[03:21] <cryptodan> has anyone else reported a hung reboot process on a new install
[03:22] <sarnold> not recently
[03:23] <cryptodan> ive had 3 using ubuntu 18.04 on an HP ml350p
[04:14] <axisys> I know yum packages from defaults repos are signed.. is it same for deb packages from ubuntu repos?
[04:14] <axisys> I think so, but I want to double check
[04:16] <sarnold> axisys: the ubuntu / debian apt security model revolves around the repository keys in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
[04:16] <sarnold> axisys: by default it is set up to trust official ubuntu mirrors
[04:17] <sarnold> axisys: anyone can run a mirror, but some mirrors are more up to date than others
[04:17] <axisys> sarnold: thank you!
[04:17] <sarnold> axisys: the InRelease files in the archive mirrors describe the files containing SHA256 hashes
[04:17] <sarnold> and those describe the packages
[04:18] <sarnold> so the packages aren't individually signed, but you can follow a chain of trust back towards the public keys on your system
[04:19] <sarnold> axisys: take a look at the InRelease file here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/
[04:21] <axisys> sarnold: so that is different from yum I think where individual packages are signed? OR probably not.. I suppose a question for different channel .. appreciate all these details
[04:22] <sarnold> axisys: definitely; the last time I used yum it was on a g3 ibook :)
[04:22] <sarnold> axisys: the last time I used rpm, definitely each rpm was individually signed
[04:22] <sarnold> but I don't know if that's still the case
[04:24] <axisys> sarnold: checking with #centos .. thanks again
[04:25] <sarnold> woot
[04:25] <sarnold> have fun axisys
[04:28] <cryptodan> my Dell PowerEdge 4600 has been decommissioned, and I am now on ubuntu 18.04 with this https://termbin.com/cpl4
[04:28] <sarnold> 92 gigs?
[04:35] <cryptodan> yup
[04:42] <mybalzitch> you need some 2670's or better in that baby
[04:43] <cryptodan> its for small home office and hobby machine
[07:21] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:06] <Myros> Hello, my server crashed, what should i do? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BK4sVMvKzK/
 Myros: storage issues (amongst other, but those are critical). replace sdf
[08:09] <tomreyn> your hard disks seem to generally run way too hot
[08:09] <tomreyn> thats if those readings are correct
[08:14] <tomreyn> why do you run gnome-shell on y server?
[08:14] <tomreyn> s/ y / a /
[08:15] <tomreyn> Myros: do you actually read this?
[08:15] <Myros> Yes
[08:16] <Myros> I use the server with other persons gnome-shell is likley from another user
[08:21] <tomreyn> you should probably be using separate hardware.
[08:23] <tomreyn> until then, sort out the disk and cooling issues.
[08:23] <Myros> Ok, thanks
[08:26] <Myros> Wait, how hot are my disk, i found only 39° on sdb and 35° on sdf
[08:26] <Myros> What did you found?
[08:29] <lordievader> 40C for a disk is quite hot. You want those to be around 20-30C.
[08:30] <tomreyn> Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 115 to 113
[08:31] <tomreyn> those can be raw values, hopefully are
[08:32] <tomreyn> your php installation also looks broken
[08:32] <tomreyn> mixed API versions on modules
[08:34] <Myros> Ok thanks
[09:13] <blackflow> tomreyn: those are normalized values. smartd logs normalized values changes.
[09:18] <tomreyn> blackflow: unless it states differently, i'd expect them to be normalized, too. but then there is sometimes incorrect data in smart's db. and while we don't know how these hdds are installed, it is surprising that smartd reports temperatures around 40 °C for some and > 100 °C for others.
[09:18] <tomreyn> either way, needs investigation
[09:22] <blackflow> depends how the vendor is encoding the normalized value, but smartd will always logged normalized values.
[09:22] <blackflow> *log
[10:59] <ahasenack> good morning
[14:27] <kstenerud> Did something just break on cosmic-security?
[14:27] <kstenerud> E: Type 'cosmic-security' is not known on line 50 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:27] <kstenerud> this just started happening on new lcd containers 2 minutes ago
[14:27] <kstenerud> lxd
[14:30] <kstenerud> ... and now it works again :/
[14:31] <Ussat> gremlins
[14:31] <genii> Probably hit the server while it was being updated
[14:35] <evit> Howdy yall
[14:36] <evit> Does anyone know why the Ubuntu security notice website and announce list sometimes lag behind the actual patches?
[14:39] <tomreyn> sending a lot of e-mails probably takes hours
[14:42] <evit> tomreyn, It must take like a whole day for those 0's and 1's to crawl through all the cables of the Interwebs.... =P
[14:44] <sdeziel> evit: another possibility is to that some time is given for external mirrors to pull the new packages
[14:44] <evit> I'm speakin of https://usn.ubuntu.com/
[14:45] <evit> Not showing updates until the day AFTER they are released some times
[14:45] <evit> The day AFTER the announce list email goes out
[14:45] <sdeziel> evit: I'd ask on #ubuntu-hardened
[14:47] <evit> Just seems odd... Some of those vuln are no joke, seems like the site and annouce list should be updated immediately
[14:49] <evit> gracias!
[16:33] <coreycb> jamespage: for py3 openstack dependencies, should we go ahead and drop all py2 packages from deps that swift doesn't depend on?
[16:49] <Deihmos> anyone use powernap on their server
[16:53] <coreycb> jamespage: it only depends on a few projects like python-keystone* but it might get to be a tangled mess
[17:04] <coreycb> jamespage: btw i let bileto do all my dep 8 tests and it took longer but it is really nice to just land into -updates!
[17:05] <coreycb> actually -release, but same idea, not -proposed
[17:10] <coreycb> jamespage: anyway basically done with stein snapshots on my end
[22:48] <zzlatev_> Hi
[22:48] <zzlatev_> I need some help
[22:49] <tomreyn> !ask | zzlatev_
[22:49] <zzlatev_> I compiled nginx from source, but now i have two versions
[22:49] <zzlatev_> how can I use the new one?
[22:50] <SimonNL> zzlatev_: good luck
[22:50] <zzlatev_> thanx
[22:56] <tomreyn> uninstall the packaged one, and (maybe, to be considered) follow the instructions on the INSTALL file (if it exists) or README file to make it usable.
[22:57] <zzlatev_> tomreyn:
[22:57] <tomreyn> a better option may be to use the ubuntu packaged nginx pakcages, or their source packages, and patch + build those.
[22:58] <zzlatev_> i use the official source
[23:03] <tomreyn> so?
[23:05] <zzlatev_> Hi guys
[23:06] <zzlatev_> I have installed webmin but there's nothing on port 10000
[23:06] <zzlatev_> can you hel me
[23:06] <sarnold> you can use sudo netstat -tlnp to find the listening port
[23:06] <sarnold> be careful with webmin
[23:06] <sarnold> historically they've had crap code
[23:07] <sarnold> loads of remote vulnerabilities.. so be sure to restrict access to it to only the machine you want to use to admin it
[23:08] <tomreyn> such as localhost
[23:08] <zzlatev_> sarnold: yes, I have bad experience with it
[23:08] <zzlatev_> but now i need it because of nginx and stalker portal
[23:10] <zzlatev_> sarnold: can you help me with nginx?
[23:10] <zzlatev_> I have two of them now
[23:10] <sarnold> zzlatev_: you'll have to be a lot more specific
[23:10] <zzlatev_> OK
[23:10] <sarnold> why do you have two? what are youtrying to accomplish? etc
[23:11] <zzlatev_> I want to install new version of nginx for example - 1.15
[23:11] <zzlatev_> the only option for that is to compiled from source
[23:13] <zzlatev_> I did this and now I have two nginx - one from source and one from ppa
[23:15] <zzlatev_> sarnold:
[23:15] <zzlatev_> that's it
[23:15] <sarnold> hah, I kept waiting for some kind of question, or problem you're having, etc :)
[23:16] <sarnold> what's your goal? do you want to remove the one we've packaged for you?
[23:16] <sarnold> or do you just want to know how to run them both simultaneously?
[23:17] <zzlatev_> I want to run the new version
[23:17] <zzlatev_> because I need it for my stalker portal
[23:17] <zzlatev_> that's it
[23:17] <zzlatev_> now I have two versions
[23:20] <zzlatev_> sarnold:
[23:22] <sarnold> zzlatev_: I don't know how you installed your new version
[23:23] <sarnold> zzlatev_: you're the one who's going to know how to use it :)
[23:24] <zzlatev_> I ask about how to remove the old one...
[23:26] <sarnold> aha!
[23:26] <sarnold> apt-get purge nginx
[23:27] <teward> i see nginx referenced  heh
[23:28] <zzlatev_> sarnold: does this command erase all nginx?
[23:28] <zzlatev_> ok, i don't need to erase anything
[23:28] <zzlatev_> i need to use the new version
[23:28] <zzlatev_> can you help me guys?
[23:28] <teward> zzlatev_: it'll erase the NGINX that was installed by the package
[23:28] <sarnold> hey teward
[23:28] <teward> the package itself will only utilize its own version, because of how the SystemD unit is configured
[23:28] <sarnold> zzlatev_: apt-get purge nginx will only remove the version that we packaged
[23:28] <teward> i should PROBABLY mention...
[23:29] <teward> that I also provide a 1.15.x PPA that is very close to what we have in Ubuntu in terms of package structure
[23:29] <teward> so no need to manually compile from source ;)
[23:29] <teward> we just don't advertise PPAs here typically
[23:29] <zzlatev_> ok, that sounds good
[23:29] <teward> !ppa
[23:29] <teward> because that ^
[23:29] <zzlatev_> teward: do you mean that 1.15 is in PPA?
[23:30] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/ubuntu/development
[23:30] <teward> Yes, there is a PPA that contains 1.15 and can be installed like the Ubuntu repositories' version is.
[23:30] <teward> https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/ubuntu/development  <-- yep this one
[23:32] <zzlatev_> come on...really
[23:32] <sarnold> zzlatev_: yeah :) teward's been taking good care of nginx for us for ages :)
[23:33] <teward> been doing this since 2014 :P
[23:33] <zzlatev_> but what about compiled
[23:34] <teward> i'm not sure what you did to install the compiled version
[23:34] <teward> but the by-hand compiling that you did will not be run unless you installed it WITHOUT the Ubuntu version of nginx installed
[23:35] <teward> because of reasons and conflicting configuration file(s) and versions, and incorrectly-configured SystemD units which handle autostart of nginx
[23:35] <zzlatev_> so if I install your version 1.15 from the repo it will replace the old one
[23:35] <teward> it will replace the one from the main Ubuntu repository that you used, yes.
[23:35] <zzlatev_> yes
[23:36] <zzlatev_> apt-get insttall nginx
[23:36] <zzlatev_> or nginx-dev
[23:36] <zzlatev_> ?
[23:36] <zzlatev_> from the repo
[23:36] <teward> just apt-get install nginx
[23:36] <zzlatev_>  nginx-full
[23:36] <zzlatev_> The following packages will be upgraded:
[23:36] <zzlatev_>   nginx nginx-common
[23:36] <zzlatev_> 2 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[23:37] <zzlatev_> 955 kB of additional disk space will be used.
[23:37] <zzlatev_> only 955kb?
[23:37] <teward> there's not much difference between what's in Ubuntu currently and what you're installing.  :P
[23:37] <teward> similar, but different.  :P
[23:37] <zzlatev_> i have installed 1.10 from ubuntu
[23:38] <zzlatev_> i don't know from what repo
[23:38] <teward> oops i accidentally burned food back in a moment
[23:38] <zzlatev_> which*
[23:38] <teward> zzlatev_: you installed the version that was in the Ubuntu repositories
[23:38] <zzlatev_> yes
[23:39] <zzlatev_> teward: come ooooooooon
[23:39] <zzlatev_> you are great!
[23:40] <zzlatev_> zlatev@Zlatev:~$ nginx -V
[23:40] <zzlatev_> nginx version: nginx/1.15.6