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didrocksgood morning07:27
jibelSalut didrocks07:37
didrockssalut jibel07:44
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dufluMorning didrocks, jibel07:57
jibelHi duflu08:00
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers08:01
dufluMorning oSoMoN08:02
oSoMoNhey duflu08:02
jibelSalut oSoMoN08:04
oSoMoNsalut jibel08:04
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didrockshey duflu, oSoMoN08:14
oSoMoNsalut didrocks08:14
seb128hey there, good morning desktopers!08:44
seb128lut les frenchies08:44
didrockssalut seb12808:44
seb128lut didrocks, en forme ?08:44
seb128jamesh, didrocks, weekly summary update?08:45
didrocksseb128: sur casper de bon matin et nuit plutôt agitée, mais ça va, et toi ?08:45
jameshseb128: thanks for the reminder.  I'm just finishing it off.08:45
seb128andyrock, you only have one line, did you forget to follow up or that was a complex one that took the week? :)08:46
seb128jamesh, thx08:46
seb128didrocks, ça va, un peu fatigué j'avait un match de tennis et je suis rentré tard et j'ai pas réussi à dormir direct après08:46
didrocksseb128: for once, I didn't file up on Monday, planned for this morning :p But finished late yesterday, didn't want to add even more hours for this08:46
seb128didrocks, agitée à cause de Martin?08:47
didrocksnoting that a lot of people are doing it on Tuesday :p08:47
seb128didrocks, yeah, no worry :)08:47
seb128right :p08:47
didrocksseb128: ça + acouphènes (mais oui, réveillé globalement car je pense terreurs nocturnes et ne veut pas se rendormir)08:47
seb128:(08:47
oSoMoNsalut seb12808:54
willcookemorning08:58
didrockshey willcooke08:59
Laneyyo09:01
Laneybaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaby shark dododododo09:03
seb128good morning u.K09:03
willcookeLaney, they got to you as well?09:03
didrockshey Laney09:04
Laneywillcooke: mind virus09:05
Laneyit's how 28 days later really started09:05
Laneyhey didrocks seb128!09:05
seb128Laney, weekly summary reminder! :)09:11
seb128thx didrocks and jamesh for posting yours :)09:12
didrocksnw09:12
Laneythanks, but I'm already writing it09:12
dufluMorning seb128, willcooke, Laney09:12
seb128hey duflu, how are you?09:12
dufluseb128, going as well as a catchup after a long weekend can. You?09:13
seb128Laney, k, good, just for the record it's not only you but I did ping everyone that didn't post theirs yesterday since it's supposed to be out by monday evening, seems we are on a trend of having the team posting on tuesday mornings now09:13
seb128duflu, I'm good thx!09:13
seb128ready weekly summaries before doing my daily bugs review :)09:15
duflutjaalton, vainfo doesn't work on DRM any more (like from ssh it used to). Is that a bug?09:24
dufluUmm, I take it back. It just started working09:24
* duflu shrugs09:24
tjaaltonheh09:48
andyrockmorning all!10:30
pittibonjour tout le monde !10:47
pittiseb128, Laney, didrocks: I won't be at fosdem this year :'( I got a really nasty virus in Brno which is still plaguing me; there's no point in lots of travelling through the winter amongst thousands of people again, after I just returned home last night10:48
* Laney hugs pitti, that sucks - hope you get well soon10:49
Laneyno pitti, GNOME beers in a different place10:49
Laneywhatever is going to be next?10:49
pittithanks10:50
Laneyactually, https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/FOSDEM/2019/ doesn't say a different venue so maybe that was a vicious rumour :-)10:51
didrockspitti: argh, we'll really miss you a lot :( You were one of the reason to get there! Hoping you will fell way better soon10:59
* didrocks hugs pitti as well11:00
* seb128 hugs pitti, sorry to hear that, get better!13:15
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chrisccoulsonpitti, ah, it's a shame you're not going to be at fosdem. I hope you feel better soon14:18
pittichrisccoulson: thanks! next year again!14:22
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting 2019-01-2914:30
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jan 29 14:30:46 2019 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.14:30
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jbichao/14:30
didrockshey14:31
willcookeRoll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine (hols), laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)14:31
seb128_o/14:31
Trevinhoo/14:32
jibelhi14:32
andyrocko/14:32
willcookeLet's start with bb incoming, there's a new one:14:33
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunistring/+bug/181358714:33
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1813587 in libunistring (Ubuntu Bionic) "libunistring ftbfs on 18.04 LTS" [High,New]14:33
oSoMoNo/14:34
* kenvandine waves as boarding plane14:34
jbichaI don't know if we should just apply the workaround for libunistring or what14:34
willcookeseb128, you've spent some time looking at it, any strong feelings?14:35
seb128+1 for accepting it, I assume we want the archive to be buildable in the LTS14:35
willcookeack14:35
seb128we don't discuss solutions here :p14:35
seb128we need an assignee then14:35
willcookestrong feelings regarding accepting it or not I mean14:35
seb128anyone volunteering?14:35
jbichaif it's just the workaround, I'd be happy to volunteer. If it's more, I don't know if I know what I'm doing14:35
andyrockI can take a look14:35
seb128jbicha, you want to look into it? the workaround wfm since that was done in cosmic14:35
jbichayes14:36
willcookethx14:36
seb128andyrock, thx but jbicha beat you :)14:36
andyrocknp :P14:36
willcookeok, everything else in incoming is assigned etc14:36
seb128right14:36
jbichabug 177281114:37
ubot5bug 1772811 in OEM Priority Project "different behaviors for switch display mode between xenial and bionic" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177281114:37
willcookeI spoke to OEM about that one this morning, it's not super urgent for them14:38
seb128?14:38
willcookeoh, wait, this is the other OEM one14:38
seb128what are we reviewing?14:38
seb128where that bug is coming from?14:38
willcookebb-tracking14:38
seb128ah ok, I missed that step :p14:39
willcookeMaking sure there isn't anything unassigned14:39
Trevinhoah, looks like a shell selector issue...14:39
seb128it's an easy fix14:39
willcookeduflu was working on it, so I will assign him14:39
seb128trevinho, it's not part of the ongoing/prepared SRU?14:40
seb128willcooke, well it's just including an easy coming to the SRU upload14:40
* Trevinho checks14:40
jbicha(sorry, I was looking at the wrong page)14:40
willcookekk14:40
seb128I though it was already on the list14:40
seb128trevinho, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/commit/fcdac69e14:40
* seb128 grrrr at matrix and duplicated nickname, can't trev<tab> anymore :p14:40
Trevinhonot sure I cherry-picked that14:40
willcookeThe other bug in tracking which isn't assigned is this one:14:41
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/177832214:41
seb128sorry, should have pinged you directly about it14:41
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1778322 in samba (Ubuntu) "gvfs-smb-browse can't browse samba/smb tree" [High,Triaged]14:41
Trevinhoneed to check14:41
Trevinhosince the commit id would be different, let me see I can reply in a bit14:41
seb128k, let's talk about it post meeting14:41
seb128the current SRU hasn't been accepted it so maybe we can sneak that one in as well :)14:41
seb128willcooke, I'm taking the gvfs one, I did upload the fix but it needs a new api on the samba side to work14:42
willcookethx14:42
seb128np14:42
willcookek, on to CC14:42
willcookeIncoming is clear14:42
willcookeTracking is all assigned14:43
willcookeDD incoming is clea14:43
willcooker14:43
willcookeAnd Tracking is all assigned14:44
willcookeSo that looks good.14:44
willcookeOn to proposed-migrations14:44
willcookehttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages14:44
willcookeLaney, anything concerning you there?14:45
Laneyyes it needs looking at, nothing new14:45
Laneywe probably said something last week but I can't remember what /o\14:45
willcookeIt looks like there are is a lot less there than last time I looked14:45
willcookeThunderbird14:46
jbicha:) :)14:46
jbicha:(14:46
seb128what needs looking at? tb?14:46
seb128oSoMoN, ^ is that on your list?14:46
oSoMoNon my list14:46
Laneythx14:46
seb128otherwise our section looks pretty good :)14:46
willcooke:thumbs-up:14:46
willcookeGood work!14:46
seb128^5 team :)14:46
willcooke#topic AOB14:46
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willcookeAnyone got anything they want to talk about?14:47
willcooke514:47
jbicha.14:47
willcooke414:47
seb128jbicha, is that "." a raised hand?14:47
jbichaGNOME UI Freeze is this weekend so if you have any last minute changes there, now's the time14:47
willcookethx14:47
* jbicha lowers hand14:48
seb128:)14:48
* didrocks still waits for MP1 of the Shell to be rereviewed, but I guess not for this cycle14:48
willcookelast call14:48
willcookek, lets wrap14:48
willcookeoh....14:48
willcookePlease fill in the Malta doc with things you want to talk about14:48
willcooke /nag14:49
willcooke#endmeeting14:49
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jan 29 14:49:06 2019 UTC.14:49
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-01-29-14.30.moin.txt14:49
didrocksthx!14:49
andyrockthx14:49
willcookeThanks everyone!  Bugs are looking very well tended, awesome!14:49
seb128thx :)14:49
oSoMoNthx14:49
oSoMoNjibel, according to https://community.ubuntu.com/t/monday-4th-february-2019/9618/2 you've already been to FOSDEM this year, how was it? would you recommend any talk in particular? and most importantly, am I gonna be reasonable with belgian beer this time around?14:53
didrockspredictive attending!14:54
oSoMoNtime travel must be awesome14:54
jibeloSoMoN, :)14:54
seb128oSoMoN, how was the absynthe? ;)14:57
Trevinhoahaha14:58
oSoMoNI have no memories whatsoever of absinthe14:58
mptwillcooke, hi, can I close all the Ambiance/Radiance bug reports you opened in 2017?14:59
willcookempt, ha15:00
willcookempt, sure thing.  Got a link for posterity?15:00
TrevinhooSoMoN: that's how it works xD, but it needs an annoucement!15:01
mptwillcooke, https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/desktop-design/issues/created_by/8none115:01
willcookempt, ooooohhhhhhh15:02
willcookempt, yeah, kill them, kill them all15:02
mptthanks15:03
mptdone15:07
willcookethanks mpt15:09
k_alamseb128: Hi, good afternoon15:14
seb128hey k_alam15:14
k_alamwe talked about uploading unity-scope-gnote....15:16
k_alamhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+queue?queue_state=015:18
k_alamcan you review ?15:20
k_alamI want them merged before ff15:20
jbichak_alam: btw there's a new totem-plugin-zeitgeist package I think you'd want to install by default15:21
seb128k_alam, done, sorry I had reviewed it, just forgot to press the button15:22
k_alamseb128: nice :) Thanks15:22
k_alamjbicha: I will add that to ubuntu-unity-desktop seed which requires updaing and uploading...15:23
k_alamjbicha: so, totem-plugins is not required any more ?15:24
jbichathis is an extra package because we didn't want zeitgeist in default Ubuntu any more15:25
jbichaif you had totem-plugins before, you probably still want totem-plugins15:26
jbichatotem recommends totem-plugins so it's already installed by default15:27
jbichak_alam: you probably want rhythmbox-plugin-zeitgeist too (that split happened a while ago)15:28
k_alamjbicha:  Right , I will just add extra package...rhythmbox-plugin-zeitgeist hasn't been working for some time now...15:30
jbichaoh, big_on mentioned about that15:31
jbichak_alam: does it help if you install libpeas-1.0-python2loader ?15:33
k_alamjbicha: let me try15:34
jbichasorry, I believe no one on desktop team uses zeitgeist any more so we don't notice when things don't work15:34
k_alamcan you picked up the patch in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zeitgeist/+bug/1805418 ? It's actually patch for a patch15:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1805418 in zeitgeist (Ubuntu) "Update pre-populator patch with correct desktop names" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:34
jbichak_alam: ok, you might want to keep an eye on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/yelp/merge_requests/10 since it's going to change the .desktop for yelp too15:36
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 10 in yelp "app-id: unify app-id & improving the appdata" [8. Translation, Opened]15:36
jbichaseb128: are you planning to skip NM 1.14 and go straight to 1.15?15:38
seb128jbicha, yes, see my weekly summary on the hub15:40
seb128it's in the desktop ppa/vcs already15:41
k_alamjbicha: it also changes gsettings schema so yelp-scope will need updating... I would also like to import a fix from upstream for zeitgeist https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/zeitgeist/zeitgeist/issues/16, can it be done in disco  as a patch?15:41
gitbotZeitGeist issue 16 in zeitgeist "Zeitgeist spams syslog with "Unable to parse version info!"" [Closed]15:41
seb128jbicha, you are interested for a particular reason?15:41
seb128Trevinho, k_alam: was there anything blocking landing of https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3577 ?15:43
jbichaseb128: no, I was just checking on NM packaging15:43
jbichak_alam: are you using cosmic or disco?15:43
Trevinhoseb128: don't think so, just needed publishing I think15:43
seb128trevinho, k, let me do that (btw that dual nickname is driving me crazy :()15:44
seb128can you highlight to Marco? ;)15:44
seb128so I can ping you with that keyword15:44
seb128I'm not going to tre<tab> anymore15:44
Trevinhoyep15:44
TrevinhoI do already15:44
Trevinhobut... i can remove that matrix user, or rename... Thing is that I wanted to have some logging with that, but I can rename it :)15:45
TrevinhoI would highlight on both though15:45
seb128well, it's that having the difference at the end of your full name is the worth15:45
seb128like I can't tab at any point15:45
seb128trevinh<tab> is still not going to go the right thing15:45
k_alamjbicha: disco....and no there was no blocking laney approved it15:45
seb128it still displays both nicknames15:45
Trevinhoseb128: hexchat or what?15:45
seb128xchat-gnome :)15:45
seb128I know that I can change the option to display the first match rather than the list in case of multi-choices15:46
seb128but that's not what I usually want15:46
jbichak_alam: in disco, "zeitgeist-daemon -v" returns 1.0.1 so maybe that bug is already fixed for disco without needing to cherry-pick the extra commit15:46
Trevinhoit should reuse the one you pinged the most15:47
seb128trevinho, if I do 'an<tab>' I want to complete to andy and not the other nick that's first match15:47
Trevinhowell, don't know about xchat-gnome though15:47
seb128well, the first time it doesn't have any stat15:47
seb128so it's random15:47
seb128anyway, it's probably a matter of taste but I like predictable15:48
Trevinhoyeah, I could rename that anyway...15:48
seb128well, up to you15:48
seb128I can type Marco it's fine :)15:48
seb128Trevinho is just not easy to type without completion :p15:49
seb128jbicha, more .desktop renaming :(((15:50
jbichaseb128: there was a lot of that this cycle15:50
seb128I though we were done with those crap post bionic and could stop the dh_migration etc15:50
seb128shrug15:50
seb128GNOME :/15:50
seb128they keep the gnome-shell migration list updated at least?15:51
jbichamostly yes15:51
seb128"mostly"15:51
jbicha"if someone thinks about it"15:51
seb128:/15:52
k_alamjbcha: new zeitgeist in disco fixes the version issue....and no installing libpeas-1.0-python2loader doesn't fix the issue, I am getting libpeas-WARNING **: 21:42:02.306: Error loading plugin 'rbzeitgeist'16:15
jbichak_alam: well if you can't fix rbzeitgeist we should drop the package. I don't have time to investigate that problem now. ☹️16:57
k_alamjbicha: let me ask someone from the community if anyone wants to work on this....and may be a python3 port17:00
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oSoMoNenigmail tests all pass now, thunderbird should migrate soon18:19
willcookenice one, thanks oSoMoN18:20
oSoMoNwell I didn't do anything really, just re-triggered them after I noticed that they were passing when triggered by other packages18:21
willcooke:)18:21
oSoMoNwhatever was causing the failures (not thunderbird) got fixed18:21
willcookequittin' time.  Night all18:22
oSoMoNgood night all20:14
jbichajamesh: did you get a chance to look at gtk portal commits for SRUing yet?20:55
jbichaoh, still not morning there yet20:56

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