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lubot<tsimonq2> As of right now, the Lubuntu Constitution is put into effect, as noted here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/constitution/browse/master/Constitution.md;1.0.0 ... This involves introduction of the Lubuntu Council and the Lubuntu Member system, which is officially ratified as of now. ... I would encourage all members of the community, w01:14
lubothether you contribute a little or a lot, to read this over carefully. It's now how the Lubuntu community will be governed going forward.01:14
lubot* acheronuk looks at the lubuntu membership bit01:22
lubot<acheronuk> wow. more 'managers' than members....01:28
lubot<acheronuk> well, not really, but you are trying to get there!01:28
lubot<Neyder> Reading02:09
lubot<SamuelBanya> If anyone figures out how to add icons and image through QAction with Qt let me know. Having issues doing it with the .qrc resource file02:11
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T181: Test LXQt 0.14.0 for bugs.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T18102:46
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T165: use ascending sort order in pcmanfm-qt] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T165#359504:03
lynorianI got super busy today but have continued my manual work so I missed the meeting06:04
=== lynn_ is now known as gryphon
lubot<SamuelBanya> @tsimonq2 please review the latest Welcome Center D53 commit and share the link here so I can provide it to Artem to look at and build the welcome center with my latest changes16:41
lubot<tsimonq2> Ok16:41
lubot<HMollerCl> have anyone of yoy see this kind of updates in 18.10 ?16:44
lubot<HMollerCl> (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/H4BQDjb.jpg16:44
lubot<HMollerCl> (unattended upgrade during shutdown, don't turn off)16:45
lubot<teward001> @HMollerCl yes, I have, if you configure unattended-upgrades to not install until shutdown stages16:46
lubot<teward001> but it's rare I've seen that, and never usually on the desktop ISOs for any of the releases16:47
papagayoHi you all. Do you think a way to reach online accounts in default lubuntu GUI will be integrated in future updates?17:51
apt-ghettoWhat do you mean? Online accounts are online and normally reachable through a browser.17:52
papagayosorry but I can't find a way to reach it...17:53
papagayosystem tool does'nt give access to "online accounts" option17:54
tewardyou mean that part of the Ubuntu desktop under settings called "Online Accounts" that lets you auth to various cloud service providers?17:59
lubot<teward001> that one?18:00
lubot<teward001> (Photo, 980x712) https://i.imgur.com/so5Rg4j.jpg18:00
papagayoyes that's it... but in Lubuntu18:01
papagayoyou can fint it easyly using ubuntu but not in lubuntu18:02
papagayothis option seems to be missing18:04
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah, it's on the roadmap.18:11
lubot<teward001> but not yet in the environment18:11
lubot<tsimonq2> I already know upstream is going to refuse such a feature either way.18:11
lubot<teward001> :18:11
lubot<aptghetto> Which roadmap?18:12
lubot<teward001> development roadmap probably?18:12
lubot<aptghetto> Of Lxqt or Lubuntu?18:12
lubot<teward001> if i'mi reading Simon's PMs right18:13
lubot<teward001> Lubuntu18:13
lubot<teward001> not upstream18:13
lubot<tsimonq2> Right18:13
papagayomany thanks for your replies18:44
lubot<HMollerCl> I've never used ubuntu, so I didn't knew that existed. It has connection to onedrive (Microsoft)?18:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdc88017bf177: Add qterminal custom background image] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdc88017bf17719:09
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa17a9ef5d0f8: Add split terminal instructions] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa17a9ef5d0f819:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL270c20c9400a: Add qterminal switch vertical subterminals] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL270c20c9400a19:41
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL10aafe4db43c: Add switching left and right subterminal] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL10aafe4db43c19:48
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Hii. Everyone. I am Raman and I am a linux enthusiast. I want to contribute to lubuntu development. How can I start? ... Untill now I have been mostly distro-hopping, but lubuntu was one os on which I was stable for a long, long time. I even have also started a blog regarding the same and made a post about lubuntu. Here is the19:51
lubot link : http://theloudspeaker.home.blog/2018/09/23/lubuntu-the-os-that-everyone-deserves-but-doesnt-need/ ... Please let me know how can I help.19:51
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks for the blog post! Maybe you would be interested in helping with the Lubuntu Manual :)19:54
lubot<tsimonq2> Is your native language English out of curiosity?19:54
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> How can I start? My native language is hindi but I am fine with English.19:54
lubot<aptghetto> Testing is also something that you can do19:55
lubot<tsimonq2> True19:55
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @aptghetto [Testing is also something that you can do], I can test it on my pc. But in dual boot. I don't have an extra pc.19:56
lubot<teward001> could use VMs, which is what I do for testing some things19:56
lubot<teward001> just as an extra option ;)19:56
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [How can I start? My native language is hindi but I am fine with English.], lynorian is around but on IRC, this channel is bridged there19:56
tewardand some of us are in both places.19:57
teward*pokes lynorian because Simon said to*19:57
teward:P19:57
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [lynorian is around but on IRC, this channel is bridged there], Should I connect on IRC then?19:58
tewardno19:58
tewardyou can just stay on the Telegram19:59
tewardthe messages you're typing are relayed here to IRC automatically19:59
tewardso lynorian will see the messages eventuall19:59
tewardas will I19:59
lubot<teward001> except I can see them in both places 😛19:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @teward [<teward> the messages you're typing are relayed here to IRC automatically], Yup! I understood that from the messages, been in this chat for a couple of days now.20:00
lubot<aptghetto> @tsimonq2 do you have some packaging work for me that should be done in the next two weeks?20:01
lubot<HMollerCl> @teward001 [except I can see them in both places 😛], and you get 2xnotifications \o/20:01
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [Yup! I understood that from the messages, been in this chat for a couple of days …], what's your background? studies? knowledge?20:02
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [what's your background? studies? knowledge?], Confident with C. Currently studying M.Sc. physics tho.20:02
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Willing to learn.20:02
lubot<HMollerCl> awesome!20:03
lubot<HMollerCl> interests? anything you would like lubuntu to have that currenty has not?20:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Was trying to read and follow osdevs wiki. Working on setting up cross compiler.20:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [interests? anything you would like lubuntu to have that currenty has not?], Would love to have something similar to kde connect from kubuntu for lubuntu but better, with abilities to manage phone calls on phone from lubuntu20:06
lubot<HMollerCl> so you are code enthusiast. Things are mainly written in C++ nad python20:07
lubot<HMollerCl> and for ui Qt20:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Okay. Listening.20:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Have just a basic experience with python.20:08
lubot<HMollerCl> if you want to start coding you could port things you like from gtk to qt.20:09
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Example?20:09
lubot<HMollerCl> an easy one i look a bit is redshift20:10
lubot<HMollerCl> you know it?20:10
lubot<HMollerCl> it's in python though20:11
lubot<HMollerCl> the gui (redshift-gtk) is in python20:12
lubot<tsimonq2> @aptghetto [@tsimonq2 do you have some packaging work for me that should be done in the next …], I can find something :)20:12
lubot<HMollerCl> https://github.com/jonls/redshift/tree/master/src20:12
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [Would love to have something similar to kde connect from kubuntu for lubuntu but …], I had visited lubuntu phabricator a few months back, saw that online account intergration point(like in ubuntu) that functionality in lubuntu would be very much appreciated as low end systems can then connect with google 20:13
lubotdrive and dropbox seamlessly. It only makes lubuntu better as lubuntu focuses on low end and older systems. Correct me if I am wrong.20:13
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [you know it?], No. Googling now.20:14
lubot<HMollerCl> dropbox works fine for me in lubuntu. haven't tried Gdrive20:14
lubot<HMollerCl> anyway, @tsimonq2 and wxl could give you other things with more priority to look at.20:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [dropbox works fine for me in lubuntu. haven't tried Gdrive], Gdrive is more popular i guess. Due to all the sharing capabilities.20:15
lubot<HMollerCl> bugs are a big issue to. I'm currently looking bugs with libreoffice.20:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [anyway, @tsimonq2 and wxl could give you other things with more priority to look …], Yup! Will be waiting.20:16
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [bugs are a big issue to. I'm currently looking bugs with libreoffice.], Is there something I can help with?20:16
lubot<HMollerCl> testing20:16
lubot<tsimonq2> ^20:16
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [testing], So should I install latest lubuntu beta?20:16
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker in which version of lubuntu are you?20:17
lubot<aptghetto> Set up a virtual machine20:17
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker in which version of lubuntu are you?], I have lubuntu 18.04 in vm. But my present linux distro is elementary os. Sorry.20:17
lubot<HMollerCl> ok, so you are still in lxde.20:18
lubot<HMollerCl> have you heard of 18.10 and lxqt?20:18
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Yup!20:18
lynorianyou can have more than one vm installed at once but to run multiple at the same time takes a ton of ram20:18
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @lynorian [<lynorian> you can have more than one vm installed at once but to run multiple a …], I have 6 gigs only. I will set up 18.1020:19
lubot<HMollerCl> setup a 19.0420:19
lubot<HMollerCl> beta20:19
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Beta. Yes.20:20
lubot<HMollerCl> sorry, alpha20:21
lubot<HMollerCl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/disco-desktop-amd64.iso20:21
lubot<HMollerCl> cutting edge20:21
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Downloading right away!20:21
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks @The_LoudSpeaker!20:21
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> One more thing, I use oracle virtualbox. Any other good alternatives?20:27
lubot<tsimonq2> On Windows, no. On Linux, virt-manager beats VirtualBox every time.20:27
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [One more thing, I use oracle virtualbox. Any other good alternatives?], I use VBox it windows host20:28
lubot<tsimonq2> YMMV of course. :)20:29
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [I use VBox in windows host], Same here. But I will be setting up lubuntu 19.04 in my linux system so, asked. I have seen virtualbox performing bad in linux.20:29
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [YMMV of course. :)], What's YMMV?20:29
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [What's YMMV?], Your Mileage May Vary. It's a common saying :)20:30
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Lite. Just got it.20:30
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [Your Mileage May Vary. It's a common saying :)], 👍🏻20:31
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 so, regarding update-notifier20:31
lubot<HMollerCl> the only thing I haven't been able to handle is when during the process there are "questions" needed to be answered to continue20:32
lubot<HMollerCl> It happen to me sometimes with vbirtualbox20:33
lubot<tsimonq2> Ahh, perhaps you need a debconf frontend20:33
lubot<HMollerCl> the thingsis that I haven't been able to understand if/how aptdaemon handle it.20:33
tewardyeah that'd be debconf.  however you should try and not use it if you can avoid it, is what i've read in Debian20:34
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward [<teward> yeah that'd be debconf.  however you should try and not use it if you c …], That is wrong20:34
lubot<teward001> *shrugs*20:34
lubot<teward001> just saying what i've heard, but it should be debconf iirc.20:35
lubot<HMollerCl> will look at it20:35
lubot<HMollerCl> apparently aptdaemon has something with debconf20:35
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [just saying what i've heard, but it should be debconf iirc.], Ask vorlon and infinity :P20:35
lubot<HMollerCl> it haven't be form me easy to test error handling. Actually the problem with compton helped me in that.20:37
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq2 [Ask vorlon and infinity :P], no thanks i'm good :P20:37
lubot<teward001> i don't work with packages that need odd questions like that anyways20:37
lubot<teward001> and the parts I do need that in are all apport hooks so :P20:38
lubot<HMollerCl> any ideas on how could I force questions for testing purpose?20:57
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [On Windows, no. On Linux, virt-manager beats VirtualBox every time.], I run 'sudo apt install virt-manager' is that enough?21:12
wxl@tsimonq2: can you get to landing this today? https://phab.lubuntu.me/D5421:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Accepted] Fix metadata for trusting executables: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D5421:49
tsimonq2wxl: Yep.21:50
wxlthx21:50
tsimonq2np21:50
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl I got 19.10 running in vm. Ready for testing. You mentioned libre office bugs. Where do I look for them?22:21
lubot<HMollerCl> For now use it as you always use a system.  Familiarize with it, it's different than lxde22:22
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Aye.22:22
lubot<HMollerCl> Read the manual that in the webpage22:23
lubot<HMollerCl> You should find answers for most of your initial questions. Also you could find errors a d missing in the manual22:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Okay.22:24
kc2bezwxl @tsimonq2 is there something I need to do for the no change rebuild to pcmanfm or does somebody else have that?22:35
wxlwe'd take care of that22:35
kc2bezGotcha, thanks.22:36
wxlonce libfm-qt is in the release pocket, we'd just set it up22:36
tsimonq2s/release/proposed/g22:36
kc2bezUnderstood, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something.22:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl The os seems preety unstable. Idk but it just got stuck while I was browsing. This happened twice. It would not take any input from keyboard. And would hang up. But only mouse can be moved. No effect of keys either. I had to force shut down it both times.22:38
lubot<tsimonq2> How much resources have you been giving it?22:39
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> 2 gigs22:39
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> 2 cpus22:39
lubot<HMollerCl> how many tabs in browser?22:39
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> One only.22:39
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Earlier it stopped when I was changing preferences for libre office.22:40
lubot<HMollerCl> that's rare I haven't seen tha behaivour.22:40
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I will try again after dome time.22:41
wxlhow much total ram do you have?22:41
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I have a total of 6 gigs.22:41
wxlhm this is rather strange22:42
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> My host elementary os on acer aspire es1-132. If that helps.22:42
wxlalthough 6 gigs isn't a lot to do much if you're doing anything in the host22:42
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> hm this is rather strange], Yes. It is.22:42
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> although 6 gigs isn't a lot to do much if you're doing anything in the hos …], Nope nothing in host other than a text file in subl.22:43
wxli certainly have used less resources on a more limited machine and not had problems22:43
lubot<HMollerCl> from where did you donloaded the iso¡? The link I gave you?22:44
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Yes.22:44
wxldid you install it or are you in the live session?22:44
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> From your link22:44
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I installed it in virt-manager22:44
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I tried sending ctrl+alt+f1, f2, through virt-manager but no response.22:46
wxlsend a screenshot of the desktop please?22:47
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Oops! Just shut my syatem down. Wait a min. I will restart22:48
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 debconf needs sudo privileges?22:48
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 debconf needs sudo privileges?], Yeah, it probably does, but if you're upgrading your system you have administrator priviledges anyway22:48
lubot<HMollerCl> with aptdaemon you don't need22:49
lubot<tsimonq2> I am not familiar with the intricate differences between the two, sorry.22:49
lubot<HMollerCl> I will repeat as a parrot :"Aptdaemon allows normal users to perform package management tasks, e.g. refreshing the cache, upgrading the system, installing or removing software packages."22:53
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> send a screenshot of the desktop please?], What screenshot do you require? Only desktop or some particular app?22:53
wxldesktop will suffice but if you want to send the task manager running, that'd be great22:53
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Can't find task manager in lubuntu22:56
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Wait got it22:56
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> desktop will suffice but if you want to send the task manager running, tha …], ^There you go.23:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> (Photo, 1024x768) https://i.imgur.com/mUbSFbs.jpg23:03
wxlaw was hoping to see the desktop too23:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> (Photo, 1024x768) https://i.imgur.com/VGWLMQb.jpg23:06
wxloh my god that background i'm blind23:07
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Any good tool to copy files from guest to host in virt-manager? I had to mail these screenshots before I could get them on my phone. XD23:07
wxlmaybe since you're not using the host give it 4gb23:07
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> oh my god that background i'm blind], XD23:07
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [Any good tool to copy files from guest to host in virt-manager? I had to mail th …], install telegram in lubuntu23:08
lubot<HMollerCl> sudo apt install telegram-desktop23:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Yup! Will do that but still I need a tool to copy some files.23:08
lubot<HMollerCl> could you run ... apt list pcmanfm-qt23:09
lubot<HMollerCl> and tell what happens?23:10
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Wait a min. Currently running apt upgrade23:10
lubot<HMollerCl> it would be nice to see before the upgrade23:10
lubot<HMollerCl> I believe yould runin parañeñ23:11
lubot<HMollerCl> *you can23:11
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Oops! Upgrade completed before I saw your msg.23:11
lubot<HMollerCl> don't wory23:12
lubot<HMollerCl> in file manager got to about and tell me the version23:12
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/RcsuQQi.jpg These were upgraded.23:12
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [in file manager got to about and tell me the version], 0.14.023:12
lubot<HMollerCl> ok, you are in the latest.23:13
lubot<HMollerCl> try ging more ram as wxl stated.23:13
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I will give 3 from next session.23:14
lubot<HMollerCl> I currently have 4G for it. I have an old computer with 2 Gb and it works perfect to.23:14
lubot<HMollerCl> core 2 duo 1,83ghz 667mhz bus23:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Currently it's not showing any problems. Let's see. Might be rectified after upgrade.23:15
lubot<HMollerCl> could be23:15
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 23:16
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13Membership  3]   15tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley)  :  2], What's this?23:17
lubot<tsimonq2> Ignore it :)23:17
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 23:20
tewardthe Simon broke it :P23:26
tsimonq2hah23:28
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 23:43
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tsimonq2Alright y'all, we now have a process for gaining Lubuntu Membership: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/membership/23:52
tsimonq2If you've been contributing to Lubuntu for the last few months we encourage you to apply.23:52
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