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| didrocks | good morning | 08:18 |
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| jibel | Morning didrocks | 08:21 |
| didrocks | salut jibel | 08:21 |
| didrocks | I can give some hands on iso testing, it's the one in pending, correct? | 08:21 |
| jibel | didrocks, it's http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/bionic/daily-live/current/ | 08:23 |
| didrocks | ok, already moved to current | 08:23 |
| * didrocks does | 08:23 | |
| willcooke | morning all | 08:51 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 08:53 |
| jibel | Hi willcooke | 08:54 |
| willcooke | ca va? | 08:55 |
| Laney | lo | 09:02 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 09:07 |
| willcooke | jibel, do you know, is the lack of "drums" when the live session starts (I'm doing the screen reader iso test) a known/reported issue? | 09:15 |
| willcooke | Ah, the drums are the signal for the installer starting, kk | 09:18 |
| * Laney boops at didrocks | 09:20 | |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 09:25 |
| willcooke | hi seb128 Laney | 09:25 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 09:26 |
| Laney | moin seb128 & willcooke | 09:26 |
| seb128 | hey Laney :) | 09:26 |
| Laney | vots up | 09:27 |
| willcooke | jibel, where should this bug go: | 09:30 |
| willcooke | I did the install with the screenreader | 09:30 |
| willcooke | Before the install completed the screensaver kicked in, and so I was never told that the install finished. | 09:31 |
| willcooke | Also there is no indication that I'm looking at the lock screen from the screenreader, so I just sat there for 10 mins not knowing what was going on | 09:31 |
| willcooke | Is that a ubiquiuty bug? | 09:31 |
| willcooke | Simple fix would be to disable the screensaver when the install is running perhaps? | 09:32 |
| willcooke | (which I thought we did) | 09:32 |
| Laney | that'd be a ubiquity bug, it's supposed to disable that stuff, so I'd file it there | 09:43 |
| willcooke | Laney, thanks | 09:44 |
| Laney | https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/tree/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py#n567 | 09:48 |
| Laney | don't think that is the right stuff to be using in shell | 09:48 |
| Laney | org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay 0 maybe | 09:49 |
| willcooke | I'll try that | 09:50 |
| willcooke | ha | 09:59 |
| willcooke | It's python3 and my print statements broke it | 09:59 |
| willcooke | :D | 09:59 |
| Laney | /o\ | 10:00 |
| Laney | maybe just gsettings set that before you install | 10:00 |
| willcooke | oh, nice idea | 10:00 |
| willcooke | well, I've fixed it now, so lemme see both ways | 10:00 |
| didrocks | willcooke: welcome to 2008, oh wait :) | 10:01 |
| willcooke | didrocks, as far as I'm concerned, anything that happened after 1997 is rubbish | 10:01 |
| didrocks | haha | 10:01 |
| Laney | new labour | 10:01 |
| didrocks | is that the correct time to mention ubuntu's creation date? :p | 10:01 |
| willcooke | I stand by my decision | 10:02 |
| willcooke | oh, my kids | 10:02 |
| willcooke | meh | 10:02 |
| didrocks | haha | 10:03 |
| didrocks | … "I still stand by my decision" | 10:03 |
| willcooke | :D | 10:03 |
| willcooke | indeed | 10:03 |
| didrocks | hum, starcraft was 1998 though | 10:04 |
| didrocks | maybe add this exception? ^ | 10:04 |
| willcooke | haha | 10:06 |
| willcooke | welp, my changes to the code didnt work, but I probably did it wrong. | 10:13 |
| willcooke | I will try just setting that setting | 10:13 |
| seb128 | willcooke, screensaver or screenlock is your issue? | 10:16 |
| willcooke | oh, right, screenlock | 10:16 |
| willcooke | erm | 10:16 |
| willcooke | well | 10:16 |
| willcooke | the screen goes blank, which is screensaver | 10:17 |
| willcooke | then it's "locked" | 10:17 |
| willcooke | so... both? | 10:17 |
| seb128 | willcooke, you can try to 'gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.lockdown disable-lock-screen true' | 10:23 |
| Laney | this is different from screen blanking | 10:23 |
| willcooke | I did laney's suggestion of "org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay 0" and so far that's working... just want to give it a few more mins | 10:23 |
| seb128 | well, blanking isn't an issue is it? | 10:24 |
| seb128 | imho it's fine if the screen goes in power saving over a long install | 10:24 |
| Laney | that's what the code was doing previously | 10:25 |
| seb128 | as long as it resume fine/unlocked once you touch the match | 10:25 |
| Laney | if you want to revisit that decision, fine | 10:25 |
| seb128 | *the mouse | 10:25 |
| Laney | but it broke due to a bug | 10:25 |
| Laney | not an intentional change | 10:25 |
| willcooke | I will have to test, but.. the problem was that if the screen blanked then the screenreader stopped reading things | 10:25 |
| willcooke | s/blanked/locked | 10:25 |
| Laney | fine by me if seb128 wants to take over owning the fix | 10:26 |
| willcooke | Happy that Laney's fix solves my problem | 10:36 |
| seb128 | IRC in train is not the best :/ | 10:42 |
| willcooke | :D | 10:42 |
| willcooke | seb128, L_aney's fix worked, testing your alternative now... | 10:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, willcooke, unsure what's the intend of that code was, but yeah fine with me either way making it work as it used to work or look at what's supposed to do/what makes sense and do that | 10:43 |
| willcooke | my concern is that if the screen turns off then the screenreader will stop talking, and never tell me that the install finished | 10:43 |
| seb128 | yeah, that's possible, I don't know if having screen turning off stops the reading | 10:45 |
| willcooke | k, with your change the lockscreen still came down and moving the mouse around gives no feedback at all | 10:47 |
| willcooke | clicking does nothnig | 10:48 |
| willcooke | so yeah, I think that's conclusive then | 10:48 |
| Laney | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/362788 | 10:49 |
| Laney | try that | 10:49 |
| willcooke | How do I do that? Just download and copy over the one which is on the USB stick? | 10:50 |
| Laney | you should be able to hax0r that diff in from a live session | 10:50 |
| Laney | and pro tip | 10:50 |
| Laney | `gsettings monitor org.gnome.desktop.session' in a terminal will show you any changes to keys in there | 10:51 |
| willcooke | ace! | 10:51 |
| willcooke | thanks | 10:51 |
| Laney | so you should see that do the thing straight after starting ubiquity | 10:51 |
| willcooke | Laney, do I ninja the one in /rofs (which I assume is read only, so probably not) or /usr/lib/ubiquity/blah | 10:55 |
| Laney | ya the second one | 10:56 |
| willcooke | tas | 10:56 |
| willcooke | ta | 10:56 |
| Laney | if you get lucky it might even work to apply the patch | 10:56 |
| willcooke | imma just over write it | 10:56 |
| Laney | like "cd /usr/lib/ubiquity; GET https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/patch/?id=9017a4dfc3b7ded03dec0312231f0f89d7101871 | sudo patch -p1" or something | 10:57 |
| Laney | don't forget the change to gsettings.py | 10:57 |
| willcooke | ah right | 10:57 |
| willcooke | # patch -p1 < screensaver.patch | 10:59 |
| willcooke | patching file ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py | 10:59 |
| willcooke | Hunk #1 succeeded at 585 (offset -2 lines). | 10:59 |
| willcooke | Hunk #2 succeeded at 759 (offset -2 lines). | 10:59 |
| willcooke | patching file ubiquity/gsettings.py | 10:59 |
| willcooke | root@ubuntu:/usr/lib/ubiquity# | 10:59 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 10:59 |
| Laney | you lucky thing | 11:00 |
| willcooke | boom! idle-delay: 0 | 11:01 |
| * Laney nods sagely | 11:02 | |
| Laney | probably too late for .2, but if you file a bug we can SRU that for the next one | 11:03 |
| Laney | or we get lucky and .2 gets delayed ;-) | 11:03 |
| Laney | also needs to be reviewed of course | 11:04 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, hey, thanks for the modemmanager update! You forgot to Cc Mathieu on the email though I looks like? | 11:15 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, also it might make sense to open a bug on the Debian BTS or launchpad for the update, easier for comments/review? | 11:16 |
| willcooke | Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1814875 | 11:16 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1814875 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screensaver is not disabled during install" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:16 |
| willcooke | thanks! | 11:16 |
| jibel | didrocks, I've something weird in a live session, it's like the chrome of the shell is missing, no background, no dock. Did you see that in a VM? | 13:05 |
| jibel | I thought I did something wrong but it's the second time I see this | 13:05 |
| didrocks | jibel: I didn't get that in vm at all, no chrome of the shell… like if it crashed? | 13:07 |
| didrocks | a* | 13:08 |
| jibel | not a crash because I've the top bar and it's reactive, I can click on the indicators for example | 13:08 |
| didrocks | but it doesn't have any transparent background? | 13:08 |
| didrocks | so it's there, but wrongly stacked? | 13:08 |
| jibel | no | 13:09 |
| jibel | no transparent bg | 13:09 |
| jibel | there are JS errors in the journal: TypeError: monitor is null | 13:09 |
| didrocks | ah :) could explain | 13:09 |
| didrocks | I don't have that in my journal, so that's one difference | 13:10 |
| willcooke | muhaha. I used up the 50 MB of free data on the train wifi, and it has "limited my connection speed". Jokes on them, IRC FTW! | 13:30 |
| ricotz | hey, is webkit2gtk 2.22 likely to be backported to Xenial/16.04? | 13:36 |
| mdeslaur | ricotz: can't, it needs a newer gcc | 13:39 |
| ricotz | mdeslaur, ah I see | 13:45 |
| doko | mdeslaur, ricotz: there is gcc-8 in bionic | 13:47 |
| doko | ahh, xenial. that has gcc-mozilla | 13:47 |
| ricotz | yeah, was about to mention the possible use of gcc-mozilla | 13:48 |
| mdeslaur | it has gcc-mozilla, but it would need a newer libstdc too | 13:48 |
| mdeslaur | and I don't know how to handle that | 13:48 |
| mdeslaur | firefox has a big compatibility shim to be able to build with a newer gcc but run with an older library | 13:48 |
| jbicha | upstream will bump other dependencies for webkit 2.26 (this September) since the 3-year Xenial clock is expiring https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WebKitGTK/DependenciesPolicy | 13:51 |
| xnox | hmmm... has anybody inherited libpam-freerdp in ubuntu? | 13:54 |
| xnox | do we care about maintaining it still? | 13:54 |
| mdeslaur | jbicha: "We support each Ubuntu LTS until one year after the release of the next Ubuntu LTS." didn't really turn out to be accurate anyway | 13:56 |
| jbicha | there is the big "except for gcc" disclaimer :( | 13:56 |
| mdeslaur | heh | 13:57 |
| doko | mdeslaur: don't they support building with static libstdc++? do you really need a libstdc++ of a newer major GCC version? | 14:18 |
| mdeslaur | doko: I don't know...it's a library too, what happens when something else loads it? | 14:18 |
| mdeslaur | doko: wouldn't that be problematic? | 14:19 |
| mdeslaur | someone would need to investigate this, but it's not high on our priority list | 14:21 |
| willcooke | seb128, I asked ondra to plug his iPhone X in to a Bionic machine. He didnt get the "Lockdown" error and could browse his phone, but not his photos. Which is a strange problem, because it should either work or not work. He's running a beta firmware though, so could be that usbdmux etc need updating to support the new version. Trying to find a spare iphone while I'm in the office | 14:26 |
| seb128 | willcooke, thx for testing, and no it's not "either it works on not", browsing the photos and the "documents" section are different protocols/stacks | 14:27 |
| willcooke | ah | 14:31 |
| willcooke | jibel, didrocks - thank you for the iso testing :) | 14:53 |
| didrocks | yw! | 14:53 |
| jibel | willcooke, tested on hw and vm, no real issue found | 15:09 |
| willcooke | same | 15:11 |
| willcooke | seb128, got an iphone 6 (that's what stef had) and it works | 15:11 |
| willcooke | so I think it's new phones only | 15:11 |
| jibel | quick q, when can a desktop system with autologin enabled be considered up ? | 15:12 |
| willcooke | when the user session dbus service starts? | 15:15 |
| willcooke | we could configure an app to auto start too? | 15:15 |
| jibel | not sure about autostart, it starts very early | 15:20 |
| Laney | like when org.gnome.Shell gets on the bus, or maybe an autostart with X-GNOME-Autostart-Phase=Application? | 15:25 |
| Laney | TFW you do a complex search-replace in vim and it works first time | 16:20 |
| Laney | BAH | 17:05 |
| Laney | I was like "yes, I should do <thing> before uploading glib" | 17:05 |
| Laney | went to get a glass of water, came back, and now I can't remember what <thing> was | 17:06 |
| didrocks | and you forgot about <thing>? | 17:06 |
| didrocks | hehe, typical | 17:06 |
| didrocks | sure it was *very* important | 17:06 |
| didrocks | unsure if you can sleep before resolving this dangling pointer :p | 17:06 |
| willcooke | ha | 17:06 |
| willcooke | 2am: AHAHAH! I remember. I'll do that first thing in the morning... | 17:07 |
| willcooke | 8am: hmmmmmmm | 17:07 |
| Laney | haha | 17:07 |
| Laney | i'm going to sleep with a notebook next to my head | 17:07 |
| Laney | YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS remembered | 17:08 |
| Laney | (breaks on gnome-keyring, upload fixed version) | 17:08 |
| didrocks | time to distract Laney | 17:08 |
| Laney | dunno about putting a breaks on glib though, seems like something that might break upgrade calculation | 17:09 |
| * Laney leaves it for now | 17:09 | |
| === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk | ||
| willcooke | night all | 18:31 |
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