[00:02] <Nweve102> Ha scuse me I didn't know exactly where to put and since it's late I figured. I am new at these kind of things.
[00:03] <Nweve102> I understand the question has been askes a thousand times around on internet.
[00:06] <wxl> and i suspect you found answers
[00:07] <wxl> there's obviously not a correct answer
[00:09] <wxl> but there is one thing to take note of: lxde development has slowed to a tiny little crawl, while lxqt is a very active project. lxqt also includes many core lxde developers no longer contributing to lxde.
[00:09] <Nweve102> Yes I found some answers indeed. What I understood basicly is that Xubuntu isn't accualy that lightweight because of everything that comes with it. And that Ubuntu in combination with Lxde might be a good idea.
[00:10] <wxl> it's not fair to call lxde dead, but it's certainly a lot less alive
[00:10] <lynorian> although some applications we shipped with lxde are dead
[00:11] <wxl> ubuntu is going to throw in a bunch of extra stuff.
[00:11] <wxl> you don't want that
[00:11] <Nweve102> oke I understand. I am trying the Lxde desktop now because it seems to take up a bit less space then Lxqt.
[00:11] <wxl> your primary issue is disk space?
[00:11] <Nweve102> ah
[00:12] <Nweve102> yes defenetly disk space and old computer so doens't run as smooth anymore.
[00:12] <Nweve102> *laptop.
[00:13] <Nweve102> Yes so now I am running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS with Lxde desktop. So might be better to swich to Lubuntu even if I understand correctly.
[00:14] <wxl> well lubuntu is not providing lxde anymore. once those versions that provided it are unsupported, it's going to be difficult to keep running lxde.
[00:14] <wxl> oh that's totally your problem then
[00:14] <Nweve102> I tried the xfce4 desktop but it had some problems from the start already with several different things. Very slow in starting up. Lxde already seems faster.
[00:14] <wxl> you could install ubuntu-core, lxqt, and then add on only the applications you need
[00:15] <wxl> lubuntu necessarily includes aditional applications that you may or may not want
[00:15] <wxl> alternately, you could install lubuntu and delete applications ou don't want
[00:16] <Nweve102> yes so I could stick with what I have now. And add the Lxqt desktop on the Ubuntu 18.04.
[00:17] <wxl> note that ubuntu-core != ubuntui
[00:17] <Nweve102> Or u mean something else with Ubuntu core?
[00:17] <wxl> ubuntu includes a WHOLE BUNCH of extra things
[00:17] <Nweve102> oh
[00:17] <wxl> more than anything else
[00:17] <Nweve102> ah key I see
[00:19] <Nweve102> I must say I am a newly linux user I was on windows before. So I need it to be a bit user friendly in the beginning to.
[00:20] <Nweve102> is this Ubuntu core 18 you are talking about?
[00:20] <wxl> i think you'll find lxqt more user friendly than lxde by far
[00:21] <wxl> yep
[00:22] <Nweve102> okey thanks I'll take a look. I seem to be able to find my way on the Lxde desktop until now. Will see. I'll try it out!
[00:30] <Nweve102> Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
[00:32] <wxl> no prob. be well
[00:38] <Nweve102> thank you have good evening.
[01:04] <wxl> 6il4n$
[01:04] <wxl> bahhhhhhhhhhh
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[01:20] <Wehber> Hi what do I select I Synaptic if I only want to instal the Lxqt desktop?
[01:23] <wxl> lxqt or lxqt-core depending on what you're trying to accomplish
[01:25] <Wehber> I want to instal Lxqt in Ubuntu 18.04
[01:26] <Wehber> do you mean lxqt metapackage?
[01:26] <wxl> yep
[01:27] <Wehber> wat is the difference between the lxqt metapackage/ lxqt desktop and lxqt core?
[01:27] <wxl> lxqt includes lxqt-core and some other stuff
[01:28] <Wehber> because I installed xfce and I didn't manage to uninstall everything and idk why.
[01:28] <Wehber> lxqt-core is xubuntu?
[01:28] <wxl> no, it's the deskktop environment of lubuntu, thus the l
[01:29] <Wehber> yes I meant Lubuntu sry. But it's more stuff then the lxqt desktop
[01:30] <wxl> i will say though that lubuntu uses lxqt-core and adds to that
[01:30] <wxl> lxqt will not produce the exact same results
[01:30] <wxl> what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:34] <Wehber> I want to run lxqt on Ubuntu and eventualy on unbunto core
[01:35] <Wehber> The desktop environement instead of Mate for example.
[01:35] <wxl> why not ust use lubuntu?
[01:44] <Wehber> because it's heavier then ubuntu core. And I first want to try it out. Whitout having to reinstall.
[01:48] <wxl> lubuntu is a finely tuned experience. the only heaviness is from the unrequired applications, which can be easily removed
[01:49] <wxl> you might want to look at the lubuntu-desktop package, install lxqt-core and then start playing with it. if you need more stuff, look through the list of lubuntu-desktop
[01:55] <Wehber> oke thank you I will give that a try. Thank you for the help. And have a good evening.
[01:58] <Wehber> Because if I understand correctly Lxqt is more active then Lxde that I installed recently. So that's why I want to try out Lxqt and I am looking for the most lightweight combination to put on my old laptop.
[01:59] <Wehber> ...and also userfriendly since I come from windows.
[02:10] <Wehber> ok I am logging out now. Thank you for everything.
[13:17] <lyiriyah> hi
[20:43] <Newone> hello I have a question I want to try the Lxqt environnement on Unbuntu Mate so whitout Lubuntu. What would be the right command for that? Because I tried:sudo apt-get install lxqt but it seems a bit much!?
[20:44] <Newone> And I tried with the lxqt-desktop and this changed my ubunto base as well.
[20:45] <Newone> And openbox still seems to be installed.
[20:45] <Newone> I cannot get rid of all the leftovers of the desktop flavours.
[20:46] <ffdddssss> hi
 @Newone [<Newone> And openbox still seems to be installed.], Lubuntu runs lxqt de with openbox as wm
[20:56] <Newone> oke yes that's what I figures. So all is normal! Thank you.