 As of right now, the Lubuntu Constitution is put into effect, as noted here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/constitution/browse/master/Constitution.md;1.0.0 ... This involves introduction of the Lubuntu Council and the Lubuntu Member system, which is officially ratified as of now. ... I would encourage all members of the community, w
 wow. more 'managers' than members....
 well, not really, but you are trying to get there!
 Reading
 If anyone figures out how to add icons and image through QAction with Qt let me know. Having issues doing it with the .qrc resource file
[02:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T181: Test LXQt 0.14.0 for bugs.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T181
[04:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T165: use ascending sort order in pcmanfm-qt] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T165#3595
[06:04] <lynorian> I got super busy today but have continued my manual work so I missed the meeting
 @tsimonq2 please review the latest Welcome Center D53 commit and share the link here so I can provide it to Artem to look at and build the welcome center with my latest changes
 Ok
 have anyone of yoy see this kind of updates in 18.10 ?
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/H4BQDjb.jpg
 (unattended upgrade during shutdown, don't turn off)
 @HMollerCl yes, I have, if you configure unattended-upgrades to not install until shutdown stages
 but it's rare I've seen that, and never usually on the desktop ISOs for any of the releases
[17:51] <papagayo> Hi you all. Do you think a way to reach online accounts in default lubuntu GUI will be integrated in future updates?
[17:52] <apt-ghetto> What do you mean? Online accounts are online and normally reachable through a browser.
[17:53] <papagayo> sorry but I can't find a way to reach it...
[17:54] <papagayo> system tool does'nt give access to "online accounts" option
[17:59] <teward> you mean that part of the Ubuntu desktop under settings called "Online Accounts" that lets you auth to various cloud service providers?
 that one?
 (Photo, 980x712) https://i.imgur.com/so5Rg4j.jpg
[18:01] <papagayo> yes that's it... but in Lubuntu
[18:02] <papagayo> you can fint it easyly using ubuntu but not in lubuntu
[18:04] <papagayo> this option seems to be missing
 Yeah, it's on the roadmap.
 but not yet in the environment
 I already know upstream is going to refuse such a feature either way.
 :
 Which roadmap?
 development roadmap probably?
 Of Lxqt or Lubuntu?
 if i'mi reading Simon's PMs right
 Lubuntu
 not upstream
 Right
[18:44] <papagayo> many thanks for your replies
 I've never used ubuntu, so I didn't knew that existed. It has connection to onedrive (Microsoft)?
[19:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdc88017bf177: Add qterminal custom background image] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdc88017bf177
[19:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa17a9ef5d0f8: Add split terminal instructions] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa17a9ef5d0f8
[19:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL270c20c9400a: Add qterminal switch vertical subterminals] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL270c20c9400a
[19:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL10aafe4db43c: Add switching left and right subterminal] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL10aafe4db43c
 Hii. Everyone. I am Raman and I am a linux enthusiast. I want to contribute to lubuntu development. How can I start? ... Untill now I have been mostly distro-hopping, but lubuntu was one os on which I was stable for a long, long time. I even have also started a blog regarding the same and made a post about lubuntu. Here is the
 Thanks for the blog post! Maybe you would be interested in helping with the Lubuntu Manual :)
 Is your native language English out of curiosity?
 How can I start? My native language is hindi but I am fine with English.
 Testing is also something that you can do
 True
 @aptghetto [Testing is also something that you can do], I can test it on my pc. But in dual boot. I don't have an extra pc.
 could use VMs, which is what I do for testing some things
 just as an extra option ;)
 @The_LoudSpeaker [How can I start? My native language is hindi but I am fine with English.], lynorian is around but on IRC, this channel is bridged there
[19:57] <teward> and some of us are in both places.
[19:57] <teward> *pokes lynorian because Simon said to*
[19:57] <teward> :P
 @tsimonq2 [lynorian is around but on IRC, this channel is bridged there], Should I connect on IRC then?
[19:58] <teward> no
[19:59] <teward> you can just stay on the Telegram
[19:59] <teward> the messages you're typing are relayed here to IRC automatically
[19:59] <teward> so lynorian will see the messages eventuall
[19:59] <teward> as will I
 except I can see them in both places 😛
 @teward [<teward> the messages you're typing are relayed here to IRC automatically], Yup! I understood that from the messages, been in this chat for a couple of days now.
 @tsimonq2 do you have some packaging work for me that should be done in the next two weeks?
 @teward001 [except I can see them in both places 😛], and you get 2xnotifications \o/
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Yup! I understood that from the messages, been in this chat for a couple of days …], what's your background? studies? knowledge?
 @HMollerCl [what's your background? studies? knowledge?], Confident with C. Currently studying M.Sc. physics tho.
 Willing to learn.
 awesome!
 interests? anything you would like lubuntu to have that currenty has not?
 Was trying to read and follow osdevs wiki. Working on setting up cross compiler.
 @HMollerCl [interests? anything you would like lubuntu to have that currenty has not?], Would love to have something similar to kde connect from kubuntu for lubuntu but better, with abilities to manage phone calls on phone from lubuntu
 so you are code enthusiast. Things are mainly written in C++ nad python
 and for ui Qt
 Okay. Listening.
 Have just a basic experience with python.
 if you want to start coding you could port things you like from gtk to qt.
 Example?
 an easy one i look a bit is redshift
 you know it?
 it's in python though
 the gui (redshift-gtk) is in python
 @aptghetto [@tsimonq2 do you have some packaging work for me that should be done in the next …], I can find something :)
 https://github.com/jonls/redshift/tree/master/src
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Would love to have something similar to kde connect from kubuntu for lubuntu but …], I had visited lubuntu phabricator a few months back, saw that online account intergration point(like in ubuntu) that functionality in lubuntu would be very much appreciated as low end systems can then connect with google 
 @HMollerCl [you know it?], No. Googling now.
 dropbox works fine for me in lubuntu. haven't tried Gdrive
 anyway, @tsimonq2 and wxl could give you other things with more priority to look at.
 @HMollerCl [dropbox works fine for me in lubuntu. haven't tried Gdrive], Gdrive is more popular i guess. Due to all the sharing capabilities.
 bugs are a big issue to. I'm currently looking bugs with libreoffice.
 @HMollerCl [anyway, @tsimonq2 and wxl could give you other things with more priority to look …], Yup! Will be waiting.
 @HMollerCl [bugs are a big issue to. I'm currently looking bugs with libreoffice.], Is there something I can help with?
 testing
 ^
 @HMollerCl [testing], So should I install latest lubuntu beta?
 @The_LoudSpeaker in which version of lubuntu are you?
 Set up a virtual machine
 @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker in which version of lubuntu are you?], I have lubuntu 18.04 in vm. But my present linux distro is elementary os. Sorry.
 ok, so you are still in lxde.
 have you heard of 18.10 and lxqt?
 Yup!
[20:18] <lynorian> you can have more than one vm installed at once but to run multiple at the same time takes a ton of ram
 @lynorian [<lynorian> you can have more than one vm installed at once but to run multiple a …], I have 6 gigs only. I will set up 18.10
 setup a 19.04
 beta
 Beta. Yes.
 sorry, alpha
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/disco-desktop-amd64.iso
 cutting edge
 Downloading right away!
 Thanks @The_LoudSpeaker!
 One more thing, I use oracle virtualbox. Any other good alternatives?
 On Windows, no. On Linux, virt-manager beats VirtualBox every time.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [One more thing, I use oracle virtualbox. Any other good alternatives?], I use VBox it windows host
 YMMV of course. :)
 @HMollerCl [I use VBox in windows host], Same here. But I will be setting up lubuntu 19.04 in my linux system so, asked. I have seen virtualbox performing bad in linux.
 @tsimonq2 [YMMV of course. :)], What's YMMV?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [What's YMMV?], Your Mileage May Vary. It's a common saying :)
 Lite. Just got it.
 @tsimonq2 [Your Mileage May Vary. It's a common saying :)], 👍🏻
 @tsimonq2 so, regarding update-notifier
 the only thing I haven't been able to handle is when during the process there are "questions" needed to be answered to continue
 It happen to me sometimes with vbirtualbox
 Ahh, perhaps you need a debconf frontend
 the thingsis that I haven't been able to understand if/how aptdaemon handle it.
[20:34] <teward> yeah that'd be debconf.  however you should try and not use it if you can avoid it, is what i've read in Debian
 @teward [<teward> yeah that'd be debconf.  however you should try and not use it if you c …], That is wrong
 *shrugs*
 just saying what i've heard, but it should be debconf iirc.
 will look at it
 apparently aptdaemon has something with debconf
 @teward001 [just saying what i've heard, but it should be debconf iirc.], Ask vorlon and infinity :P
 it haven't be form me easy to test error handling. Actually the problem with compton helped me in that.
 @tsimonq2 [Ask vorlon and infinity :P], no thanks i'm good :P
 i don't work with packages that need odd questions like that anyways
 and the parts I do need that in are all apport hooks so :P
 any ideas on how could I force questions for testing purpose?
 @tsimonq2 [On Windows, no. On Linux, virt-manager beats VirtualBox every time.], I run 'sudo apt install virt-manager' is that enough?
[21:49] <wxl> @tsimonq2: can you get to landing this today? https://phab.lubuntu.me/D54
[21:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Accepted] Fix metadata for trusting executables: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D54
[21:50] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yep.
[21:50] <wxl> thx
[21:50] <tsimonq2> np
 @HMollerCl I got 19.10 running in vm. Ready for testing. You mentioned libre office bugs. Where do I look for them?
 For now use it as you always use a system.  Familiarize with it, it's different than lxde
 Aye.
 Read the manual that in the webpage
 You should find answers for most of your initial questions. Also you could find errors a d missing in the manual
 Okay.
[22:35] <kc2bez> wxl @tsimonq2 is there something I need to do for the no change rebuild to pcmanfm or does somebody else have that?
[22:35] <wxl> we'd take care of that
[22:36] <kc2bez> Gotcha, thanks.
[22:36] <wxl> once libfm-qt is in the release pocket, we'd just set it up
[22:36] <tsimonq2> s/release/proposed/g
[22:36] <kc2bez> Understood, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something.
 @HMollerCl The os seems preety unstable. Idk but it just got stuck while I was browsing. This happened twice. It would not take any input from keyboard. And would hang up. But only mouse can be moved. No effect of keys either. I had to force shut down it both times.
 How much resources have you been giving it?
 2 gigs
 2 cpus
 how many tabs in browser?
 One only.
 Earlier it stopped when I was changing preferences for libre office.
 that's rare I haven't seen tha behaivour.
 I will try again after dome time.
[22:41] <wxl> how much total ram do you have?
 I have a total of 6 gigs.
[22:42] <wxl> hm this is rather strange
 My host elementary os on acer aspire es1-132. If that helps.
[22:42] <wxl> although 6 gigs isn't a lot to do much if you're doing anything in the host
 @wxl [<wxl> hm this is rather strange], Yes. It is.
 @wxl [<wxl> although 6 gigs isn't a lot to do much if you're doing anything in the hos …], Nope nothing in host other than a text file in subl.
[22:43] <wxl> i certainly have used less resources on a more limited machine and not had problems
 from where did you donloaded the iso¡? The link I gave you?
 Yes.
[22:44] <wxl> did you install it or are you in the live session?
 From your link
 I installed it in virt-manager
 I tried sending ctrl+alt+f1, f2, through virt-manager but no response.
[22:47] <wxl> send a screenshot of the desktop please?
 Oops! Just shut my syatem down. Wait a min. I will restart
 @tsimonq2 debconf needs sudo privileges?
 @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 debconf needs sudo privileges?], Yeah, it probably does, but if you're upgrading your system you have administrator priviledges anyway
 with aptdaemon you don't need
 I am not familiar with the intricate differences between the two, sorry.
 I will repeat as a parrot :"Aptdaemon allows normal users to perform package management tasks, e.g. refreshing the cache, upgrading the system, installing or removing software packages."
 @wxl [<wxl> send a screenshot of the desktop please?], What screenshot do you require? Only desktop or some particular app?
[22:53] <wxl> desktop will suffice but if you want to send the task manager running, that'd be great
 Can't find task manager in lubuntu
 Wait got it
 @wxl [<wxl> desktop will suffice but if you want to send the task manager running, tha …], ^There you go.
 (Photo, 1024x768) https://i.imgur.com/mUbSFbs.jpg
[23:04] <wxl> aw was hoping to see the desktop too
 (Photo, 1024x768) https://i.imgur.com/VGWLMQb.jpg
[23:07] <wxl> oh my god that background i'm blind
 Any good tool to copy files from guest to host in virt-manager? I had to mail these screenshots before I could get them on my phone. XD
[23:07] <wxl> maybe since you're not using the host give it 4gb
 @wxl [<wxl> oh my god that background i'm blind], XD
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Any good tool to copy files from guest to host in virt-manager? I had to mail th …], install telegram in lubuntu
 sudo apt install telegram-desktop
 Yup! Will do that but still I need a tool to copy some files.
 could you run ... apt list pcmanfm-qt
 and tell what happens?
 Wait a min. Currently running apt upgrade
 it would be nice to see before the upgrade
 I believe yould runin parañeñ
 *you can
 Oops! Upgrade completed before I saw your msg.
 don't wory
 in file manager got to about and tell me the version
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/RcsuQQi.jpg These were upgraded.
 @HMollerCl [in file manager got to about and tell me the version], 0.14.0
 ok, you are in the latest.
 try ging more ram as wxl stated.
 I will give 3 from next session.
 I currently have 4G for it. I have an old computer with 2 Gb and it works perfect to.
 core 2 duo 1,83ghz 667mhz bus
 Currently it's not showing any problems. Let's see. Might be rectified after upgrade.
 could be
[23:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 
 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13Membership  3]   15tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley)  :  2], What's this?
 Ignore it :)
[23:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 
[23:26] <teward> the Simon broke it :P
[23:28] <tsimonq2> hah
[23:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 
[23:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 
[23:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 
[23:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 
[23:52] <tsimonq2> Alright y'all, we now have a process for gaining Lubuntu Membership: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/membership/
[23:52] <tsimonq2> If you've been contributing to Lubuntu for the last few months we encourage you to apply.
[23:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) :