[01:14] As of right now, the Lubuntu Constitution is put into effect, as noted here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/constitution/browse/master/Constitution.md;1.0.0 ... This involves introduction of the Lubuntu Council and the Lubuntu Member system, which is officially ratified as of now. ... I would encourage all members of the community, w [01:14] hether you contribute a little or a lot, to read this over carefully. It's now how the Lubuntu community will be governed going forward. [01:22] * acheronuk looks at the lubuntu membership bit [01:28] wow. more 'managers' than members.... [01:28] well, not really, but you are trying to get there! [02:09] Reading [02:11] If anyone figures out how to add icons and image through QAction with Qt let me know. Having issues doing it with the .qrc resource file [02:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T181: Test LXQt 0.14.0 for bugs.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T181 [04:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T165: use ascending sort order in pcmanfm-qt] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T165#3595 [06:04] I got super busy today but have continued my manual work so I missed the meeting === lynn_ is now known as gryphon [16:41] @tsimonq2 please review the latest Welcome Center D53 commit and share the link here so I can provide it to Artem to look at and build the welcome center with my latest changes [16:41] Ok [16:44] have anyone of yoy see this kind of updates in 18.10 ? [16:44] (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/H4BQDjb.jpg [16:45] (unattended upgrade during shutdown, don't turn off) [16:46] @HMollerCl yes, I have, if you configure unattended-upgrades to not install until shutdown stages [16:47] but it's rare I've seen that, and never usually on the desktop ISOs for any of the releases [17:51] Hi you all. Do you think a way to reach online accounts in default lubuntu GUI will be integrated in future updates? [17:52] What do you mean? Online accounts are online and normally reachable through a browser. [17:53] sorry but I can't find a way to reach it... [17:54] system tool does'nt give access to "online accounts" option [17:59] you mean that part of the Ubuntu desktop under settings called "Online Accounts" that lets you auth to various cloud service providers? [18:00] that one? [18:00] (Photo, 980x712) https://i.imgur.com/so5Rg4j.jpg [18:01] yes that's it... but in Lubuntu [18:02] you can fint it easyly using ubuntu but not in lubuntu [18:04] this option seems to be missing [18:11] Yeah, it's on the roadmap. [18:11] but not yet in the environment [18:11] I already know upstream is going to refuse such a feature either way. [18:11] : [18:12] Which roadmap? [18:12] development roadmap probably? [18:12] Of Lxqt or Lubuntu? [18:13] if i'mi reading Simon's PMs right [18:13] Lubuntu [18:13] not upstream [18:13] Right [18:44] many thanks for your replies [18:56] I've never used ubuntu, so I didn't knew that existed. It has connection to onedrive (Microsoft)? [19:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdc88017bf177: Add qterminal custom background image] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdc88017bf177 [19:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa17a9ef5d0f8: Add split terminal instructions] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa17a9ef5d0f8 [19:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL270c20c9400a: Add qterminal switch vertical subterminals] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL270c20c9400a [19:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL10aafe4db43c: Add switching left and right subterminal] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL10aafe4db43c [19:51] Hii. Everyone. I am Raman and I am a linux enthusiast. I want to contribute to lubuntu development. How can I start? ... Untill now I have been mostly distro-hopping, but lubuntu was one os on which I was stable for a long, long time. I even have also started a blog regarding the same and made a post about lubuntu. Here is the [19:51] link : http://theloudspeaker.home.blog/2018/09/23/lubuntu-the-os-that-everyone-deserves-but-doesnt-need/ ... Please let me know how can I help. [19:54] Thanks for the blog post! Maybe you would be interested in helping with the Lubuntu Manual :) [19:54] Is your native language English out of curiosity? [19:54] How can I start? My native language is hindi but I am fine with English. [19:55] Testing is also something that you can do [19:55] True [19:56] @aptghetto [Testing is also something that you can do], I can test it on my pc. But in dual boot. I don't have an extra pc. [19:56] could use VMs, which is what I do for testing some things [19:56] just as an extra option ;) [19:56] @The_LoudSpeaker [How can I start? My native language is hindi but I am fine with English.], lynorian is around but on IRC, this channel is bridged there [19:57] and some of us are in both places. [19:57] *pokes lynorian because Simon said to* [19:57] :P [19:58] @tsimonq2 [lynorian is around but on IRC, this channel is bridged there], Should I connect on IRC then? [19:58] no [19:59] you can just stay on the Telegram [19:59] the messages you're typing are relayed here to IRC automatically [19:59] so lynorian will see the messages eventuall [19:59] as will I [19:59] except I can see them in both places 😛 [20:00] @teward [ the messages you're typing are relayed here to IRC automatically], Yup! I understood that from the messages, been in this chat for a couple of days now. [20:01] @tsimonq2 do you have some packaging work for me that should be done in the next two weeks? [20:01] @teward001 [except I can see them in both places 😛], and you get 2xnotifications \o/ [20:02] @The_LoudSpeaker [Yup! I understood that from the messages, been in this chat for a couple of days …], what's your background? studies? knowledge? [20:02] @HMollerCl [what's your background? studies? knowledge?], Confident with C. Currently studying M.Sc. physics tho. [20:02] Willing to learn. [20:03] awesome! [20:03] interests? anything you would like lubuntu to have that currenty has not? [20:04] Was trying to read and follow osdevs wiki. Working on setting up cross compiler. [20:06] @HMollerCl [interests? anything you would like lubuntu to have that currenty has not?], Would love to have something similar to kde connect from kubuntu for lubuntu but better, with abilities to manage phone calls on phone from lubuntu [20:07] so you are code enthusiast. Things are mainly written in C++ nad python [20:08] and for ui Qt [20:08] Okay. Listening. [20:08] Have just a basic experience with python. [20:09] if you want to start coding you could port things you like from gtk to qt. [20:09] Example? [20:10] an easy one i look a bit is redshift [20:10] you know it? [20:11] it's in python though [20:12] the gui (redshift-gtk) is in python [20:12] @aptghetto [@tsimonq2 do you have some packaging work for me that should be done in the next …], I can find something :) [20:12] https://github.com/jonls/redshift/tree/master/src [20:13] @The_LoudSpeaker [Would love to have something similar to kde connect from kubuntu for lubuntu but …], I had visited lubuntu phabricator a few months back, saw that online account intergration point(like in ubuntu) that functionality in lubuntu would be very much appreciated as low end systems can then connect with google [20:13] drive and dropbox seamlessly. It only makes lubuntu better as lubuntu focuses on low end and older systems. Correct me if I am wrong. [20:14] @HMollerCl [you know it?], No. Googling now. [20:14] dropbox works fine for me in lubuntu. haven't tried Gdrive [20:15] anyway, @tsimonq2 and wxl could give you other things with more priority to look at. [20:15] @HMollerCl [dropbox works fine for me in lubuntu. haven't tried Gdrive], Gdrive is more popular i guess. Due to all the sharing capabilities. [20:15] bugs are a big issue to. I'm currently looking bugs with libreoffice. [20:16] @HMollerCl [anyway, @tsimonq2 and wxl could give you other things with more priority to look …], Yup! Will be waiting. [20:16] @HMollerCl [bugs are a big issue to. I'm currently looking bugs with libreoffice.], Is there something I can help with? [20:16] testing [20:16] ^ [20:16] @HMollerCl [testing], So should I install latest lubuntu beta? [20:17] @The_LoudSpeaker in which version of lubuntu are you? [20:17] Set up a virtual machine [20:17] @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker in which version of lubuntu are you?], I have lubuntu 18.04 in vm. But my present linux distro is elementary os. Sorry. [20:18] ok, so you are still in lxde. [20:18] have you heard of 18.10 and lxqt? [20:18] Yup! [20:18] you can have more than one vm installed at once but to run multiple at the same time takes a ton of ram [20:19] @lynorian [ you can have more than one vm installed at once but to run multiple a …], I have 6 gigs only. I will set up 18.10 [20:19] setup a 19.04 [20:19] beta [20:20] Beta. Yes. [20:21] sorry, alpha [20:21] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/disco-desktop-amd64.iso [20:21] cutting edge [20:21] Downloading right away! [20:21] Thanks @The_LoudSpeaker! [20:27] One more thing, I use oracle virtualbox. Any other good alternatives? [20:27] On Windows, no. On Linux, virt-manager beats VirtualBox every time. [20:28] @The_LoudSpeaker [One more thing, I use oracle virtualbox. Any other good alternatives?], I use VBox it windows host [20:29] YMMV of course. :) [20:29] @HMollerCl [I use VBox in windows host], Same here. But I will be setting up lubuntu 19.04 in my linux system so, asked. I have seen virtualbox performing bad in linux. [20:29] @tsimonq2 [YMMV of course. :)], What's YMMV? [20:30] @The_LoudSpeaker [What's YMMV?], Your Mileage May Vary. It's a common saying :) [20:30] Lite. Just got it. [20:31] @tsimonq2 [Your Mileage May Vary. It's a common saying :)], 👍🏻 [20:31] @tsimonq2 so, regarding update-notifier [20:32] the only thing I haven't been able to handle is when during the process there are "questions" needed to be answered to continue [20:33] It happen to me sometimes with vbirtualbox [20:33] Ahh, perhaps you need a debconf frontend [20:33] the thingsis that I haven't been able to understand if/how aptdaemon handle it. [20:34] yeah that'd be debconf. however you should try and not use it if you can avoid it, is what i've read in Debian [20:34] @teward [ yeah that'd be debconf. however you should try and not use it if you c …], That is wrong [20:34] *shrugs* [20:35] just saying what i've heard, but it should be debconf iirc. [20:35] will look at it [20:35] apparently aptdaemon has something with debconf [20:35] @teward001 [just saying what i've heard, but it should be debconf iirc.], Ask vorlon and infinity :P [20:37] it haven't be form me easy to test error handling. Actually the problem with compton helped me in that. [20:37] @tsimonq2 [Ask vorlon and infinity :P], no thanks i'm good :P [20:37] i don't work with packages that need odd questions like that anyways [20:38] and the parts I do need that in are all apport hooks so :P [20:57] any ideas on how could I force questions for testing purpose? [21:12] @tsimonq2 [On Windows, no. On Linux, virt-manager beats VirtualBox every time.], I run 'sudo apt install virt-manager' is that enough? [21:49] @tsimonq2: can you get to landing this today? https://phab.lubuntu.me/D54 [21:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Accepted] Fix metadata for trusting executables: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D54 [21:50] wxl: Yep. [21:50] thx [21:50] np [22:21] @HMollerCl I got 19.10 running in vm. Ready for testing. You mentioned libre office bugs. Where do I look for them? [22:22] For now use it as you always use a system. Familiarize with it, it's different than lxde [22:22] Aye. [22:23] Read the manual that in the webpage [22:24] You should find answers for most of your initial questions. Also you could find errors a d missing in the manual [22:24] Okay. [22:35] wxl @tsimonq2 is there something I need to do for the no change rebuild to pcmanfm or does somebody else have that? [22:35] we'd take care of that [22:36] Gotcha, thanks. [22:36] once libfm-qt is in the release pocket, we'd just set it up [22:36] s/release/proposed/g [22:36] Understood, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something. [22:38] @HMollerCl The os seems preety unstable. Idk but it just got stuck while I was browsing. This happened twice. It would not take any input from keyboard. And would hang up. But only mouse can be moved. No effect of keys either. I had to force shut down it both times. [22:39] How much resources have you been giving it? [22:39] 2 gigs [22:39] 2 cpus [22:39] how many tabs in browser? [22:39] One only. [22:40] Earlier it stopped when I was changing preferences for libre office. [22:40] that's rare I haven't seen tha behaivour. [22:41] I will try again after dome time. [22:41] how much total ram do you have? [22:41] I have a total of 6 gigs. [22:42] hm this is rather strange [22:42] My host elementary os on acer aspire es1-132. If that helps. [22:42] although 6 gigs isn't a lot to do much if you're doing anything in the host [22:42] @wxl [ hm this is rather strange], Yes. It is. [22:43] @wxl [ although 6 gigs isn't a lot to do much if you're doing anything in the hos …], Nope nothing in host other than a text file in subl. [22:43] i certainly have used less resources on a more limited machine and not had problems [22:44] from where did you donloaded the iso¡? The link I gave you? [22:44] Yes. [22:44] did you install it or are you in the live session? [22:44] From your link [22:44] I installed it in virt-manager [22:46] I tried sending ctrl+alt+f1, f2, through virt-manager but no response. [22:47] send a screenshot of the desktop please? [22:48] Oops! Just shut my syatem down. Wait a min. I will restart [22:48] @tsimonq2 debconf needs sudo privileges? [22:48] @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 debconf needs sudo privileges?], Yeah, it probably does, but if you're upgrading your system you have administrator priviledges anyway [22:49] with aptdaemon you don't need [22:49] I am not familiar with the intricate differences between the two, sorry. [22:53] I will repeat as a parrot :"Aptdaemon allows normal users to perform package management tasks, e.g. refreshing the cache, upgrading the system, installing or removing software packages." [22:53] @wxl [ send a screenshot of the desktop please?], What screenshot do you require? Only desktop or some particular app? [22:53] desktop will suffice but if you want to send the task manager running, that'd be great [22:56] Can't find task manager in lubuntu [22:56] Wait got it [23:03] @wxl [ desktop will suffice but if you want to send the task manager running, tha …], ^There you go. [23:03] (Photo, 1024x768) https://i.imgur.com/mUbSFbs.jpg [23:04] aw was hoping to see the desktop too [23:06] (Photo, 1024x768) https://i.imgur.com/VGWLMQb.jpg [23:07] oh my god that background i'm blind [23:07] Any good tool to copy files from guest to host in virt-manager? I had to mail these screenshots before I could get them on my phone. XD [23:07] maybe since you're not using the host give it 4gb [23:07] @wxl [ oh my god that background i'm blind], XD [23:08] @The_LoudSpeaker [Any good tool to copy files from guest to host in virt-manager? I had to mail th …], install telegram in lubuntu [23:08] sudo apt install telegram-desktop [23:08] Yup! Will do that but still I need a tool to copy some files. [23:09] could you run ... apt list pcmanfm-qt [23:10] and tell what happens? [23:10] Wait a min. Currently running apt upgrade [23:10] it would be nice to see before the upgrade [23:11] I believe yould runin parañeñ [23:11] *you can [23:11] Oops! Upgrade completed before I saw your msg. [23:12] don't wory [23:12] in file manager got to about and tell me the version [23:12] (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/RcsuQQi.jpg These were upgraded. [23:12] @HMollerCl [in file manager got to about and tell me the version], 0.14.0 [23:13] ok, you are in the latest. [23:13] try ging more ram as wxl stated. [23:14] I will give 3 from next session. [23:14] I currently have 4G for it. I have an old computer with 2 Gb and it works perfect to. [23:14] core 2 duo 1,83ghz 667mhz bus [23:15] Currently it's not showing any problems. Let's see. Might be rectified after upgrade. [23:15] could be [23:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : [23:17] @lugito [ 3[ 13Membership 3] 15tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 2], What's this? [23:17] Ignore it :) [23:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : [23:26] the Simon broke it :P [23:28]