[16:00] o/ [16:00] * vorlon waves [16:01] o/ [16:01] #startmeeting [16:01] Meeting started Thu Jan 31 16:01:49 2019 UTC. The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:01] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [16:02] [TOPIC] Lightning round === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round [16:02] echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform) [16:02] well that's no good [16:02] vorlon xnox cyphermox doko waveform sil2100 rbalint tdaitx bdmurray mwhudson juliank infinity [16:02] ha [16:02] i'm ready for once to be at the start =) [16:03] but slow please [16:03] :) [16:03] hahahhahha [16:03] * long time, no see! [16:03] * two weeks ago: roadmap sprint in Cape Town [16:03] * last week: traveling back Monday; off Tue-Fri [16:03] * which means I was spending time on the readline transition and nodejs [16:03] * this week: [16:03] * Ubuntu Core 20 stratemagizing [16:03] * Secure Boot discussions w/ partner [16:03] * proposed-migration transitions [16:03] * 18.04.2 is next week, a little bit of kibbitzing to go with it [16:03] (done) [16:03] xnox: [16:03] * systemd v240 in disco-proposed [16:03] - more adt tests fixes/hunting [16:03] - filed lxd/apparmor issue (thanks for rbasak report) [16:03] - which lxd team has fixed, will be releasing [16:03] * ubuiquity sru for .2 release [16:03] - uploaded, verified, and released [16:03] * proposed migration [16:03] juliank: the key is to ask questions [16:03] - working on unblocking systemd [16:03] - also fixed up git migration blockers [16:03] * powerpc [16:03] - valgrind bugfix [16:03] * s390x [16:03] - s390-tools SRUs for xenial & cosmic in unapproved [16:03] * prepering slides for the systemd-resolved talk for fosdem [16:03] * off to FOSDEM tomorrow, through sunday [16:04] (done) [16:04] - started attending UEFI Spec Working Group weekly call [16:04] - e2fsprogs: SRU for corruption when resizing (bug LP: #1798562) [16:04] - debugging/questions in #netplan [16:04] Launchpad bug 1798562 in e2fsprogs (Ubuntu Cosmic) "After a side by side installation, resized filesystem is corrupted" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798562 [16:04] - various SRU verifications for grub (trusty, bionic, cosmic) [16:04] - Secure Boot: DKMS/shim SRUs for trusty/xenial, preparing GRUB SRU for SB enforcing on bionic [16:04] - partman-efi: improve catching of missing ESP early in installer (bionic) [16:04] - ubiquity: merge bind-mount for efivars (waiting to rebuild with partman-efi as well) [16:04] (done) [16:04] doko: [16:05] - handling -proposed ... [16:05] - isolated and forwarded three more GCC issues upstream [16:05] - GCC 7 & GCC 8 updates [16:05] - having fun with the new laptop, crashing when the screen blanks :-/ [16:05] (done) [16:05] waveform: [16:05] * Back-porting arm64 fix to gpiozero (now applied upstream) [16:05] ohh, and getting binutils ready for disco ... [16:05] * WiringPi packaging ongoing (got something that builds and works locally, but not in a PPA ...) [16:05] * Investigating regressions caused by python3-numpy (something's changed in matmul?) [16:05] * Got Pi3 builds working locally (yay!) but not booting (boo!) - missing kernel+initrd in boot partition [16:05] * U-boot has received a stay of execution on Pi [16:05] * Testing images (including armhf) on various Pis (2B, 3B, 3B+, CM3) [16:05] * RPi.GPIO packaging done - poke sil2100 for sponsorship :) [16:06] (done) [16:06] doko, eewww what laptop is it? [16:06] ok we can go faster now [16:06] waveform: I confirmed that the daily-built images boot so I guess it was something busted in the local live-build run, let's debug it later ;p [16:06] also poke sil2100 since its his turn [16:06] - SRU reviews and releases [16:06] - raspi3 'upstreaming': [16:06] * Removing unneeded files from linux-firmware-raspi2 and re-releasing [16:06] * Validating current state of arm64 raspi3 images, sending images to CE [16:06] sil2100, yup - sorry! :) [16:06] * Creating future-work cards for missing pi3 work [16:06] * Fixed build-ability of the classic gadget tree with snapcraft [16:06] * Added full-cross-compilation support to the gadget tree with snapcraft [16:06] * Discussed the road forward with pi3 support [16:06] - core18 code reviews [16:06] - Verifying pl langpacks [16:06] - Release of 18.04.2 verified langpacks [16:06] - Fixed libdbusmenu and libidn FTBFS in bionic [16:06] - Tested core18 pi3 arm64 gadget snap locally, sent for CE testing [16:06] - Prepared json blob for signing, waiting for naming consensus [16:06] - Investigated Bileto autopkgtest test-result reporting not working due to cache invalidation [16:07] (done) [16:07] rbalint is out right? [16:07] tdaitx: yes [16:07] Short week: working half-days [16:07] * openjdk-11 transition [16:07] - documenting the approach & timeline [16:07] - transition will include backports into bionic-security so rechecking for additional backports [16:07] - triaging failed rebuilds and testing fixes [16:07] * ongoing openjdk-8 update to 8u201 [16:07] - merge conflicts after m4 autoconf files were updated upstream [16:07] - massaging autopkgtest scripts to fail only on _regressions_ [16:07] Other: [16:07] - flying tomorrow afternoon to Brussels [16:07] - at FOSDEM during the weekend [16:07] - at OpenJDK workshop on Monday [16:07] - taking a train to Stuttgart Tuesday afternoon (hopefully it will have a working internet connection) [16:07] (done) [16:08] modifications to ET mojo spec to use autocert (still in progress) [16:08] German trains and working internet, hahahahha ... [16:08] wrote a blog post about PPAs and upgrading releases of Ubuntu [16:08] replaced kernel bug triage contact person in bugbot scripts [16:08] uploaded a fix for apport-symptoms gnome-session bug LP: #1813428 [16:08] Launchpad bug 1813428 in apport-symptoms (Ubuntu) ""sorry, you are not running GNOME or KDE" while running GNOME" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1813428 [16:08] review of bugs tagged rls-bb-incoming [16:08] submitted ubiquity MP re not logging "Ecryptfs is deprecated" in every bug [16:08] special SRU reviews for sil2100 [16:08] doko: worked for me [16:08] ✔ done [16:08] juliank: [16:08] oh, is it already my time? [16:09] bdmurray: thanks again for those! [16:09] * apt SRUs [16:09] * gnupg2 autopkgtest replacement [16:09] you'd said to go fast now [16:09] * networkd-dispatcher bug 1787495 [16:09] bug 1787495 in networkd-dispatcher (Ubuntu Cosmic) "no explanation for the events in the networkd-dispatcher manpage" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787495 [16:09] * apt hardening [16:09] * apt merge request reviewing and merging (thanks mvo for json hook EPIPE fix) [16:09] * hddemux 0.4-7ubuntu0.1 SRU for bug 1814062 [16:09] bug 1814062 in hddemux (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Failing autopkgtest on cosmic" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814062 [16:09] (done) [16:09] * juliank almost pastged in #ubuntu-installer [16:09] doko: ok, the on-board wifi is crap, but luckily I had lte :) [16:10] infinity doesn't seem to be in here [16:12] vorlon: what's next on the agenda? there was some discussion at the last minute about what the agenda should really be [16:13] s/minute/meeting/ [16:14] ok, what was the outcome of that discussion? [16:14] [TOPIC] Bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs [16:14] well doko wanted to add a whole bunch of stuff [16:15] bdmurray: don't you see the rls-bb-incoming bugs? [16:15] doko: ? [16:15] LINK: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [16:15] doko: can you email the foundations list with any proposed additions to the agendas so that there's a paper trail? [16:16] didn't we agree on that already two weeks ago? [16:16] agree on what? [16:16] I wasn't here 2 weeks ago so I don't know what was agreed [16:16] to walk over https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [16:16] every week [16:17] ok; the current topic is bugs. bdmurray ? [16:17] bug 1772222 [16:17] bug 1772222 in rsyslog (Ubuntu Bionic) "dangling symlink in /etc/rsyslog.d breaks rsyslogd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772222 [16:17] that bug number is ugly [16:17] I found that when I was reviewing the rls-bb-incoming bugs [16:17] xnox: 4 of a kind! [16:18] bdmurray: throw it to the backlog? [16:18] rather, I will [16:18] Is that conjure-up's fault though? [16:19] vorlon: ack, thanks [16:19] I think it's rsyslog's fault that it breaks under these conditions [16:19] bdmurray, both. [16:19] bdmurray, conjure-up should have cleaned up its mess; and rsyslog should be more resiliant [16:19] card created [16:19] bdmurray: next? [16:20] okay, moving on bug 1766102 - adam targetted it to bionic and I wonder if it really should be [16:20] bug 1766102 in debhelper (Ubuntu Bionic) "dh_installchangelogs fails if version is 0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1766102 [16:20] or rather should we tag it notfixing [16:21] bdmurray: agreed, notfixing [16:22] if infinity has another reason to think it should be SRUed, he can follow up [16:22] juliank: you seemed to have some idea about bug 1801629. Should it be fixed in ubiquity? [16:22] bug 1801629 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Disco) "xubuntu-core needs to depend on cryptsetup and lvm2 or 'apt autoremove' will make a LUKS+LVM encrypted root partition non-bootable" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1801629 [16:23] bdmurray: yes, it should [16:23] bdmurray: it's just a matter of running the command from the comment in the installed system after having done all package changes [16:23] so they dropped relevant deps from their seed? [16:23] no, we changed the behavior of autoremoval [16:23] cyphermox: the problem is that my "manually installed" minimization script runs on the "live" image [16:24] ah, right [16:24] it marks the packages as auto that are reachable from a metapackage [16:24] juliank: are you on track to fix that for 18.04.2, given the bug targeting? [16:24] (upload deadline: yesterday or so) [16:24] and cryptsetup and friend are recommended for that [16:25] vorlon: I have no idea of ubiquity code, so maybe someone else wants to take that over [16:25] vorlon: ah, but this only affects 18.10, not 18.04 [16:25] oh, well then that makes things easier [16:25] except for the OEM image which seems to do its own thing [16:27] oh, ok [16:27] moving on then? [16:28] guess so [16:28] what actions should we take on that? card it for disco, won't fix for cosmic and something else for oem? [16:28] there is a card for it in committed, it might want to go the the backlog [16:29] I pulled it into in progress for analysing [16:29] I might keep it open for cosmic in case we do a respin for apt [16:31] so it sounds to me like everything that needs doing is done [16:32] okay, then bug 1811695 - juliank do you have an opinion on what update-manager / aptdaemon should be doing here? [16:32] bug 1811695 in update-manager (Ubuntu Disco) "/usr/bin/update-manager:RuntimeError(org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.RuntimeError):_on_clicked:_deferable:_convert_dbus_exception:_convert_dbus_exception:cancel:__call__:call_blocking:wait_for_lock:acquire:acquire:_inline_callbacks:get_uid_from_dbus_name:return_value:_inline_callbacks:_cancel:_inline_callbacks" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1811695 [16:33] that's a long title [16:33] am [16:33] um [16:33] wait and retry [16:34] kind of similar to what mvo had in mind for apt: https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/merge_requests/6 [16:34] "apt: retry acquire the cache if it is already locked for 120s" [16:34] in any case, that should not be a new bug [16:35] vorlon, cyphermox has a wiki page, I think, for running this meeting - could we move to using that consistently? then if we all agree to add a topic, we can just update that [16:35] juliank: you mean not new for disco? [16:35] yeah, that sounds like a generic thing [16:35] gaughen: ok, no one has told me where this wiki page is :) [16:35] juliank: okay, I'll look for previous ones [16:35] vorlon: that's because he's making it right now [16:36] not wiki [16:36] http://people.ubuntu.com/~cyphermox/meetings/foundations.html [16:36] since gaughen called him out ;-) [16:36] close enough.. I almost said a wiki-like-thng [16:36] thing [16:36] bdmurray: could also pop up a diaalog saying "Busy, try again later" or something I guess [16:36] not editable [16:36] cyphermox: can you move it to the wiki? :) [16:36] nope. [16:36] ok [16:36] my browser can't read people.u.c [16:36] because there's javascript in there, to shuffle [16:36] I guess we'll never know what it says [16:36] heh [16:36] :) [16:37] your browser can't p.u.c? [16:37] juliank: oky, thanks [16:37] cyphermox: yes, it's difficult that way [16:37] "what a p.o.s" ;) [16:37] it protects me from viewing sites that people won't let me edit [16:37] hahaha [16:38] win [16:38] bdmurray: any more on bugs? [16:38] point is, it could sure be elsewhere than specifically there [16:38] If I can't fix it, I don't want to see it. [16:38] I'm sure we could have a ~foundations or something so everyone could modify. [16:38] vorlon: nope, not today [16:38] ok [16:39] everyone could modify but vorlon couldn't see? [16:39] I can't even ssh into those servers as me I think [16:39] [TOPIC] Team proposed-migration report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Team proposed-migration report [16:40] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [16:40] doko: is this your topic to drive? [16:41] (it should be...) [16:41] I can, ... [16:41] systemd is in a better shape now, but still not migratable yet [16:41] doko is our excuses wizard, right? [16:41] things to look at: spice [16:41] and juliank was doing gnupg stuff, no? [16:41] enigmail [16:41] heat-dashboard [16:41] xnox: yeah, I replaced the autopkgtest [16:41] I'm confused by spice, because lz4 didn't previously list it as a blocker [16:41] lintian ftbfs [16:42] buls [16:42] ah spice has a new version in -proposed that passed for the first time [16:42] vuls even [16:42] xnox: gnupg2 is fixed? [16:42] so we can badtest && rerun the test with all-proposed (doing) [16:42] vorlon: that is annoying [16:42] that leaves systemd as the lz4 blocker [16:42] doko: yes, gnupg2 is fixed [16:42] need to retrigger [16:42] hmmmm heat-dashboard & horizon is like jamespage and/or his friends? [16:43] maybe coreycb [16:43] xnox: if we rerun systemd autopkgtests for lz4 with all-proposed are they going to pass now? [16:43] vorlon, yes v239 is broken for lz4, v240 is fixed for lz4 [16:43] vorlon, but there are other systemd regressions in v240 [16:43] vorlon, it is safe to release lz4 without systemd [16:43] juliank: can you do that? [16:43] yes [16:43] xnox: ok, will override [16:43] vorlon, the systemd test suite was "lets test a bug in lz4, yeah, still there" but now 'lz4 is fixed and not buggy' [16:43] xnox: yes heat-dashboard & horizon are ours [16:44] coreycb, please fix them =) or pester people. they look hot on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [16:44] coreycb, well ubuntu-openstack portion of the report [16:44] xnox: this will of course make systemd autopkgtests fail consistently in devel, but that's more or less status quo [16:44] vorlon, yes! [16:44] xnox: will do [16:44] ok, hinted [16:45] juliank: gnupg2 triggers some failing tests itself [16:45] I could try looking at heat-dashboard I guess? [16:45] Ah, coreycb is on it [16:46] Goooood [16:46] ;) [16:46] doko: meh, there are no changes in gnupg outside debian/tests [16:47] vorlon, ah, looks there is upstream progress https://github.com/kapouer/marked-man/issues/19 [16:47] xnox: The user named '~xnox' has no PPA named 'ubuntu/nonvirt' [16:47] xnox: huzzah [16:47] xnox: failing software-properties test case [16:47] juliank, that one is dangerous! [16:47] no no that's different! [16:48] xnox: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-disco/disco/armhf/s/software-properties/20190130_180736_23562@/log.gz [16:48] xnox: but only one failure, that's odd [16:49] xnox: are you taking an action to follow up w/ coreycb and jamespage on heat-dashboard, horizon? [16:49] oh, coreycb already replied, sorry ;) [16:49] xnox: it's working on the test after [16:50] add-apt-repository ppa:xnox/nonvirt --yes --no-update [16:50] doko: you seem to have skipped over pillow in your list; perhaps you know the status but I don't [16:50] i'll work on software-properties adt [16:51] vorlon: mir pending security review [16:51] ok [16:51] $ lxc launch ubuntu-daily:disco [16:51] cannot read mount namespace identifier of pid 1: Permission denied [16:52] doko: and do you know anything about lintian's ftbfs? "file-references-package-build-path" unexpected output, seems like a toolchain behavior difference vs Debian [16:52] no, didn't look yet [16:52] ok [16:53] sounds like we've identified next steps on a reasonable chunk of these, and the queue is definitely coming don [16:53] down [16:53] so I'm happy with that [16:53] doko: anything further to discuss? [16:54] * xnox is afk [16:55] xnox: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-django-debreach/+bug/1805690 will unblock horizon. it has a security team ack now. [16:55] Launchpad bug 1805690 in python-django-debreach (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-django-debreach" [Undecided,Confirmed] [16:55] no, the other stuff is still grayed out ... [16:55] ok [16:55] vorlon, doko is that https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=920536? [16:55] [TOPIC] AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB [16:55] Debian bug 920536 in src:lintian "lintian: fails to build because of test failure" [Serious,Open] [16:55] Fix FTBFS by avoiding "self" false-positives when checking for file-references-package-build-path in the Lintian test suite. (Closes: #920536) [16:55] juliank: yes; so how about if I just remove the package from -proposed and wait for Debian to fix it (thanks) [16:56] anything else? [16:56] yep [16:56] I'll put the meeting stuff on the wiki under FoundationsTeam/ [16:56] vorlon: that way we can edit [16:56] There's a FoundationsTam wiki? [16:56] there is [16:56] it's old [16:56] older than us? [16:56] yeah [16:57] Older than the world [16:57] I mean. *SO* old [16:57] * xnox back [16:57] cyphermox: ta [16:57] coreycb, tah [16:57] cyphermox: share the exact link once it exists? [16:57] I guess take the opportunity to update the wiki page Members section if you want, too [16:57] (or declare it now, before it exists :) [16:57] vorlon: yup [16:58] MeetingScript [16:58] whatever. [16:58] ok [16:58] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice [16:58] Meeting ended Thu Jan 31 16:58:18 2019 UTC. [16:58] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-01-31-16.01.moin.txt [16:58] thanks, everyone! [16:58] o/