[16:00] <sil2100> o/
[16:00]  * vorlon waves
[16:01] <bdmurray> o/
[16:01] <vorlon> #startmeeting
[16:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jan 31 16:01:49 2019 UTC.  The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:02] <vorlon> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[16:02] <vorlon>  echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)
[16:02] <vorlon> well that's no good
[16:02] <vorlon> vorlon xnox cyphermox doko waveform sil2100 rbalint tdaitx bdmurray mwhudson juliank infinity
[16:02] <xnox> ha
[16:02] <xnox> i'm ready for once to be at the start =)
[16:03] <juliank> but slow please
[16:03] <juliank> :)
[16:03] <xnox> hahahhahha
[16:03] <vorlon>  * long time, no see!
[16:03] <vorlon>  * two weeks ago: roadmap sprint in Cape Town
[16:03] <vorlon>  * last week: traveling back Monday; off Tue-Fri
[16:03] <vorlon>   * which means I was spending time on the readline transition and nodejs
[16:03] <vorlon>  * this week:
[16:03] <vorlon>   * Ubuntu Core 20 stratemagizing
[16:03] <vorlon>   * Secure Boot discussions w/ partner
[16:03] <vorlon>   * proposed-migration transitions
[16:03] <vorlon>   * 18.04.2 is next week, a little bit of kibbitzing to go with it
[16:03] <vorlon> (done)
[16:03] <vorlon> xnox:
[16:03] <xnox> * systemd v240 in disco-proposed
[16:03] <xnox>  - more adt tests fixes/hunting
[16:03] <xnox>  - filed lxd/apparmor issue (thanks for rbasak report)
[16:03] <xnox>  - which lxd team has fixed, will be releasing
[16:03] <xnox> * ubuiquity sru for .2 release
[16:03] <xnox>  - uploaded, verified, and released
[16:03] <xnox> * proposed migration
[16:03] <bdmurray> juliank: the key is to ask questions
[16:03] <xnox>  - working on unblocking systemd
[16:03] <xnox>  - also fixed up git migration blockers
[16:03] <xnox> * powerpc
[16:03] <xnox>  - valgrind bugfix
[16:03] <xnox> * s390x
[16:03] <xnox>  - s390-tools SRUs for xenial & cosmic in unapproved
[16:03] <xnox> * prepering slides for the systemd-resolved talk for fosdem
[16:03] <xnox> * off to FOSDEM tomorrow, through sunday
[16:04] <xnox> (done)
[16:04] <cyphermox> - started attending UEFI Spec Working Group weekly call
[16:04] <cyphermox> - e2fsprogs: SRU for corruption when resizing (bug LP: #1798562)
[16:04] <cyphermox> - debugging/questions in #netplan
[16:04] <cyphermox> - various SRU verifications for grub (trusty, bionic, cosmic)
[16:04] <cyphermox> - Secure Boot: DKMS/shim SRUs for trusty/xenial, preparing GRUB SRU for SB enforcing on bionic
[16:04] <cyphermox> - partman-efi: improve catching of missing ESP early in installer (bionic)
[16:04] <cyphermox> - ubiquity: merge bind-mount for efivars (waiting to rebuild with partman-efi as well)
[16:04] <cyphermox> (done)
[16:04] <bdmurray> doko:
[16:05] <doko> - handling -proposed ...
[16:05] <doko> - isolated and forwarded three more GCC issues upstream
[16:05] <doko> - GCC 7 & GCC 8 updates
[16:05] <doko> - having fun with the new laptop, crashing when the screen blanks :-/
[16:05] <doko> (done)
[16:05] <bdmurray> waveform:
[16:05] <waveform> * Back-porting arm64 fix to gpiozero (now applied upstream)
[16:05] <doko> ohh, and getting binutils ready for disco ...
[16:05] <waveform> * WiringPi packaging ongoing (got something that builds and works locally, but not in a PPA ...)
[16:05] <waveform> * Investigating regressions caused by python3-numpy (something's changed in matmul?)
[16:05] <waveform> * Got Pi3 builds working locally (yay!) but not booting (boo!) - missing kernel+initrd in boot partition
[16:05] <waveform> * U-boot has received a stay of execution on Pi
[16:05] <waveform> * Testing images (including armhf) on various Pis (2B, 3B, 3B+, CM3)
[16:05] <waveform> * RPi.GPIO packaging done - poke sil2100 for sponsorship :)
[16:06] <waveform> (done)
[16:06] <xnox> doko, eewww what laptop is it?
[16:06] <juliank> ok we can go faster now
[16:06] <sil2100> waveform: I confirmed that the daily-built images boot so I guess it was something busted in the local live-build run, let's debug it later ;p
[16:06] <bdmurray> also poke sil2100 since its his turn
[16:06] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[16:06] <sil2100> - raspi3 'upstreaming':
[16:06] <sil2100>   * Removing unneeded files from linux-firmware-raspi2 and re-releasing
[16:06] <sil2100>   * Validating current state of arm64 raspi3 images, sending images to CE
[16:06] <waveform> sil2100, yup - sorry! :)
[16:06] <sil2100>   * Creating future-work cards for missing pi3 work
[16:06] <sil2100>   * Fixed build-ability of the classic gadget tree with snapcraft
[16:06] <sil2100>   * Added full-cross-compilation support to the gadget tree with snapcraft
[16:06] <sil2100>   * Discussed the road forward with pi3 support
[16:06] <sil2100> - core18 code reviews
[16:06] <sil2100> - Verifying pl langpacks
[16:06] <sil2100> - Release of 18.04.2 verified langpacks
[16:06] <sil2100> - Fixed libdbusmenu and libidn FTBFS in bionic
[16:06] <sil2100> - Tested core18 pi3 arm64 gadget snap locally, sent for CE testing
[16:06] <sil2100> - Prepared json blob for signing, waiting for naming consensus
[16:06] <sil2100> - Investigated Bileto autopkgtest test-result reporting not working due to cache invalidation
[16:07] <sil2100> (done)
[16:07] <tdaitx> rbalint is out right?
[16:07] <bdmurray> tdaitx: yes
[16:07] <tdaitx> Short week: working half-days
[16:07] <tdaitx> * openjdk-11 transition
[16:07] <tdaitx>   - documenting the approach & timeline
[16:07] <tdaitx>   - transition will include backports into bionic-security so rechecking for additional backports
[16:07] <tdaitx>   - triaging failed rebuilds and testing fixes
[16:07] <tdaitx> * ongoing openjdk-8 update to 8u201
[16:07] <tdaitx>   - merge conflicts after m4 autoconf files were updated upstream
[16:07] <tdaitx>   - massaging autopkgtest scripts to fail only on _regressions_
[16:07] <tdaitx> Other:
[16:07] <tdaitx> - flying tomorrow afternoon to Brussels
[16:07] <tdaitx> - at FOSDEM during the weekend
[16:07] <tdaitx> - at OpenJDK workshop on Monday
[16:07] <tdaitx> - taking a train to Stuttgart Tuesday afternoon (hopefully it will have a working internet connection)
[16:07] <tdaitx> (done)
[16:08] <bdmurray> modifications to ET mojo spec to use autocert (still in progress)
[16:08] <doko> German trains and working internet, hahahahha ...
[16:08] <bdmurray> wrote a blog post about PPAs and upgrading releases of Ubuntu
[16:08] <bdmurray> replaced kernel bug triage contact person in bugbot scripts
[16:08] <bdmurray> uploaded a fix for apport-symptoms gnome-session bug LP: #1813428
[16:08] <bdmurray> review of bugs tagged rls-bb-incoming
[16:08] <bdmurray> submitted ubiquity MP re not logging "Ecryptfs is deprecated" in every bug
[16:08] <bdmurray> special SRU reviews for sil2100
[16:08] <juliank> doko: worked for me
[16:08] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:08] <bdmurray> juliank:
[16:08] <juliank> oh, is it already my time?
[16:09] <sil2100> bdmurray: thanks again for those!
[16:09] <juliank> * apt SRUs
[16:09] <juliank> * gnupg2 autopkgtest replacement
[16:09] <bdmurray> you'd said to go fast now
[16:09] <juliank> * networkd-dispatcher bug 1787495
[16:09] <juliank> * apt hardening
[16:09] <juliank> * apt merge request reviewing and merging (thanks mvo for json hook EPIPE fix)
[16:09] <juliank> * hddemux 0.4-7ubuntu0.1 SRU for bug 1814062
[16:09] <juliank> (done)
[16:09]  * juliank almost pastged in #ubuntu-installer
[16:09] <juliank> doko: ok, the on-board wifi is crap, but luckily I had lte :)
[16:10] <bdmurray> infinity doesn't seem to be in here
[16:12] <bdmurray> vorlon: what's next on the agenda? there was some discussion at the last minute about what the agenda should really be
[16:13] <bdmurray> s/minute/meeting/
[16:14] <vorlon> ok, what was the outcome of that discussion?
[16:14] <vorlon> [TOPIC] Bugs
[16:14] <bdmurray> well doko wanted to add a whole bunch of stuff
[16:15] <doko> bdmurray: don't you see the rls-bb-incoming bugs?
[16:15] <bdmurray> doko: ?
[16:15] <doko> LINK: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:15] <vorlon> doko: can you email the foundations list with any proposed additions to the agendas so that there's a paper trail?
[16:16] <doko> didn't we agree on that already two weeks ago?
[16:16] <vorlon> agree on what?
[16:16] <vorlon> I wasn't here 2 weeks ago so I don't know what was agreed
[16:16] <doko> to walk over https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:16] <doko> every week
[16:17] <vorlon> ok; the current topic is bugs. bdmurray ?
[16:17] <bdmurray> bug 1772222
[16:17] <xnox> that bug number is ugly
[16:17] <bdmurray> I found that when I was reviewing the rls-bb-incoming bugs
[16:17] <bdmurray> xnox: 4 of a kind!
[16:18] <vorlon> bdmurray: throw it to the backlog?
[16:18] <vorlon> rather, I will
[16:18] <bdmurray> Is that conjure-up's fault though?
[16:19] <bdmurray> vorlon: ack, thanks
[16:19] <vorlon> I think it's rsyslog's fault that it breaks under these conditions
[16:19] <xnox> bdmurray, both.
[16:19] <xnox> bdmurray, conjure-up should have cleaned up its mess; and rsyslog should be more resiliant
[16:19] <vorlon> card created
[16:19] <vorlon> bdmurray: next?
[16:20] <bdmurray> okay, moving on bug 1766102 - adam targetted it to bionic and I wonder if it really should be
[16:20] <bdmurray> or rather should we tag it notfixing
[16:21] <vorlon> bdmurray: agreed, notfixing
[16:22] <vorlon> if infinity has another reason to think it should be SRUed, he can follow up
[16:22] <bdmurray> juliank: you seemed to have some idea about bug 1801629. Should it be fixed in ubiquity?
[16:23] <juliank> bdmurray: yes, it should
[16:23] <juliank> bdmurray: it's just a matter of running the command from the comment in the installed system after having done all package changes
[16:23] <cyphermox> so they dropped relevant deps from their seed?
[16:23] <vorlon> no, we changed the behavior of autoremoval
[16:23] <juliank> cyphermox: the problem is that my "manually installed" minimization script runs on the "live" image
[16:24] <cyphermox> ah, right
[16:24] <juliank> it marks the packages as auto that are reachable from a metapackage
[16:24] <vorlon> juliank: are you on track to fix that for 18.04.2, given the bug targeting?
[16:24] <vorlon> (upload deadline: yesterday or so)
[16:24] <juliank> and cryptsetup and friend are recommended for that
[16:25] <juliank> vorlon: I have no idea of ubiquity code, so maybe someone else wants to take that over
[16:25] <juliank> vorlon: ah, but this only affects 18.10, not 18.04
[16:25] <bdmurray> oh, well then that makes things easier
[16:25] <juliank> except for the OEM image which seems to do its own thing
[16:27] <vorlon> oh, ok
[16:27] <vorlon> moving on then?
[16:28] <juliank> guess so
[16:28] <bdmurray> what actions should we take on that? card it for disco, won't fix for cosmic and something else for oem?
[16:28] <juliank> there is a card for it in committed, it might want to go the the backlog
[16:29] <juliank> I pulled it into in progress for analysing
[16:29] <juliank> I might keep it open for cosmic in case we do a respin for apt
[16:31] <vorlon> so it sounds to me like everything that needs doing is done
[16:32] <bdmurray> okay, then bug 1811695 - juliank do you have an opinion on what update-manager / aptdaemon should be doing here?
[16:33] <juliank> that's a long title
[16:33] <juliank> am
[16:33] <juliank> um
[16:33] <juliank> wait and retry
[16:34] <juliank> kind of similar to what mvo had in mind for apt: https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/merge_requests/6
[16:34] <juliank> "apt: retry acquire the cache if it is already locked for 120s"
[16:34] <juliank> in any case, that should not be a new bug
[16:35] <gaughen> vorlon, cyphermox has a wiki page, I think, for running this meeting - could we move to using that consistently?  then if we all agree to add a topic, we can just update that
[16:35] <bdmurray> juliank: you mean not new for disco?
[16:35] <juliank> yeah, that sounds like a generic thing
[16:35] <vorlon> gaughen: ok, no one has told me where this wiki page is :)
[16:35] <bdmurray> juliank: okay, I'll look for previous ones
[16:35] <bdmurray> vorlon: that's because he's making it right now
[16:36] <cyphermox> not wiki
[16:36] <cyphermox> http://people.ubuntu.com/~cyphermox/meetings/foundations.html
[16:36] <bdmurray> since gaughen called him out ;-)
[16:36] <gaughen> close enough.. I almost said a wiki-like-thng
[16:36] <gaughen> thing
[16:36] <juliank> bdmurray: could also pop up a diaalog saying "Busy, try again later" or something I guess
[16:36] <vorlon> not editable
[16:36] <vorlon> cyphermox: can you move it to the wiki? :)
[16:36] <cyphermox> nope.
[16:36] <vorlon> ok
[16:36] <vorlon> my browser can't read people.u.c
[16:36] <cyphermox> because there's javascript in there, to shuffle
[16:36] <vorlon> I guess we'll never know what it says
[16:36] <vorlon> heh
[16:36] <cyphermox> :)
[16:37] <cyphermox> your browser can't p.u.c?
[16:37] <bdmurray> juliank: oky, thanks
[16:37] <vorlon> cyphermox: yes, it's difficult that way
[16:37] <cyphermox> "what a p.o.s" ;)
[16:37] <vorlon> it protects me from viewing sites that people won't let me edit
[16:37] <cyphermox> hahaha
[16:38] <xnox>   win
[16:38] <vorlon> bdmurray: any more on bugs?
[16:38] <cyphermox> point is, it could sure be elsewhere than specifically there
[16:38] <bdmurray> If I can't fix it, I don't want to see it.
[16:38] <cyphermox> I'm sure we could have a ~foundations or something so everyone could modify.
[16:38] <bdmurray> vorlon: nope, not today
[16:38] <vorlon> ok
[16:39] <bdmurray> everyone could modify but vorlon couldn't see?
[16:39] <juliank> I can't even ssh into those servers as me I think
[16:39] <vorlon> [TOPIC] Team proposed-migration report
[16:40] <vorlon> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:40] <vorlon> doko: is this your topic to drive?
[16:41] <juliank> (it should be...)
[16:41] <doko> I can, ...
[16:41] <xnox> systemd is in a better shape now, but still not migratable yet
[16:41] <juliank> doko is our excuses wizard, right?
[16:41] <doko> things to look at: spice
[16:41] <xnox> and juliank was doing gnupg stuff, no?
[16:41] <doko> enigmail
[16:41] <doko> heat-dashboard
[16:41] <juliank> xnox: yeah, I replaced the autopkgtest
[16:41] <vorlon> I'm confused by spice, because lz4 didn't previously list it as a blocker
[16:41] <doko> lintian ftbfs
[16:42] <doko> buls
[16:42] <vorlon> ah spice has a new version in -proposed that passed for the first time
[16:42] <doko> vuls even
[16:42] <doko> xnox: gnupg2 is fixed?
[16:42] <vorlon> so we can badtest && rerun the test with all-proposed (doing)
[16:42] <juliank> vorlon: that is annoying
[16:42] <vorlon> that leaves systemd as the lz4 blocker
[16:42] <juliank> doko: yes, gnupg2 is fixed
[16:42] <juliank> need to retrigger
[16:42] <xnox> hmmmm heat-dashboard & horizon is like jamespage and/or his friends?
[16:43] <xnox> maybe coreycb
[16:43] <vorlon> xnox: if we rerun systemd autopkgtests for lz4 with all-proposed are they going to pass now?
[16:43] <xnox> vorlon, yes v239 is broken for lz4, v240 is fixed for lz4
[16:43] <xnox> vorlon, but there are other systemd regressions in v240
[16:43] <xnox> vorlon, it is safe to release lz4 without systemd
[16:43] <doko> juliank: can you do that?
[16:43] <juliank> yes
[16:43] <vorlon> xnox: ok, will override
[16:43] <xnox> vorlon, the systemd test suite was "lets test a bug in lz4, yeah, still there" but now 'lz4 is fixed and not buggy'
[16:43] <coreycb> xnox: yes heat-dashboard & horizon are ours
[16:44] <xnox> coreycb, please fix them =) or pester people. they look hot on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:44] <xnox> coreycb, well ubuntu-openstack portion of the report
[16:44] <vorlon> xnox: this will of course make systemd autopkgtests fail consistently in devel, but that's more or less status quo
[16:44] <xnox> vorlon, yes!
[16:44] <coreycb> xnox: will do
[16:44] <vorlon> ok, hinted
[16:45] <doko> juliank: gnupg2 triggers some failing tests itself
[16:45] <sil2100> I could try looking at heat-dashboard I guess?
[16:45] <sil2100> Ah, coreycb is on it
[16:46] <sil2100> Goooood
[16:46] <sil2100> ;)
[16:46] <juliank> doko: meh, there are no changes in gnupg outside debian/tests
[16:47] <xnox> vorlon, ah, looks there is upstream progress https://github.com/kapouer/marked-man/issues/19
[16:47] <juliank> xnox: The user named '~xnox' has no PPA named 'ubuntu/nonvirt'
[16:47] <vorlon> xnox: huzzah
[16:47] <juliank> xnox: failing software-properties test case
[16:47] <xnox> juliank, that one is dangerous!
[16:47] <xnox> no no that's different!
[16:48] <juliank> xnox: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-disco/disco/armhf/s/software-properties/20190130_180736_23562@/log.gz
[16:48] <juliank> xnox: but only one failure, that's odd
[16:49] <vorlon> xnox: are you taking an action to follow up w/ coreycb and jamespage on heat-dashboard, horizon?
[16:49] <vorlon> oh, coreycb already replied, sorry ;)
[16:49] <juliank> xnox: it's working on the test after
[16:50] <xnox> add-apt-repository ppa:xnox/nonvirt --yes --no-update
[16:50] <vorlon> doko: you seem to have skipped over pillow in your list; perhaps you know the status but I don't
[16:50] <xnox> i'll work on software-properties adt
[16:51] <doko> vorlon: mir pending security review
[16:51] <vorlon> ok
[16:51] <xnox> $ lxc launch ubuntu-daily:disco
[16:51] <xnox> cannot read mount namespace identifier of pid 1: Permission denied
[16:52] <vorlon> doko: and do you know anything about lintian's ftbfs? "file-references-package-build-path" unexpected output, seems like a toolchain behavior difference vs Debian
[16:52] <doko> no, didn't look yet
[16:52] <vorlon> ok
[16:53] <vorlon> sounds like we've identified next steps on a reasonable chunk of these, and the queue is definitely coming don
[16:53] <vorlon> down
[16:53] <vorlon> so I'm happy with that
[16:53] <vorlon> doko: anything further to discuss?
[16:54]  * xnox is afk
[16:55] <coreycb> xnox: fyi  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-django-debreach/+bug/1805690  will unblock horizon. it has a security team ack now.
[16:55] <doko> no, the other stuff is still grayed out ...
[16:55] <vorlon> ok
[16:55] <juliank> vorlon, doko is that https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=920536?
[16:55] <vorlon> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:55] <juliank> Fix FTBFS by avoiding "self" false-positives when checking for file-references-package-build-path in the Lintian test suite. (Closes: #920536)
[16:55] <vorlon> juliank: yes; so how about if I just remove the package from -proposed and wait for Debian to fix it (thanks)
[16:56] <vorlon> anything else?
[16:56] <cyphermox> yep
[16:56] <cyphermox> I'll put the meeting stuff on the wiki under FoundationsTeam/
[16:56] <cyphermox> vorlon: that way we can edit
[16:56] <bdmurray> There's a FoundationsTam wiki?
[16:56] <cyphermox> there is
[16:56] <cyphermox> it's old
[16:56] <bdmurray> older than us?
[16:56] <cyphermox> yeah
[16:57] <sil2100> Older than the world
[16:57] <cyphermox> I mean. *SO* old
[16:57]  * xnox back
[16:57] <vorlon> cyphermox: ta
[16:57] <xnox> coreycb, tah
[16:57] <vorlon> cyphermox: share the exact link once it exists?
[16:57] <cyphermox> I guess take the opportunity to update the wiki page Members section if you want, too
[16:57] <vorlon> (or declare it now, before it exists :)
[16:57] <cyphermox> vorlon: yup
[16:58] <cyphermox> MeetingScript
[16:58] <cyphermox> whatever.
[16:58] <vorlon> ok
[16:58] <vorlon> #endmeeting
[16:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jan 31 16:58:18 2019 UTC.
[16:58] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-01-31-16.01.moin.txt
[16:58] <vorlon> thanks, everyone!
[16:58] <sil2100> o/