[00:44] <trippy-takkha> hello
[00:48] <Intelo> I want to increase partition space on an installed ubuntu os. What are my options?
[00:50] <Tin_man> size of the partitions ?
[00:50] <leftyfb> Intelo: https://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-resize-partitions-with-the-ubuntu-or-gparted-live-cd  # first result on google for "ubuntu increase partition size"
[00:50] <Intelo> Tin_man,  around 100 gb
[00:51] <Tin_man> see above, if un eventful the come back..
[00:51] <Intelo> Tin_man,  didn't googled as didnt wanted to take chances
[00:51] <leftyfb> Intelo: if you're concerned about an extra 100MB, you're doing it wrong
[00:51] <Intelo> leftyfb,  my / is almost ful. I have 100 gb partition on same drive
[00:52] <leftyfb> ugh, my bad. I read it as MB, not GB. Sorry
[00:52] <OerHeks> i hope the free space is next to your ubuntu install
[00:52] <Intelo> OerHeks,  I cannot confirm that
[00:52] <leftyfb> OerHeks: you can shift things around. Though grub might get angry, but fixable.
[00:52] <OerHeks> true.
[00:53] <Tin_man> see gparted, and look
[00:53] <OerHeks> if you snoop of windows, let windows decrease the size
[00:53] <Tin_man> if dual, i wouldn't mess with it..
[00:55] <Intelo> Tin_man,  it is dual boot
[00:55] <Tin_man> better to but a cheap hdd, or other and include it in your fstab
[00:55] <leftyfb> or just wipe Windows :)
[00:56] <Intelo> I would wipe windows but how to make that space available to ubuntu?
[00:56] <Tin_man> i don't like dual boot, and i did it (years ago)..
[00:56] <Intelo> Tin_man,  if not dual, how do you run windows? vbox?
[00:56] <Tin_man> 2 different machines
[00:56] <Tin_man> not VR
[00:57] <strangerr> is there an option to have 'apt install' either not prompt me to configure the package it wants me to interactively configure, or to set variables it can automatically use to configure the package?
[00:59] <Tin_man> you have so many ways to communicate with them. WINSCP from windows to linux, SSH, Etc.. etc..
[01:04] <Intelo> Tin_man,  leftyfb  hey, I just deleted windows partition and resized ubuntu partition. It seems it reflects what I wanted via gparted. Should I expect crashes for ubuntu in future or need to worry about anything?
[01:05] <Intelo> What are limitations of windows running as guest in vbox?
[01:05] <Tin_man> don't know never tried it.. I don't run dual anything. might try someone that is an expert on partitions..
[01:07] <Tin_man> Intelo, if you have a really good back up then I wouldn't worry about it.. see what happens
[01:08] <VitoG> too many asswipes in life
[01:09] <Tin_man> in the big scheme of life i'd rather them wipe than not..
[01:09] <VitoG> haha
[01:09] <VitoG> good one
[01:09] <VitoG> tin man are you chinese by any chance?
[01:10] <Tin_man> god i hope not
[01:10] <VitoG> just wondering, i know of someone who used that name before
[01:11] <Tin_man> i've had it for a tad bit, has to do with my local in life..
[01:11] <VitoG> i see
[01:11] <hggdh> folks, please let's keep on-topic
[01:11] <VitoG> sorry
[01:11] <Tin_man> yes. way off..
[01:30] <SBTlauien> Hi
[01:33] <leonardus> anyone know what could have caused this crash? https://i.imgur.com/ALGFPVL.png
[01:33] <leonardus> the game I was on started slowing to a crawl, eventually the computer became unusable, and after a few minutes the game and discord crashed, and I get that message
[01:34] <leonardus> it says something about AudioDeviceLinuxPulse, could it be PulseAudio causing the crash?
[01:42] <psyrus> is anyone familiar with sparky distro
[01:48] <leftyfb> psyrus: other distro's are not supported here
[01:50] <psyrus> well what I am getting at though, is it has wine preinstalled in it, when i go to synpatic to try and install wine on my linux partition, it doesn't work but with a certain list of programs and theres windows apps on there i wanna run but they're not on the list
[01:51] <psyrus> wine doesn't work with hardly any of the programs I wanna use i don't wanna run apps that are just on that play on linux list
[01:54] <leftyfb> psyrus: other distro's are not supported here
[01:54] <OerHeks> sparky nor wine issues are supported in this channel, general ##linux or #winehq maybe a good idea
[01:59] <leonardus> how do I stop this from happening https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ftTcp4wJrk/
[03:12] <TruenHero> hi, anyone knows when i use $xrandr --output LVDS1 --scale-from 1920x1080_60.0 the area of mouse movement is limited,
[03:13] <hggdh> leonardus: you ran out of memory
[03:37] <xadversaryxx> hellooo
[03:56] <xtramayo> hello robscomputer
[03:57] <robscomputer> hi xtramayo!
[03:57] <xtramayo> how's it going?
[04:03] <xtramayo> https://web.archive.org/web/sitemap/debaser003.addr.com
[04:14] <xtramayo> <iframe src="https://onedrive.live.com/embed?cid=3A6838D977CA88B0&resid=3A6838D977CA88B0%21501&authkey=ALEnnzeVWhmSDbg" width="98" height="120" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>
[04:14] <SlidingHorn> xtramayo: please don't post irrelevant links in the channel.  Thanks :)
[04:17] <Vic2> I have a question EoL dates ... for example, when Ubuntu 14.04 goes EoL in April, will that mean as of that date you CANNOT do any package updates (upgrades? not sure of correct term) at all, or does it simply mean that there will be no new updates after that date?  And if it is the latter, how long would someone still running be able to update to the very final versions of everything?
[04:19] <SlidingHorn> Vic2: I'm honestly not sure if/when they kill the repos entirely.  I wouldn't want to test it.  I like to have secure, updated systems
[04:21] <Vic2> Slidinghorn I do not disagree ... but I am writing something about ending support for 14.04 for a project that supports 14.04 and 18.04, and need some facts to back me up. :)
[04:32] <SlidingHorn> Vic2: it looks like you can still find archived old repositories at old-releases.ubuntu.com
[04:35] <Mythikos> I have Ubuntu 18.04 on my first SSD, and just installed Windows 10 on a second SSD. I'm wondering: Is there something I can do to make it easier during boot up to select which drive to boot into? Altering the boot sequence seems ineffective
[04:35] <Vic2> Slidinghorn - yes thank you.  You gave me the magic words to Google. :)
[04:36] <tomreyn> Mythikos: add windows to grub2
[04:36] <Mythikos> tomreyn, I see. I'll web search that
[04:36] <tomreyn> and optionally force the grub menu to show
[04:38] <Mythikos> I'm in uncharted territory (for me). I used to dual boot on the same drive. This is a bit different
[04:39] <Deihmos> is there no way to make a tiny install?
[04:39] <Deihmos> barebone install
[04:40] <tomreyn> Deihmos: the desktop installer offers a "minimal desktop" (or similar) installation, a smaller one can be created using either of the server installers, a yet smaller one by debootstrap.
[04:41] <Mythikos> tomreyn, <sudo update-grub> I think that did it. The output listed Windows Boot Manager. Now I just need to double check some of the UEFI settings
[04:41] <Mythikos> tomreyn, Thanks!
[04:42] <tomreyn> Mythikosoh, nice and simple.
[04:42] <Mythikos> It was. Just need to be pointed in the right direction
[04:42] <Mythikos> Cheers!
[04:42] <Mythikos> needed*
[04:42] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[04:50] <xtramayo> robscomputer: yt?
[04:53] <SlidingHorn> xtramayo: do you have an ubuntu support question we can help with?
[05:05] <xtramayo> SlidingHorn: i am downloading ubuntu now
[05:20] <xtramayo> hello Gazooo
[05:20] <xtramayo> hello carif
[05:21] <SlidingHorn> xtramayo: please keep posts to ubuntu support - if you'd like to just chat, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:22] <xtramayo> I'd like for an experienced programmer to test abacadup on Wine
[05:23] <SlidingHorn> xtramayo: for wine support, try #winehq
[05:24] <xtramayo> or, i'd like to test ubuntu as a target for files copied using abacadup
[05:30] <SlidingHorn> !backup | xtramayo these are better ideas
[05:32] <xtramayo> great, but what if it's networked with windows 98?
[05:33] <SlidingHorn> xtramayo: it's not.  So we don't have to worry about that.
[05:34] <xtramayo> spit valve
[05:35] <xtramayo> i'd need two instances of oracle wouldn't i?
[05:37] <xtramayo> eh, windows 10 as a host will work i guess
[05:38] <xtramayo>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> xtramayo: this channel is for helping real users with ubuntu troubles, please dont troll here
[06:19] <pianist35> Hello guys! How are you
[06:20] <pianist35> Bro 3  days ago  I tried install Geforce 210 on Ubuntu 8.10 --- so  I installed  Ubuntu 8.04 I have the same error! I read a lot information askubuntu.com
[06:21] <pianist35> But I don't  What I'm doing because I funcking noob!
[06:21] <Mead> I'm about to go F'ing nutz on this no carb diet, that is how I am.
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> pianist35: you should know 8.10 is long end of life by now
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Mead
[06:22] <SlidingHorn> pianist35: also, please watch your language.  Even thinly masking swear words isn't appropriate here
[06:23] <pianist35> Ok bro! sorry for my languaje!
[06:23] <pianist35> I'm so stresfull you know!
[06:24] <SlidingHorn> pianist35: like lotuspsychje said, though, 8.10 and 8.04 have both been end of life for *many* years now.
[06:24] <xtramayo> i've pwnd a Geforce 210
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> xtramayo: please only use this channel when you have an ubuntu question
[06:25] <pianist35> @xtramayo  really? How you do that? Guide me sensey
[06:25] <SlidingHorn> pianist35: that's off topic here.  Please don't feed that particular troll :)
[06:25] <xtramayo> you insert it into a standard PCI
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> xtramayo: stop that please
[06:25] <pianist35> T_T
[06:26] <xtramayo> slot
[06:26] <SlidingHorn> !ot > xtramayo
[06:27] <geekosopher> so now that 14.04 will reach EOL, will there be a direct upgrade to 19.04?
[06:28] <SlidingHorn> geekosopher: no.  You'll likely need to upgrade incrementally to 16.04 and then 18.04.  19.04 will not be an LTS release
[06:29] <geekosopher> oh ok SlidingHorn. Ain't there a direct upgrade to 18.04 either?
[06:29] <xtramayo> pianist35: i think you might need an AMD processor
[06:30] <SlidingHorn> geekosopher: I don't *believe* so...
[06:30] <SlidingHorn> xtramayo: last request.  Please stop with the off-topic conversation.
[06:31] <geekosopher> thanks SlidingHorn
[06:31] <xtramayo> it worked with an AMD dual core and Windows XP
[06:31] <SlidingHorn> geekosopher: not a problem
[06:33] <pianist35> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xmKqPJhs6g/
[06:34] <pianist35> my Nvidia-setting don't show the graphic card
[06:35] <xtramayo> pianist35: the thing to remember is that the card is for desktop and gaming combined
[06:35] <xtramayo> nvidia drivers worked for me
[06:36] <SlidingHorn> xtramayo: "it worked for me" is not a helpful answer.  If you cannot be helpful and stay on topic, please leave this channel.
[06:36] <SlidingHorn> pianist35: what is the output of   cat /etc/release | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:36] <xtramayo> i saw the most amazing sunset the other evening
[06:37] <SlidingHorn> !ops | xtramayo
[06:37] <SlidingHorn> pianist35: Correction:   cat /etc/lsb-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:38] <pianist35> # cat /etc/lsb-release | nc termbin.com 9999 https://termbin.com/t4rn
[06:39] <xtramayo> sliding pianist.
[06:41] <SlidingHorn> pianist35:  lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA' | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:42] <pianist35> https://termbin.com/5we3
[06:43] <SlidingHorn> pianist35: okay, so you're using the nouveau driver - what seems to be the problem with it?
[06:43] <pianist35> Because When I use my games opengl  memory ram crap..
[06:44] <pianist35> for example tibia! consume 10gb ram wtf
[06:44] <xtramayo> it uses onboard DIMM
[06:44] <xtramayo> you need 1 or 2 gigs, and uses onboard ram
[06:45] <xtramayo> if you'll notice, there are no memory chips on the card
[06:45] <xtramayo> just a fan
[06:45] <pianist35> If I configure my games only Interface software! not problem if I use Open GL memory ram crash
[06:46] <pianist35> So I think I don't have the correct driver for my graphic card
[06:47] <SlidingHorn> xtramayo: tibia does not require "1 or 2 gigs" of RAM.  Please stop.
[06:47] <pianist35> SlidingHorn: nvidia-x-sever-setting don't show the graphic card
[06:47] <xtramayo> what's listed then?
[06:48] <pianist35> Tibia use 10 gb ram in 3 min! I monitored the process!
[06:48] <pianist35> I'm wrong?  the problem is the graphic card?
[06:49] <xtramayo> how many gigs do you have on the motherboard?
[06:50] <SlidingHorn> pianist35: how did you install tibia?
[06:51] <pianist35> I have a tutorial
[06:51] <pianist35> wait a moment
[06:54] <pianist35> SlidingHorn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dgzHdxzWsj/
[06:57] <pianist35> Bro it's corrrect If I try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1085042/ubuntu-18-10-installing-nvidia-drivers-leads-to-black-screen-after-grub   or I crash my pc again?
[07:00] <xtramayo> that's not for a GeForce 210
[07:00] <pianist35> But it's similar to my error!
[07:01] <pianist35> But, I'm wrong? is the problem a graphic card driver?
[07:02] <pianist35> or another configuration
[07:02] <xtramayo> perhaps it's referred to as something else in the configuration
[07:03] <pianist35> xorg.conf?
[07:03] <xtramayo> clicky
[07:03] <pianist35> I don't know why it's memory ram crash!
[07:03] <pianist35> only if I use open GL
[07:04] <xtramayo> https://askubuntu.com/questions/527638/how-to-install-drivers-for-nvidia-gt210
[07:04] <xtramayo> or is that dangling like a fruit on the beach?
[07:08] <pianist35> xtramayo: thank you
[07:08] <pianist35> SlidingHorn: Thank you
[07:08] <xtramayo> yw!
[07:28] <syd> Hey there folks, I don't know why, but my ubuntu 18.10 is taking too long to boot lately
[07:29] <syd> Sometimes, it so happens that a black screen keeps continuing and never loads anything when booted.
[07:29] <syd> can anyone help?
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !patience | syd
[07:30] <syd> oops, sorry
[07:49] <conte1983> Ciao
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> !it | conte1983
[07:53] <conte1983> Salve a tutti ...
[07:53] <conte1983> Ok
[07:56] <pianist35> SlidingHorn:
[07:57] <pianist35> Bro I did it
[07:58] <pianist35> If someone have this problem this a tutorial https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4Gktm25sJ8/
[07:58] <pianist35> Thank you so much
[08:24] <Ascavasaion> Hello there... what is the command to check if linux installed is 32 or 64 bit?  lsb_release?  uname -a?  Reason I ask is because I am trying to run a 64 bit Windows 2012 server in Virtualbox, but it is only giving me 32 bit options when I try to create a new virtual machine.  lsb_release -a and uname -a give the following... https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/SnFCPjfqgv/x
[08:26] <SwedeMike> Ascavasaion: uname -a will tell you what the kernel is, if it's 64 bit or not.
[08:26] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: x86_64 indicates 64-bit
[08:26] <Ascavasaion> I installed from this USB media... "Lubuntu 18.04.1 LTS amd64"
[08:26] <SwedeMike> Ascavasaion: dpkg -l will show you if your packages are 32bit or 64bit as ll
[08:26] <Ascavasaion> thank you SwedeMike and ducasse
[08:28] <Ascavasaion> SwedeMike: the dpkg -l command lists all applications as either "all" or "amd64".  Don't undestand why virtualbox will not recognise the 64bit installations
[08:30] <Ascavasaion> in the dpkg -l line it states "ii  virtualbox                           5.2.18-dfsg-2~ubuntu18. amd64                   x86 virtualization solution - base binaries".  Looks suspiciously like I have installed x86 stuff?  Orhave I misunderstood?
[08:30] <ksdnn> does ubuntu have proton?
[08:31] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: amd64 means you have the 64-bit package
[08:31] <Ascavasaion> Okay, thank you.
[08:32] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: are the virtualbox modules built and loaded properly?
[08:33] <client35> I'm not trying to be snobbish, but more observational - why would anyone have to adjust their workflow to an OS update schedule?'
[08:34] <client35> I recently switched over from Win10 to 18.04 for my daily b/c I don't game as often and have started more docker/github projects
[09:07] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: I am not sure... I did a sudo apt install virtualbox, and took it from there.  but still no 32bit modes
[09:07] <Ascavasaion> going to reboot and check something
[09:21] <ksdnn> does ubuntu have proton?
[09:26] <Polesch> How do I add a jar file to path?
[09:27] <ducasse> Polesch: you don't add files, you add directories
[09:28] <Polesch> Let me rephrase, I'm trying to run shovill, but it gives this error: "[shovill] Could not find 'pilon' - please install it." Pilon is a java application found here: https://github.com/broadinstitute/pilon/releases -- how do I make shovill find pilon after downloading it?
[09:33] <qwebirc2738> join
[09:33] <qwebirc2738> hello
[09:34] <qwebirc2738> I am using linux mint on my hp i3,4gb ram, but is hanging while i am working on chrome
[09:34] <qwebirc2738> everytime
[09:34] <qwebirc2738> is it good to switch to ubuntu
[09:55] <spinningCat> hey
[09:55] <spinningCat> ubuntu 18.04 is stable now?
[09:56] <blackflow> spinningCat: define "stable". it's out since april last year.
[09:59] <spinningCat> not lots of bugs
[10:00] <spinningCat> works smoothly
[10:00] <spinningCat> etc.
[10:01] <spinningCat> i am using 16.04 should i start using 18.04
[10:01] <Kyros> for what use case?
[10:01] <Kyros> im desktop = yes server = no
[10:01] <Kyros> imo
[10:01] <spinningCat> i  am just developer whp is not into linux so much
[10:02] <Kyros> yeah go for it
[10:02] <spinningCat> i just want to do programming in stable env
[10:02] <Kyros> im must salty cause they added a network regression a few months back
[10:02] <ducasse> spinningCat: upgrade if you need newer packages
[10:03] <Kyros> my desktop is 18.04 though
[10:07] <Sveta> spinningCat: long term support (LTS) releases are more stable, 18.04 is one of them I think
[10:07] <spinningCat> I see
[10:08] <Sveta> spinningCat: there is a nice chart about releases at https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[10:12] <spinningCat> let me check
[10:21] <itzofficialalex> hi
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> welcome itzofficialalex
[10:23] <itzofficialalex> op %a
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> itzofficialalex: can we help you with something today?
[10:34] <redraven> hi. can someone help me which command is used to list all users that are allowed to log-in?
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> redraven: you mean the list of total users on the system?
[10:36] <EriC^> redraven: have a look at /etc/passwd for users with a shell at the end and a password in the password field
[10:38] <redraven> @EriC^: thanks... a look in the passwd was the solution...
[10:39] <EriC^> redraven: this gets you close if you have a huge file, then check the password field in /etc/shadow grep -vE "bin/false|bin/true|bin/nologin" /etc/passwd
[10:39] <EriC^> redraven: no problem
[11:16] <thaurwylth> Am I correct in thinking that a screen reader is a software that pronounces through voice synthesis material that is written on the visual screen, and that this will be only an issue if people would actually use such a screen reader? 'The screen reader doesn't read the installer when executed from a live session (bug 1797861), is not auto-enabled on first login even if it's been enabled during installation (bug 1796275) and ...
[11:16] <thaurwylth> ... the pages of the first run wizard are not read properly (bug 1797868) '
[11:22] <Sveta> thaurwylth: yes if people do not enable screen reader during install then they do not see these bugs
[11:24] <thaurwylth> Sveta, OK!
[11:29] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't clear swap
[11:29] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't stop kdenlive process
[11:34] <EriC^> RonaldsMazitis: what have you tried til now?
[11:34] <ksdnn> does ubuntu have proton?
[11:36] <blackflow> ksdnn: the steam thing?
[11:36] <ksdnn> yes
[11:36] <SwedeMike> blackflow: if you go to google and type "ubuntu proton" you get several hits. One of them that seems relevant is https://askubuntu.com/questions/1073514/how-do-i-get-proton-on-steam-to-work
[11:36] <blackflow> ksdnn: yes, it's part of the Steam itself.
[11:36] <blackflow> SwedeMike: no.
[11:39] <RonaldsMazitis> EriC^: sudo swapoff -a && swapon -a
[11:39] <EriC^> RonaldsMazitis: how did you try killing the kdenlive?
[11:40] <RonaldsMazitis> htop
[11:40] <RonaldsMazitis> f4
[11:40] <RonaldsMazitis> f9
[11:40] <RonaldsMazitis> sigkill
[11:40] <EriC^> RonaldsMazitis: try ps aux | grep kdenlive then use "kill -9 <pid here>
[11:40] <EriC^> ah
[11:40] <SwedeMike> blackflow: sorry, I directed that to the wrong person. It was meant for ksdnn
[11:41] <SwedeMike> ksdnn: if you go to google and type "ubuntu proton" you get several hits. One of them that seems relevant is https://askubuntu.com/questions/1073514/how-do-i-get-proton-on-steam-to-work
[11:41] <blackflow> SwedeMike: still no. it's part of regular Steam installation. Just have to enable it in the settings.
[11:41] <RonaldsMazitis> kill-9: command not found
[11:41] <SwedeMike> blackflow: yes, but if he wants to know how to use this on ubuntu it shows that you install steam on ubunut and then you get proton, as you say.
[11:43] <blackflow> SwedeMike: right, but it's part of Steam itself, so googling for it and running into who knows what kind of ill advice, is not needed. Just flipt he switch in the Steam settings and there it is ;)
[11:44] <blackflow> and it also runs very nice. aready playing Wolfenstein II, DooM, will try a few other games too. just enable it for all titles, not only fully tested ones.
[11:44] <indigo945> Good morning! I have yesterday started a long-running task on a server with no tmux available, but unfortunately lost my ssh connection. The task is waiting for input from stdin, is there any way I can send to it?
[11:45] <SwedeMike> indigo945: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/31824/how-to-attach-terminal-to-detached-process might show some ways?
[11:48] <indigo945> SwedeMike: tyvm! I'll try that right away.
[12:09] <gunix> what are the main differences between ubuntu 18.04 and 18.10?
[12:29] <tomreyn> gunix: check the release notes, they should say
[12:29] <tomreyn> !releasenotes
[12:34] <Woodpecker> Hey Im developing an application. I create a file that will be used by another application, wondering where in the linux heirarchy I ought to store it
[12:35] <Woodpecker> basically it is a list, with the delimeter being linebreaks.
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> Woodpecker: this is ubuntu support, is your issue related?
[12:35] <Woodpecker> lotuspsychje: Im developing this in ubuntu, and for ubuntu, and it will be installed on ubuntu. I just want to follow their way of doing things.
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> Woodpecker: allright, maybe describe your details to the channel, volunteers might think along
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> Woodpecker: perhaps also see #ubuntu-devel
[12:37] <Woodpecker> that might be useful.
[12:38] <ksdnn> Woodpecker: /usr/share/<yourapp>/
[12:39] <Woodpecker> ksdnn:That was what I was thinking, but I thought perhaps /var/spool/<yourapp>
[12:41] <gunix> tomreyn: yea, got it, ty
[12:41] <Woodpecker> gunix: lol, you got an @linux.com email address too eh?
[12:47] <blackflow> Woodpecker: I'd prefer dynamically generated data under /var somewhere, and static packaged data under /usr/share/
[12:47] <blackflow> consider even /run if it needn't survive reboot
[12:48] <Woodpecker> blackflow: I guess it is going in var then.
[12:48] <Woodpecker> thanks.
[12:54] <ubuntutr> hi
[12:55] <ubuntutr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kNKM2H7WJN/
[12:56] <ubuntutr> i look there: https://yarnpkg.com/lang/en/docs/install/#debian-nightly
[13:00] <ubuntutr> apt-transport-https
[13:00] <ubuntutr> ok
[13:00] <ubuntutr> fixed
[13:09] <gunix> Woodpecker: yes, i did. however, how did you know ?
[13:12] <Woodpecker> gunix: Irc cloud just lists it by default. Its interesting just because I remember paying something like 250 smackaroons to get one of these. Still love it on the resume. I was working on getting an @ubuntu extension, but I never pushed through with it. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/W6IN3v8y/IRC_Cloud.png
[13:13] <gunix> Woodpecker: you get one if you donate 250 euros to the linux foundation, yes. it's something i planned to do for a long time, considering i have a great career because of the community behind linux. it was one way to try to give something back. the linux foundation also has really nice projects that deserve all the help in the world
[13:19] <blackflow> it's in your /whois too
[13:19] <marina_2> hola
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:26] <xzijoq> hi
[14:31] <CyberGhost78> hi xzijoq
[14:33] <xzijoq> oh hi i thought i was in the wrong place for chat, i just started this
[14:33] <Cybergrad> This is support chat.
[14:33] <CyberGhost78> go to: ubuntu-offtopic
[14:33] <xzijoq> by /join
[14:33] <CyberGhost78> oops #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:34] <CyberGhost78> yeah /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:34] <xzijoq> thanx see ya
[14:36] <Cybergrad> I unintentionally unassigned an SRU fix last night. What persons have the authority to reassign it? I can't seem to.
[14:38] <Cybergrad> It would also help if someone with the authority could change the tag to verification-failed-cosmic. I don't know how.
[14:41] <tomreyn> Cybergrad: maybe ask in #ubuntu-bugs
[14:42] <Cybergrad> @tomreyn Thanks.
[14:42] <tomreyn> also be sure to post the bug #
[14:42] <Cybergrad> I will.
[15:10] <genady> good
[15:15] <gorgonauta> :)
[15:15] <janat08> how to install packages from disco while on cosmic
[15:17] <ksdnn> why is ubuntu install cd 1.6 GB?
[15:17] <lian> nihao
[15:18] <lian> yourenma
[15:18] <ksdnn> that's pretty large
[15:18] <OerHeks> janat, not.
[15:18] <janat08> ksdnn: i'd much rather it be bigger
[15:18] <vompatti> Hi. Has this landed in 4.14.0-55 kernel? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1813873
[15:18] <lian> nimen
[15:18] <vompatti> if so, its still causing problems: https://github.com/junegunn/fzf/issues/1486
[15:19] <janat08> is there a way to force install packages from next ubuntu version disco?
[15:19] <OerHeks> vompatti, so wait for the fix to reach updates?
[15:19] <OerHeks> janat08, we do not support that.
[15:20] <OerHeks> build the package yourself perhaps?
[15:20] <janat08> OerHeks: lol i tried, i then have to resolve dependencies and stuff
[15:21] <vompatti> OerHeks: I mean, if that fix is in 4.15.0-45, there is still regression happening (I hope I'm using the right terms here). If the fix is not in that build then I'll just have to wait for updates
[15:22] <thanzex> Hi there! Everything works fine on my 18.04.1 LTS except tty, if i try to login on any tty as soon as i enter the username it "auto-enters" a blank passwords and then starts a loop of Login Incorrect without me touching anything. Any idea?
[15:22] <Woodpecker> Question: In ubuntu, for an application, where would you store a license file that a statically linked library depends upon, and should not be shared between users?
[15:23] <ryuo> Woodpecker: the user's home directory?
[15:23] <Woodpecker> ryuo: really? not in /usr?
[15:24] <Woodpecker> i wouldnt want it in the home directory in case a user tries to delete it.
[15:24] <ryuo> Woodpecker: why not? /usr is only for shared files, and if it's run by that user, there's nowhere else you can write to really.
[15:24] <Woodpecker> ryuo: what about /usr/local?
[15:25] <ryuo> same problem.
[15:25] <Woodpecker> really... hrmmmm
[15:25] <ryuo> /usr/local is just reserved for software not originating from the distribution.
[15:25] <Woodpecker> / Tertiary hierarchy for local data, specific to this host. Typically has further subdirectories, e.g., bin, lib, share.[9]
[15:26] <ryuo> (or rather not tracked by the package manager)
[15:26] <Woodpecker> hmmm then am I misinterpreting host as user?
[15:26] <ryuo> Woodpecker: yes. the host is system level.
[15:26] <ryuo> Woodpecker: this license file is per user.
[15:26] <Woodpecker> oh, okay.
[15:27] <ryuo> Woodpecker: the best place unless you want to invest in a lot of hacks to make it work at the system level...
[15:27] <ryuo> Woodpecker: is the user's home directory somewhere.
[15:27] <Woodpecker> ryuo: so if I put it into home, will the file contents be private to everyone save root?
[15:27] <ryuo> Woodpecker: in general, yes, but it depends on the system configuration.
[15:27] <ryuo> Woodpecker: for best results, set permissioons to 0600
[15:28] <Woodpecker> ryuo: or would you suggest a means of encrypting the license file and having the binary take a password
[15:28] <ryuo> Woodpecker: up to you. i don't even know what you are trying to accomplish.
[15:28] <Woodpecker> ryuo: basically I use an expensive peace of software in my system that depends on a license key. I would be contractually in big doo doo
[15:29] <Woodpecker> if that license key somehow made its way onto the web.
[15:30] <ryuo> Woodpecker: i see. well, your options are dictated by how the license is provided to this software.
[15:32] <ryuo> Woodpecker: surprised they don't just use a hardware dongle then... heh
[15:32] <Woodpecker> ryuo: mmmmm
[15:32] <Woodpecker> ryuo: its provided via a license file, and that either for commandline or api.
[15:33] <OerHeks> just thinking, why not store a license in the keyring?
[15:33] <Woodpecker> OerHeks: If I could do that, I would.
[15:34] <aldcor> Hello! When i try to change repository it gives me this error but after closing application it says may software is up do to date. Similar error is shown in terminal. https://pastebin.com/Q3QiNRaU
[15:34] <Woodpecker> OerHeks: its basically just a string of characters, and needs to be loaded in as a file. I program in Qt/c++ so perhaps thats the best way
[15:35] <ryuo> Woodpecker: so, you can't feed it the raw data instead?
[15:35] <OerHeks> aldcor, did you even check the ppa page if there are packages available for your version?
[15:35] <aldcor> I used steps of one forum article but it didnt help. I think changing repositories via terminal would be better. But which exatcly i should use?
[15:36] <ryuo> Woodpecker: if it takes a filename, then you have to use a file. the best you can do then is to make it readable only by your user.
[15:36] <Woodpecker> ryuo: I'd have to look closer, but I think I would have to toss the file into cache first before deleting it.
[15:36] <ryuo> Woodpecker: and/or use home directory encryption.
[15:36] <OerHeks> aldor look at https://launchpad.net/~gilir/+archive/ubuntu/ppa  ....
[15:36] <ryuo> Woodpecker: if single user system, FDE would work better.
[15:36] <aldcor> OerHeks, i did not. I was not aware of that
[15:37] <ryuo> Woodpecker: But, encrypting it on disk isn't practical if you can't supply the license data through a stream API of sorts.
[15:37] <Woodpecker> performance is more important. I am just being precautious. I want to build this into a snap so I can use this on other machines
[15:37] <OerHeks> aldcor,  same for https://launchpad.net/~pipelight/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[15:39] <guest_> ChuckyCheese
[15:39] <aldcor> OerHeks,  i get this when trying to add this rep. https://pastebin.com/CUeiHcUQ
[15:40] <OerHeks> please use paste.ubuntu.com., that pastebin does weird
[15:40] <OerHeks> + stuff
[15:42] <OerHeks> maybe you can figure it our yourself, check the ppa launchpad page
[15:42] <aldcor> generally it is bad idea to add unstable packages right?
[15:43] <aldcor> the one you pasted - gilir unstable. Do you use it yourself?
[15:43] <OerHeks> aldcor, i am on bionic, so no
[15:43] <sec__> Lula livre! Sou da resistência, contra a ditadura!
[15:43] <ksdnn> aldcor: this ppa is really old
[15:43] <OerHeks> ksdnn, i just told him, and how to check if it is still avtive
[15:44] <tomreyn> sec__: please stop spamming this channel.
[15:46] <aldcor> well, pieplight packaged are from 2015 and older. Probably that's why they are disabled by default
[15:47] <OerHeks> with html5, one does not need pipelight anymore
[15:47] <OerHeks> that NPAPI plugin is EOL
[15:48] <qwebirc23655> hello
[15:49] <ubuntutr> hello
[15:49] <qwebirc23655> can you help me
[15:49] <qwebirc23655> can you help me
[15:49] <aldcor> why sources.list have different reps compared to software manager application?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> ask your question, qwebirc23655
[15:50] <OerHeks> aldcor, you tell us, you addeed sources that are not valid
[15:50] <OerHeks> c/added
[15:50] <qwebirc23655> when i try to install python-pip
[15:50] <qwebirc23655> it say something missing
[15:50] <ubuntutr> what is error ?
[15:51] <aldcor> i even had no idea.. i guess i was following some thread about netflix or smth last week
[15:51] <qwebirc23655> failed
[15:51] <qwebirc23655> failed to get
[15:51] <BluesKaj> qwebirc23655, missing what, a dependency?
[15:51] <ubuntutr> sudo apt update
[15:52] <ubuntutr> qwebirc23655: sudo apt update
[15:52] <qwebirc23655> how do i send image
[15:52] <ubuntutr> sudo apt install python3-pip
[15:52] <ubuntutr> try this command
[15:52] <OerHeks> !paste | qwebircnumber
[15:52] <tomreyn> qwebirc23655: use imgur.com, but if you can use the temrinal to create textual output and post that to paste.ubuntu.com it may be easier.
[15:52] <Apachez> how rude
[15:53] <qwebirc23655> i never use imgur, ill try it later, i will try this command first apt install python3-pip
[15:53] <ubuntutr> use all error code http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:54] <qwebirc23655> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WD3YRpyVvT/
[15:55] <ubuntutr> apt-get update
[15:56] <qwebirc23655> if i do apt-get update
[15:56] <ksdnn> ubuntu is stupid, it is shipped with gnome, but not with the dconf editor
[15:56] <qwebirc23655> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/swDxT4Tw9z/
[15:57] <OerHeks> ksdnn, silly, you can install it yourself
[15:57] <ksdnn> (by default)
[15:57] <OerHeks> ksdnn, why do you complain about the size of the iso, while you miss packages?
[15:58] <qwebirc23655> hello?
[15:58] <ksdnn> because it is too big but still missing important stuff
[15:59] <qwebirc23655> halo?
[16:00] <ubuntutr> ksdnn: what is your problem?
[16:00] <ubuntutr> fuck you!
[16:00] <OerHeks> ubuntutr, please keep this channel family friendly, thanks
[16:00] <qwebirc23655> can someone help me?
[16:00] <ubuntutr> "ksdnn> ubuntu is stupid,"
[16:01] <ubuntutr> OerHeks ?
[16:01] <ubuntutr> what is this
[16:01] <ubuntutr> ksdnn he has problem with her mother
[16:01] <ksdnn> just imagine windows 10 dropping regedit or stopping supporting shortcuts like ubuntu did
[16:02] <tomreyn> ksdnn: please move over to #ubuntu-discuss for discussion, this channel is limited to support only. thanks!
[16:02] <aldcor> just came back to apolagize to my dumb questions.. i just could not think straight anymore because i was so angry i couldnot uncheck or remove reps (because i juse i3). I switched to wayland, deleted all the wierd reps and left with ubuntu bionic main and everything is now fine. System is up to date.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> !id | qwebirc23655
[16:03] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: unfortunately too late, they're gone
[16:03]  * tomreyn just wanted to respond as well
[16:04] <BluesKaj> yeah, i noticed tomreyn , missed it when I was looking up his IP/location
[16:04] <tomreyn> ubuntutr: please calm down, and watch your language.
[16:04] <ubuntutr> ok
[16:04] <ubuntutr> i dont have problem anyone
[16:05] <ubuntutr> thanks
[16:06] <blackflow> aldcor: you switched to sway?
[16:07] <aldcor> blackflow, u mean like pussycatdoll song?
[16:08] <blackflow> aldcor: no I mean as the  wayland compositor for i3. Wayland is a protocol, not a program. so I was wondering if you switched to Sway.
[16:09] <aldcor> oh, i did not know about sway. I will check it immediatly!
[16:09] <aldcor> i am glad i havent purged other DE yet.. :) i didnt know i cannt check or uncheck software manager in i3
[16:11] <blackflow> aldcor: not sure what you mean. but i3 is just a WM, there should be no problem with any program running under it, software manager included
[16:11] <sec__> demilitarizacao
[16:12] <aldcor> oh, i misunderstood what sway is.. I thought it's alternative software manager application specifically for i3 :D
[16:13] <aldcor> yes, i was surprised about inability to check or uncheck boxes in soft manager
[16:15] <hggdh> sec__: please be aware that this is a support-only channel. Specifically, no politics. Please stop
[16:17] <aldcor> i will troubleshoot this
[16:17] <aldcor> its not normal that i cannot check or uncheck..
[16:20] <aldcor> blackflow, have you ever had similar problem?
[16:20] <aldcor> error rather
[16:30] <Toxmi> Hi, I've a laptop with Ethernet access to internet. It's fixed IP and not DHCP. I want to share this internet via wifi with my other devices. So I create a access point in nm-applet. But the devices can detect my access point they cant browse internet. I've no idea how to configure the IP/Route the device. Do I need to set manually the client networks as well?
[16:31] <blackflow> aldcor: I don't use the software center so I wouldn't know. sounds as maybe it requires the full gnome DE being present or at least some component of it. Dunno.
[16:31] <tomreyn> if it had worked out, it would have been just what you already did. which ubuntu version is this?
[16:31] <ryuo> Toxmi: depends. if you only have that one address and not a network assigned to you, then you need to use NAT with a private network allocation.
[16:32] <Toxmi> ryuo: I just have an ethernet, and with that ethernet I just have an IP address (no DHCP) with specific IP and fixed gateway/DNS.
[16:32] <tomreyn> Toxmi: ^ what i wrote above was to you.
[16:33] <bb> !list
[16:33] <Toxmi> tomreyn: 18.04. Sorry for the miss
[16:33] <bb> list!
[16:33] <tomreyn> bb: can we help you?
[16:33] <tomreyn> Toxmi: no that's fine, my bad for not adressing you.
[16:34] <tacomaster> I was wondering. I have an intel 530 intagrated graphics ( I know not great) but I am playing some of the smae games and they look way worse in ubuntu than they did under windows. Is there a better driver to use for ubuntu 18.04 or is it just the state of the intel driver?
[16:34] <tomreyn> Toxmi: i was thinking it'd work out of the box in 18.04, apparently i was wrong.
[16:35] <Toxmi> So I have to just purchase a router and there is no way. I'm novice in network and I thought it might be possible to share my access of internet with other devies...just like android thether
[16:35] <ryuo> Toxmi: you can, but it requires an understanding of networking... hm.
[16:36] <aldcor> blackflow, well the thing is slowly move out of DE (i3 now) and terminal is becoming my friend more and more but the weird thing is that sources.list have different links compared to software manager application so i was confused and 'forced' to go back to normal DE.
[16:36] <Toxmi> Now, I'm asking something theoretical, when I've a fixed IP on the network and no DHCP. So my laptop access the internet via manual configuration. Is it possible to share this access with other devices using wifi
[16:36] <ryuo> Toxmi: which flavor of ubuntu are you using?
[16:37] <Toxmi> ryuo: ha, so it will get complicated. I just understand it in level of what is IP and what is Gatway and What is DNS :)
[16:37] <Toxmi> ryuo: gnome, default
[16:37] <Toxmi> actually I'm now using i3wm
[16:38] <ryuo> Toxmi: i see. network manager might have a method of sharing an internet connection. this concept is what the young call "hotspots".
[16:39] <ryuo> https://askubuntu.com/questions/490950/create-wifi-hotspot-on-ubuntu
[16:39] <ryuo> Toxmi: ^
[16:39] <Toxmi> ryuo: yeah, excatly. When I setup one, I select Access Point which I think do the job
[16:39] <Toxmi> oh thanks
[16:40] <ryuo> Toxmi: though honestly it's more of a convenience for beginners. i don't consider it an ideal solution.
[16:40] <Toxmi> ryuo: which tools do you recommend?
[16:40] <Toxmi> manual nmcli?
[16:41] <ryuo> Toxmi: anything that's a dedicated solution.
[16:41] <ryuo> Toxmi: using a regular PC to solve a networking problem isn't ideal.
[16:41] <Toxmi> ryuo: yeah. A router do the job
[16:41] <ryuo> They can do it, but they're not usually ideal for it, especially if they go to sleep.
[16:42] <Toxmi> ryuo: so which dedicated solution do you offer?
[16:43] <ryuo> Toxmi: depends on your budget, but anything compatible with openwrt is a decent choice. the pros all seem to prefer pfsense but i don't see the appeal myself.
[16:43] <Toxmi> Just to make sure (I'll search and learn the stuff), the idea to share my manually configured ethernet internet via wifi is completely possible and can be done through hotspot/...
[16:43] <tomreyn> Toxmi: having a dedicated, low power, simple software, router can be a better approahc than internet connection sharing / operating an AP on your desktop, yes.
[16:43] <Toxmi> BTW, android do it pretty hassle free
[16:44] <Toxmi> I just wanted to do it on the software since I thought it's as easy as sharing internet on my mobile (thether). But I can purchase a router and done. Thanks
[16:45] <ryuo> Toxmi: it is, but then it is tied to your PC as a critical networking device.
[16:45] <tomreyn> Toxmi: the approach of sharing your ethernet connection via a wireless AP is technically feasable, as long as your wireless device can operate in AP mode (which apparently, based on what you said so far, it can), yes.
[16:51] <Ewen-g> hello world
[16:51] <ubuntutr> hello Ewen-g
[16:52] <Ewen-g> hi ubuntutr! I'm new on IRC but started using Ubuntu 2 years ago
[16:52] <ubuntutr> nice..
[16:52] <ubuntutr> im old in IRC
[16:52] <ubuntutr> :)
[16:52] <Ewen-g> ok
[16:53] <ubuntutr> how old are u
[16:53] <Ewen-g> 24
[16:53] <ubuntutr> also ubuntu nice
[16:53] <ubuntutr> im 31
[16:53] <genady> hi
[16:53] <ubuntutr> hi genpaku
[16:53] <ubuntutr> genady
[16:53] <Ewen-g> hello genady
[16:54] <genady> hello )
[16:54] <Ewen-g> btw, what irc client do u use?
[16:56] <bb_> !list
[16:56] <dubiuk> that was more information than necessary ol' botty ol' boi
[17:05] <core7> is there a way to go back to the original ubuntu installation - perhaps to a particular date ?
[17:05] <OerHeks> core7, no, there is no roll back
[17:06] <ryuo> core7: sure. you got a time machine handy? :D
[17:07] <core7> where is a good place to get ec2 help?
[17:14] <Ewen-g> is ubottu really a bot?
[17:14] <ryuo> ubottu: are you a bot?
[17:15] <Ewen-g> ok, thanks
[17:24] <Spock_ncc1701> hi, is there a way to add an openvpn account to networkManager?
[17:24] <TJ-> !info network-manager-openvpb-gnome | Spock_ncc1701
[17:25] <TJ-> grrr
[17:25] <TJ-> !info network-manager-openvpn-gnome | Spock_ncc1701
[17:26] <Spock_ncc1701> tnx
[17:28] <xenial-user2> ARarrArRr! Ye Dogz!
[17:30] <xenial-user2> AMD 4200 HD ... want Catalyst 13.1 legacy ... which UBUNTU ver pls!?
[17:30] <gunix> is it possible to achieve this level of transparency on ubuntu 18.10: https://cn.opendesktop.org/img//hive/content-pre1/111035-1.jpg
[17:30] <gunix> ?
[17:30] <gunix> with gnome3
[17:31] <xenial-user2> "iiiiits Ubuntu" (to the tune of It's Amore
[17:31] <OerHeks> xenial-user2, maybe 14.04 can use the old catalist, nowadays ATI cards use the openradeon driver
[17:31] <OerHeks> and maybe 4200 is too old for that, dunno
[17:31] <hggdh> xenial-user2: please keep on-topic
[17:31] <xenial-user2> TY OH
[17:31] <xenial-user2> was using wheezy
[17:31] <SlidingHorn> xenial-user2: however, 14.04 loses support in April.
[17:33] <xenial-user2> ty !
[17:38] <aldcor> blackflow, is sway worth it? From what i understand i have to install dependencies manually. I have never done it and i fear it's gonna be time consuming.
[17:48] <core7> I've an ubuntu instance where ubuntu is installed on /dev/sda1 - 8GB - and there is another 200GB SSD on /dev/sda -> when I install new software, I am guessing it goes into sda1 ? Is 8GB enough for ubuntu to install and work for a few years?
[17:48] <tomreyn> core7: if there is an 8 GB partition on sda1, then this is part of the 200 GB SSD at /dev/sda
[17:49] <TJ-> core7: it'd be tight, even for a 'server' install
[17:49] <Ewen-g> if you install a lot of softwares I'm not sure it's enough
[17:50] <core7> I am looking at a aws ec2 instance called c5d.2xlarge
[17:50] <Ewen-g> core7: if you don't install anything and put your files not on /dev/sda1, why not…
[17:50] <core7> And it has that disk space
[17:50] <core7> I am wondering if I need more than the provided 8GB for things
[17:51] <OerHeks> standard ubuntu takes 10 gb with me
[17:51] <genady> minimum 12 gb
[17:51] <genady> better 17 gb
[17:52] <tomreyn> core7: it is normal to start small, and grow if needed. you can add a separate virtual storage and store application data there or make it a mount and move e.g. /var there, or you can grow the existing / file system and (if needed) underlying partition and virtual storage)
[17:52] <core7> They have two mounts /dev/sda1 and /dev/ssd -> Perhaps they are installing ubuntu on ssd instead of the 8GB - Volume type of 8GB Partition is "Root"
[17:53] <core7> tomreyn: there is a 200GB SSD on that instance, what I am wondering is where Ubuntu is actually installed
[17:53] <tomreyn> "mount" should tell
[17:53] <core7> I dont have the machine running
[17:53] <core7> just configuring things - so that someone else can run it
[17:54] <core7> I think the /dev/sda1 is the machine image I selected earlier
[17:54] <usr13> cat /etc/fstab
[17:54] <core7> and it is perhaps used to install on the /dev/ssd
[17:54] <usr13> df
[17:54] <blackflow> aldcor: Dunno, I'm not into wayland at all, given that I need nvidia proprietary drivers.
[17:54] <core7> usr13: I am on aws website. Can't spin the machine yet
[17:57] <TJ-> core7: I suspect the device names are /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdd ( not /dev/ssd) - see https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/device_naming.html
[18:01] <core7> TJ-: what is "Root" there ? Is that where ubuntu is installed?
[18:02] <TJ-> core7: yes, the 'root file-system' - the file-system mounted at /
[18:02] <core7> TJ-: so if that is 8GB - isn't that trouble?
[18:03] <TJ-> core7: you can use additional space on the other device(s) to create additional file-systems and mount them. For example many systems will have a separate file-system for /var/ and /home/ since those 2 tend to expand
[18:04] <core7> TJ-: I am sure they already configure it that way - so that the /var and home are in /dev/nvme0n1? I replaced that with /dev/ssd before.
[18:04] <core7> but still 8GB looked low to me for root
[18:04] <TJ-> core7: I'd suspect making /dev/sdd an LVM device would be most flexible, then you could add logical volumes (LVs) for /var/ (e.g. 8GB) and /home/ (e.g. 20GB) and add those to /etc/fstab as mountpoints. You can extend LVs at any time as long as the LVM VG has free space remaining
[18:07] <core7> TJ-: I do hope they configure it correctly and then ship - otherwise I will have to provision/modify 5 different machines
[18:09] <tomreyn> there is not "correct" there, there are different scenarios and use cases.
[18:10] <tomreyn> ich würde stattdessen inzwischen lieber kleine ssd's bestellen
[18:11] <tomreyn> speichermedien auf die man sich nicht wenigstens für ne weile verlassen kann nerven am ende doch nur...
[18:12] <SlidingHorn> tomreyn: wrong channel?
[18:13] <SimonNL> looks like it
[18:13] <Ewen-g> tomreyn: sprichst du Englisch?
[18:13] <OerHeks> unser Tom ist international tätig
[18:14] <tomreyn> oops, sorry, wrong channel indeed ;)
[18:27] <lowkeycoat1> kind of an off question for this group but, if i were to format a drive with the intention of putting just windows on it does it have to be formatted to ntsf first? or will the installer do it auto?
[18:28] <OerHeks> lowkeycoat1, windows10 likes GPT and exfat, i would zero the drive and start the install
[18:28] <OerHeks> or just zero the 1st few mb's to clear MBR/GPT
[18:31] <lowkeycoat1> the reason i ask is i use the drives as an os but when i hand them to some one else, they attempt windows and after install it prompts for grub recovery
[18:38] <conr> how can i change if i have hibernation mode installed?
[18:38] <conr> *check
[18:42] <ducasse> lowkeycoat1: do as OerHeks suggests and wipe out the beginning of the drive, that should remove any trace of grub
[18:42] <cryptodan_mobile> Windows 10 also loves the dos partitioning table
[18:42] <Richard_Cavell> This might be a religious question, but is there a computer that is considered perfect for coding in C/C++ using Ubuntu?
[18:42] <Younder> Is there a simple way to get the 32 bit graphics libraries required by steam without having to resort to breaking the package system?
[18:43] <cryptodan_mobile> Itll only use gpt if efi is detected
[18:43] <ryuo> Richard_Cavell: more like a subjective question.
[18:43] <Younder> I ma talking about the NVIDIA drives
[18:46] <Richard_Cavell> ryuo, Yes.  But I want the computer for a specific purpose.  Presently I'm thinking Dell XPS 15 with Ubuntu in a VM.
[18:46] <Younder> It used to be taht you vould add a :i36 extension, but that doesn't work in the latest wersion
[18:46] <ryuo> Richard_Cavell: not recommended. it may be one of the XPS with coil whine.
[18:47] <Younder> ryuo, coild whine?
[18:48] <OerHeks> does one need nvidia drivers in a VM?
[18:48] <ryuo> Younder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGPBzzxDFfE
[18:50] <ryuo> Younder: my preference is generally the heavier laptops, but some lighter models do have a good feature set. i just think you usually sacrifice too much.
[18:51] <Younder> ryuo, I use stationary machines. I can customize them and make them more powerful. Altso they have much better screens and better keyboards.
[18:51] <mra90> ryuo: you showed us laptop footage with windows on it...what a blasphemy
[18:52] <ryuo> mra90: nah, more like Linux with a windows theme. :D
[18:53] <Younder> In these vitual machine days all sorts of bastards are gonna show their ugly face.
[18:54] <mra90> ;D
[18:55]  * mra90 wonders why would anybody dress linux in windows suit?
[18:58] <likemindead> Could anyone point me to a good tutorial for playing arcade games on Ubuntu?
[18:59] <diego70> hi
[18:59]  * likemindead waves
[18:59] <diego70> someone speak spanish??
[18:59] <SlidingHorn> !es | diego70
[19:00] <diego70> gracias
[19:00] <SlidingHorn> likemindead: that's not really an "ubuntu support" question - You might have better luck in #ubuntu-offtopic (?) :)
[19:00] <likemindead> Okay.
[19:01] <likemindead> The #gamingonlinux folks are helping. :D
[19:01] <diego70> hi
[19:02] <diego70> how are you
[19:02] <diego70> were you come
[19:02] <diego70> ???
[19:02] <barjocore> xdcc list
[19:02] <SlidingHorn> diego70: This channel is only for support questions - If you'd like to chat, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:04] <Sheilong> The installer of lubuntu doesn't open. I burn an usb disk using usb-creator-gtk. I was able to run any lubuntu program after booted it, however the installar was the only one that I wasn't opening.
[19:06] <SlidingHorn> Sheilong: you might be able to get an answer here, but you might also want to try #lubuntu for a group that's more familiar with that particular flavor
[19:07] <Sheilong> I am using ubuntu on my main machine.
[19:07] <diego70> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:08] <diego70> hi
[19:08] <SlidingHorn> diego70: you forgot the /
[19:09] <diego70> hi
[19:10] <tomreyn> Sheilong: if the installer application fails to start, it may be due to an improperly downloaded or written (to the installer media you then booted from) ISO image
[19:10] <Younder> Isn't a ISO image CRC checked?
[19:11] <Sheilong> not really
[19:11] <tomreyn> Younder: by what?
[19:11] <tomreyn> !md5 | Sheilong
[19:11] <Younder> Even if you don't the the sha256 compare which you must do manual.
[19:12] <Younder> The manual step causes people to get lazy and drop it, it should be automatic.
[19:13] <tomreyn> Sheilong: personally i use etcher.io for writing the installer storage - it does a verification run after writing.
[19:13] <Sheilong> I am going to check, but look I've just booted it from my laptop which is newer than the machine I was trying to install and guess so, the installer opened on the laptop
[19:15] <kursk> Hello
[19:15] <tomreyn> Sheilong: so this suggests that the computer you want to install on may have some trouble reading the data properly.
[19:16] <tomreyn> Sheilong: you can do a media check from grub menu on the installer
[19:16] <Sheilong> tomreyn: The md5sum seems to match.
[19:16] <Sheilong> Just checked it
[19:16] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[19:17] <tomreyn> the md5sum of what matches hat exactly?
[19:17] <tomreyn> the downloaded ISO file compared to the CHECKSUMS file on the release server?
[19:17] <Sheilong> Yes
[19:19] <evgen_vasilev> Does anyone have laptop with dedicated amd gpu (preferably latest)? Does it work without problems?
[19:19] <tomreyn> so you have two more things you can check. ensure the iso file was written properly (which is most easily done by writing it again, using a utility which can then do a verification run, such as etcher), and the "check this disk for defects" grub menu option.
[19:19] <tomreyn> Sheilong: ^
[19:19] <Sheilong> tomreyn: I got the md5 from here to test, the last one.
[19:19] <Sheilong> The media as well has just been checked
[19:20] <OerHeks> evgen_vasilev, maybe, what gpu do you have?
[19:20] <Sheilong> And it say no erros found
[19:20] <tomreyn> Sheilong: so this leaves us with issues of the computer you are trying to install on reading from the installer storage.
[19:20] <evgen_vasilev> OerHeks: I don't have any but want to buy a laptop
[19:20] <techie1980> evgen_vasilev,  I do not. it's why I signed on here, and was trying to go through one more iteration of the nvidia driver before asking for help with login loops or weird resolution problems
[19:21] <Sheilong> tomreyn: I will attemp a different usb port on that machine
[19:22] <OerHeks> these are supported by the amdgpu / pro driver https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-prorad-lin-amdgpupro
[19:23] <evgen_vasilev> just want someone to tell me "I use laptop of with dedicated amd gpu model <modelname> and everything is fine, I can play games and develop with opengl/opencl"
[19:23] <OerHeks> the issue is your demand for "latest", tell us which one.
[19:23] <OerHeks> and there is a list of certified laptops
[19:24] <OerHeks> https://certification.ubuntu.com/
[19:25] <evgen_vasilev> because it's actually for my friend who never even used linux but will start
[19:25] <evgen_vasilev> OerHeks: latest means that it's a $2k laptop
[19:25] <evgen_vasilev> defenitely not more
[19:25] <OerHeks> my best advise, check it out before buying
[19:26] <evgen_vasilev> OerHeks: I know, but noone will let me install linux, amd drivers, try few games and opengl/opencl tests :)
[19:27] <evgen_vasilev> in laptop store
[19:27] <evgen_vasilev> so I'll buy whatever is confirmed to be working properly
[19:28] <tacomaster> I am trying to figure out why I am getting such bad performance out of the same games that I played on windows but now on linux they are barely playable. I have an intel hd 530.
[19:29] <OerHeks> tacomaster,  native linux game of a wine blob?
[19:29] <tacomaster> native
[19:29] <tacomaster> the game is crusader kings 2
[19:30] <tacomaster> I get tons of screen tears even with things like youtube I get some screen tearing
[19:30] <tacomaster> Not sure what is going on. I have done a lsmod and I seem to be running the i915 driver
[19:30] <tacomaster> lspci shows the intel 530
[19:31] <Sheilong> even on another usb port it doesn't opened the instaler lol
[19:32] <Sheilong> I will try to install xubuntui
[19:32] <OerHeks> tacomaster, maybe the  -Option "TearFree" "true" and "AccelMethod" "uxa" - in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf   helps tearing.. https://www.pcsuggest.com/fix-linux-screen-tearing/
[19:32] <tacomaster> Its not just tearing it is also over all every bad performance
[19:33] <tacomaster> very* not every
[19:33] <OerHeks> hmm is this a steam game?
[19:33] <tacomaster> Yes
[19:36] <tomreyn> Sheilong: you could inspect dmesg. maybe this computer's USB lacks current or it is just a different version. there are not rarely incompatibilities between USB 2.x and (USB 3.0 or 3.1)
[19:38] <hr304vdohcrst> Hello
[19:40] <Younder> state your question
[19:56] <Sheilong> tomreyn: dmesg show some errors
[19:57] <tomreyn> Sheilong: this fact alone is a good start, but not getting us much further without more context. you could post these errors to a pastebin.
[19:57] <tomreyn> !paste | Sheilong
[20:03] <marcodiego> will it ever be possible to have snapd and use snaps without the ~/snap directory? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1575053
[20:05] <OerHeks> i understand that is where the app data is stored per user, where else would you like to store such code?
[20:07] <ioria> Sheilong, what version oflubuntu ?
[20:07] <any> Sheilong: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RywnHphKMK/
[20:08] <marcodiego> OerHeks, I'd like it to be configurable or non visible or use XDG_CONFIG_DIRS
[20:08] <Sheilong> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RywnHphKMK/
[20:09] <Sheilong> ioria: 18.04.1
[20:09] <Sheilong> lts
[20:09] <ioria> Sheilong, and what's the problem ?
[20:11] <tomreyn> Sheilong: do you run a museum?
[20:11] <ioria> lol
[20:12] <Sheilong> tomreyn:  lol
[20:12] <Sheilong> Its my dads computer lol
[20:12] <tomreyn> if you would like to convert eletrical eneergy into something useful then please do buy new hardware
[20:13] <ryuo> tomreyn: why? how old is it?
[20:13] <tomreyn> it's a SIS computer with floppy drives
[20:13] <ioria> Sheilong, cat /proc/cpuinfo | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:13] <OerHeks> marcodiego, i would think it should be stored in ~/.Config
[20:14] <OerHeks> but those discussions are still going, AFAIK
[20:14] <marcodiego> OerHeks, I don't disagree. The problem is creating a directory in my $HOME is bad
[20:14] <marcodiego> OerHeks, do you know if there is any inclination to ever fix this?
[20:15] <OerHeks> i read somewhere that a *.hidden file can fix this, but those were old posts
[20:15] <marcodiego> the last positions seems to be "We will do better here for sure." from Gustavo Niemeyer. But that don't says much
[20:17] <ioria> Sheilong, just paste the url you got
[20:17] <tomreyn> ioria: it'll be a p4
[20:17] <ioria> tomreyn, then should work
[20:18] <tomreyn> well, yes, i t runs. just, does it make sense?
[20:19] <ioria> tomreyn, interesting question ... depends .... :þ
[20:19] <OerHeks> good ol SiS .. and Geode ???
[20:21] <ioria> but maybe Sheilong changed his mind
[20:23] <ioria> ok, Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
[20:36] <Sheilong> I might a dvd to try install it
[20:36] <Sheilong> buy
[20:37] <OerHeks> mini iso, text based installer
[20:37] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:38] <Sheilong> ioria: http://termbin.com/wuec
[20:39] <ioria> Sheilong,and what's the problem when you try to install ?
[20:39] <Sheilong> ioria: The installer doesn't open on that machine
[20:40] <Sheilong> s/open/launch
[20:40] <ioria> Sheilong,  from the live session or from the Main menu ?
[20:42] <Sheilong> ioria:  Both
[20:42] <Sheilong> ioria: I believe it is something related with the current in usb ports as tomreyn pointed out.
[20:42] <ioria> Sheilong, ok... but you can boot the live session right ?
[20:43] <Sheilong> I am downloading the alternated version of lubuntu to see whether I can install it from a CD instead
[20:43] <Sheilong> ioria: Yes
[20:43] <jmw> I'm unable to debug an apt problem: trying to install python-boto and getting unmet dependencies, but they seem non-sensical. "Depends: python-requests but it is not going to be installed" - well it's already installed. "Depends: python:any (< 2.8)" - ok have regular python 2.7
[20:43] <ioria> Sheilong,  run    '   ubiquity   '   from the terminal
[20:44] <Sheilong> ioria:  I tried it already
[20:44] <TJ-> Sheilong: it's likely there is not sufficient RAM for the live OS to function, and some applications are overcommitting too much
[20:44] <Sheilong> it gives erros related to python
[20:44] <ioria> Sheilong,  and ? what errors ?
[20:44] <ioria> ok
[20:45] <ioria> Sheilong,  how did you do the usb media ?
[20:45] <Sheilong> I don't remember now, but they are related to pyhthon I turn off the PC already, I have to go out, but I am gonna try later again. I appreciate your help guys, thanks so much.
[20:45] <Sheilong> ioria: usb-creator-gtk
[20:45] <ioria> Sheilong,  not a good choice
[20:45] <Sheilong> ioria: I booted the usb on my laptop and there it opened without problems
[20:46] <ioria> Sheilong,  ok, lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:47] <compdoc> if you ssh to ubuntu and it says *** System restart required ***, should you restart before installing additonal updates? Or is it ok to run apt?
[20:47] <compdoc> *apt upgrade
[20:47] <ioria> Sheilong,  a video driver issue, i guess
[20:47] <TJ-> compdoc: it's fine to upgrade packages prior to a restart
[20:48] <compdoc> thanks
[20:48] <TJ-> compdoc: that flag is usually set when either kernels, systemd or libc need upgrading
[20:48] <TJ-> compdoc: almost everything else can just be restarted
[20:51] <TJ-> Sheilong: when you get chance check the memory usage using 'free' on the affected PC, I think you'll find it hasn't sufficient free+swap since it is using 50% of RAM (770MB) for zram-backed swap
[20:53] <ioria> TJ-, probably, right
[20:53] <TJ-> ioria: I'd guess a workaround would be make a real (temproary) swap partition on the fatast device, and drop the zram backed swap
[20:53] <TJ-> fatast? fastest!
[20:54] <Sheilong> ioria: I will try it later. I am not in home anymore.
[20:54] <ioria> TJ-,  yeah, i asked for cpu , but not for /prov/meminfo
[20:55] <ioria> Sheilong,  ok
[21:03] <ryuo> Younder: Still here?
[21:07] <VitoG> hello
[21:07] <Ewen-g> hello VitoG
[21:08] <tonyt> VitoG someone is stealing your mail again
[21:36] <illescasDaniel> (test)
[21:39] <VitoG> fail
[21:42] <IniGit> hi
[21:42] <IniGit> can somebody tell me why I get "Permission denied". Iw ant to test something. I do the following:
[21:42] <IniGit> touch bla2
[21:42] <IniGit> chmod 2070 bla2
[21:42] <IniGit> ./bla2
[21:43] <IniGit> bash: ./bla2: Permission denied
[21:43] <IniGit> gid and uid of the file is my gid and my uid
[21:43] <SlidingHorn> IniGit: for future reference, please use a pastebin for multiple lines.  To answer your question, you set the Owner to not have any permissions on the file.
[21:44] <IniGit> SlidingHorn: oh I know, but wher eis setguid then useful on a file?
[21:44] <IniGit> what would be an example?
[21:46] <SlidingHorn> IniGit: because you're explicitly denying the owner of the file...if you used a different user in that group that was *not* the owner, they'd be able to execute the file
[21:46] <IniGit> ahhh
[21:47] <IniGit> SlidingHorn: thx
[21:47] <SlidingHorn> IniGit: no problem :)
[21:59] <romeolopcam> hi
[21:59] <dcollins> I'm having an issue with getting `apt` to use the MySQL repo. It keeps stating that the repo is not signed even after I've installed the key. Terminal session: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jHkWKv6kkT/
[21:59] <SlidingHorn> romeolopcam: Welcome!  Have an Ubuntu support question we can help you with?
[22:00] <dcollins> Is there any cache that maybe needs to be cleared? apt-get clean hasn't helped.
[22:00] <ryuo> dcollins: did you try apt update again?
[22:00] <dcollins> Same error
[22:00] <OerHeks> dcollins, your issue is artfull, it is EOL, dead
[22:01] <OerHeks> so, mysql might have removed it
[22:02] <ryuo> dcollins: OerHeks is right. you should upgrade to a newer release, preferably LTS if you intend to go so long between upgrades.
[22:02] <Qonnex> hiya people, I know this is not the channel to asks this but I don't know where to look ...
[22:02] <Qonnex> I'm currently looking for someone who can help me, I'm looking for a movie don't know title anymore. Only thing I know is the ending the main character (male) is leaving on a boat (think a ferry) with some friends and he suddenly has coloured his hair.
[22:02] <dcollins> Okay, I'll see about updating to 18.04
[22:02] <qwebirc6008> Hey all, this is my first time visiting the ubuntu IRC
[22:03] <qwebirc6008> I am wondering if anyone in here can help me with something
[22:03] <SlidingHorn> Qonnex: You're correct.  This is not the channel for such a question
[22:03] <SlidingHorn> !ask | qwebirc6008
[22:03] <OerHeks> Qonnex, this is ubuntu support, use !alis to find a movie channel
[22:03] <OerHeks> !alis
[22:04] <Qonnex> !alis
[22:04] <qwebirc6008> I have a late MacBook 2007.  I am under the impression that Ubuntu CAN be installed as the stand alone OS on it.
[22:04] <klemax> Hello when should i be worried about server load for 8 cpus?
[22:05] <SlidingHorn> qwebirc6008: this topic should give you some starter information: https://askubuntu.com/a/931602
[22:05] <qwebirc6008> I tried to install the latest LTS build, and when pressing Option+O to bring up my boot options, I see the main partition, the recovery partion(both on the hard drive) and then three DVD-ROM options
[22:07] <qwebirc6008> That's for the LiveUSB.  I'm trying from DVD
[22:10] <OerHeks> some 2007 models are 32 bit efi ..
[22:10] <qwebirc6008> Mine is 64bit EFI
[22:10] <qwebirc6008> I learned at least that much from the command I ran in terminal
[22:11] <OerHeks> oke, then you are good to install
[22:11] <qwebirc6008> But when I try to install, I get several options to boot from, two of which are the hard drive itself, and three of which, are from the DVD
[22:12] <qwebirc6008> Out of the three dvd options one two of them are EFI and one of them says Windows
[22:12] <qwebirc6008> When I select windows it does nothing, which forces me to restart the computer
[22:13] <qwebirc6008> when i select the first EFI option, it then flashes an error, then takes me to where i can install Ubunutu, but that eventially errors out, and I'm forced to restart.  The second EFI option just causes the computer to booth Mac OS 10.7.5 as usual
[22:13] <vimar> Hi
[22:14] <SlidingHorn> vimar: Hi - Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[22:14] <vimar> Nah, do you have?
[22:16] <qwebirc6008> I don't know if it matters that I used Toast on my 2010 macbook to burn the DVD
[22:16] <qwebirc6008> or if I should have burned it from Windows
[22:16] <dcollins> Yep, Bionic is accepting that MySQL repo just fine. Thanks!
[22:17] <OerHeks> dcollins, have fun!
[22:24] <qwebirc6008> I guess I'll just keep trying different things.  Otherwise, I'll go another route
[22:52] <silasav> rerrtrt
[22:52] <quesker> why does ubuntu put ss in /bin when default iproute2 install puts it in /sbin and other distros leave it there?
[22:52] <silasav> что нового
[22:52] <silasav> ф!!!!!!!!!1
[22:53] <silasav> а!!!
[22:53] <silasav> всем спать !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:53] <OerHeks> !ru
[22:54] <TJ-> quesker: it was a Debian decision. Read the changelog for 20110629-1
[22:55] <TJ-> quesker: "apt-get changelog iproute2"
[22:56] <quesker> thanks.  too bad they don't give an actual reason
[22:57] <TJ-> quesker: right, but that gives you a name and a clue to track it down
[22:57] <quesker> yep
[22:58] <LiliDoTreze> oi
[22:58] <LiliDoTreze> miguxos
[22:59] <aldcor> OerHeks whats up?
[23:00] <LiliDoTreze> oi miguxos
[23:01] <SlidingHorn> LiliDoTreze: do you have an Ubuntu support question?  If so, please ask :)
[23:02] <LiliDoTreze> I love Ubuntu
[23:03] <LiliDoTreze> Ubuntu is the best OS!
[23:03] <silasav> я в чате
[23:03] <LiliDoTreze> я в чате
[23:03] <SlidingHorn> LiliDoTreze: Glad you like it, however, this channel is only for support.  If you'd like to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:03] <silasav> я в чате
[23:04] <silasav> меня видно ответте кто нибудь
[23:04] <aldcor> silasav, english here
[23:04] <LiliDoTreze> poxa
[23:04] <OerHeks> english only, guys
[23:05] <SlidingHorn> !ru > silasav
[23:06] <silasav> а русские есть ФФФФФФФФФ!?
[23:07] <silasav> а РУССКИЕ есть АААААА???????
[23:07] <LiliDoTreze> а РУССКИЕ есть АААААА
[23:08] <aldcor> silasav, zdes netu ruskiji pacani. Ja znaju ruskij jazin nemnoga. Ponimoesh menja?
[23:08] <SlidingHorn> !ops | silasav LiliDoTreze - both trolls
[23:09] <LiliDoTreze> Я говорю по русски
[23:09] <LiliDoTreze> Я хочу секса
[23:09] <silasav> i shoto diolog vedetsj takim sintaksisom
[23:10] <LiliDoTreze> Я хочу секса
[23:10] <OerHeks> Bye!
[23:11] <silasav> lilidotreze кто ты М ИЛИ Ж
[23:11] <DalekSec> silasav, LiliDoTreze: Это не русский канал, пожалуйста, обратитесь за помощью в #ubuntu-ru
[23:12] <silasav> СКОРО ВСЕ БУДЕТ РУССКИМ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:12] <SlidingHorn> DalekSec: they've already been told, and their conversation is off-topic for that channel as well.  They're simply trolls and need removed
[23:13] <DalekSec> I see.
[23:14] <CoinBR> tst
[23:14] <CoinBR> is there anyone here?
[23:14] <LiliDoTreze> Я хочу секса
[23:14] <CoinBR> thanks
[23:15] <OerHeks> :-)
[23:16] <SlidingHorn> CoinBR: we're here - Have an ubuntu issue we can help you with?
[23:19] <CoinBR> SlidingHorn: Sorry. I use ubuntu, but im actually trying to get help on #kakoune. I dont use irc regullary, so i tought it wasnt working. But looks like everyone in that channel are actually away xD sorry
[23:19] <SlidingHorn> CoinBR: no worries
[23:19] <CoinBR> SlidingHorn: I just came here because to test it IRC is working here
[23:19] <CoinBR> SlidingHorn: thank u =)
[23:23] <silasav> с кем попиздить
[23:23] <silasav> ну где все!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????
[23:24] <SlidingHorn> DalekSec: mind coming back for this one?
[23:24] <aldcor> DalekSec, here we go again :/
[23:38] <Sebas> Bonsoir !
[23:46] <FlyingMonk> hey guys
[23:48] <FlyingMonk> had a question  any one very dealt with "ubuntu one" cloud ?
[23:54] <horus125> help, when try to login in tty, enter the username and press enter it doesn't let me write the password, just presses enter again for me and it says login incorrect, I don't even know how to Google it :(
[23:55] <horus125> then it repeats itself for a couple of times and stops
[23:57] <robertparkerx> when I upgrade from 7.2 to 7.3 do I "apt purge" the cores and its packages?