 Is anyone using the Google "messages" app for Sms or what do you use for Sms? Signal is my preferred chat platform but so many people still use Sms
 @govatent, I use the Google one and Google Voice. The reason is that I use the web client and ChromeOS integration
 Yea. I was tired of using textra with no web integration for Sms. Yet another part of my life going to Google data collection lol
 Google does not collect data from SMS
 They also do not mine GMail
 Ah
 I was gonna read the privacy policy later although I don't mind if they did
 I know for the auto reply it reads the messages on the spot. I think Gmail does that too if I understand right
 @govatent, Yes. In the browser and not mined
 @govatent, SMS is not encrypted which is the fault of the protocol. This is the weakness with SMS. With that said, SMS for the web uses a private/public key pair that is only shared with your device, that is the QR code you scan. Not even Google can see the messages
 I figured it was direct access to sms but to the application on the phone. i know sms is unsecure as it is
 another thing i liked about messages is that it will support RCS if tmobile ever gets to it
 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/26/google-will-stop-scanning-content-of-personal-emails
 It is not direct access as that would need carrier integration, it uses your phone as a relay. If your phone is powered off, it won't work
 So they did mine data to tailor ads it seems
 @SivaMachina, That is a horrible article that I was very critical when it came out. A lot of things were taken out of context. It was clickbait
 Having a JavaScript agent in the browser to bring in ads based on keywords without relaying the content of the email to the server is hardly a threatening form of data mining.
 ah
 now i understand better how it worked
 So i'm following some steps from https://support.system76.com/articles/file-sharing/ and noticed @aaro
 noticed @ahoneybun name is in the screenshot example
 Needless to say, there are things that Google does mine, mainly via cookies on websites you visit. With that said, many other sites do that as well such as Facebook, Twitter and others
 @govatent, His email address is there. Time to add it to spam lists
 lol
 Well if someone wanted a more private transfering of messages. I would imagine they would be going through the trouble of setting something up that was more private.
 @SivaMachina, Agreed there. That is where dedicated apps that offer end to end encryption are the most beneficial. Telegram, WhatsApp, Signal, etc
 @KMyers, Of course a self hosted federated system that offers end to end encryption would be the best
 some more effectively implemented then others
 @govatent I wrote the article.
 but then you can take it a step further with tin foil, can you trust the isp to transmit your self hosted solution, even if its end to end encrypted :P
 @SivaMachina, No disagreement from me
 @govatent, I trust my ISP as far as I can throw them
 lol
 to bad it's not google fiber
 actually, you should look into webpass have you heard of it?
 https://webpass.net/miami/
 i forgot you had ip space
 @govatent, They don't offer residential service to houses. They are targeting large condos and appartment buildings
 ah dang.
 would have been a great replacement for comcast.
 @govatent, Yes. I like being able to show off
 lol it is super cool
 do you know where gnome puts the webdav config file?
 when you use the gui to setup a share
 i want to get away from using samba and webdav seems to now be built into the gnome gui
 i have it running, but form one pop os machine to another, it automaticlly finds the share, i want to test access using osx/windows as well
[16:31] <maxolasersquad> govatent, why do you want to access the config files directly?
[16:39] <maxolasersquad> Everything should be configurable from within Nautilus.
 I ended up getting it working. Pop os doesn't have the samba nautilus installed by default anymore
 I don't think it ever did.
[18:07] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> If anyone is interested
[18:07] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/sys/d/fort-lauderdale-ubuntu-pc-amd-a10/6811338437.html
 Luke Thanks for sharing!
 I just unsalted Ubuntu 4.10 in a vm for fun.
 Ubuntu has come so far
 Ndiswrapper nightmare for wifi
 Who remembers that? Haha
 i remember those days
[21:00] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> I do! I had a laptop only way to get wifi!!!
 oh the memories of the cursing and shouting
 @ahoneybun do you have an amd gpu?
 I do have one in my desktop.
 @govatent
 Are you using the amd gpupro driver or the open source mesa driver?
 I was trying to use steam proton on my desktop
 Not sure. I just installed Ubuntu and was done.
 so maybe the open source.
 Yea same
 I actually used pop os on my desktop too
 I really like pop os
 Ah GPU drivers
 Funny when it first came out I thought it was pointless
 Lol @gillymomo
 What's your setup?
 Which one?
 I have 6
 Gpu and driver
 Ah
 My Linux box has a 1070
 And a 4790K
 I am on 410 iirc
 My main rig is a 1660v3 with a 1080Ti
 And my auxiliary rig is a 5820K with a 1070 (it has an Ubuntu sever VM)
 And I have two dual 1366 severs and a Sandy bridge Xeon (1155)
 Sweet
 I've got a low profile HD7000 series gpu on my desktop. Not much of a gamer myself.
 @govatent there are a lot of weird games on PC.
 So I like having one around.
 I wanted to play pc builder simulator lol
 I played it when I had windows but I just couldn't stand running windows on the desktop so I went back to Linux gaming
 I hate windows with a passion
 I have Windows installed for games.
 It's so slow
[23:38] <floridagram-bot> <Luke Van Dervoort> Your a good man @alan
 @govatent You could try getting a cheap gpu and free up your heavy gpu for a windows passthrough
 Not a bad idea
 Tonight I'm gonna test amds proprietary driver