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IrcsomeBot<ericadams> The installer is pretty pretty straightforward. I'd consider myself an experienced user so I am familar with disk partitions and and boot records. I imagine that is where a less experienced user might run into issues. I haven't tried the "install alongside" option to know how well it works. If you have a link to the documentation I could always follow it and report back if I find anything inaccurate of confusing.00:09
mparilloHmm...docs.kubuntu.org refused to connect.00:30
mparilloBut GitHub seems to work: https://github.com/kubuntu-team/kubuntu-manual/blob/kubuntu-18.10/build/latex/KubuntuManual.pdf00:31
mparilloBut nothing about Secure Boot00:32
mparilloReason I ask is that in the USA at least, it is pretty hard to find a refurbished laptop without Win10.00:33
coderphiveWhere is this "IrcsomeBot" broadcasting from?04:44
coderphivemparillo: I'm pretty sure you cannot use SecureBoot with Linux04:45
valoriecoderphive: IrcsomeBot is a service that KDE runs to bridge Telegram groups to IRC channels06:00
coderphiveOh, I forgot about telegram06:01
valorieit's a convenient way to stay in touch with a few chans on my phone06:02
lordievaderGood morning07:40
nekoseamyo09:09
IrcsomeBot1<ericadams> @coderphive, I believe you're correct however Windows 10 will boot if you disable it, at least it does on this Dell Inspiron. I disabled it once a while back and haven't had to change it back.10:55
BluesKajHiyas all11:07
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mobeatsgreetings kde fans16:50
mobeatsquestion - does the kubuntu livecd come with k3b?16:50
mobeatsasking for a friend16:51
eeosHi everybody, I have a Lenovo X` York 2 in 1 with kubuntu 64 bit 18.04.1 LTS17:18
eeosI have problems when I rotate the laptop, and try to read in portarit mode. It doe snot autorotate and if I rotate manually using the System Settings, then the touch screen does not work anymore.17:19
eeosAnyone who has been able to make it work?17:19
jubo2Hello. I'm experiencing weird behavior. Previously KDE Wallet opened up automatically when I logged in to Kubuntu and now it wants a pin code to open up. What I did with the computer in between of this weird change was #1 popped in a new SSD, installed Windows 10 (sorry) and #2 installed Kubuntu 18.04.1 in 5 minutes and #3 removed the new SSD and popped in my old HDD and started Kubuntu and after logging in the KDE wallet asks for pin code (password).18:18
jubo2I did not change a single thing in this old Kubuntu on the old HDD18:18
jubo2My guess would be that the Windows 10 wrote something into some place on the motherboard that causes the KDE Wallet to "think" that it has been "copied" onto a foreign system and therefore wants a pin code to open up (maybe). When I installed the Windows I used the route "I don't have a product key" (since this computer came with a Windows 10 long time ago, that is the right way)18:21
jubo2Trying the pin code I've used for KDE Wallets for ages complained that the pin code is "probably" incorrect.18:22
jubo2Any help would be appreciated. Like for example instructions how to recover the KDE wallet password into something I know _or_ getting it back to opening automatically upon login. Got time, will idle, please help if you have an idea about what the issue is and how to resolve it satisfactorily18:24
jubo2If it weren't for this KDE Wallet problem popping up from "nowhere", I'd be a pretty happy camper: Clean Kubuntu start-up time from GRUB to login screen: 10.8s (and this is an old computer)18:25
jubo2This says that changing the password is not possible if the wallet is closed: https://askubuntu.com/questions/22154/how-to-reset-a-password-from-kwallet18:33
jubo2Which makes perfect sense as that would be a gaping wide security hole18:33
IrcsomeBot1<ericadams> Is there anything valueable in the wallet that you would lose if you create a new one?18:34
IrcsomeBot1<ericadams> For me it's usually jsut wifi passwords18:34
IrcsomeBot1<ericadams> So one time I set a password and forgot it, deleted the wallet, created a new one with no password and had to re-enter a few passwords. If you are using it for more that might be a problem18:35
jubo2ericadams: probably not very much. Chromium was the first to request opening the wallet and after I tried the password I usually set to KDE Wallet (if/when it for some reason wants one) it complained that password is "probably" wrong and then hitting the "cancel"-button on the dialogue asking for password a few times another dialogue popped up asking for me to enter wifi password18:37
jubo2ericadams: I have had to do the #1 delete wallet #2 create a new default wallet #3 enter the few secrets again -route before. Iirc the issue was to do with me copying the entire /home/username directory to another machine with Kubuntu18:39
jubo2If this recollection is correct then this would indicate that KDE Wallet is sensitive to something in the HW (maybe like serial number?) and if one copies the wallet files to a computer with different info in the motherboard it will start to ask for a password18:40
IrcsomeBot1<ericadams> I know it's bad security practice but I can't be bothered to put in the wallet password everytime I connect to WiFi. Pretty sure if you set it to basic security and leave the password blank it won't ask anymore. The latest version of Kubuntu never asked to begin with so maybe they changed that behavior.18:42
jubo2It would be nice to know _why_ it suddenly started asking for a password, which I haven't set iirc. Kind of hard to produce a password you have never made at all18:43
BluesKaj_never used the wallet for anything..I just disable it18:43
jubo2BluesKaj_: How do you store the WiFi-passwords then?18:43
BluesKaj_wifi passwords are stored in Network Connections18:45
jubo2ericadams: I did not change a single thing on this Kubuntu on the old HDD. What I did was to pop out the HDD, put in an SSD and install Windows 10 and Kubuntu 18.04.1 on the SSD and when I put the old HDD in and start up I'm suddenly asked for a password I have never set18:45
BluesKaj_jubo2, depending on the particular network of course18:46
jubo2I read somewhere that Windows writes a copy of some key into somewhere on the motherboard (I came across this info when searching for info on how to get a Windows sorted out that had been activated with some corporate activation thingy that was running out of validity period). So my guess is that the Windows 10 installer is the culprit here18:48
jubo2Windows.. You think you're safe by answering the opposite of the default to all questions it asks (this is actually a good practice when dealing with operating systems made by Microsoft) and then the fffffuuuchsia thing messes up your KDE wallet that it had zero opportunities to touch directly18:52
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g0rgehow we doing folks? i'm going to have to apologize if i start dropping left and right which is why i generally avoid irc on the connection i currently run on...19:42
g0rgei have a question related to X/nvidia/18.10 at the moment19:43
IrcsomeBot1<ericadams> @g0rge, Not sure I can help but I'm running 18.10 on a laptop with hybrid nVidia graphics (GTX 1060 MAX-Q). Running flawlessly which is almost never true in other distros.20:00
g0rge@ircsomebot1 hi there sorry i have connection issues here...20:18
g0rgei installed the new retroarch i think it was...and for some reason my second display has had issues since then...but i dont think its app related20:19
g0rgei run dual screen...with kubuntu...18.10...my system probes a single screen...my nvidia drivers in the settings panel sees two screens20:19
g0rgei can run a single screen just like usual, kde comes up on one screen20:19
g0rgethe second screen...i can run my mouse to it and it tracks my mouse but displays a mouse cursor like a second x server with no defined shell/x session is occuring20:20
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nekoseamany way to make permanently deleting files an option when right clicking something in dolphin?21:57
nekoseamalso is there any way to get rid of the overview of windows when you move your mouse to the top left of your screen?21:59
IrcsomeBot1<ericadams> @nekoseam, Shift plus delete or hold shift when right clicking is permanent delete22:21
IrcsomeBot1<ericadams> @nekoseam, System settings - Desktop Behavior - Screen Edges is where the setting for mouse hot corners is22:22
nekoseamthx22:56
IrcsomeBot1<ericadams> @nekoseam, Of course23:34
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