[23:15] <Tin_man> JFox762, don't know if you seen this found this >> https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IRC_Channel_dd-wrt
[23:16] <OerHeks> JFox762, is that router running ubuntu?
[23:16] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: 16.04.1
[23:16] <JFox762> no
[23:16] <OerHeks> then you must find out the adapter id
[23:16] <OerHeks> oh
[23:16] <energizer> TJ-: oh i got it
[23:16] <energizer> TJ-: thank you
[23:16] <JFox762> it is running dd-wrt
[23:17] <martiansoul> OerHeks: unable to connect on hexchat even after dropping this connection
[23:17] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-390 xenial
[23:17] <TJ-> energizer: seems you can do "nmcli con modify id old-name connection.id new-name"
[23:17] <OerHeks> JFox762, you are crossposting in ##linux too, they can tell
[23:17] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-384 xenial
[23:18] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-384 xenial
[23:18] <OerHeks> martiansoul, odd, are you behind a proxy?
[23:18] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-390 xenial
[23:19] <martiansoul> OerHeks: i'm not sure. how to check that?
[23:19] <genii> Bashing-om: My xenial is showing nvidia-396 but from graphics-drivers PPA
[23:20] <martiansoul> OerHeks: because on the browser i am able to access this and on any other client i am unable to access irc. i even tried konversation and quassel irc
[23:20] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: ^^ yuk .. no later driver support in xenial .. lemme do some checking as to what we may be able to do.
[23:20] <Bashing-om> genii: My though too - see what our PPA offers in xenial :)
[23:20] <OerHeks> martiansoul, the person who installed ubuntu would know, echo $HTTP_PROXY
[23:20] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: What is xanial?
[23:21] <genii> Bilbo0: Xenial is version 16.04 of Ubuntu
[23:21] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: oh the ubuntu version? So I need to update the version
[23:21] <martiansoul> OerHeks: it echoes nothing.
[23:21] <OerHeks> firewall could also be the culprit, web chat works on port 80
[23:22] <_Sym_> OerHeks, I'll bet that the dconf keys for gnome-shell-extension-dashtodock can not be removed because it is somehow conflicting with gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock.
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: xenial is the 16.04 release code name. Lemme look at our PPA and see what is supported in 16.04.
[23:23] <martiansoul> OerHeks: okay. actually i just updated my system a few hours ago only. from 16.04 to 18.04
[23:23] <OerHeks> sudo ufw allow out 6667:7000/tcp
[23:25] <_Sym_> damn, that is it.
[23:25] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: Are you comfortable with using a PPA for the driver ? 396 version if in the PPA and I excpect it to work just fine.
[23:26] <martiansoul> OerHeks: did this: sudo ufw allow out 6667:7000/tcp still nothing
[23:27] <martiansoul> should i disconnect this session from browser and then open it on hexchat?
[23:27] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: fine if you instruct me, but I am still worried about the kernel thing
[23:29] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: DKMS will take care of the kernel/driver. However, when you release upgrade to 18.04 that PPA will need to be purged. We proceed to clean, purge update install on your go.
[23:30] <audiohack> hello
[23:30] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: What's DKMS? It's dynamic kernel module support.
[23:31] <audiohack> tryin to boot ubuntu studio 18.10 in vmware... hangs.
[23:31] <audiohack> any tip?
[23:32] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: I only understood a portion of that. Like what is "on my go". You mean updating to ubuntu 18.04?
[23:32] <martiansoul> OerHeks: also,the port which it is trying to connect is 6697
[23:34] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: If you are happy with 16.04 - stay with it .. we can try and fix 16.04 with the 396 version driver from our PPA .
[23:35] <tomreyn> audiohack: where does it hang?
[23:36] <audiohack> starting xfce
[23:36] <tomreyn> martiansoul: port 6697 requires a tls ("ssl") encrypted transport.
[23:36] <tomreyn> martiansoul: help with irc is usually available in #freenode
[23:37] <tomreyn> martiansoul: there is also #hexchat
[23:37] <tomreyn> audiohack: so before you login?
[23:37] <audiohack> yes
[23:38] <tomreyn> audiohack: so the issue is with the desktop manager, not xfce, which doesn't run at the time
[23:38] <Bashing-om> Bilbo0: I nust be away forn the keyboard for about 30 minutes or so .. I be back soonest.
[23:38] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: Happy, more right now installing new is a mess I don't have the time and setup to do at the moment
[23:38] <audiohack> tomreyn: any solution?
[23:39] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: Sure, i got a pharmacy thing that will take awhile, I might need to run in a bit and leave my PC on or something for your reply
[23:39] <fox64> ubuntu rocks!
[23:39] <Bilbo0> Bashing-om: I greatly appreciate your help, it would be nice not to have my system suddenly spaze like it thinks its Windows on blue screen on me
[23:40] <Bilbo0> even if it only happens rarely
[23:40] <tomreyn> audiohack: to know a solution, we'd need to know the problem, so far we only know a symptom. you can boot to recovery and, probably with guidance from here, you can get a better idea of what the actual issue is.
[23:41] <tomreyn> audiohack: before you do this, make sure you search the web to ensure that this is not a generic issue with vmware and this ubuntu version.
[23:41] <tomreyn> !recovery | audiohack
[23:43] <tomreyn> Bilbo0: didn't you say, in the very beginning, that you run ubuntu 16.04.1?
[23:44] <Bilbo0> tomreyn: Right
[23:44] <tomreyn> actually not in the beginning, rather just some miutes ago.
[23:45] <Bilbo0> well I'm not sure where you are going with that but ok
[23:45] <audiohack> tomreyn: is vmware player 12.5 win64
[23:45] <tomreyn> if you would install bug fixes and security patches, your system would report that it is 16.04.5. apparently you never updated yours?
[23:47] <tomreyn> Bilbo0: so i recommend you install updates, reboot, then try things again.
[23:48] <Bilbo0> tomreyn: Not sure. Maybe I was going by the output of that other thing
[23:49] <Bilbo0> tomreyn: But I have run updates
[23:50] <tomreyn> Bilbo0: can you show the full output (but also include the commands you run) of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -Vys dist-upgrade
[23:51] <Bilbo0> tomreyn: What will that install?
[23:51] <tomreyn> Bilbo0: this will update information on available packages, then simulate installing pending updates, but not actually install anything.
[23:56] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn, audiohack: It's a known bug in xorg when running on a VM. Switching to a VT, logging-in, and typing "sudo systemctl restart lightdm" is the only workaround.
[23:56] <audiohack> Eickmeyer: thanks!
[23:57] <tomreyn> Eickmeyer: got a bug report on this? works for me with virtualbox + ubuntu 18.10
[23:57] <Eickmeyer> audiohack: Ubuntu Studio is not meant to be installed in a VM, FYI.
[23:57] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: It's only occurring with Xfce, so Ubuntu Studio and Xubuntu are the only ones affected. I don't know the exact bug report, willcooke told me about it.
[23:58] <tomreyn> Eickmeyer: okay, and it affects 18.10 only?
[23:58] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: As far as I know.
[23:59] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: We discovered it when doing testing of 18.10 in VMs, and willcooke was pretty sure it was related to a bug, but I don't have a bug # to show you.