[07:27] <didrocks> good morning
[07:37] <jibel> Salut didrocks
[07:44] <didrocks> salut jibel
[07:57] <duflu> Morning didrocks, jibel
[08:00] <jibel> Hi duflu
[08:01] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[08:02] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[08:02] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[08:04] <jibel> Salut oSoMoN
[08:04] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[08:14] <didrocks> hey duflu, oSoMoN
[08:14] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[08:44] <seb128> hey there, good morning desktopers!
[08:44] <seb128> lut les frenchies
[08:44] <didrocks> salut seb128
[08:44] <seb128> lut didrocks, en forme ?
[08:45] <seb128> jamesh, didrocks, weekly summary update?
[08:45] <didrocks> seb128: sur casper de bon matin et nuit plutôt agitée, mais ça va, et toi ?
[08:45] <jamesh> seb128: thanks for the reminder.  I'm just finishing it off.
[08:46] <seb128> andyrock, you only have one line, did you forget to follow up or that was a complex one that took the week? :)
[08:46] <seb128> jamesh, thx
[08:46] <seb128> didrocks, ça va, un peu fatigué j'avait un match de tennis et je suis rentré tard et j'ai pas réussi à dormir direct après
[08:46] <didrocks> seb128: for once, I didn't file up on Monday, planned for this morning :p But finished late yesterday, didn't want to add even more hours for this
[08:47] <seb128> didrocks, agitée à cause de Martin?
[08:47] <didrocks> noting that a lot of people are doing it on Tuesday :p
[08:47] <seb128> didrocks, yeah, no worry :)
[08:47] <seb128> right :p
[08:47] <didrocks> seb128: ça + acouphènes (mais oui, réveillé globalement car je pense terreurs nocturnes et ne veut pas se rendormir)
[08:47] <seb128> :(
[08:54] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[08:58] <willcooke> morning
[08:59] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[09:01] <Laney> yo
[09:03] <Laney> baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaby shark dododododo
[09:03] <seb128> good morning u.K
[09:03] <willcooke> Laney, they got to you as well?
[09:04] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:05] <Laney> willcooke: mind virus
[09:05] <Laney> it's how 28 days later really started
[09:05] <Laney> hey didrocks seb128!
[09:11] <seb128> Laney, weekly summary reminder! :)
[09:12] <seb128> thx didrocks and jamesh for posting yours :)
[09:12] <didrocks> nw
[09:12] <Laney> thanks, but I'm already writing it
[09:12] <duflu> Morning seb128, willcooke, Laney
[09:12] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[09:13] <duflu> seb128, going as well as a catchup after a long weekend can. You?
[09:13] <seb128> Laney, k, good, just for the record it's not only you but I did ping everyone that didn't post theirs yesterday since it's supposed to be out by monday evening, seems we are on a trend of having the team posting on tuesday mornings now
[09:13] <seb128> duflu, I'm good thx!
[09:15] <seb128> ready weekly summaries before doing my daily bugs review :)
[09:24] <duflu> tjaalton, vainfo doesn't work on DRM any more (like from ssh it used to). Is that a bug?
[09:24] <duflu> Umm, I take it back. It just started working
[09:24]  * duflu shrugs
[09:48] <tjaalton> heh
[10:30] <andyrock> morning all!
[10:47] <pitti> bonjour tout le monde !
[10:48] <pitti> seb128, Laney, didrocks: I won't be at fosdem this year :'( I got a really nasty virus in Brno which is still plaguing me; there's no point in lots of travelling through the winter amongst thousands of people again, after I just returned home last night
[10:49]  * Laney hugs pitti, that sucks - hope you get well soon
[10:49] <Laney> no pitti, GNOME beers in a different place
[10:49] <Laney> whatever is going to be next?
[10:50] <pitti> thanks
[10:51] <Laney> actually, https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/FOSDEM/2019/ doesn't say a different venue so maybe that was a vicious rumour :-)
[10:59] <didrocks> pitti: argh, we'll really miss you a lot :( You were one of the reason to get there! Hoping you will fell way better soon
[11:00]  * didrocks hugs pitti as well
[13:15]  * seb128 hugs pitti, sorry to hear that, get better!
[14:18] <chrisccoulson> pitti, ah, it's a shame you're not going to be at fosdem. I hope you feel better soon
[14:22] <pitti> chrisccoulson: thanks! next year again!
[14:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting 2019-01-29
[14:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 29 14:30:46 2019 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:30] <jbicha> o/
[14:31] <didrocks> hey
[14:31] <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine (hols), laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[14:31] <seb128> _o/
[14:32] <Trevinho> o/
[14:32] <jibel> hi
[14:32] <andyrock> o/
[14:33] <willcooke> Let's start with bb incoming, there's a new one:
[14:33] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunistring/+bug/1813587
[14:34] <oSoMoN> o/
[14:34]  * kenvandine waves as boarding plane
[14:34] <jbicha> I don't know if we should just apply the workaround for libunistring or what
[14:35] <willcooke> seb128, you've spent some time looking at it, any strong feelings?
[14:35] <seb128> +1 for accepting it, I assume we want the archive to be buildable in the LTS
[14:35] <willcooke> ack
[14:35] <seb128> we don't discuss solutions here :p
[14:35] <seb128> we need an assignee then
[14:35] <willcooke> strong feelings regarding accepting it or not I mean
[14:35] <seb128> anyone volunteering?
[14:35] <jbicha> if it's just the workaround, I'd be happy to volunteer. If it's more, I don't know if I know what I'm doing
[14:35] <andyrock> I can take a look
[14:35] <seb128> jbicha, you want to look into it? the workaround wfm since that was done in cosmic
[14:36] <jbicha> yes
[14:36] <willcooke> thx
[14:36] <seb128> andyrock, thx but jbicha beat you :)
[14:36] <andyrock> np :P
[14:36] <willcooke> ok, everything else in incoming is assigned etc
[14:36] <seb128> right
[14:37] <jbicha> bug 1772811
[14:38] <willcooke> I spoke to OEM about that one this morning, it's not super urgent for them
[14:38] <seb128> ?
[14:38] <willcooke> oh, wait, this is the other OEM one
[14:38] <seb128> what are we reviewing?
[14:38] <seb128> where that bug is coming from?
[14:38] <willcooke> bb-tracking
[14:39] <seb128> ah ok, I missed that step :p
[14:39] <willcooke> Making sure there isn't anything unassigned
[14:39] <Trevinho> ah, looks like a shell selector issue...
[14:39] <seb128> it's an easy fix
[14:39] <willcooke> duflu was working on it, so I will assign him
[14:40] <seb128> trevinho, it's not part of the ongoing/prepared SRU?
[14:40] <seb128> willcooke, well it's just including an easy coming to the SRU upload
[14:40]  * Trevinho checks
[14:40] <jbicha> (sorry, I was looking at the wrong page)
[14:40] <willcooke> kk
[14:40] <seb128> I though it was already on the list
[14:40] <seb128> trevinho, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/commit/fcdac69e
[14:40]  * seb128 grrrr at matrix and duplicated nickname, can't trev<tab> anymore :p
[14:40] <Trevinho> not sure I cherry-picked that
[14:41] <willcooke> The other bug in tracking which isn't assigned is this one:
[14:41] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1778322
[14:41] <seb128> sorry, should have pinged you directly about it
[14:41] <Trevinho> need to check
[14:41] <Trevinho> since the commit id would be different, let me see I can reply in a bit
[14:41] <seb128> k, let's talk about it post meeting
[14:41] <seb128> the current SRU hasn't been accepted it so maybe we can sneak that one in as well :)
[14:42] <seb128> willcooke, I'm taking the gvfs one, I did upload the fix but it needs a new api on the samba side to work
[14:42] <willcooke> thx
[14:42] <seb128> np
[14:42] <willcooke> k, on to CC
[14:42] <willcooke> Incoming is clear
[14:43] <willcooke> Tracking is all assigned
[14:43] <willcooke> DD incoming is clea
[14:43] <willcooke> r
[14:44] <willcooke> And Tracking is all assigned
[14:44] <willcooke> So that looks good.
[14:44] <willcooke> On to proposed-migrations
[14:44] <willcooke> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[14:45] <willcooke> Laney, anything concerning you there?
[14:45] <Laney> yes it needs looking at, nothing new
[14:45] <Laney> we probably said something last week but I can't remember what /o\
[14:45] <willcooke> It looks like there are is a lot less there than last time I looked
[14:46] <willcooke> Thunderbird
[14:46] <jbicha> :) :)
[14:46] <jbicha> :(
[14:46] <seb128> what needs looking at? tb?
[14:46] <seb128> oSoMoN, ^ is that on your list?
[14:46] <oSoMoN> on my list
[14:46] <Laney> thx
[14:46] <seb128> otherwise our section looks pretty good :)
[14:46] <willcooke> :thumbs-up:
[14:46] <willcooke> Good work!
[14:46] <seb128> ^5 team :)
[14:46] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[14:47] <willcooke> Anyone got anything they want to talk about?
[14:47] <willcooke> 5
[14:47] <jbicha> .
[14:47] <willcooke> 4
[14:47] <seb128> jbicha, is that "." a raised hand?
[14:47] <jbicha> GNOME UI Freeze is this weekend so if you have any last minute changes there, now's the time
[14:47] <willcooke> thx
[14:48]  * jbicha lowers hand
[14:48] <seb128> :)
[14:48]  * didrocks still waits for MP1 of the Shell to be rereviewed, but I guess not for this cycle
[14:48] <willcooke> last call
[14:48] <willcooke> k, lets wrap
[14:48] <willcooke> oh....
[14:48] <willcooke> Please fill in the Malta doc with things you want to talk about
[14:49] <willcooke>  /nag
[14:49] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[14:49] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan 29 14:49:06 2019 UTC.
[14:49] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-01-29-14.30.moin.txt
[14:49] <didrocks> thx!
[14:49] <andyrock> thx
[14:49] <willcooke> Thanks everyone!  Bugs are looking very well tended, awesome!
[14:49] <seb128> thx :)
[14:49] <oSoMoN> thx
[14:53] <oSoMoN> jibel, according to https://community.ubuntu.com/t/monday-4th-february-2019/9618/2 you've already been to FOSDEM this year, how was it? would you recommend any talk in particular? and most importantly, am I gonna be reasonable with belgian beer this time around?
[14:54] <didrocks> predictive attending!
[14:54] <oSoMoN> time travel must be awesome
[14:54] <jibel> oSoMoN, :)
[14:57] <seb128> oSoMoN, how was the absynthe? ;)
[14:58] <Trevinho> ahaha
[14:58] <oSoMoN> I have no memories whatsoever of absinthe
[14:59] <mpt> willcooke, hi, can I close all the Ambiance/Radiance bug reports you opened in 2017?
[15:00] <willcooke> mpt, ha
[15:00] <willcooke> mpt, sure thing.  Got a link for posterity?
[15:01] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: that's how it works xD, but it needs an annoucement!
[15:01] <mpt> willcooke, https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/desktop-design/issues/created_by/8none1
[15:02] <willcooke> mpt, ooooohhhhhhh
[15:02] <willcooke> mpt, yeah, kill them, kill them all
[15:03] <mpt> thanks
[15:07] <mpt> done
[15:09] <willcooke> thanks mpt
[15:14] <k_alam> seb128: Hi, good afternoon
[15:14] <seb128> hey k_alam
[15:16] <k_alam> we talked about uploading unity-scope-gnote....
[15:18] <k_alam> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+queue?queue_state=0
[15:20] <k_alam> can you review ?
[15:20] <k_alam> I want them merged before ff
[15:21] <jbicha> k_alam: btw there's a new totem-plugin-zeitgeist package I think you'd want to install by default
[15:22] <seb128> k_alam, done, sorry I had reviewed it, just forgot to press the button
[15:22] <k_alam> seb128: nice :) Thanks
[15:23] <k_alam> jbicha: I will add that to ubuntu-unity-desktop seed which requires updaing and uploading...
[15:24] <k_alam> jbicha: so, totem-plugins is not required any more ?
[15:25] <jbicha> this is an extra package because we didn't want zeitgeist in default Ubuntu any more
[15:26] <jbicha> if you had totem-plugins before, you probably still want totem-plugins
[15:27] <jbicha> totem recommends totem-plugins so it's already installed by default
[15:28] <jbicha> k_alam: you probably want rhythmbox-plugin-zeitgeist too (that split happened a while ago)
[15:30] <k_alam> jbicha:  Right , I will just add extra package...rhythmbox-plugin-zeitgeist hasn't been working for some time now...
[15:31] <jbicha> oh, big_on mentioned about that
[15:33] <jbicha> k_alam: does it help if you install libpeas-1.0-python2loader ?
[15:34] <k_alam> jbicha: let me try
[15:34] <jbicha> sorry, I believe no one on desktop team uses zeitgeist any more so we don't notice when things don't work
[15:34] <k_alam> can you picked up the patch in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zeitgeist/+bug/1805418 ? It's actually patch for a patch
[15:36] <jbicha> k_alam: ok, you might want to keep an eye on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/yelp/merge_requests/10 since it's going to change the .desktop for yelp too
[15:36] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 10 in yelp "app-id: unify app-id & improving the appdata" [8. Translation, Opened]
[15:38] <jbicha> seb128: are you planning to skip NM 1.14 and go straight to 1.15?
[15:40] <seb128> jbicha, yes, see my weekly summary on the hub
[15:41] <seb128> it's in the desktop ppa/vcs already
[15:41] <k_alam> jbicha: it also changes gsettings schema so yelp-scope will need updating... I would also like to import a fix from upstream for zeitgeist https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/zeitgeist/zeitgeist/issues/16, can it be done in disco  as a patch?
[15:41] <gitbot> ZeitGeist issue 16 in zeitgeist "Zeitgeist spams syslog with "Unable to parse version info!"" [Closed]
[15:41] <seb128> jbicha, you are interested for a particular reason?
[15:43] <seb128> Trevinho, k_alam: was there anything blocking landing of https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3577 ?
[15:43] <jbicha> seb128: no, I was just checking on NM packaging
[15:43] <jbicha> k_alam: are you using cosmic or disco?
[15:43] <Trevinho> seb128: don't think so, just needed publishing I think
[15:44] <seb128> trevinho, k, let me do that (btw that dual nickname is driving me crazy :()
[15:44] <seb128> can you highlight to Marco? ;)
[15:44] <seb128> so I can ping you with that keyword
[15:44] <seb128> I'm not going to tre<tab> anymore
[15:44] <Trevinho> yep
[15:44] <Trevinho> I do already
[15:45] <Trevinho> but... i can remove that matrix user, or rename... Thing is that I wanted to have some logging with that, but I can rename it :)
[15:45] <Trevinho> I would highlight on both though
[15:45] <seb128> well, it's that having the difference at the end of your full name is the worth
[15:45] <seb128> like I can't tab at any point
[15:45] <seb128> trevinh<tab> is still not going to go the right thing
[15:45] <k_alam> jbicha: disco....and no there was no blocking laney approved it
[15:45] <seb128> it still displays both nicknames
[15:45] <Trevinho> seb128: hexchat or what?
[15:45] <seb128> xchat-gnome :)
[15:46] <seb128> I know that I can change the option to display the first match rather than the list in case of multi-choices
[15:46] <seb128> but that's not what I usually want
[15:46] <jbicha> k_alam: in disco, "zeitgeist-daemon -v" returns 1.0.1 so maybe that bug is already fixed for disco without needing to cherry-pick the extra commit
[15:47] <Trevinho> it should reuse the one you pinged the most
[15:47] <seb128> trevinho, if I do 'an<tab>' I want to complete to andy and not the other nick that's first match
[15:47] <Trevinho> well, don't know about xchat-gnome though
[15:47] <seb128> well, the first time it doesn't have any stat
[15:47] <seb128> so it's random
[15:48] <seb128> anyway, it's probably a matter of taste but I like predictable
[15:48] <Trevinho> yeah, I could rename that anyway...
[15:48] <seb128> well, up to you
[15:48] <seb128> I can type Marco it's fine :)
[15:49] <seb128> Trevinho is just not easy to type without completion :p
[15:50] <seb128> jbicha, more .desktop renaming :(((
[15:50] <jbicha> seb128: there was a lot of that this cycle
[15:50] <seb128> I though we were done with those crap post bionic and could stop the dh_migration etc
[15:50] <seb128> shrug
[15:50] <seb128> GNOME :/
[15:51] <seb128> they keep the gnome-shell migration list updated at least?
[15:51] <jbicha> mostly yes
[15:51] <seb128> "mostly"
[15:51] <jbicha> "if someone thinks about it"
[15:52] <seb128> :/
[16:15] <k_alam> jbcha: new zeitgeist in disco fixes the version issue....and no installing libpeas-1.0-python2loader doesn't fix the issue, I am getting libpeas-WARNING **: 21:42:02.306: Error loading plugin 'rbzeitgeist'
[16:57] <jbicha> k_alam: well if you can't fix rbzeitgeist we should drop the package. I don't have time to investigate that problem now. ☹️
[17:00] <k_alam> jbicha: let me ask someone from the community if anyone wants to work on this....and may be a python3 port
[18:19] <oSoMoN> enigmail tests all pass now, thunderbird should migrate soon
[18:20] <willcooke> nice one, thanks oSoMoN
[18:21] <oSoMoN> well I didn't do anything really, just re-triggered them after I noticed that they were passing when triggered by other packages
[18:21] <willcooke> :)
[18:21] <oSoMoN> whatever was causing the failures (not thunderbird) got fixed
[18:22] <willcooke> quittin' time.  Night all
[20:14] <oSoMoN> good night all
[20:55] <jbicha> jamesh: did you get a chance to look at gtk portal commits for SRUing yet?
[20:56] <jbicha> oh, still not morning there yet