[00:28] <Mead> got a uncommon thing I want to do.  I have two computers on my desk, and I'd like to have the other computer's audio come into the line in port of my lubuntu machine and have it pass through to it's own speakers.
[00:29] <wxl> line out -> line in
[00:29] <wxl> pretty simple
[00:41] <Mead> physically yes, but how to I set lubuntu ot constantly monitor the line in?
[00:41] <wxl> which version?
[00:42] <Mead> 18.04
[00:42] <wxl> alsamixer is your friend
[00:45] <Mead> do I need to install or does is it installed by default?
[00:45] <wxl> default
[00:45] <wxl> open terminal; run alsamixer
[00:48] <Mead> run
[00:48] <Mead> not foung
[00:48] <Mead> err found
[00:48] <Mead> sorry switching between keyboards is disorinating
[00:51] <Mead> oh just type alsamixer I thought it was "run alsamixer"
[00:51] <wxl> yep
[00:51] <wxl> you had me booting vms because i couldn't imagine i was wrong
[00:51] <Mead> so I'm in the mixer, I've got audio going into the linein right now and I'm not hearing anything
[00:52] <wxl> so there's a couple things
[00:52] <wxl>  1. might not be loud enough. line in is kind of weak
[00:52] <wxl>  2. main isn't high enough or is muted
[00:52] <wxl>  3. channel isn't high enough or is muted
[00:53] <wxl> the channels that say 00 are not muted, but the ones that say MM are
[00:55] <Mead> well I know the lubuntu system isn't mutted, and in the sound setting "volume control"  it is showing activity with the blue bar moving around pretty good
[00:56] <wxl> you could also hit F4 and see where the output is heading to
[00:56] <Mead> "This device does not have nay capture controls"
[00:57] <wxl> hold on wait a minute i'm getting confused here sorry
[00:57] <wxl> playback is output, so that should be your speakers, whatever they might be
[00:58] <Mead> I know they work, I use kodi all the time on this sytem
[00:58] <wxl> capture SHOULD be your input
[00:58] <Mead> yeah, so it isn't listing any input/capture devices in alsamixer
[00:58] <wxl> ok let's try this
[00:59] <wxl> run the graphical application pavucontrol
[00:59] <wxl> it should be easier
[00:59] <Mead> is that pulseaudio volume control?
[01:00] <wxl> yes
[01:03] <Mead> I tried that before I came here, in the imput tab the blue bar under the volume slider is showing activity  but I see no option to tell it send the audio from the input device to the output device
[01:03] <wxl> Mead: if you have the right input and the right output selected, it should just work.
[01:05] <wxl> Greg: there's very few folks actually doing pi stuff, unfortunately. the only pi images we release are through ubuntu pi flavour maker and i believe those support the 3b. https://ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org/
[01:06] <Mead> I know the output is right, and I only have one input device
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[01:17] <Mead> I know in windows prior I had to specifically go to my settings for the input device and tell check a box to "listen" to the microphone/input
[01:22] <wxl> no
[01:23] <Mead> if this is the same stuff going on that heard about a couple weeks ago, lubuntu is no longer the lubuntu of years past, they aren't going to worry about supporting older hardware anymore like the distro was originally intended for
[01:23] <wxl> nope, it's about organizing in a way that lubuntu has never been
[01:24] <Mead> oh
[01:24] <wxl> but you're right, we are not going to EXCLUSIVELY focus on old hardware
[01:24] <wxl> because that would be pointless
[01:24] <wxl> i wouldn't make a distro to run on the commodore 64
[01:24] <Mead> go get puppy linux instead right?
[01:24] <wxl> ew, if you feel like torturing yourself, sure
[01:24] <Mead> hey don't make fun of the commodore 64 that was a great system in 1987
[01:25] <wxl> we're always going to be focusing on lightweight, but not at the expense of usability or functionality
[01:25] <Mead> might still hold the record for best selling computer of all time
[01:25] <wxl> i loved my commodore 64
[01:25] <wxl> my point is that no one uses them for anything anymore. it's impractical
[01:25] <wxl> the older hardware gets, the more this is true
[01:25] <wxl> so to say we're going to be the distro for old hardware-- no, thank you.
[01:26] <wxl> but to keep it to the "L" in "LXQt/LXDE," yes.
[01:26] <Mead> true, but is it not really for ending support of for older 32 bit systems ?
[01:26] <wxl> yes
[01:26] <wxl> because that is the way most of the world is going
[01:26] <wxl> and specifically for lubuntu we don't have a sufficient number of team members to support it on our own
[01:27] <wxl> as long as there was one other ubuntu flavor involved, we were all for it, but being the last one-- no way
[01:27] <wxl> we just CAN'T do it
[01:27] <wxl> not even if we want to
[01:28] <Mead> I just wish I could figure out this audio issue
[01:28] <wxl> yeah i'm at a loss
[01:30] <Mead> like I said, in windows to accomplish this in the past, I just go into the microphone properties and check a box to "listen to this device" and the audio passes through
[01:30] <wxl> and indeed it should be just as simple here
[01:30] <wxl> i've done it myself
[01:33] <Mead> I just don't get nearly the amount of options in the pulse audio thing
[01:36] <Mead> Think #ubuntu might have more help?  I know ##linux would just tell me to RTFM
[01:36] <wxl> worth a try
[04:09] <KaoGomi> Hello comrads
[04:25] <Mead> I'm more of a cohort, than a comrade
[04:25]  * Mead pours some Kentucky whiskey
[06:19] <Nemesis> Hello
[06:42] <qwebirc57479> Does anyone here have any experience with Terminator and setting custom layouts? I've got it to where it will load the splits that I specify, but for some reason it won't load them at the sizes I saved them to. Any suggestion?
[06:44] <lynorian> qwebirc57479: I have used terminator but I don't use it for splitting the terminals also keep in mind that is a really heavy terminal emulator
[06:45] <qwebirc57479> yeah I know, I just chose Lubuntu because I'm running it via virtual machine. The computer I use has plenty of oomph to handle pretty much anything I throw at it.
 Is ross kinetic available in lubuntu 18.04
[08:52] <acalycine> Hi, I'm trying to install lubuntu after being recommended it from #ubuntu. I'm now having the same issue I was having with Ubuntu and have had it with all the distros I've tried. It freezes once I press "Try lubuntu without installing" and then gives a kernel panic.
 @acalycine [<acalycine> Hi, I'm trying to install lubuntu after being recommended it from #u …], I had simillar problem. You might have some issue with display drivers. Tried kermel settings like nomodeset or acpi off?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Is ross kinetic available in lubuntu 18.04], Someone please reply.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Someone please reply.], How much RAM does your machine have?
 How much RAM does your machine have?
[20:47] <apt-ghetto> You can apply critical kernel patches without rebooting
 Livepatch applies important patches to your kernel as you are running the system, automatically, so that you don't have to update the kernel packages and reboot every time
 though you still should
[20:47] <apt-ghetto> That is mainly for servers, that are running 24/7
 ^ this
 @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> That is mainly for servers, that are running 24/7], this i mean.
 generally, yes, just do your regular updates
 my laptop runs LIvePatch but I have a tendency to NOT apply critical updates as soon as they're out
 (I do updates weekly)
[20:49] <apt-ghetto> reboot or shutdown your system from time to time and you are done
 ^ that
 it's not just your browser you have to do with your updates, you should be paying attention to the update manager notifications of when you have important system updates generally
 oh that reminds me
 @tsimonq2 any reason stripping out update-manager-core would break the GUI in Lubuntu 18.10?
 or 18.04 for that matter
 @teward001 [@tsimonq2 any reason stripping out update-manager-core would break the GUI in Lu …], ?
 @tsimonq2 i was trying to make changes to the default Lubuntu install locally for a work project so that I can let the users NOT get any notifications about updates, etc. and let unattended-upgrades handle that via cron, and in removing the update-manager bits the entire GUI seemed to have exploded
 was wondering whether there's anything I'm overlooking as potential causes OTHER than update-manager and its stuff being yankede
 for all I know the system i was using's got a crap graphics card or driver conflict
 I dunno
 @teward001 I don't understand your problem but maybe I can help you
 nah at this point i'mma blast this and start over
 and better analyze what's going on
[23:54] <dustinrdf> Does anyone know where I can find the tilix.desktop file in my filesystem? Trying to set it to load a custom session via the `exec` line in the desktop file.
[23:56] <wxl> if it's a normal ubuntu package in the repos, most likely /usr/share/applications
[23:56] <dustinrdf> yeah, I checked there. No luck.
[23:57] <wxl> i think the other is in ~/.local
[23:57] <teward> ~/.local/share/applications/
[23:57] <wxl> there ya go
[23:57] <wxl> was getting there
[23:58] <wxl> i guess /usr/local/share/applications is a potential posibility too
[23:58] <dustinrdf> only a chrome file in there....this is weird..
[23:58] <wxl> could always `find / -type f -name 'tilix.desktop' 2>/dev/null
[23:58] <wxl> `
[23:59] <dustinrdf> nothing turned up....with that so I guess there isn't one..but it's in my start menu...
[23:59] <wxl> log out/back in
[23:59] <dustinrdf> wow, that was horrible punctuation.
[23:59] <wxl> betcha it's gone