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floridagram-bot<govatent> Is anyone using the Google "messages" app for Sms or what do you use for Sms? Signal is my preferred chat platform but so many people still use Sms03:39
floridagram-bot<KMyers> @govatent, I use the Google one and Google Voice. The reason is that I use the web client and ChromeOS integration03:40
floridagram-bot<govatent> Yea. I was tired of using textra with no web integration for Sms. Yet another part of my life going to Google data collection lol03:42
floridagram-bot<KMyers> Google does not collect data from SMS03:43
floridagram-bot<KMyers> They also do not mine GMail03:43
floridagram-bot<govatent> Ah03:45
floridagram-bot<govatent> I was gonna read the privacy policy later although I don't mind if they did03:45
floridagram-bot<govatent> I know for the auto reply it reads the messages on the spot. I think Gmail does that too if I understand right03:46
floridagram-bot<KMyers> @govatent, Yes. In the browser and not mined03:46
floridagram-bot<KMyers> @govatent, SMS is not encrypted which is the fault of the protocol. This is the weakness with SMS. With that said, SMS for the web uses a private/public key pair that is only shared with your device, that is the QR code you scan. Not even Google can see the messages03:48
floridagram-bot<govatent> I figured it was direct access to sms but to the application on the phone. i know sms is unsecure as it is03:50
floridagram-bot<govatent> another thing i liked about messages is that it will support RCS if tmobile ever gets to it03:50
floridagram-bot<SivaMachina> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/26/google-will-stop-scanning-content-of-personal-emails03:51
floridagram-bot<KMyers> It is not direct access as that would need carrier integration, it uses your phone as a relay. If your phone is powered off, it won't work03:51
floridagram-bot<SivaMachina> So they did mine data to tailor ads it seems03:52
floridagram-bot<KMyers> @SivaMachina, That is a horrible article that I was very critical when it came out. A lot of things were taken out of context. It was clickbait03:52
floridagram-bot<KMyers> Having a JavaScript agent in the browser to bring in ads based on keywords without relaying the content of the email to the server is hardly a threatening form of data mining.03:55
floridagram-bot<govatent> ah03:56
floridagram-bot<govatent> now i understand better how it worked03:56
floridagram-bot<govatent> So i'm following some steps from https://support.system76.com/articles/file-sharing/ and noticed @aaro03:57
floridagram-bot<govatent> noticed @ahoneybun name is in the screenshot example03:58
floridagram-bot<KMyers> Needless to say, there are things that Google does mine, mainly via cookies on websites you visit. With that said, many other sites do that as well such as Facebook, Twitter and others03:58
floridagram-bot<KMyers> @govatent, His email address is there. Time to add it to spam lists03:58
floridagram-bot<govatent> lol03:59
floridagram-bot<SivaMachina> Well if someone wanted a more private transfering of messages. I would imagine they would be going through the trouble of setting something up that was more private.03:59
floridagram-bot<KMyers> @SivaMachina, Agreed there. That is where dedicated apps that offer end to end encryption are the most beneficial. Telegram, WhatsApp, Signal, etc04:01
floridagram-bot<KMyers> @KMyers, Of course a self hosted federated system that offers end to end encryption would be the best04:02
floridagram-bot<SivaMachina> some more effectively implemented then others04:02
floridagram-bot<ahoneybun> @govatent I wrote the article.04:02
floridagram-bot<govatent> but then you can take it a step further with tin foil, can you trust the isp to transmit your self hosted solution, even if its end to end encrypted :P04:02
floridagram-bot<KMyers> @SivaMachina, No disagreement from me04:03
floridagram-bot<KMyers> @govatent, I trust my ISP as far as I can throw them04:03
floridagram-bot<govatent> lol04:03
floridagram-bot<govatent> to bad it's not google fiber04:03
floridagram-bot<govatent> actually, you should look into webpass have you heard of it?04:03
floridagram-bot<govatent> https://webpass.net/miami/04:04
floridagram-bot<govatent> i forgot you had ip space04:04
floridagram-bot<KMyers> @govatent, They don't offer residential service to houses. They are targeting large condos and appartment buildings04:06
floridagram-bot<govatent> ah dang.04:06
floridagram-bot<govatent> would have been a great replacement for comcast.04:06
floridagram-bot<KMyers> @govatent, Yes. I like being able to show off04:06
floridagram-bot<govatent> lol it is super cool04:08
floridagram-bot<govatent> do you know where gnome puts the webdav config file?04:08
floridagram-bot<govatent> when you use the gui to setup a share04:08
floridagram-bot<govatent> i want to get away from using samba and webdav seems to now be built into the gnome gui04:08
floridagram-bot<govatent> i have it running, but form one pop os machine to another, it automaticlly finds the share, i want to test access using osx/windows as well04:09
maxolasersquadgovatent, why do you want to access the config files directly?16:31
maxolasersquadEverything should be configurable from within Nautilus.16:39
floridagram-bot<govatent> I ended up getting it working. Pop os doesn't have the samba nautilus installed by default anymore18:06
floridagram-bot<ahoneybun> I don't think it ever did.18:07
floridagram-bot<Luke Van Dervoort> If anyone is interested18:07
floridagram-bot<Luke Van Dervoort> https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/sys/d/fort-lauderdale-ubuntu-pc-amd-a10/6811338437.html18:07
floridagram-bot<ahoneybun> Luke Thanks for sharing!18:07
floridagram-bot<govatent> I just unsalted Ubuntu 4.10 in a vm for fun.20:59
floridagram-bot<govatent> Ubuntu has come so far20:59
floridagram-bot<govatent> Ndiswrapper nightmare for wifi21:00
floridagram-bot<govatent> Who remembers that? Haha21:00
floridagram-bot<Ivoriesablaze> i remember those days21:00
floridagram-bot<Luke Van Dervoort> I do! I had a laptop only way to get wifi!!!21:00
floridagram-bot<Ivoriesablaze> oh the memories of the cursing and shouting21:00
floridagram-bot<govatent> @ahoneybun do you have an amd gpu?22:59
floridagram-bot<ahoneybun> I do have one in my desktop.23:00
floridagram-bot<ahoneybun> @govatent23:00
floridagram-bot<govatent> Are you using the amd gpupro driver or the open source mesa driver?23:00
floridagram-bot<govatent> I was trying to use steam proton on my desktop23:00
floridagram-bot<ahoneybun> Not sure. I just installed Ubuntu and was done.23:01
floridagram-bot<ahoneybun> so maybe the open source.23:01
floridagram-bot<govatent> Yea same23:01
floridagram-bot<govatent> I actually used pop os on my desktop too23:01
floridagram-bot<govatent> I really like pop os23:01
floridagram-bot<gillymomo> Ah GPU drivers23:01
floridagram-bot<govatent> Funny when it first came out I thought it was pointless23:01
floridagram-bot<govatent> Lol @gillymomo23:01
floridagram-bot<govatent> What's your setup?23:02
floridagram-bot<gillymomo> Which one?23:02
floridagram-bot<gillymomo> I have 623:02
floridagram-bot<govatent> Gpu and driver23:02
floridagram-bot<govatent> Ah23:02
floridagram-bot<gillymomo> My Linux box has a 107023:02
floridagram-bot<gillymomo> And a 4790K23:02
floridagram-bot<gillymomo> I am on 410 iirc23:03
floridagram-bot<gillymomo> My main rig is a 1660v3 with a 1080Ti23:03
floridagram-bot<gillymomo> And my auxiliary rig is a 5820K with a 1070 (it has an Ubuntu sever VM)23:04
floridagram-bot<gillymomo> And I have two dual 1366 severs and a Sandy bridge Xeon (1155)23:05
floridagram-bot<govatent> Sweet23:35
floridagram-bot<govatent> I've got a low profile HD7000 series gpu on my desktop. Not much of a gamer myself.23:36
floridagram-bot<ahoneybun> @govatent there are a lot of weird games on PC.23:37
floridagram-bot<ahoneybun> So I like having one around.23:37
floridagram-bot<govatent> I wanted to play pc builder simulator lol23:37
floridagram-bot<govatent> I played it when I had windows but I just couldn't stand running windows on the desktop so I went back to Linux gaming23:38
floridagram-bot<govatent> I hate windows with a passion23:38
floridagram-bot<ahoneybun> I have Windows installed for games.23:38
floridagram-bot<govatent> It's so slow23:38
floridagram-bot<Luke Van Dervoort> Your a good man @alan23:38
floridagram-bot<RazPi> @govatent You could try getting a cheap gpu and free up your heavy gpu for a windows passthrough23:46
floridagram-bot<govatent> Not a bad idea23:47
floridagram-bot<govatent> Tonight I'm gonna test amds proprietary driver23:47

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