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[02:36] <guiverc> 19.04 [main installed]: xscreensaver is executing on one display only; other screen is untouched & readable.   is this 'new', worthy of exploration?? (may not be new; I commonly turn screen showing screensaver off when I'm not using it)
 It isn't normal, I think I just saw an update come through for that but I haven't tested it yet.
[02:45] <guiverc> okay - it dims both screens; then re-draws one normally as it runs screensaver on other... raise lp bug?  (& which package? - i'm still user-testing it looking for clues)
[02:50] <krytarik> guiverc: Obviously the primary questions are: 1.) Is it the same on other desktop environments?  2.) Is it a regression from a previous version of the affected package?
[02:59] <guiverc> krytarik, i also use xfce (same box) & haven't noticed it there (will logout & test though -thanks) nor on lxqt before)  i believe it's new (but can't be sure how new due to my commonly having that screen turned off).   it's not displaying a static image but it's updating the unblacked screen with new data; htop/glances is updated as is this hexchat window..
[02:59] <guiverc> (i'm disappearing; to switch to xfce & test there)
[03:10] <guiverc> nope, on same box could not replicate in xfce login.
[03:46] <krytarik> guiverc: From a quick web search and given the behavior, it still seems likely that xscreensaver is at fault there though.  Could downgrade the packages you've got manually to the previous version here and test if it's the same with that too: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/5.36-1ubuntu1/+build/12357850
[03:50] <guiverc> will return & look later today (gotta do some gardening now..)  but thanks krytarik 
[04:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL595fc6f48977: Add native file dialog checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL595fc6f48977
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[05:08] <tsimonq2> guiverc: Thanks.
[05:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T154: Fix shortcuts related to Super key] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T154#3625
[05:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLIBFMQTPACKAGING3fa1ce108c40: Fix metadata for trusting executables] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLIBFMQTPACKAGING3fa1ce108c40
[05:23] <tsimonq2> kc2bez: Thank you for your contribution to Lubuntu :D https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libfm-qt/0.14.0-0ubuntu3
[05:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: removed lubuntu-default-settings> Yeah, coz https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/0.54.1
[05:24] <tsimonq2> Look at that arch:all build.
[05:25] <tsimonq2> I might JFDI.
[05:25] <wxl> well you might ping guiverc 
[05:25] <wxl> i left him in the lurch for a long time otherwise it would probably be fixed
[05:25] <tsimonq2> He was having many troubles with it.
[05:25] <tsimonq2> I don't recall having the time available to help him with it, unfortunately. :(
[05:25] <tsimonq2> It's a pretty simple fix.
[05:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS0f8876a4ddc3: Summary: Set folder view sort ascending (LP: #11801210) T165. Set desktop…] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS0f8876a4ddc3
[05:27] <wxl> found it
[05:27] <wxl> about a month old
[05:27] <wxl> sent to you
[05:27] <tsimonq2> Thanmks.
[05:27] <tsimonq2> *Thanks, if I can type.
[05:27] <tsimonq2> I'm sorting through backlog now, even if it involves some nights with little sleep. :)
[05:28] <wxl> you're hitting what's on phab?
[05:28] <tsimonq2> Yeah, and just general stuff too.
[05:28] <tsimonq2> For example, I'm going to start staging Qt 5.12.1 for the archive.
[05:28] <wxl> ok, i'm going through bugs
[05:28] <tsimonq2> Debian is frozen now so that's all us.
[05:28] <tsimonq2> Cool.
[05:29] <tsimonq2> kc2bez: Also, thanks for this contribution :D https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/1.18
[05:29] <wxl> are those the first two
[05:29] <wxl> ??
[05:29] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yeah, I'm totally lost as to what Chris' problem is.
[05:29] <tsimonq2> Those were D54 and D55.
[05:30] <wxl> i mean his first two appearances in the archive
[05:30] <wxl> what was that debian tool?
[05:30] <tsimonq2> Oh, I think he's had a few previously.
[05:30] <tsimonq2> UDD?
[05:30] <wxl> yeah thx
[05:30] <tsimonq2> https://wiki.debian.org/UltimateDebianDatabase
[05:30] <tsimonq2> No problem.
[05:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: HAHAHAHA, so I've had a fix ready to go for the past five MONTHS.
[05:31] <tsimonq2> Jeeeeeez.
[05:31] <wxl> i know
[05:31] <wxl> we're coming back strong though
[05:31] <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS4be7e413ec21967a085946db50d7f4ccc10d7dc1
[05:31] <tsimonq2> Right
[05:32] <tsimonq2> I just need to prepare a local Bionic schroot to ensure this thing builds.
[05:32] <tsimonq2> In the meantime, I'll start Qt 5.12.1.
[05:33] <tsimonq2> wxl: By the way, cool little thing I merged from Debian, debootstrap in Disco+ is now like 10x faster.
[05:33] <tsimonq2> Somebody went and cleaned it all up.
[05:33] <tsimonq2> I'm pretty happy about that, honestly. :)
[05:34] <wxl> wow
[05:34] <tsimonq2> Alright, here's the ticket, it's go time on that: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3627
[05:36] <wxl> packages.maintainer_email would be a good thing to run off of right?
[05:36] <wxl> ubuntu_packages
[05:36] <tsimonq2> No, maintainer_email is the Debian maintainer.
[05:36] <tsimonq2> I'm unsure why it's in the Ubuntu schema in the first place.
[05:37] <wxl> ubuntu_uploaders then?
[05:37] <tsimonq2> Yeah.
[05:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: Off the top of your head do you recall how to sed just the following 10 lines in Vim?
[05:38] <tsimonq2> If not, I'll look it up.
[05:38] <wxl> uh
[05:38] <wxl> that's like saying how do you vim something?
[05:38] <wxl> i assume you want to substitute?
[05:39] <tsimonq2> Right.
[05:39] <wxl> so you need to select some text first
[05:39] <wxl> do V10j
[05:39] <wxl> then :s/blah/blah/
[05:40] <tsimonq2> Trying that.
[05:40] <wxl> it'll fill in some crazy stuff. you'll see.
[05:40] <tsimonq2> HAH.
[05:40] <tsimonq2> Jeez, how did I not know this? Thanks.
[05:41] <wxl> np
[05:41] <wxl> that '<,'> (i had to remember what it was) suggests it's a selection
[05:42] <tsimonq2> Ahhh.
[05:43] <wxl> by entering command mode direct from visual you're necessarily implying you're working on a selection. of course you could do more than replace.
[05:45] <wxl> ok, i found it. ubuntu_upload_history.changed_by_email. and those two are kc2bez's very first entries (they're not in there yet obviously!)
[05:45] <wxl> congrats on your first uploads, kc2bez !!!!
[05:45] <tsimonq2> Nice, congrats!
[05:46] <tsimonq2> wxl: The fun thing I'm working on is that in the last Debian upload iteration, someone decided to mark a bunch of symbols as private and do some changes, the problem being that the symbols they modified don't include arm64 because of GLES differences between Debian and Ubuntu.
[05:46] <tsimonq2> So I have to add them.
[05:47] <wxl> btw if anyone wants to see all of their uploads just use this to figure out how to connect to the database: https://udd-mirror.debian.net/ and when you're in, do something like `select source, version, distribution from ubuntu_upload_history where changed_by_email = 'youremail';`
[05:47] <wxl> EW
[05:48] <tsimonq2> I know, right.
[05:48] <tsimonq2> And yep. :D
[05:48] <tsimonq2> As a Debian Developer I have access to the master server but others need to use the mirror.
[05:48] <tsimonq2> (It's no different, except I get the more up-to-date query results.)
[05:49] <wxl> for some reason i would expect it to be less likely that libraries would have ubuntu specific deltas
[05:50] <tsimonq2> And I agree, however, in this specific instance it's a major difference.
[05:50] <wxl> can i ask why???
[05:51] <tsimonq2> Read the debian-devel thread in like November or December about Qt GLES stuff. It comes down to an ARM graphics driver difference that I haven't fully wrapped my head around yet.
[05:51] <wxl> oh great
[05:51] <wxl> well i guess i'll see you in a couple weeks XD
[05:52] <tsimonq2> XD
[05:52] <tsimonq2> (As I have found out, debian-private is like 10x worse than debian-devel...)
[05:52] <tsimonq2> *AHEM*
[05:52] <tsimonq2> ;)
[05:52] <wxl> hey man i've got more than enough channels eo ECHAN in
[05:52] <tsimonq2> HAHAHAHAHA
[05:54] <tsimonq2> So, qtbase source is downloading, and I'm running lubuntu-default-settings through a Bionic build now.
[05:55] <wxl> nice. i'm mostly done for the night, i think, but i'm going to be at the keyboard for a while if needed
[05:55] <tsimonq2> Yeah, I'm about at the same myself.
[05:55] <tsimonq2> I do want to get qtbase uploaded though.
[05:55] <wxl> good idea
[05:57] <tsimonq2> Oh cool, that lubuntu-default-settings build passed.
[05:57] <wxl> yay
[05:58] <tsimonq2> Added apologies to the bug report and uploaded.
[05:58] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-default-settings (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.54 => 0.54.2] (no packageset)
[06:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS52dd325d90ed: Add a bug reference and upload to Bionic.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS52dd325d90ed
[06:08] <tsimonq2> qtbase build started, I'll probably just let it run overnight and then upload it tomorrow before I go to school.
[06:10] <wxl> sounds good
[06:11] <tsimonq2> Night folks!
[06:11] <wxl> night
[07:34] <guiverc> krytarik, `apt-cache policy xscreensaver` -> Installed: 5.36-1ubuntu1  -- (same result as per 5.42+dfsg1-1ubuntu1  on lubuntu 19.04; didn't look at xfce as didn't have issue there)
[07:38] <krytarik> guiverc: Okay.  Try and reproduce this on a Lubuntu 18.04 Live medium to perhaps exclude LXQt being a factor.
[07:47] <guiverc> krytarik, does arch matter?  (my box is x86_64, have found lubuntu 18.04 i686 thumb-drive) will that do?
[07:47] <guiverc> or should i keep looking (or write a x86_64)?
[07:47] <krytarik> No, can't imagine it does.
[07:47] <guiverc> :) thanks
[07:49]  * guiverc gone to do some testing...
[08:21] <guiverc> krytarik:  (I realize gone, but..)  18.04.1 x86; xscreensaver 5.36-1ubuntu1 installed (both zesty & bionic had same version) - both displays had different patterns & colors; but both hidden by screensaver & no windows visible
[10:12] <guiverc> krytarik:  (mainly for log, i've updated bug report already) .. rebooted 18.04.1 x86 & installed xscreensaver 5.42+dfsg1-1ubuntu1,  it ran normally (covering both screens with screensaver as expected) - logged out, back in & same result...
[10:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUDEFAULTSETTINGSARCHIVE3a8353a48f8f: DSC file for 1.18] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUDEFAULTSETTINGSARCHIVE3a8353a48f8f
[10:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUDEFAULTSETTINGSARCHIVEc69890b4e01b: Import patches-unapplied version 1.18 to ubuntu/disco-proposed] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUDEFAULTSETTINGSARCHIVEc69890b4e01b
[10:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUDEFAULTSETTINGSARCHIVE689b06c18c80: Import patches-applied version 1.18 to applied/ubuntu/disco-proposed] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUDEFAULTSETTINGSARCHIVE689b06c18c80
[14:45] <tsimonq2> qtbase> Alright, so it builds, but there's some install file issues I'll have to sort out.
[14:45] <tsimonq2> Unfortunately I'll be afk for the next 11 hours, but I'll get 'er going tonight.
[14:46] <tsimonq2> @anyone: feel free to ping me if you have stuff you'd like me to look at then. :)
[14:47] <tsimonq2> wxl: If you could test bug 1799855 (or find someone that will) today that'd be cool; sil2100 accepted it.
[14:48] <tsimonq2> *ahem* anyone who wants to get involved with QA, instructions are on the most recent comment of that bug report, get at it! :D
[14:48] <tsimonq2> ttfn
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 @The_LoudSpeaker [After creating a vm of disco in virt-manager, when I run it and ran the installa …], Hi! Try, please, the "Lubuntu Suport" channel.
[16:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T178: Plymouth Logo centering] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T178#3630
 (Photo, 800x481) https://i.imgur.com/VdAXLgt.jpg Here it is (in magnified detail and with little definition because of me, once I took a picture with the mobile phone) the new realignment of the Plymouth logo, presented by apt-ghetto in the phab. He told me to put this review here on the dev channel so that everyone could see it. H
 We can see that the points would now be in the same position as they are in the Ubuntu Plymouth, under the same letters. But the point is that the Word "Lubuntu" has one more letter, the letter "L" on the left. the Issue is almost solved, we just need to add a little more space to the left and we would get the most perfect Plymouth
 (Photo, 482x286) https://i.imgur.com/LQb2KSY.jpg Compare with the actual Lubuntu Plymouth logo
[18:45] <wxl> so who wants to test https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1799855 ?
[19:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8cfe09a10239: Add bulk rename] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8cfe09a10239
[19:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL86a7b4aba44f: Add obvious ways to close tabs] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL86a7b4aba44f
[19:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb5c46bdf4ca7: Add keyboard and menu ways to close tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb5c46bdf4ca7
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 @wxl hey Walter, check your email for my reply if you get the chance this week.
[20:14] <wxl[m]> @SamuelBanya I got it. Patience is a virtue 😊
[20:19] <teward> wxl[m]: lies, patience is a hindrance.  *laughs evilly*
[20:28] <wxl[m]> Don't make me hurt you teward
[20:28] <teward> :P
[22:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL31aa5ebf3386: Add checkbox for confirm before deleting files] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL31aa5ebf3386
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[22:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL18a771d803fa: Start display tab for pcmanfm-qt] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL18a771d803fa
[23:05] <guiverc> krytarik, fyi:  no issues at all yesterday with xscreensaver (both 5.42+dfsg1-1ubuntu1 and 5.36-1ubuntu1) when tested on 18.04.1 x86 live mode.  both displays had screensaver..
[23:09] <krytarik> guiverc: Okay, thanks.  Then it seems like the correct package to file the bug report against is somewhere in the LXQt space.
[23:10] <guiverc> yeah I agree; but for now bug #1814490 is wrong (blame wise) - it documents what i did anyway
[23:18] <krytarik> guiverc: Try and "killall lxqt-powermanagement" and see if it's still the same then?
[23:19] <krytarik> Otherwise, only lxqt-session comes to mind as a possible culprit.
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[23:33] <guiverc> no change with lxqt-powermanagement killed krytarik 
[23:34] <guiverc> sorry -- ignore my last; typo meant I failed to kill it :(  (same typo in my `ps` I used to confirm it)
[23:34] <krytarik> Hahaha.. :P