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vorlon#startmeeting16:01
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Jan 31 16:01:49 2019 UTC.  The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:01
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vorlon[TOPIC] Lightning round16:02
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
vorlon echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)16:02
vorlonwell that's no good16:02
vorlonvorlon xnox cyphermox doko waveform sil2100 rbalint tdaitx bdmurray mwhudson juliank infinity16:02
xnoxha16:02
xnoxi'm ready for once to be at the start =)16:02
juliankbut slow please16:03
juliank:)16:03
xnoxhahahhahha16:03
vorlon * long time, no see!16:03
vorlon * two weeks ago: roadmap sprint in Cape Town16:03
vorlon * last week: traveling back Monday; off Tue-Fri16:03
vorlon  * which means I was spending time on the readline transition and nodejs16:03
vorlon * this week:16:03
vorlon  * Ubuntu Core 20 stratemagizing16:03
vorlon  * Secure Boot discussions w/ partner16:03
vorlon  * proposed-migration transitions16:03
vorlon  * 18.04.2 is next week, a little bit of kibbitzing to go with it16:03
vorlon(done)16:03
vorlonxnox:16:03
xnox* systemd v240 in disco-proposed16:03
xnox - more adt tests fixes/hunting16:03
xnox - filed lxd/apparmor issue (thanks for rbasak report)16:03
xnox - which lxd team has fixed, will be releasing16:03
xnox* ubuiquity sru for .2 release16:03
xnox - uploaded, verified, and released16:03
xnox* proposed migration16:03
bdmurrayjuliank: the key is to ask questions16:03
xnox - working on unblocking systemd16:03
xnox - also fixed up git migration blockers16:03
xnox* powerpc16:03
xnox - valgrind bugfix16:03
xnox* s390x16:03
xnox - s390-tools SRUs for xenial & cosmic in unapproved16:03
xnox* prepering slides for the systemd-resolved talk for fosdem16:03
xnox* off to FOSDEM tomorrow, through sunday16:03
xnox(done)16:04
cyphermox- started attending UEFI Spec Working Group weekly call16:04
cyphermox- e2fsprogs: SRU for corruption when resizing (bug LP: #1798562)16:04
cyphermox- debugging/questions in #netplan16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1798562 in e2fsprogs (Ubuntu Cosmic) "After a side by side installation, resized filesystem is corrupted" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179856216:04
cyphermox- various SRU verifications for grub (trusty, bionic, cosmic)16:04
cyphermox- Secure Boot: DKMS/shim SRUs for trusty/xenial, preparing GRUB SRU for SB enforcing on bionic16:04
cyphermox- partman-efi: improve catching of missing ESP early in installer (bionic)16:04
cyphermox- ubiquity: merge bind-mount for efivars (waiting to rebuild with partman-efi as well)16:04
cyphermox(done)16:04
bdmurraydoko:16:04
doko- handling -proposed ...16:05
doko- isolated and forwarded three more GCC issues upstream16:05
doko- GCC 7 & GCC 8 updates16:05
doko- having fun with the new laptop, crashing when the screen blanks :-/16:05
doko(done)16:05
bdmurraywaveform:16:05
waveform* Back-porting arm64 fix to gpiozero (now applied upstream)16:05
dokoohh, and getting binutils ready for disco ...16:05
waveform* WiringPi packaging ongoing (got something that builds and works locally, but not in a PPA ...)16:05
waveform* Investigating regressions caused by python3-numpy (something's changed in matmul?)16:05
waveform* Got Pi3 builds working locally (yay!) but not booting (boo!) - missing kernel+initrd in boot partition16:05
waveform* U-boot has received a stay of execution on Pi16:05
waveform* Testing images (including armhf) on various Pis (2B, 3B, 3B+, CM3)16:05
waveform* RPi.GPIO packaging done - poke sil2100 for sponsorship :)16:05
waveform(done)16:06
xnoxdoko, eewww what laptop is it?16:06
juliankok we can go faster now16:06
sil2100waveform: I confirmed that the daily-built images boot so I guess it was something busted in the local live-build run, let's debug it later ;p16:06
bdmurrayalso poke sil2100 since its his turn16:06
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases16:06
sil2100- raspi3 'upstreaming':16:06
sil2100  * Removing unneeded files from linux-firmware-raspi2 and re-releasing16:06
sil2100  * Validating current state of arm64 raspi3 images, sending images to CE16:06
waveformsil2100, yup - sorry! :)16:06
sil2100  * Creating future-work cards for missing pi3 work16:06
sil2100  * Fixed build-ability of the classic gadget tree with snapcraft16:06
sil2100  * Added full-cross-compilation support to the gadget tree with snapcraft16:06
sil2100  * Discussed the road forward with pi3 support16:06
sil2100- core18 code reviews16:06
sil2100- Verifying pl langpacks16:06
sil2100- Release of 18.04.2 verified langpacks16:06
sil2100- Fixed libdbusmenu and libidn FTBFS in bionic16:06
sil2100- Tested core18 pi3 arm64 gadget snap locally, sent for CE testing16:06
sil2100- Prepared json blob for signing, waiting for naming consensus16:06
sil2100- Investigated Bileto autopkgtest test-result reporting not working due to cache invalidation16:06
sil2100(done)16:07
tdaitxrbalint is out right?16:07
bdmurraytdaitx: yes16:07
tdaitxShort week: working half-days16:07
tdaitx* openjdk-11 transition16:07
tdaitx  - documenting the approach & timeline16:07
tdaitx  - transition will include backports into bionic-security so rechecking for additional backports16:07
tdaitx  - triaging failed rebuilds and testing fixes16:07
tdaitx* ongoing openjdk-8 update to 8u20116:07
tdaitx  - merge conflicts after m4 autoconf files were updated upstream16:07
tdaitx  - massaging autopkgtest scripts to fail only on _regressions_16:07
tdaitxOther:16:07
tdaitx- flying tomorrow afternoon to Brussels16:07
tdaitx- at FOSDEM during the weekend16:07
tdaitx- at OpenJDK workshop on Monday16:07
tdaitx- taking a train to Stuttgart Tuesday afternoon (hopefully it will have a working internet connection)16:07
tdaitx(done)16:07
bdmurraymodifications to ET mojo spec to use autocert (still in progress)16:08
dokoGerman trains and working internet, hahahahha ...16:08
bdmurraywrote a blog post about PPAs and upgrading releases of Ubuntu16:08
bdmurrayreplaced kernel bug triage contact person in bugbot scripts16:08
bdmurrayuploaded a fix for apport-symptoms gnome-session bug LP: #181342816:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1813428 in apport-symptoms (Ubuntu) ""sorry, you are not running GNOME or KDE" while running GNOME" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181342816:08
bdmurrayreview of bugs tagged rls-bb-incoming16:08
bdmurraysubmitted ubiquity MP re not logging "Ecryptfs is deprecated" in every bug16:08
bdmurrayspecial SRU reviews for sil210016:08
juliankdoko: worked for me16:08
bdmurray✔ done16:08
bdmurrayjuliank:16:08
juliankoh, is it already my time?16:08
sil2100bdmurray: thanks again for those!16:09
juliank* apt SRUs16:09
juliank* gnupg2 autopkgtest replacement16:09
bdmurrayyou'd said to go fast now16:09
juliank* networkd-dispatcher bug 178749516:09
ubottubug 1787495 in networkd-dispatcher (Ubuntu Cosmic) "no explanation for the events in the networkd-dispatcher manpage" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178749516:09
juliank* apt hardening16:09
juliank* apt merge request reviewing and merging (thanks mvo for json hook EPIPE fix)16:09
juliank* hddemux 0.4-7ubuntu0.1 SRU for bug 181406216:09
ubottubug 1814062 in hddemux (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Failing autopkgtest on cosmic" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181406216:09
juliank(done)16:09
* juliank almost pastged in #ubuntu-installer16:09
juliankdoko: ok, the on-board wifi is crap, but luckily I had lte :)16:09
bdmurrayinfinity doesn't seem to be in here16:10
bdmurrayvorlon: what's next on the agenda? there was some discussion at the last minute about what the agenda should really be16:12
bdmurrays/minute/meeting/16:13
vorlonok, what was the outcome of that discussion?16:14
vorlon[TOPIC] Bugs16:14
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs
bdmurraywell doko wanted to add a whole bunch of stuff16:14
dokobdmurray: don't you see the rls-bb-incoming bugs?16:15
bdmurraydoko: ?16:15
dokoLINK: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs16:15
vorlondoko: can you email the foundations list with any proposed additions to the agendas so that there's a paper trail?16:15
dokodidn't we agree on that already two weeks ago?16:16
vorlonagree on what?16:16
vorlonI wasn't here 2 weeks ago so I don't know what was agreed16:16
dokoto walk over https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs16:16
dokoevery week16:16
vorlonok; the current topic is bugs. bdmurray ?16:17
bdmurraybug 177222216:17
ubottubug 1772222 in rsyslog (Ubuntu Bionic) "dangling symlink in /etc/rsyslog.d breaks rsyslogd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177222216:17
xnoxthat bug number is ugly16:17
bdmurrayI found that when I was reviewing the rls-bb-incoming bugs16:17
bdmurrayxnox: 4 of a kind!16:17
vorlonbdmurray: throw it to the backlog?16:18
vorlonrather, I will16:18
bdmurrayIs that conjure-up's fault though?16:18
bdmurrayvorlon: ack, thanks16:19
vorlonI think it's rsyslog's fault that it breaks under these conditions16:19
xnoxbdmurray, both.16:19
xnoxbdmurray, conjure-up should have cleaned up its mess; and rsyslog should be more resiliant16:19
vorloncard created16:19
vorlonbdmurray: next?16:19
bdmurrayokay, moving on bug 1766102 - adam targetted it to bionic and I wonder if it really should be16:20
ubottubug 1766102 in debhelper (Ubuntu Bionic) "dh_installchangelogs fails if version is 0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176610216:20
bdmurrayor rather should we tag it notfixing16:20
vorlonbdmurray: agreed, notfixing16:21
vorlonif infinity has another reason to think it should be SRUed, he can follow up16:22
bdmurrayjuliank: you seemed to have some idea about bug 1801629. Should it be fixed in ubiquity?16:22
ubottubug 1801629 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Disco) "xubuntu-core needs to depend on cryptsetup and lvm2 or 'apt autoremove' will make a LUKS+LVM encrypted root partition non-bootable" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180162916:22
juliankbdmurray: yes, it should16:23
juliankbdmurray: it's just a matter of running the command from the comment in the installed system after having done all package changes16:23
cyphermoxso they dropped relevant deps from their seed?16:23
vorlonno, we changed the behavior of autoremoval16:23
juliankcyphermox: the problem is that my "manually installed" minimization script runs on the "live" image16:23
cyphermoxah, right16:24
juliankit marks the packages as auto that are reachable from a metapackage16:24
vorlonjuliank: are you on track to fix that for 18.04.2, given the bug targeting?16:24
vorlon(upload deadline: yesterday or so)16:24
juliankand cryptsetup and friend are recommended for that16:24
juliankvorlon: I have no idea of ubiquity code, so maybe someone else wants to take that over16:25
juliankvorlon: ah, but this only affects 18.10, not 18.0416:25
bdmurrayoh, well then that makes things easier16:25
juliankexcept for the OEM image which seems to do its own thing16:25
vorlonoh, ok16:27
vorlonmoving on then?16:27
juliankguess so16:28
bdmurraywhat actions should we take on that? card it for disco, won't fix for cosmic and something else for oem?16:28
juliankthere is a card for it in committed, it might want to go the the backlog16:28
juliankI pulled it into in progress for analysing16:29
juliankI might keep it open for cosmic in case we do a respin for apt16:29
vorlonso it sounds to me like everything that needs doing is done16:31
bdmurrayokay, then bug 1811695 - juliank do you have an opinion on what update-manager / aptdaemon should be doing here?16:32
ubottubug 1811695 in update-manager (Ubuntu Disco) "/usr/bin/update-manager:RuntimeError(org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.RuntimeError):_on_clicked:_deferable:_convert_dbus_exception:_convert_dbus_exception:cancel:__call__:call_blocking:wait_for_lock:acquire:acquire:_inline_callbacks:get_uid_from_dbus_name:return_value:_inline_callbacks:_cancel:_inline_callbacks" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181169516:32
juliankthat's a long title16:33
juliankam16:33
juliankum16:33
juliankwait and retry16:33
juliankkind of similar to what mvo had in mind for apt: https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/merge_requests/616:34
juliank"apt: retry acquire the cache if it is already locked for 120s"16:34
juliankin any case, that should not be a new bug16:34
gaughenvorlon, cyphermox has a wiki page, I think, for running this meeting - could we move to using that consistently?  then if we all agree to add a topic, we can just update that16:35
bdmurrayjuliank: you mean not new for disco?16:35
juliankyeah, that sounds like a generic thing16:35
vorlongaughen: ok, no one has told me where this wiki page is :)16:35
bdmurrayjuliank: okay, I'll look for previous ones16:35
bdmurrayvorlon: that's because he's making it right now16:35
cyphermoxnot wiki16:36
cyphermoxhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~cyphermox/meetings/foundations.html16:36
bdmurraysince gaughen called him out ;-)16:36
gaughenclose enough.. I almost said a wiki-like-thng16:36
gaughenthing16:36
juliankbdmurray: could also pop up a diaalog saying "Busy, try again later" or something I guess16:36
vorlonnot editable16:36
vorloncyphermox: can you move it to the wiki? :)16:36
cyphermoxnope.16:36
vorlonok16:36
vorlonmy browser can't read people.u.c16:36
cyphermoxbecause there's javascript in there, to shuffle16:36
vorlonI guess we'll never know what it says16:36
vorlonheh16:36
cyphermox:)16:36
cyphermoxyour browser can't p.u.c?16:37
bdmurrayjuliank: oky, thanks16:37
vorloncyphermox: yes, it's difficult that way16:37
cyphermox"what a p.o.s" ;)16:37
vorlonit protects me from viewing sites that people won't let me edit16:37
cyphermoxhahaha16:37
xnox  win16:38
vorlonbdmurray: any more on bugs?16:38
cyphermoxpoint is, it could sure be elsewhere than specifically there16:38
bdmurrayIf I can't fix it, I don't want to see it.16:38
cyphermoxI'm sure we could have a ~foundations or something so everyone could modify.16:38
bdmurrayvorlon: nope, not today16:38
vorlonok16:38
bdmurrayeveryone could modify but vorlon couldn't see?16:39
juliankI can't even ssh into those servers as me I think16:39
vorlon[TOPIC] Team proposed-migration report16:39
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Team proposed-migration report
vorlon[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs16:40
vorlondoko: is this your topic to drive?16:40
juliank(it should be...)16:41
dokoI can, ...16:41
xnoxsystemd is in a better shape now, but still not migratable yet16:41
juliankdoko is our excuses wizard, right?16:41
dokothings to look at: spice16:41
xnoxand juliank was doing gnupg stuff, no?16:41
dokoenigmail16:41
dokoheat-dashboard16:41
juliankxnox: yeah, I replaced the autopkgtest16:41
vorlonI'm confused by spice, because lz4 didn't previously list it as a blocker16:41
dokolintian ftbfs16:41
dokobuls16:42
vorlonah spice has a new version in -proposed that passed for the first time16:42
dokovuls even16:42
dokoxnox: gnupg2 is fixed?16:42
vorlonso we can badtest && rerun the test with all-proposed (doing)16:42
juliankvorlon: that is annoying16:42
vorlonthat leaves systemd as the lz4 blocker16:42
juliankdoko: yes, gnupg2 is fixed16:42
juliankneed to retrigger16:42
xnoxhmmmm heat-dashboard & horizon is like jamespage and/or his friends?16:42
xnoxmaybe coreycb16:43
vorlonxnox: if we rerun systemd autopkgtests for lz4 with all-proposed are they going to pass now?16:43
xnoxvorlon, yes v239 is broken for lz4, v240 is fixed for lz416:43
xnoxvorlon, but there are other systemd regressions in v24016:43
xnoxvorlon, it is safe to release lz4 without systemd16:43
dokojuliank: can you do that?16:43
juliankyes16:43
vorlonxnox: ok, will override16:43
xnoxvorlon, the systemd test suite was "lets test a bug in lz4, yeah, still there" but now 'lz4 is fixed and not buggy'16:43
coreycbxnox: yes heat-dashboard & horizon are ours16:43
xnoxcoreycb, please fix them =) or pester people. they look hot on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs16:44
xnoxcoreycb, well ubuntu-openstack portion of the report16:44
vorlonxnox: this will of course make systemd autopkgtests fail consistently in devel, but that's more or less status quo16:44
xnoxvorlon, yes!16:44
coreycbxnox: will do16:44
vorlonok, hinted16:44
dokojuliank: gnupg2 triggers some failing tests itself16:45
sil2100I could try looking at heat-dashboard I guess?16:45
sil2100Ah, coreycb is on it16:45
sil2100Goooood16:46
sil2100;)16:46
juliankdoko: meh, there are no changes in gnupg outside debian/tests16:46
xnoxvorlon, ah, looks there is upstream progress https://github.com/kapouer/marked-man/issues/1916:47
juliankxnox: The user named '~xnox' has no PPA named 'ubuntu/nonvirt'16:47
vorlonxnox: huzzah16:47
juliankxnox: failing software-properties test case16:47
xnoxjuliank, that one is dangerous!16:47
xnoxno no that's different!16:47
juliankxnox: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-disco/disco/armhf/s/software-properties/20190130_180736_23562@/log.gz16:48
juliankxnox: but only one failure, that's odd16:48
vorlonxnox: are you taking an action to follow up w/ coreycb and jamespage on heat-dashboard, horizon?16:49
vorlonoh, coreycb already replied, sorry ;)16:49
juliankxnox: it's working on the test after16:49
xnoxadd-apt-repository ppa:xnox/nonvirt --yes --no-update16:50
vorlondoko: you seem to have skipped over pillow in your list; perhaps you know the status but I don't16:50
xnoxi'll work on software-properties adt16:50
dokovorlon: mir pending security review16:51
vorlonok16:51
xnox$ lxc launch ubuntu-daily:disco16:51
xnoxcannot read mount namespace identifier of pid 1: Permission denied16:51
vorlondoko: and do you know anything about lintian's ftbfs? "file-references-package-build-path" unexpected output, seems like a toolchain behavior difference vs Debian16:52
dokono, didn't look yet16:52
vorlonok16:52
vorlonsounds like we've identified next steps on a reasonable chunk of these, and the queue is definitely coming don16:53
vorlondown16:53
vorlonso I'm happy with that16:53
vorlondoko: anything further to discuss?16:53
* xnox is afk16:54
coreycbxnox: fyi  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-django-debreach/+bug/1805690  will unblock horizon. it has a security team ack now.16:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1805690 in python-django-debreach (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-django-debreach" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:55
dokono, the other stuff is still grayed out ...16:55
vorlonok16:55
juliankvorlon, doko is that https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=920536?16:55
vorlon[TOPIC] AOB16:55
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
ubottuDebian bug 920536 in src:lintian "lintian: fails to build because of test failure" [Serious,Open]16:55
juliankFix FTBFS by avoiding "self" false-positives when checking for file-references-package-build-path in the Lintian test suite. (Closes: #920536)16:55
vorlonjuliank: yes; so how about if I just remove the package from -proposed and wait for Debian to fix it (thanks)16:55
vorlonanything else?16:56
cyphermoxyep16:56
cyphermoxI'll put the meeting stuff on the wiki under FoundationsTeam/16:56
cyphermoxvorlon: that way we can edit16:56
bdmurrayThere's a FoundationsTam wiki?16:56
cyphermoxthere is16:56
cyphermoxit's old16:56
bdmurrayolder than us?16:56
cyphermoxyeah16:56
sil2100Older than the world16:57
cyphermoxI mean. *SO* old16:57
* xnox back16:57
vorloncyphermox: ta16:57
xnoxcoreycb, tah16:57
vorloncyphermox: share the exact link once it exists?16:57
cyphermoxI guess take the opportunity to update the wiki page Members section if you want, too16:57
vorlon(or declare it now, before it exists :)16:57
cyphermoxvorlon: yup16:57
cyphermoxMeetingScript16:58
cyphermoxwhatever.16:58
vorlonok16:58
vorlon#endmeeting16:58
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | <wxl> be nice
meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Jan 31 16:58:18 2019 UTC.16:58
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-01-31-16.01.moin.txt16:58
vorlonthanks, everyone!16:58
sil2100o/16:58

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