[00:01] <wxl> @tsimonq2: also do you know why dan is seeing that again?
[00:04] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Not sure
[00:05] <wxl> hm
[00:05] <wxl> maybe we should get a bug filed
[00:13] <lubot> <tsimonq2> ok
[00:14] <wxl> @kc2bez can you do that?
[00:14] <wxl> (in the daily)
[00:22] <lubot> <kc2bez> I will do that in a few.
[00:47] <lubot> <Cliff905> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/tyh7fPh.jpg How to fix
[00:48] <lubot> <Cliff905> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/TcBzwPm.jpg
[00:48] <lubot> <Cliff905> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/egVXMMI.jpg
[00:49] <wxl> @Cliff905 use the support channel 
[01:08] <lubot> <HMollerCl> (Photo, 59x43) https://i.imgur.com/5W5Snxx.jpg after las upgrade all my notifications are "collected" in this system tray icon. Any ideas how to congure it?
[01:09] <wxl> ooh that's neat
[01:09] <wxl> but no XD
[01:09] <wxl> no context menu? or maybe something in the panel config? or lxqt settings?
[01:10] <lubot> <HMollerCl> (Photo, 454x433) https://i.imgur.com/MOV79xf.jpg that's all I get
[01:10] <wxl> what about the second option?
[01:10] <wxl> and what are you trying to configure?
[01:10] <lubot> <HMollerCl> (Photo, 454x433) https://i.imgur.com/VwULd63.jpg and this
[01:11] <lubot> <HMollerCl> that they are not "collected"
[01:11] <wxl> what does that mean?
[01:12] <wxl> NP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-L6zc-xlU0
[01:13] <lubot> <HMollerCl> duracion por defecto = default duration ... ancho = width ... espaciado = space ... cuantas se guardan = how many are stored
[01:13] <lubot> <HMollerCl> maybe the last on in 0 help
[01:14] <wxl> no i mean what do you mean by "that they are not 'collected'?"
[01:14] <lubot> <HMollerCl> yup, that it's
[01:14] <lubot> <HMollerCl> last one in 0
[01:14] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> no i mean what do you mean by "that they are not 'collected'?"], that this tray icon doesn't appear
[01:15] <wxl> but you figured it out?
[01:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> ys
[01:15] <wxl> ok
[01:15] <wxl> :)
[01:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> is a nice feature, but it needs to be configured
[01:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> in my case every volume up/down was a notification
[01:15] <wxl> let's play with that and see if we can come up with a good default configuration
[01:16] <wxl> hm
[01:16] <lubot> <HMollerCl> (Photo, 345x146) https://i.imgur.com/KcpE949.jpg
[01:16] <wxl> ew
[01:16] <wxl> can we turn notifications off for particular apps?
[01:17] <lubot> <HMollerCl> it supposed to be
[01:17] <lubot> <HMollerCl> there is something like "ignore this applications"
[01:17] <wxl> do we need to consult the c++ manual? XD
[01:17] <lubot> <HMollerCl> haven't tried it
[01:18] <lubot> <HMollerCl> apparently...
[01:18] <lubot> <HMollerCl> anyway, since you are available. You had an issue with lxqt-sudo. may be it is solved in 0.14
[01:19] <lubot> <HMollerCl> at least now the fp.conf from featherpad don'w get owned by root when running with lxqt-sudo
[01:21] <wxl> yeah we're going to (a) fine tooth comb all the changes and (b) check to see if our cherry picks are in the released version and (c) go over bugs and see if they're fixed
[01:22] <lubot> <kc2bez> Speaking of bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm-qt/+bug/1813687
[01:23] <wxl> tgx
[01:23] <wxl> s/g/h/
[01:24] <wxl> that is bizarre
[01:24] <kc2bez> YW I think :D
[01:25] <wxl> @HMollerCl presumedly that application ignore is an executable so i'm not sure how we can avoid the volume control without avoiding ALL of lxqt-panel
[01:26] <wxl> oh no i'm wrong
[01:26] <wxl> hm
[01:26] <wxl> can't get the notification to trigger by moving the volume control with the mouse
[01:27] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> can't get the notification to trigger by moving the volume control with th …], With button?
[01:27] <wxl> you have to trigger it with a shortcut
[01:27] <wxl> ane sadly i'm right
[01:28] <wxl> it's lxqt-panel
[01:28] <kc2bez> My notifications don't look like that. I don't have anything re: volume
[01:28] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> My notifications don't look like that. I don't have anything re: volume], You have to that with keyboard keys or shortcuts
[01:28] <wxl> https://share.riseup.net/#kxAGwsxQIjIFasGKkfxpsA
[01:29] <wxl> see the application name? that's what you have to use in the ignore application settings
[01:29] <wxl> might be good to set up an upstream bug about that
[01:30] <kc2bez> Oh bummer, I hadn't noticed that. I don't use the keyboard keys for that too much but that is annoying.
[01:31] <wxl> the tooltip explains https://share.riseup.net/#D0LP8PkNbdrU7AM8N3r45Q
[01:31] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @kc2bez [Speaking of bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm-qt/+bug/18136 …], I'm at the point where I'm just going to carve out that stupid prompt
[01:32] <lubot> <tsimonq2> It's annoying and all I've heard are complaints
[01:32] <wxl> if you look at the notifications you can see what they mean by "on top" https://share.riseup.net/#zP-ph9frJXRbt_A0nHM1dQ
[01:33] <wxl> i don't mind the trusted executable thing at all. we had it fixed for a while. something changed. i'm sure it's a trivial fixed.
[01:33] <wxl> s/ed\./\./
[01:33] <wxl> :/
[01:53] <lubot> <HMollerCl> wxl: lxqt-notification is in v0.14 but lxqt-panel in en v0.13 maybe when all are in 0.14 it's solved
[01:53] <wxl> good thought
[01:54] <lubot> <HMollerCl> since you are all here
[01:54] <lubot> <HMollerCl> there is an option to change the panel icon
[01:54] <lubot> <HMollerCl> maybe we could put dark in the panel and light (or normal) in the rest
[01:55] <lubot> <HMollerCl> or put papirus normal on everything
[01:56] <wxl> oh hm
[01:56] <wxl> might be worth playing with
[01:56] <wxl> i guess maybe if we're coming up with bugs and we're not in 0.13 we should just as a rule ignore it until 0.14 comes out
[01:57] <lubot> <HMollerCl> actually, with papirus normal in all everything except nm-tray looks good
[01:57]  * wxl strangles nm-tray
[01:58] <lubot> <HMollerCl> (Photo, 363x33) https://i.imgur.com/QKc5SDF.jpg look
[01:58] <lubot> <HMollerCl> the one that looks whit is nm-applet, the gat nm-tray
[01:59] <wxl> bah
[01:59] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I don't get why nm-applet looks good and nm-tray looks bad
[02:00] <wxl> cuz nm-tray designers suck? XD
[02:01] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I thought that they took the icons from the system
[02:01] <wxl> i'm not sure
[02:01] <lubot> <HMollerCl> maybe nm-tray doesn't
[02:02] <wxl> probably doesn
[02:02] <wxl> t
[02:02] <wxl> headed home
[02:02] <wxl> talk soon
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[20:37] <lubot> <HMollerCl> (Photo, 491x374) https://i.imgur.com/8MIwmKJ.jpg look at th VCL
[20:38] <wxl> huh
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[20:39] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> huh], LO 6.2 has VCL=qt5
[20:39] <lubot> <HMollerCl> the filepicker has the checkbox for extensio, but it doesn't add teh extension.
[20:40] <lubot> <HMollerCl> when should be LO 6.2 added to ubuntu?
[20:41] <wxl> that would be something to ask what's his name
[20:41] <wxl> that one guy
[20:41] <wxl> osolomon or whatever???
[20:41] <lubot> <tsimonq2> oSoMoN
[20:42] <lubot> <tsimonq2> You can find him in #ubuntu-desktop
[20:43] <lubot> <HMollerCl> we might have to create a package called libreoffice-qt5 (as lo-gtk3 and lo-kde5 exists)
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[20:44] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Feel free to bring it up to him, otherwise I can.
[20:48] <lubot> <HMollerCl> osomon is not in t ubuntu-desktop now
[20:51] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Ok
[20:51] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Tomorrow morning maybe
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[21:07] <wxl> so our problem with desktop file is there
[21:07] <wxl> still there i mean
[21:08] <wxl> gio info lubuntu-calamares.desktop | grep trusted shows metadata::trusted: true
[21:09] <lubot> <kc2bez> Should it be metadata::trust or trusted ?
[21:09] <wxl> checking on thta
[21:09] <wxl> pretty sure it's trusted
[21:10] <lubot> <kc2bez> The patch got removed on the new version, I was looking at the source and I thought it had trust.
[21:11] <lubot> <kc2bez> But I may have that wrong too, it isn't in front of me.
[21:11] <wxl> casper certainly uses trusted https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/tree/scripts/casper-bottom/25adduser#n87
[21:11] <wxl> and that's trunk so it hasn't changed
[21:13] <wxl> huh seems like libfm-qt has NO patches?
[21:14] <wxl> yeah we killed them all
[21:14] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLIBFMQTPACKAGING88d19f7ee1325b28fa94f9507dffe0298ed35f35
[21:14] <wxl> right there
[21:15] <lubot> <kc2bez> Yeah, it looks like they all got removed but are they in the new code?
[21:15] <wxl> including the key one which shows trusted https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/libfm-qt/change/ubuntu%252Fdisco/debian/patches/add-metadata-for-trusting-executables.patch;88d19f7ee1325b28fa94f9507dffe0298ed35f35
[21:17] <wxl> oh for god's sake https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/blob/781bbe3da673b3e9d5a141163b64959234e211b1/src/core/fileinfo.cpp#L13
[21:18] <wxl> part of a big C++11 cleanup pcmanfm did 
[21:18] <wxl> https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commit/2a6f344271e883e326a326ba89e48566a3a8c857
[21:18] <lubot> <kc2bez> I was starting to look at it this morning and was wondering. I planned to get back to it tonight.
[21:20] <lubot> <kc2bez> I have a feeling that is related to why my patch didn't go for pcmanfm too.
[21:21] <wxl> i feel like i requested lxqt to use trusted
[21:21] <wxl> i can't find it though
[21:22] <wxl> https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/pull/242#issuecomment-429918205
[21:22] <ubot93> Pull 242 in lxqt/libfm-qt "Support adding metadata for trusting executables" [Merged]
[21:22] <wxl> there we go
[21:23] <wxl> shot down as usual
[21:23] <wxl> tl;dr we need to patch it and keep that patch ourselves
[21:24] <wxl> and wherever "metadata::trust" gets added we need to watch out for it. siiiiiigh
[21:24] <wxl> i would like to see that the patch/commit include clear notes referring to that conversation so we don't have to re-create this again
[21:24] <wxl> that said, you want to drum that up dan?
[21:25] <lubot> <kc2bez> I can try, I will need some guidance though.
[21:26] <wxl> it should be a simple case of digging through and finding any instance of metadata::trust and swapping it for metadata::trusted
[21:27] <wxl> grab the source and grep -R
[21:28] <wxl> note it's only libfm-qt, not pcmanfm-qt that needs to be messed with
[21:28] <wxl> i'm SURE there will be issues with symbols, so you'll need help with that
[21:28] <wxl> simon's the wizard there
[21:29] <wxl> AND when we finally get it in, we'll have to have a no-change recompile of pcmanfm-qt, too
[21:29] <lubot> <kc2bez> I will be available in about 1-2 hours when I get home. I will give it a whirl.
[21:38] <wxl> i just did `gio set lubuntu-calamares.desktop metadata::trust true` and all is well
[21:38] <wxl> seemed to require a logout to take effect
[21:38] <lynorian> wxl no good for live session and install
[21:42] <wxl> lynorian: what do you mean?
[22:15] <wxl> actually it looks like you could copy simon's previous work dan https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLIBFMQTPACKAGING9abec1c8dddc2cdb5f362a7ecb9ce9bf1cd00831
[22:27] <lynorian> wxl logging out and logging back in again
[22:27] <wxl> lynorian: worked for me. huh
[22:28] <wxl> you did set metadata::trust right?
[22:28] <lynorian> no I haven't tried this I used to think logging out and back in again didn't work in live session  oops
[22:29] <wxl> OH
[22:29] <wxl> it didn't used to
[22:29] <wxl> does now
[22:29] <wxl> we fixed that last release
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