lubot | <tsimonq2> As of right now, the Lubuntu Constitution is put into effect, as noted here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/constitution/browse/master/Constitution.md;1.0.0 ... This involves introduction of the Lubuntu Council and the Lubuntu Member system, which is officially ratified as of now. ... I would encourage all members of the community, w | 01:14 |
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lubot | hether you contribute a little or a lot, to read this over carefully. It's now how the Lubuntu community will be governed going forward. | 01:14 |
lubot | * acheronuk looks at the lubuntu membership bit | 01:22 |
lubot | <acheronuk> wow. more 'managers' than members.... | 01:28 |
lubot | <acheronuk> well, not really, but you are trying to get there! | 01:28 |
lubot | <Neyder> Reading | 02:09 |
lubot | <SamuelBanya> If anyone figures out how to add icons and image through QAction with Qt let me know. Having issues doing it with the .qrc resource file | 02:11 |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T181: Test LXQt 0.14.0 for bugs.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T181 | 02:46 | |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T165: use ascending sort order in pcmanfm-qt] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T165#3595 | 04:03 | |
lynorian | I got super busy today but have continued my manual work so I missed the meeting | 06:04 |
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lubot | <SamuelBanya> @tsimonq2 please review the latest Welcome Center D53 commit and share the link here so I can provide it to Artem to look at and build the welcome center with my latest changes | 16:41 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> Ok | 16:41 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> have anyone of yoy see this kind of updates in 18.10 ? | 16:44 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/H4BQDjb.jpg | 16:44 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> (unattended upgrade during shutdown, don't turn off) | 16:45 |
lubot | <teward001> @HMollerCl yes, I have, if you configure unattended-upgrades to not install until shutdown stages | 16:46 |
lubot | <teward001> but it's rare I've seen that, and never usually on the desktop ISOs for any of the releases | 16:47 |
papagayo | Hi you all. Do you think a way to reach online accounts in default lubuntu GUI will be integrated in future updates? | 17:51 |
apt-ghetto | What do you mean? Online accounts are online and normally reachable through a browser. | 17:52 |
papagayo | sorry but I can't find a way to reach it... | 17:53 |
papagayo | system tool does'nt give access to "online accounts" option | 17:54 |
teward | you mean that part of the Ubuntu desktop under settings called "Online Accounts" that lets you auth to various cloud service providers? | 17:59 |
lubot | <teward001> that one? | 18:00 |
lubot | <teward001> (Photo, 980x712) https://i.imgur.com/so5Rg4j.jpg | 18:00 |
papagayo | yes that's it... but in Lubuntu | 18:01 |
papagayo | you can fint it easyly using ubuntu but not in lubuntu | 18:02 |
papagayo | this option seems to be missing | 18:04 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> Yeah, it's on the roadmap. | 18:11 |
lubot | <teward001> but not yet in the environment | 18:11 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> I already know upstream is going to refuse such a feature either way. | 18:11 |
lubot | <teward001> : | 18:11 |
lubot | <aptghetto> Which roadmap? | 18:12 |
lubot | <teward001> development roadmap probably? | 18:12 |
lubot | <aptghetto> Of Lxqt or Lubuntu? | 18:12 |
lubot | <teward001> if i'mi reading Simon's PMs right | 18:13 |
lubot | <teward001> Lubuntu | 18:13 |
lubot | <teward001> not upstream | 18:13 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> Right | 18:13 |
papagayo | many thanks for your replies | 18:44 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> I've never used ubuntu, so I didn't knew that existed. It has connection to onedrive (Microsoft)? | 18:56 |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdc88017bf177: Add qterminal custom background image] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdc88017bf177 | 19:09 | |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa17a9ef5d0f8: Add split terminal instructions] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa17a9ef5d0f8 | 19:25 | |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL270c20c9400a: Add qterminal switch vertical subterminals] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL270c20c9400a | 19:41 | |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL10aafe4db43c: Add switching left and right subterminal] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL10aafe4db43c | 19:48 | |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Hii. Everyone. I am Raman and I am a linux enthusiast. I want to contribute to lubuntu development. How can I start? ... Untill now I have been mostly distro-hopping, but lubuntu was one os on which I was stable for a long, long time. I even have also started a blog regarding the same and made a post about lubuntu. Here is the | 19:51 |
lubot | link : http://theloudspeaker.home.blog/2018/09/23/lubuntu-the-os-that-everyone-deserves-but-doesnt-need/ ... Please let me know how can I help. | 19:51 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> Thanks for the blog post! Maybe you would be interested in helping with the Lubuntu Manual :) | 19:54 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> Is your native language English out of curiosity? | 19:54 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> How can I start? My native language is hindi but I am fine with English. | 19:54 |
lubot | <aptghetto> Testing is also something that you can do | 19:55 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> True | 19:55 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @aptghetto [Testing is also something that you can do], I can test it on my pc. But in dual boot. I don't have an extra pc. | 19:56 |
lubot | <teward001> could use VMs, which is what I do for testing some things | 19:56 |
lubot | <teward001> just as an extra option ;) | 19:56 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [How can I start? My native language is hindi but I am fine with English.], lynorian is around but on IRC, this channel is bridged there | 19:56 |
teward | and some of us are in both places. | 19:57 |
teward | *pokes lynorian because Simon said to* | 19:57 |
teward | :P | 19:57 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [lynorian is around but on IRC, this channel is bridged there], Should I connect on IRC then? | 19:58 |
teward | no | 19:58 |
teward | you can just stay on the Telegram | 19:59 |
teward | the messages you're typing are relayed here to IRC automatically | 19:59 |
teward | so lynorian will see the messages eventuall | 19:59 |
teward | as will I | 19:59 |
lubot | <teward001> except I can see them in both places 😛 | 19:59 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @teward [<teward> the messages you're typing are relayed here to IRC automatically], Yup! I understood that from the messages, been in this chat for a couple of days now. | 20:00 |
lubot | <aptghetto> @tsimonq2 do you have some packaging work for me that should be done in the next two weeks? | 20:01 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> @teward001 [except I can see them in both places 😛], and you get 2xnotifications \o/ | 20:01 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [Yup! I understood that from the messages, been in this chat for a couple of days …], what's your background? studies? knowledge? | 20:02 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [what's your background? studies? knowledge?], Confident with C. Currently studying M.Sc. physics tho. | 20:02 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Willing to learn. | 20:02 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> awesome! | 20:03 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> interests? anything you would like lubuntu to have that currenty has not? | 20:03 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Was trying to read and follow osdevs wiki. Working on setting up cross compiler. | 20:04 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [interests? anything you would like lubuntu to have that currenty has not?], Would love to have something similar to kde connect from kubuntu for lubuntu but better, with abilities to manage phone calls on phone from lubuntu | 20:06 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> so you are code enthusiast. Things are mainly written in C++ nad python | 20:07 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> and for ui Qt | 20:08 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Okay. Listening. | 20:08 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Have just a basic experience with python. | 20:08 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> if you want to start coding you could port things you like from gtk to qt. | 20:09 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Example? | 20:09 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> an easy one i look a bit is redshift | 20:10 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> you know it? | 20:10 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> it's in python though | 20:11 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> the gui (redshift-gtk) is in python | 20:12 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> @aptghetto [@tsimonq2 do you have some packaging work for me that should be done in the next …], I can find something :) | 20:12 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> https://github.com/jonls/redshift/tree/master/src | 20:12 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [Would love to have something similar to kde connect from kubuntu for lubuntu but …], I had visited lubuntu phabricator a few months back, saw that online account intergration point(like in ubuntu) that functionality in lubuntu would be very much appreciated as low end systems can then connect with google | 20:13 |
lubot | drive and dropbox seamlessly. It only makes lubuntu better as lubuntu focuses on low end and older systems. Correct me if I am wrong. | 20:13 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [you know it?], No. Googling now. | 20:14 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> dropbox works fine for me in lubuntu. haven't tried Gdrive | 20:14 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> anyway, @tsimonq2 and wxl could give you other things with more priority to look at. | 20:15 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [dropbox works fine for me in lubuntu. haven't tried Gdrive], Gdrive is more popular i guess. Due to all the sharing capabilities. | 20:15 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> bugs are a big issue to. I'm currently looking bugs with libreoffice. | 20:15 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [anyway, @tsimonq2 and wxl could give you other things with more priority to look …], Yup! Will be waiting. | 20:16 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [bugs are a big issue to. I'm currently looking bugs with libreoffice.], Is there something I can help with? | 20:16 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> testing | 20:16 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> ^ | 20:16 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [testing], So should I install latest lubuntu beta? | 20:16 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker in which version of lubuntu are you? | 20:17 |
lubot | <aptghetto> Set up a virtual machine | 20:17 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker in which version of lubuntu are you?], I have lubuntu 18.04 in vm. But my present linux distro is elementary os. Sorry. | 20:17 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> ok, so you are still in lxde. | 20:18 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> have you heard of 18.10 and lxqt? | 20:18 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup! | 20:18 |
lynorian | you can have more than one vm installed at once but to run multiple at the same time takes a ton of ram | 20:18 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @lynorian [<lynorian> you can have more than one vm installed at once but to run multiple a …], I have 6 gigs only. I will set up 18.10 | 20:19 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> setup a 19.04 | 20:19 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> beta | 20:19 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Beta. Yes. | 20:20 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> sorry, alpha | 20:21 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/disco-desktop-amd64.iso | 20:21 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> cutting edge | 20:21 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Downloading right away! | 20:21 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> Thanks @The_LoudSpeaker! | 20:21 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> One more thing, I use oracle virtualbox. Any other good alternatives? | 20:27 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> On Windows, no. On Linux, virt-manager beats VirtualBox every time. | 20:27 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [One more thing, I use oracle virtualbox. Any other good alternatives?], I use VBox it windows host | 20:28 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> YMMV of course. :) | 20:29 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [I use VBox in windows host], Same here. But I will be setting up lubuntu 19.04 in my linux system so, asked. I have seen virtualbox performing bad in linux. | 20:29 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [YMMV of course. :)], What's YMMV? | 20:29 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [What's YMMV?], Your Mileage May Vary. It's a common saying :) | 20:30 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Lite. Just got it. | 20:30 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [Your Mileage May Vary. It's a common saying :)], 👍🏻 | 20:31 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 so, regarding update-notifier | 20:31 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> the only thing I haven't been able to handle is when during the process there are "questions" needed to be answered to continue | 20:32 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> It happen to me sometimes with vbirtualbox | 20:33 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> Ahh, perhaps you need a debconf frontend | 20:33 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> the thingsis that I haven't been able to understand if/how aptdaemon handle it. | 20:33 |
teward | yeah that'd be debconf. however you should try and not use it if you can avoid it, is what i've read in Debian | 20:34 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> @teward [<teward> yeah that'd be debconf. however you should try and not use it if you c …], That is wrong | 20:34 |
lubot | <teward001> *shrugs* | 20:34 |
lubot | <teward001> just saying what i've heard, but it should be debconf iirc. | 20:35 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> will look at it | 20:35 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> apparently aptdaemon has something with debconf | 20:35 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> @teward001 [just saying what i've heard, but it should be debconf iirc.], Ask vorlon and infinity :P | 20:35 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> it haven't be form me easy to test error handling. Actually the problem with compton helped me in that. | 20:37 |
lubot | <teward001> @tsimonq2 [Ask vorlon and infinity :P], no thanks i'm good :P | 20:37 |
lubot | <teward001> i don't work with packages that need odd questions like that anyways | 20:37 |
lubot | <teward001> and the parts I do need that in are all apport hooks so :P | 20:38 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> any ideas on how could I force questions for testing purpose? | 20:57 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [On Windows, no. On Linux, virt-manager beats VirtualBox every time.], I run 'sudo apt install virt-manager' is that enough? | 21:12 |
wxl | @tsimonq2: can you get to landing this today? https://phab.lubuntu.me/D54 | 21:49 |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Accepted] Fix metadata for trusting executables: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D54 | 21:49 | |
tsimonq2 | wxl: Yep. | 21:50 |
wxl | thx | 21:50 |
tsimonq2 | np | 21:50 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl I got 19.10 running in vm. Ready for testing. You mentioned libre office bugs. Where do I look for them? | 22:21 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> For now use it as you always use a system. Familiarize with it, it's different than lxde | 22:22 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Aye. | 22:22 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> Read the manual that in the webpage | 22:23 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> You should find answers for most of your initial questions. Also you could find errors a d missing in the manual | 22:24 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Okay. | 22:24 |
kc2bez | wxl @tsimonq2 is there something I need to do for the no change rebuild to pcmanfm or does somebody else have that? | 22:35 |
wxl | we'd take care of that | 22:35 |
kc2bez | Gotcha, thanks. | 22:36 |
wxl | once libfm-qt is in the release pocket, we'd just set it up | 22:36 |
tsimonq2 | s/release/proposed/g | 22:36 |
kc2bez | Understood, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something. | 22:36 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl The os seems preety unstable. Idk but it just got stuck while I was browsing. This happened twice. It would not take any input from keyboard. And would hang up. But only mouse can be moved. No effect of keys either. I had to force shut down it both times. | 22:38 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> How much resources have you been giving it? | 22:39 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> 2 gigs | 22:39 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> 2 cpus | 22:39 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> how many tabs in browser? | 22:39 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> One only. | 22:39 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Earlier it stopped when I was changing preferences for libre office. | 22:40 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> that's rare I haven't seen tha behaivour. | 22:40 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I will try again after dome time. | 22:41 |
wxl | how much total ram do you have? | 22:41 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I have a total of 6 gigs. | 22:41 |
wxl | hm this is rather strange | 22:42 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> My host elementary os on acer aspire es1-132. If that helps. | 22:42 |
wxl | although 6 gigs isn't a lot to do much if you're doing anything in the host | 22:42 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> hm this is rather strange], Yes. It is. | 22:42 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> although 6 gigs isn't a lot to do much if you're doing anything in the hos …], Nope nothing in host other than a text file in subl. | 22:43 |
wxl | i certainly have used less resources on a more limited machine and not had problems | 22:43 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> from where did you donloaded the iso¡? The link I gave you? | 22:44 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Yes. | 22:44 |
wxl | did you install it or are you in the live session? | 22:44 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> From your link | 22:44 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I installed it in virt-manager | 22:44 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I tried sending ctrl+alt+f1, f2, through virt-manager but no response. | 22:46 |
wxl | send a screenshot of the desktop please? | 22:47 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Oops! Just shut my syatem down. Wait a min. I will restart | 22:48 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 debconf needs sudo privileges? | 22:48 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 debconf needs sudo privileges?], Yeah, it probably does, but if you're upgrading your system you have administrator priviledges anyway | 22:48 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> with aptdaemon you don't need | 22:49 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> I am not familiar with the intricate differences between the two, sorry. | 22:49 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> I will repeat as a parrot :"Aptdaemon allows normal users to perform package management tasks, e.g. refreshing the cache, upgrading the system, installing or removing software packages." | 22:53 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> send a screenshot of the desktop please?], What screenshot do you require? Only desktop or some particular app? | 22:53 |
wxl | desktop will suffice but if you want to send the task manager running, that'd be great | 22:53 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Can't find task manager in lubuntu | 22:56 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Wait got it | 22:56 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> desktop will suffice but if you want to send the task manager running, tha …], ^There you go. | 23:03 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> (Photo, 1024x768) https://i.imgur.com/mUbSFbs.jpg | 23:03 |
wxl | aw was hoping to see the desktop too | 23:04 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> (Photo, 1024x768) https://i.imgur.com/VGWLMQb.jpg | 23:06 |
wxl | oh my god that background i'm blind | 23:07 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Any good tool to copy files from guest to host in virt-manager? I had to mail these screenshots before I could get them on my phone. XD | 23:07 |
wxl | maybe since you're not using the host give it 4gb | 23:07 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> oh my god that background i'm blind], XD | 23:07 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [Any good tool to copy files from guest to host in virt-manager? I had to mail th …], install telegram in lubuntu | 23:08 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> sudo apt install telegram-desktop | 23:08 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup! Will do that but still I need a tool to copy some files. | 23:08 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> could you run ... apt list pcmanfm-qt | 23:09 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> and tell what happens? | 23:10 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Wait a min. Currently running apt upgrade | 23:10 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> it would be nice to see before the upgrade | 23:10 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> I believe yould runin parañeñ | 23:11 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> *you can | 23:11 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Oops! Upgrade completed before I saw your msg. | 23:11 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> don't wory | 23:12 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> in file manager got to about and tell me the version | 23:12 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/RcsuQQi.jpg These were upgraded. | 23:12 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [in file manager got to about and tell me the version], 0.14.0 | 23:12 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> ok, you are in the latest. | 23:13 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> try ging more ram as wxl stated. | 23:13 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I will give 3 from next session. | 23:14 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> I currently have 4G for it. I have an old computer with 2 Gb and it works perfect to. | 23:14 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> core 2 duo 1,83ghz 667mhz bus | 23:14 |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Currently it's not showing any problems. Let's see. Might be rectified after upgrade. | 23:15 |
lubot | <HMollerCl> could be | 23:15 |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : | 23:16 | |
lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @lugito [<lugito> 3[ 13Membership 3] 15tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 2], What's this? | 23:17 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> Ignore it :) | 23:17 |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : | 23:20 | |
teward | the Simon broke it :P | 23:26 |
tsimonq2 | hah | 23:28 |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : | 23:43 | |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : | 23:45 | |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : | 23:47 | |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : | 23:50 | |
tsimonq2 | Alright y'all, we now have a process for gaining Lubuntu Membership: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/membership/ | 23:52 |
tsimonq2 | If you've been contributing to Lubuntu for the last few months we encourage you to apply. | 23:52 |
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : | 23:56 |
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