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kc2bezwxl how do you want this quilt header/changelog/commit message etc to read? 00:01
wxlit should say something about needing to throttle over upstream changes to be consistent with other ubuntu flavors because upstream refuses to change it00:26
wxli'd advise being verbose00:26
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wxli'd advise mentioning the phrase "trusted executable" and the "metadata::trust"/"metadata::trusted" settings. will help us search if we need to.00:33
kc2bezI might be too PC let me know-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dPMKkrNJr2/00:33
wxland you know how to link it to to the bug report?00:34
wxl"the Ubuntu standard"00:34
wxlin this case, eliminate the upstream tags, because this is ours and only our change00:35
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wxli still don't understand why tsimonq2 edited the patch.00:35
kc2bezAuthor?00:36
wxlyou? :)00:36
wxlor you can attribute it to tsimonq2 and reference his earlier change00:37
wxlbut since he was sloppy, you take the credit :)00:37
tsimonq2HEY00:38
tsimonq2:P00:38
wxlit may not be the handslap you want, but it's the handslap you deserve XD00:38
kc2bezOk, I will be AFK for a few, dinner is done. Be back in a bit.00:38
wxlthx dan!00:38
tsimonq2XD00:39
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kc2bezwxl I cleaned up my quilt header http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/73XwHJ4Nqr/01:17
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wxl@kc2bez: looks good. make sure your commit message includes the (LP: #1813687) thingy01:29
ubot93Launchpad bug 1813687 in libfm-qt (Ubuntu) "Install Lubuntu 19.04 desktop icon fails to execute installer in Live ISO" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181368701:29
kc2bezI'll probably pester you again :) Thanks for the look.01:31
kc2bezwxl my rm command didn't get rid of everything I think it should have. I just want the patches folder and the changelog right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vctY8DNm62/01:51
wxlcorrect kc2bez 03:10
kc2bezwxl D54 is up.03:30
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KyleHi you all10:22
Kyleanyone here?10:23
Kyle..10:24
Kylehelp....10:29
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Kyleanyone here?10:36
Kyle:-(10:37
Kyle..10:46
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lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 wxl: this means libreoffice-qt5 already exists? https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/tree/control.qt5.in15:20
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lubot<Neyder> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/0DxSvij0/file_6010.mp416:34
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wxl@HMollerCl looks like it18:01
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl looks like it], cool so we only would have to wait untill 6.2 arrives ubuntu.18:02
wxlyep18:02
wxloh hey @kc2bez did that patch compile without problems?????18:02
apt-ghetto@wxl are you a C++ dev?18:02
lubot<kc2bez> @wxl [<wxl> oh hey @kc2bez did that patch compile without problems?????], It seemed to.18:04
wxlapt-ghetto: i grok it enough to read it but i don't write it enough to be very efficient18:05
wxl@kc2bez amazing. cool. this might be easier thani thought!18:05
apt-ghettoI have a question about D54: I saw that there is the string literal "metadata::trust" in several places in the fileinfo.cpp18:06
lubot<kc2bez> I hope I didn't miss anything but it seems good.18:06
apt-ghettoIn Java I would create a constant and replace the strings with the constant18:07
apt-ghettoSo in C++ it would look like `const char metadataTrust[] = "metadata::trust"`18:07
wxli think that's more of a style thing than anything18:08
apt-ghettoand in the code it would look like `if(const auto data = g_file_info_get_attribute_string(inf_.get(), metadataTrust)) {`18:08
wxlhowever, i tend to use constants when i know i have to refer to an important value often that will get used in a lot of places and has the potential to change18:09
wxlthe "potential to change" here is questionable, at least in the minds of the upstream developers18:09
apt-ghettoIIf you have the string literal only once, there are no typos and changing this literal is just in one line18:09
apt-ghettoSo I think, they would accept upstream a change of this kind18:10
wxlthey might18:10
apt-ghettoand we have to patch only this line18:10
wxlupstream is a bunch of poo poos18:10
wxlyou're welcome to submit a pull request but i can just imagine it being shot down18:11
wxlthey sometimes seem to interpret "KISS" as "do the least amount of work as possible"18:11
apt-ghettoKISS is a good design principle, but also DRY18:12
wxlthe choir hears you, preacher18:13
apt-ghettoI can make a Pull request this friday or saturday18:13
wxljust don't be shocked if they shoot it down18:14
apt-ghettobut I preferred to hear the opinion of some C++ dev or at least of someone who is more familiar with C++18:14
lubot<lynorian> I got bumped to next release litterally changing one character but that might just be when I submitted a patch a few days before release18:14
apt-ghettoIf they shoot me for technical reasons, I have no problems with it, because I learn something from it18:15
wxlhonestly i see it as more of a design principle issue than something specific to a language18:15
apt-ghettoAs far as I understand the reason for "trust" instead of "trusted", it is because Gnome is not a standard18:15
apt-ghetto@kc2bez what is your opinion?18:16
wxlthere's not a written standard but the de facto standard is trusted18:17
wxlLXQt initially wrote it with trust and despite the information about gnome, they don't want to bother with it18:17
wxlit's essentially a laziness issue18:17
lubot<kc2bez> In an ideal world upstream would be the best place.18:18
lubot<kc2bez> I'm not a C++ Dev either.18:18
lubot<kc2bez> We just need it work.18:19
wxl@apt-ghetto: you can see their "logic" starting with my question here https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/pull/242#issuecomment-42991820518:19
ubot93Pull 242 in lxqt/libfm-qt "Support adding metadata for trusting executables" [Merged]18:19
apt-ghettoYes, I saw it18:21
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lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 wxl: have you had time to look into the software-properties-qt additional driver tab?18:53
wxlno18:53
wxland today is a bad day for me on that but it's on my todo list (along with a million other things)18:53
lubot<HMollerCl> ok, it's only that next week I will be on vacation and in march I start a new job, so I won't have much time to do changes if they are needed.18:54
wxl@tsimonq2: could you please take a look at that today ^^???18:55
lubot<HMollerCl> question, there are 2 forms of deleting, back and formward, yes? how are they called in english? backspace and ????19:16
lynorianit is the delete key in English19:16
lubot<HMollerCl> delete is back? (teh key above enter/return)?19:17
wxlbackspace is deleting to the left; delete is deleting to the right19:17
lubot<HMollerCl> aaa, ok, perfect19:17
lubot<HMollerCl> thanks19:17
wxlusually backspace is by enter and delete is by insert19:17
lynorianno 19:17
lubot<HMollerCl> backspace doesn't work in calc with VCL=qt519:17
lynoriandid it before?19:17
lubot<HMollerCl> thanks got it19:18
lubot<HMollerCl> @lynorian [<lynorian> did it before?], 6.2 is the first to have qt5, but with other VCL it wokds19:18
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lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: could you please take a look at that today ^^???], Ok20:12
lubot<HMollerCl> it was already reported teh backsapce problem https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12223820:24
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