| didrocks | good morning | 07:11 |
|---|---|---|
| jibel | Salut didrocks | 07:15 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks & jibel | 07:25 |
| jibel | Hi duflu | 07:27 |
| ricotz | good morning | 07:33 |
| ricotz | could someone merge this https://code.launchpad.net/%7Erobert-ancell/libunity/update-deprecation-tags/+merge/353363 | 07:33 |
| didrocks | salut jibel, duflu, ricotz | 07:44 |
| duflu | Morning ricotz. I would but am not familiar with that change | 07:54 |
| duflu | And its author is in a different time zone. So try again tomorrow | 07:55 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 08:03 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN | 08:07 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 08:07 |
| ricotz | duflu, thanks, this simply fixes a deprecation warning of valac (since 0.32) by moving to the new attribute | 08:16 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 08:17 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 08:17 |
| oSoMoN | good morning ricotz | 08:17 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, hey | 08:18 |
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| willcooke | morning | 08:58 |
| willcooke | and brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 08:58 |
| seb128 | bck, good morning desktopers! | 09:00 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke, brrrr it is indeed | 09:01 |
| willcooke | hi seb128 | 09:01 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 09:01 |
| oSoMoN | morning willcooke | 09:01 |
| willcooke | -6 | 09:01 |
| * seb128 had tennis training yesterday, outside, we played under an icy rain for 15 min *g* | 09:01 | |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN | 09:01 |
| willcooke | :( | 09:01 |
| oSoMoN | extreme tennis | 09:01 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke, seb128 | 09:02 |
| willcooke | hi didrocks oSoMoN | 09:03 |
| Laney | BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²² | 09:03 |
| willcooke | morning Laney | 09:03 |
| Laney | moin willcooke | 09:03 |
| cpaelzer | seb128: sounds more like "hit the flying icicle" than tennis | 09:03 |
| willcooke | :D | 09:03 |
| Laney | could be worse https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/dp3tvwymr#?date=2019-01-31 | 09:04 |
| willcooke | wow | 09:04 |
| seb128 | cpaelzer, :) | 09:04 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 09:07 |
| Laney | hey didrocks | 09:11 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 09:11 |
| didrocks | still answering MP comments on things unrelated to the MP ;) Quite time-consuming, otherwise good and ready for tomorrow, you? | 09:17 |
| Laney | /o\ | 09:28 |
| Laney | yeah alright, looking forward to the delights of bruxxxxelelelelelslsslsls | 09:28 |
| seb128 | wish fosdem was in barcelona instead | 09:32 |
| seb128 | brussel with that weather :/ | 09:32 |
| Laney | hey seb128 | 09:36 |
| Laney | indeed, classic fosdem | 09:36 |
| didrocks | Waow, the Go room went from a room with 146 seats to a room with 446 seats \o/ | 09:45 |
| willcooke | I've updated the release notes for Bionic with some bugs which got fixed for .2. Could someone fact check me? | 10:00 |
| willcooke | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes | 10:00 |
| seb128 | didrocks, planning to go go again this year? ;) | 10:05 |
| didrocks | yep! Saturday ;) | 10:06 |
| seb128 | lol | 10:06 |
| seb128 | willcooke, sounds good to me, you are happy for the selection of do you want people to check if they have ones worth mentioning as well? | 10:07 |
| tjaalton | did the alt-tab behaviour change in disco? | 10:09 |
| seb128 | yes | 10:09 |
| tjaalton | any way to get the old one back? | 10:10 |
| seb128 | it's showing windows now and not applications | 10:10 |
| seb128 | use super-tab | 10:10 |
| seb128 | or change the keybinding in the settings | 10:10 |
| tjaalton | ok | 10:10 |
| tjaalton | thanks | 10:10 |
| seb128 | we just inverted the keybindings default | 10:10 |
| seb128 | you like than picking an app raise all its windows? | 10:10 |
| seb128 | just curious, I'm still trying to understand what user think about those interactions | 10:11 |
| tjaalton | I like being able to change between apps which are in different screens | 10:11 |
| seb128 | the app switcher does that but not the windows one? | 10:11 |
| * seb128 uses only 1 screen | 10:12 | |
| tjaalton | yes | 10:12 |
| seb128 | k, thx | 10:12 |
| seb128 | willcooke, ^ if you keep track of feedback on those changes | 10:12 |
| tjaalton | app switcher only shows the apps in the same screen | 10:12 |
| tjaalton | i use a 2x3 layout | 10:12 |
| seb128 | you use 6 screens?! | 10:12 |
| tjaalton | one has three terminators, one for tbird, four for firefox | 10:13 |
| seb128 | or are you talking about worskpaces? (but GNOME doesn't let you configure a static grid, does it?) | 10:13 |
| tjaalton | workspaces | 10:13 |
| tjaalton | right | 10:13 |
| tjaalton | using the workspace grid extension | 10:13 |
| tjaalton | can't live without it :) | 10:13 |
| seb128 | k :) | 10:13 |
| seb128 | thx for the feedback | 10:14 |
| didrocks | hum, my alt-tab didn't change here | 10:15 |
| didrocks | I saw that we now have the date in the panel though | 10:15 |
| oSoMoN | willcooke, firefox 65 is now in bionic-updates, so it should be in 18.04.2, right? | 10:17 |
| willcooke | was in a meeting, reading scrollback | 10:24 |
| willcooke | seb128, I'm happy, with the selection, but yeah, would be good for people to add their own. I will send an email | 10:25 |
| willcooke | oSoMoN, thanks! I should have apt updated before I wrote that | 10:26 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it's the default keybinding that changed, you probably played with that at some point and have an user config and not the default anymore | 10:27 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, @firefox, correct | 10:27 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, do you have a link for the changes? I didn't see any recent ubuntu-settings uploads | 10:28 |
| willcooke | tjaalton, thanks for the feedback. I'd be interested to know if you were able to change the binding easily. e.g. should we document that process some more? | 10:29 |
| seb128 | didrocks, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/402105979/ubuntu-settings_18.10.6_18.10.7.diff.gz | 10:30 |
| tjaalton | willcooke: yes, changed it from the gui | 10:30 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, do you know anyone you could nag to review https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libice/merge_requests/1 ? | 10:30 |
| gitbot | lib issue (Merge request) 1 in libice "authutil: save IceAuthFile on XDG_RUNTIME_DIR if set" [Opened] | 10:30 |
| didrocks | seb128: ah, that old! I stopped at .8 So yeah, I probably have it overriden for long… | 10:30 |
| didrocks | weird though ;) | 10:30 |
| * didrocks reverts the 4 keys | 10:30 | |
| didrocks | hum, reset, restarted the shell and I still have the default keybindings | 10:32 |
| didrocks | weird | 10:32 |
| didrocks | my machine isn't that tweaked though | 10:32 |
| didrocks | gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-windows | 10:33 |
| didrocks | @as [] | 10:33 |
| didrocks | ah | 10:33 |
| didrocks | interesting, a local ubuntu-settings version | 10:33 |
| tjaalton | seb128: pinged alanc | 10:33 |
| didrocks | wondering how I got the date appearing in the panel change then | 10:33 |
| seb128 | andyrock, didrocks, sorry for those trello change adding/removing a libnice url to card, seems like middle click on a tab doesn't only open in a new tab but also insert the in-buffer content to the card | 10:34 |
| didrocks | seb128: no worry, easy to delete | 10:34 |
| seb128 | yeah, I did that now | 10:34 |
| didrocks | ok, got after reinstalling ubuntu-settings | 10:35 |
| didrocks | and restarting the Shell | 10:35 |
| oSoMoN | willcooke, thunderbird was updated to 60.4.0, in case you consider this release notes worthy | 10:35 |
| didrocks | weird that I had this panel change, probably not in ubuntu-settings | 10:35 |
| didrocks | willcooke: so, with this default change, do we still want the patch for "quick alt-tab" when switching between windows? | 10:36 |
| didrocks | as I guess most of people will just use alt-tab to switch between the last 2 windows now | 10:36 |
| seb128 | didrocks, the panel change is from upstream I think | 10:36 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh? waow, I thought we did this :) | 10:36 |
| didrocks | also G-S merged the dependent MP for MP1 (as they wanted to rewrite the extension panel) but didn't ping or tell "let's merge MP1" | 10:37 |
| didrocks | I have to rebase on a large change again | 10:37 |
| willcooke | oSoMoN, thanks, added | 10:37 |
| willcooke | didrocks, @ patch - yes I think so. Thats what we talked about on email the other day right? | 10:38 |
| didrocks | willcooke: yeah, I thought it was still alt-tab at the time | 10:38 |
| didrocks | but as now we have alt-tab for windows switching and super-tab for app switching, I guess people using super-tab knows that they really want to switch between apps | 10:39 |
| didrocks | and so, raise all windows | 10:39 |
| didrocks | I would be for dropping our patch thus | 10:39 |
| willcooke | ahhhh | 10:39 |
| willcooke | Right | 10:39 |
| willcooke | Yes | 10:39 |
| willcooke | With the change of bindings, it wont make any difference | 10:40 |
| didrocks | yep | 10:40 |
| willcooke | so yeah, one less patch = wooo | 10:40 |
| didrocks | ok, I'll do that in git this afternoon, no need for an upload right away | 10:40 |
| didrocks | yes ;) | 10:40 |
| didrocks | next upload will pick it | 10:40 |
| apw | didrocks, i just lost my alt-tab binding ... is that related ? | 11:32 |
| seb128 | apw, 'lost'? | 11:32 |
| apw | it was working, i undocked, gnome shell crashed as it is wont to do | 11:33 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho[3v1n0]: hey! I was looking at the gnome-shell SRU in bionic and I'm a bit confused with some things | 11:33 |
| apw | logging back in, it now does nothing, and using the gsettings thing above it says '[disabled]' | 11:33 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho[3v1n0]: like, many of the fixes in the bionic upload didn't seem to be marked as fixed by the cosmic upload | 11:33 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho[3v1n0]: were all the bugs mentioned in the bionic changelog also fixed in the cosmic 3.30.2? | 11:34 |
| seb128 | apw, weird... | 11:36 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, Laney, the SRU question you might know about? ^ | 11:36 |
| apw | seb128, pretty much what happens on every update, settings are just mangled randomly | 11:36 |
| seb128 | apw, that sounds weird, I never saw that happening or being mentioned here before ... do you use a weird fs or have disk errors or something? | 11:37 |
| apw | none of the above | 11:37 |
| seb128 | k, well I don't know then | 11:37 |
| apw | i've menetioned it here a few times, because it is really annoying we never honour my bindings, just wack over them | 11:37 |
| seb128 | open a bug with the journalctl log from around the time your lost your config? | 11:38 |
| seb128 | do you always loose the same bindings or is it random? | 11:38 |
| apw | seb128, i suspect we will find it is aside-effect of gnome shell just shitting bricks when i remove my external monitor | 11:38 |
| apw | that it is humping the settings db in the proces | 11:38 |
| apw | though i did think that my crahsing on removal from the dock was meant to be fixed by now, sigh | 11:39 |
| seb128 | would be good to have a gsettings list-recursively dump before and after | 11:39 |
| seb128 | can you ubuntu-bug report that crash and give us the bug number? | 11:39 |
| seb128 | I also though we had fixed those issues | 11:39 |
| seb128 | what serie about on? bionic? | 11:39 |
| apw | disco | 11:39 |
| seb128 | hum | 11:40 |
| seb128 | well please report the crash | 11:40 |
| apw | like everyone in the company | 11:40 |
| seb128 | and give us the number | 11:40 |
| apw | the crash has not been reported to apport i don't think, sigh | 11:40 |
| seb128 | yeah, I'm just surprise those "segfault when undocking" still exist in disco | 11:40 |
| seb128 | hum | 11:40 |
| seb128 | is apport working? | 11:40 |
| seb128 | what is in the journal? | 11:40 |
| apw | it seems switch-windows is not a thingin the settings panel either | 11:40 |
| seb128 | what? | 11:41 |
| apw | oh its not in the windows section, obviously | 11:41 |
| apw | ok at least that is back | 11:41 |
| seb128 | good | 11:41 |
| seb128 | but yeah, please pastebin/report at least the journal log | 11:42 |
| seb128 | that crash on undock issue I'm not sure it's on our active list but it should if someone can still reproduce | 11:42 |
| seb128 | if apport doesn't work at least the journal should say if it's a segfault, js error, other... | 11:42 |
| apw | seb128, looks like it said: | 11:42 |
| apw | Jan 31 11:35:50 brain gnome-shell[22406]: setup_framebuffers: assertion 'width > 0' failed | 11:42 |
| seb128 | hum, there is no bugs that seeem to match that on launchpad or upstream | 11:45 |
| seb128 | why is apport not working? | 11:45 |
| seb128 | looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1729028 which duflu closed asking to report with apport | 11:47 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1729028 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashes when monitor sleeps or is turned off" [High,Invalid] | 11:47 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: mh, I saw the email for some of them but iirc the comsic upload should be basically the same that went in disco | 12:26 |
| Trevinho | isn't it? | 12:26 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: I replied for one, not sure if you noticed others... | 12:36 |
| === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk | ||
| willcooke | night all | 18:09 |
| willcooke | those travelling tomorrow, have a great weekend | 18:09 |
| ricotz | fyi https://launchpad.net/zeitgeist/1.0/1.0.2 | 18:58 |
| * xnox frantickly typing slides for the weekend | 19:03 | |
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