| didrocks | good morning | 07:18 |
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| seb128 | lut didrocks & good morning desktopers | 07:20 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:27 |
| jibel | Salut didrocks and seb128 | 07:36 |
| jibel | ça va? | 07:36 |
| didrocks | ça va jibel, et toi ? | 07:37 |
| jibel | bien bien | 07:37 |
| bigon | are there any reasons why resolveconf support is disabled in networkmanager pkg in ubuntu? | 07:46 |
| bigon | (bonjour :) | 07:46 |
| bigon | This is (or was) causing issues when resolveconf pkg is installed | 07:51 |
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| willcooke | o/ | 08:57 |
| Trevinho | morning | 08:58 |
| willcooke | hi Trevinho, how are you? | 09:00 |
| willcooke | or more importantly, where are you | 09:00 |
| Laney | yo | 09:04 |
| willcooke | morning Laney, how goes? I thought of you yesterday when I was in a lift. There was an advert for a "Month by month allotment" book :) | 09:05 |
| Laney | :D indeed I do have one of those | 09:06 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 09:07 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke trevinho Laney | 09:07 |
| willcooke | g'mornin' seb128 | 09:08 |
| Laney | https://www.allotment-garden.org/book/vegetable-growing-month-by-month/ that one | 09:08 |
| willcooke | It was this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Allotment-Month-Grow-Fruit-Vegetables/dp/0241360005/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1549530550&sr=8-2&keywords=allotment+month | 09:09 |
| Laney | yo seb128 | 09:09 |
| Laney | what's up? | 09:09 |
| willcooke | only 7.99 | 09:09 |
| seb128 | bigon, hey, p_itti turned it off in 2016 in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/1.4.2-2ubuntu4 unsure if the reason still stands though | 09:09 |
| seb128 | "Disable resolvconf support. | 09:09 |
| seb128 | This is broken with DNS plugins other than "dnsmasq" -- it still writes | 09:09 |
| seb128 | 127.0.1.1 into resolvconf as a nameserver, but this does not exist any more and | 09:09 |
| seb128 | will also shadow resolved's stub server on 127.0.0.53." | 09:09 |
| willcooke | seb128, could that be related to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1778946 | 09:10 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1778946 in ppp (Ubuntu) "No dns resolution after closing a vpn/pptp connection" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:10 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I guess it 'could' but I don't think it's likely to be related | 09:11 |
| willcooke | nod | 09:11 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke, Trevinho, Laney | 09:14 |
| willcooke | morning didrocks | 09:15 |
| seb128 | jbicha, you are dealing with the e-d-s and gnome-desktop3 build issues I guess? | 09:30 |
| jibel | jbicha, hi, you updated simple-scan 3.31.90-0ubuntu1 on Disco and it is now crashing on start. Could you have a look? | 09:36 |
| jibel | unfortunately the crash fails to retrace | 09:36 |
| jibel | https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/b48e52e2aafbdca0b27c2b4ca65d4e8405a6c99f | 09:37 |
| seb128 | jbicha, bug #1815025 also | 09:56 |
| ubot5 | bug 1815025 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus 3.31.90 : missing dependancies (Tracker)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815025 | 09:56 |
| seb128 | "Nautilus 3.31.90 does not start without Tracker." | 09:56 |
| Trevinho | oh willcooke sorry, didn't see it, was already in mutter lands :) | 09:56 |
| willcooke | :D | 09:56 |
| Trevinho | but physically I am in Sicily | 09:56 |
| Trevinho | I just went closer to Malta in between things :) | 09:57 |
| bigon | seb128: because a some times ago (2017?) removing resolvconf from the laptop of a coleague fixed dns issues with vpn. I'm asking again because I see somebody complaining on twitter about this | 09:57 |
| Laney | thx seb128, I was just going to file that :> | 09:58 |
| Laney | (org.gnome.Nautilus:7838): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: 09:58:20.612: Settings schema 'org.freedesktop.Tracker.Miner.Files' is not installed | 09:58 |
| Laney | hey didrocks too, sorry got distracted | 09:59 |
| didrocks | nw! | 09:59 |
| andyrock | good morning! | 10:03 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock, how are you? | 10:05 |
| andyrock | hey seb128, good! I'm back to London. In the office atm | 10:06 |
| andyrock | yesterday eurostar decided to move my train one hour before without notifying me :) | 10:06 |
| didrocks | got that 3 years ago | 10:07 |
| didrocks | welcome to the team! | 10:07 |
| didrocks | (was a TGV though) | 10:08 |
| jbicha | seb128: eds was just launchpad having trouble last night but yes I'm handling that transition | 10:16 |
| seb128 | jbicha, k, I saw that the armhf build was also missing in Debian so I though there might be an issue on that arch | 10:17 |
| jbicha | the nautilus problem is because people aren't installing recommends so I'll make it a depends :| | 10:18 |
| Laney | it should be a dependency if the application fails to start without it | 10:20 |
| jbicha | I agree, I'm just explaining why I didn't see it before uploading | 10:20 |
| Laney | ok then | 10:21 |
| Laney | I don't disable recommends, so I wonder why I ended up without it | 10:21 |
| seb128 | you maybe installed the nautilus which added that recommends by some way that doesn't pull recommends in | 10:22 |
| seb128 | ? | 10:22 |
| seb128 | like dpkg -i from local builds when you worked on 3.30 | 10:22 |
| jbicha | specifically it's nautilus D> tracker R> tracker-miner-fs D> tracker-extract so I'll just add have nautilus depend on either tracke-miner-fs or tracker-extract | 10:22 |
| seb128 | or apt isn't installing those in all cases | 10:22 |
| Laney | dunno | 10:23 |
| jbicha | I guess we'll do tracker-miner-fs to make it more likely that all the important tracker parts will be installed | 10:25 |
| Laney | sudo apt install --fix-policy --install-recommends | 10:26 |
| Laney | that gets quite a few things here :-o | 10:26 |
| jbicha | jibel: robert_ancell is upstream for simple scan so maybe ping him? simple-scan runs fine for me here but I don't have a scanner. Does it crash for you? | 10:32 |
| seb128 | there is also a report upstream from someone who tried to build/start the current version on bionic and it fails to start too | 10:34 |
| jibel | jbicha, yes it crashes | 10:36 |
| jibel | I'm wondering if it's because some libs are stuck in proposed | 10:37 |
| jbicha | I don't think I have proposed libs installed here really | 10:38 |
| jibel | it doesn't crash if a scanner is not attached | 10:39 |
| seb128 | jibel, can you get a backtrace? | 10:40 |
| jbicha | 🤣 | 10:40 |
| jibel | seb128, no, it fails to retrace | 10:40 |
| seb128 | jibel, use gdb luke | 10:40 |
| jibel | saying I've out of date libs but the system is fully up to date | 10:41 |
| jbicha | I've never heard of --fix-policy, is that even documented? | 10:45 |
| Laney | dunno how I know it | 10:46 |
| Laney | does it work without? maybe it's some ancient thing I think is required but isn't | 10:47 |
| seb128 | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=578020 | 10:48 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 578020 in apt "apt-get: --fix-policy not documented" [Wishlist,Open] | 10:48 |
| Laney | that d-d-a post is probably where I learned the command | 10:49 |
| jbicha | btw we have a new strict confinement simple-scan snap in the candidate channel that needs verification | 11:10 |
| seb128 | jbicha, btw the deb hits an invalid read in code that didn't change in ages, it's not impossible that it could be a vala bug | 11:21 |
| seb128 | Robert should have a look I guess | 11:21 |
| willcooke | I think one of the reasons that simple scan was classic was so that it could pick up firmware | 11:25 |
| willcooke | but that might have been fixed | 11:25 |
| jbicha | didrocks: do you want to do your gnome-shell upload for the evolution-data-server transition? | 11:36 |
| willcooke | I thought my ketle was broken, but luckily it's just the light | 12:00 |
| willcooke | kettle | 12:00 |
| Nafallo | willcooke: I think broken light counts, right? ;-) | 12:01 |
| willcooke | It makes the water hot for tea. That's all that really matters :) | 12:02 |
| jbicha | seb128: we need a bug subscriber for libnfs LP: #1746598 and I'm wondering whether it's ok to sync gvfs now or if the MIR needs more work first | 12:02 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1746598 in libnfs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libnfs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746598 | 12:02 |
| seb128 | jbicha, @subscribe, done | 12:05 |
| seb128 | jbicha, "- It has dozens of tests, but I didn't see any of them be called during build" ... I wonder if that should be resolved before promoting | 12:05 |
| jbicha | the bug description says we use autopkgtests? so I filed Debian bug 921578 | 12:06 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 921578 in src:libnfs "libnfs: autopkgtest failures on Ubuntu" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/921578 | 12:06 |
| jbicha | there is a patch to skip some tests so maybe it just needs extending but I thought I'd rather have the maintainer decide on that | 12:07 |
| seb128 | ah, right | 12:07 |
| seb128 | but yeah, if the autopkgtest are failing it's not nice | 12:07 |
| ricotz | oh, the shrinking terminal window bug is back | 12:42 |
| ricotz | jbicha, is there a report for the simple-scan crash? | 12:45 |
| jbicha | ricotz: does the terminal bug go away if you use gsettings set org.gnome.Terminal.Legacy.Settings headerbar false and then restart your terminal? | 12:52 |
| ricotz | jbicha, can't this on this machine, will try on another one | 12:54 |
| jbicha | I guess https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/simple-scan/issues/88 | 12:54 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue 88 in simple-scan "[+6,59s] CRITICAL: g_object_ref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed" [Opened] | 12:54 |
| ricotz | I see, not that useful without a trace | 12:55 |
| jbicha | jibel: ^ | 12:59 |
| ricotz | nice, a typo (missing ">") in the german translation of simple-scane | 13:03 |
| ricotz | leading to gtk criticals | 13:03 |
| ricotz | jbicha, without using the headerbar it doesn't shrink | 13:15 |
| jbicha | ricotz: could you report that upstream? note that upstream doesn't enable the headerbar by default (I imagine most distros will override that), fmuellner was the one who implemented it | 13:18 |
| jbicha | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-terminal/issues/44 | 13:18 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue 44 in gnome-terminal "Implement header bar" [Opened] | 13:18 |
| ricotz | jbicha, I attached a backtrace for the simple-scan crash | 13:19 |
| didrocks | jbicha: Trevinho is handling the update, it's complex and can break d2d | 13:23 |
| jbicha | didrocks: I wasn't talking about 3.31.90, I was talking about your unreleased changes in https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell | 13:25 |
| jbicha | yes I'm aware that he is handling mutter/gnome-shell 3.31 | 13:26 |
| didrocks | jbicha: if you tested with new e-d-s, feel free to upload, the patches changes I made are fine | 13:32 |
| jbicha | ok, thanks | 13:32 |
| ricotz | jbicha, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/simple-scan/issues/79 | 13:57 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue 79 in simple-scan "Segfault after scanner detection" [Opened] | 13:57 |
| jbicha | thank you | 13:58 |
| Laney | ricotz: that loop is different from just copying the list? where does the copy happen? | 14:45 |
| Laney | of the device I mean | 14:46 |
| ricotz | Laney, the copy/ref is handled by vala while the element of the list are owned | 14:47 |
| Laney | k, I don't find it that obvious when reading that code | 14:48 |
| Laney | but thanks :> | 14:48 |
| ricotz | unfortunately there is no syntax to access the copy/ref function to pass it to e.g. copy_deep | 14:48 |
| Laney | what's up with prepend/reverse? | 14:49 |
| ricotz | it is faster than append | 14:50 |
| ricotz | but I guess it doesnt matter for such a short list | 14:50 |
| Laney | you can keep track of the end of the list to append to | 14:54 |
| Laney | anyway, micro nitpicking :P | 14:54 |
| mpt | andyrock, hi, I updated the Livepatch design with the offline behaviour and other details. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates?action=diff&rev2=229&rev1=228> | 16:19 |
| andyrock | mpt: thx | 16:19 |
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| jbicha | seb128: bug subscriber for gsound LP: #1815095 please, needed for gnome-control-center | 17:01 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1815095 in gsound (Ubuntu) "[MIR] gsound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815095 | 17:01 |
| jbicha | that dependency addition landed yesterday! but it's a small library so hopefully won't be too much of a problem | 17:02 |
| jbicha | also, the gnome-remote-desktop and pipewire MIRs need bug subscribers, but those MIRs may take a while | 17:07 |
| kenvandine | anyone available to help debug a gtk build failure in my build snap? | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/409920345/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_bionic_i386_gnome-3-28-1804-sdk-master_BUILDING.txt.gz | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | i've disabled parallel builds and had the same results | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | so not that | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | if i drop to a shell in multipass after it fails and run make in parts/gtk/build it builds fine | 17:33 |
| kenvandine | Laney: ^^ maybe you have ideas? | 17:33 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: can you post your yaml link? | 17:34 |
| kenvandine | https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-3-28-1804-sdk/blob/master/snapcraft.yaml#L299 | 17:35 |
| Laney | kenvandine: not sure, but signal 11 is a segfaul | 17:42 |
| Laney | e | 17:43 |
| Laney | t | 17:43 |
| Laney | did anything get updated? | 17:43 |
| kenvandine | it has been failing since early january | 17:43 |
| kenvandine | not sure what's changed | 17:43 |
| Laney | can you get a bt? | 17:44 |
| kenvandine | it only fails inside of snapcraft though | 17:44 |
| kenvandine | i don't think so | 17:44 |
| kenvandine | if i drop to a shell and run make it builds :/ | 17:44 |
| kenvandine | only fails in the snapcraft build | 17:44 |
| Laney | maybe install systemd-coredump or something and see if coredumpctl gets it? | 17:45 |
| kenvandine | a royal pita to debug | 17:45 |
| kenvandine | ok, i'll add that as a build package | 17:45 |
| Laney | dunno if that'll work | 17:45 |
| kenvandine | i can't think of any other way to get it in there | 17:46 |
| seb128 | jbicha, k for gsound | 17:56 |
| seb128 | jbicha, let me think about the pipewire one, I don't think we know much about that component and on if we want to maintain it, though I guess we will have to at some point | 17:57 |
| jbicha | I understand. I only mentioned it today since I was mentioning the other MIR bugs | 17:59 |
| seb128 | k | 18:01 |
| seb128 | @gsound done | 18:01 |
| seb128 | btw do you know about the boost option from didrocks if that's in, if not maybe ask Robert to rewrite that patch since he did the panel refactoring :) | 18:01 |
| jbicha | oh, that's not in, it's a very simple sound panel | 18:05 |
| jbicha | simpler than I expected | 18:05 |
| jbicha | https://bicha.net/i/gnome-control-center-3-31-90-sound.png | 18:07 |
| didrocks | especially as there was some design from aday at the time | 18:14 |
| didrocks | for the boost | 18:14 |
| didrocks | I don't think we should regress in uploading without it | 18:14 |
| seb128 | jbicha, k, well please don't upload the new version without that patch, get Robert to fix it if needed | 19:12 |
| jbicha | sure | 19:15 |
| willcooke | night all. See you in Malta | 19:20 |
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