| sil2100 | o/ | 16:00 |
|---|---|---|
| * vorlon waves | 16:00 | |
| juliank | o/ | 16:00 |
| vorlon | #startmeeting | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Feb 7 16:01:10 2019 UTC. The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:01 |
| vorlon | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 16:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
| vorlon | $ echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform) | 16:01 |
| vorlon | juliank xnox rbalint vorlon infinity mwhudson waveform cyphermox doko bdmurray sil2100 tdaitx | 16:01 |
| juliank | * apt work | 16:01 |
| juliank | I think that's it | 16:01 |
| xnox | skip | 16:01 |
| vorlon | heh :) | 16:01 |
| vorlon | rbalint: | 16:02 |
| rbalint | * released livecd-rootfs merging multiple fixes including fixing mount with latest util-linux | 16:02 |
| rbalint | * many unattended-upgrades 16.04 SRU verifications finding a few incomplete fixes | 16:02 |
| rbalint | * partner meeting | 16:02 |
| rbalint | * trying to reproduce resurfacing LP: #1766217, with no luck yet | 16:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1766217 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "software updater presents an empty panel for updating" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1766217 | 16:02 |
| rbalint | * gardening unattended-upgrades bugs and playing with pinning support | 16:02 |
| rbalint | (done) | 16:02 |
| juliank | rbalint: does it work? :D | 16:02 |
| rbalint | juliank, it seems so but i'm preparing a mr for apt to use -32767 for never | 16:03 |
| bdmurray | vorlon: | 16:03 |
| vorlon | * MP raised for LP: #564853, to fix spurious ucf prompts in grub | 16:03 |
| vorlon | * proposed-migration | 16:03 |
| vorlon | * discussions around MySQL 8.0 OpenSSL linkage | 16:03 |
| vorlon | * discussions around OpenJDK 11 in bionic | 16:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 564853 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Spurious conffile prompts for /etc/default/grub" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564853 | 16:04 |
| vorlon | (done) | 16:04 |
| vorlon | waveform: | 16:04 |
| bdmurray | no Adam? | 16:04 |
| rbalint | vorlon, \o/ for the grub fix | 16:04 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: evidently not | 16:04 |
| waveform | * validating upgrades to current bionic from beta on various Pi models; identified a few issues that need dealing with | 16:04 |
| waveform | * patched u-boot to deal with one aforementioned upgrade issue | 16:04 |
| waveform | * tested core16 and core18 images on CM3; awaiting delivery of CM3+ for further testing | 16:04 |
| waveform | * wiringpi nearly complete (now builds on PPA and result works, but one final warning to squash) | 16:04 |
| waveform | * RPi.GPIO package accepted so GPIO via Python should now be possible on arm64 | 16:04 |
| waveform | * investigated systemd "degraded" state of arm64 Pi image on boot; network-wait and kernel-modules to blame | 16:04 |
| waveform | (done) | 16:04 |
| bdmurray | cyphermox: | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | SHIM review: CentOS, SuSE. | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | MIR reviews: gnome-remote-desktop, pipewire | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | e2fsprogs: SRU verification for bug 1798562 | 16:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1798562 in e2fsprogs (Ubuntu) "After a side by side installation, resized filesystem is corrupted" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798562 | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | grub2 SRUs: | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | - bug 1814575: fix "db is empty" on Lenovos when checking signatures for kernels (cosmic, bionic) | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | - bug 1814403: land vorlon's fix for quick-boot-lvm detecting efi status (cosmic, bionic) | 16:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1814575 in grub2-signed (Ubuntu) "Updates failing because "db is empty"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814575 | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | - bionic: bug LP: #1401532: disabling fallback to unsigned. in unapproved until post-pointrelease | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | partman-efi/ubiquity: early detection for missing ESP (SRU verification for bug LP: #1803031) | 16:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1814403 in grub2 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Latest update causes 30 sec. menu delay timeout" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814403 | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | dkms+shim-signed: currently verifying SRUs for xenial, trusty | 16:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1401532 in grub2-signed (Ubuntu Bionic) "GRUB's Secure Boot implementation loads unsigned kernel without warning" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1401532 | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | scratching my head about other shim reviews. | 16:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1803031 in grub-installer (Ubuntu) "error: cannot find EFI directory." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1803031 | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | (done) | 16:05 |
| doko | - FOSDEM and OpenJDK committers workshop | 16:05 |
| doko | - OpenJDK 12 build 31 | 16:05 |
| doko | - GCC 9 packages in -proposed, updating GCC 8 not to build the common packages | 16:05 |
| doko | - binutils 2.32 | 16:05 |
| doko | - IBMz performance call | 16:05 |
| doko | - OpenJDK-11 update calls | 16:05 |
| doko | - finished the ftbfs regression spreadsheet for OpenSSL/OpenJDK/GCC/Python | 16:05 |
| doko | - preparing SRU's for the planned bionic GCC 7.4 update | 16:05 |
| vorlon | oh yes, I guess I did other grub stuff this week too, didn't I ;) | 16:05 |
| doko | (done) | 16:05 |
| xnox | i can go too, i think | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | xnox: I'll wait for you | 16:05 |
| xnox | * FOSDEM | 16:06 |
| xnox | - sent report | 16:06 |
| xnox | - did resolved talk | 16:06 |
| xnox | - "fixed" snapd/systemd/no /usr/local in PATH in bionic | 16:06 |
| xnox | - turns out we ship and use /usr/local a lot in production | 16:06 |
| xnox | * systemd v240 migrated \o/ | 16:06 |
| xnox | * working on OpenSSL SRU fixing up leaf packages | 16:06 |
| xnox | (end) | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | had MP merged regarding migration of the ET mojo spec to use autocert | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | worked w/ webops regarding getting ET mojo spec to pass in jenkins w/ autocert | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | submitted RT regarding setting up dev ops env for geonames mojo spec | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | wrote blog post regarding whoopsie OOPS ID and .uploaded file | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | fixed apport bug 1658188 harder (missed something 2 years ago) | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | uploaded 18.04 SRU for apport bug LP: #1766337 | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | reported debian bug 921581 regarding distro-info | 16:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1658188 in apport (Ubuntu Xenial) "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:TypeError:/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk@597:run_argv:run_crashes" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1658188 | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | reported distro-info-data bug LP: #1814976 re eol-server dates | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1766337 in apport (Ubuntu Bionic) "uncaught python exception : UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte; invalid continuation byte" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1766337 | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 921581 in distro-info "Typo in error message regarding csv format" [Minor,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/921581 | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1814976 in distro-info-data (Ubuntu) "eol-server dates are empty for current releases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814976 | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | submitted (merged) PR re KPI for proposed migration by team | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | created graph for the KPI for proposed migration by team | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | uploaded python-apt w/ updated mirrors lists for Ubuntu 18.04.2 | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | tested various installers of Ubuntu on an Intel NUC | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | ✔ done | 16:06 |
| sil2100 | - SRU reviews and releases | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | - Kernel releases | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | - Weekend snapd regression, reviewing and releasing the SRU | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | - Updating the crisis document | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | - 18.04.2: | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | * Clean up of old unverified langpacks | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | * Preparing the .2 changelog on wiki | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | * Creating, verifying and sending the pi3 arm64 core18 model assertion to the store | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | * Adding changes to livecd-rootfs for building core18 arm64 images | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | * Adding pi3-arm64 to cdimage | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | * Coordinating stable snap releases for .2 | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | - Testing ubuntu-image 1.6 snap for stable promotion | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | - raspi3 classic: | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | * Sponsoring various bugfix uploads for Dave | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | * Investigating ways to deal with raspi3-firmware and config.txt upgrades | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | - Changed core18 snap-rebuild script to only rebuild core18 if ubuntu-base package contents change | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | - Started work on old-releases-archival helper tool for cdimage | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | - Drafted some work on core18 promotion script | 16:07 |
| sil2100 | (done) | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | Short week: half-days last week, openjdk workshop on Monday | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | * openjdk-11 transition | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | - new ppas with -security only deps | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | - cherry-picking package versions to backport | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | - testing gradle/groovy toolchains with openjdk-lts and -security only | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | - re-checking rebuilds; number packages: | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | * 65 disco, 172 bionic, 262 from test-bionic | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | * limited to packages listed in openjdk-11 SRU exception/FFe request | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | - openjdk 11 transition meetings | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | Other: | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | * off next week in Malta, will drop in for some transition work | 16:07 |
| tdaitx | * fighting off the fosdem flu | 16:08 |
| tdaitx | (done) | 16:08 |
| doko | tdaitx: where is this list about the rebuilds? | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | vorlon: Where is this grub2/ucf MP? | 16:08 |
| * cjwatson fails to find it on https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/+activereviews | 16:09 | |
| cyphermox | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/grub/+git/ubuntu/+merge/362869 | 16:09 |
| tdaitx | doko: grepping through the newer csv files, filtering through failures, and matching according the the packages we asked for exception | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | nack :P | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | (thanks) | 16:09 |
| vorlon | cjwatson: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/grub/+git/ubuntu/+merge/362869 | 16:10 |
| vorlon | ah | 16:10 |
| cyphermox | nak again, I guess | 16:10 |
| cyphermox | I'm thinking this was a TCP exchange rather than a review | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | Yes, I already fixed this in Debian with much thought, you should just cherry-pick | 16:10 |
| xnox | i squinted at it | 16:10 |
| vorlon | ah | 16:10 |
| tdaitx | doko: I just counted how many packages, still going through the list for each rebuild, don't necessarily mean they are openjdk related | 16:10 |
| doko | tdaitx: please update the spreadsheet | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | I'm fairly certain that MP will make matters even more confusing :) | 16:11 |
| vorlon | anything else re: status? | 16:12 |
| cyphermox | I was kind of inching towards not merging these things at all if it could be avoided | 16:12 |
| cyphermox | ie. we write the config once, and if you're unhappy about timeout, well, change it | 16:12 |
| vorlon | cyphermox: nack :P | 16:12 |
| cyphermox | (at least as far as timeout is involved, other things might need merging) | 16:13 |
| vorlon | well, timeout perhaps | 16:13 |
| vorlon | but it's not timeout that prompted the server team's attention | 16:13 |
| cyphermox | timeout is currently THE thing that comes from debconf :) | 16:13 |
| cyphermox | no, I know | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | I'm pretty sure that https://salsa.debian.org/grub-team/grub/commit/e4e7c3fae0fe7682f4c1215daeb6830716eb1b58 is correct; I spent a couple of days going over every case I could think of and verifying behaviour. | 16:13 |
| cyphermox | but my point is like that, you essentially write /etc/default/grub once, and not touch it again | 16:13 |
| vorlon | yeah, nack | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | Please can you just resync with Debian because the divergence is getting out of hand? | 16:13 |
| cyphermox | cjwatson: yes | 16:14 |
| vorlon | [TOPIC] Bugs | 16:15 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs | ||
| vorlon | bdmurray: | 16:15 |
| bdmurray | should we target bug 1814109? | 16:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1814109 in libarchive (Ubuntu) "Nautilus corrupts 7z archive files when extracting via 'Extract here' context menu" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814109 | 16:15 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: seems like an upstream issue that we're unlikely to fix ourselves, but might as well target it | 16:17 |
| bdmurray | okay, doing so | 16:17 |
| bdmurray | I ran across bug 1797335 again, does anybody know the status of it? | 16:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1797335 in glibc (Ubuntu) "strstr() on ubuntu18.04 8 times slower than on ubuntu16" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797335 | 16:18 |
| doko | well, I think we are waiting on the glibc SRU ... | 16:19 |
| xnox | that's in proposed now, no? | 16:20 |
| sil2100 | I think that one's in -proposed already | 16:20 |
| vorlon | infinity might know | 16:20 |
| xnox | STS/SEG uploaded, no? | 16:20 |
| sil2100 | It is | 16:20 |
| sil2100 | Along with binutils | 16:20 |
| vorlon | there is a glibc SRU in flight AIUI | 16:20 |
| bdmurray | So the bug didn't get referenced then? | 16:20 |
| sil2100 | It's full of ADT regressions though, hope someone tracks those | 16:20 |
| bdmurray | Okay, I'll dig into it. | 16:20 |
| vorlon | but that bug lacks an SRU template, so | 16:20 |
| xnox | hmmm | 16:20 |
| xnox | it has https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1663280 referenced | 16:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1663280 in glibc (Ubuntu Xenial) "Serious performance degradation of math functions" [High,Fix committed] | 16:20 |
| xnox | so maybe that's something else, no?! | 16:21 |
| sil2100 | Oh | 16:21 |
| xnox | or under referenced? | 16:21 |
| xnox | or a duplicated, no? | 16:21 |
| xnox | it's different | 16:21 |
| xnox | but similar | 16:21 |
| bdmurray | Okay, thanks | 16:22 |
| vorlon | similifferent | 16:22 |
| sil2100 | Indeed, ugh | 16:22 |
| bdmurray | That's it for rls- stuff. I tested bug 1805027 again w/ the systemd SRU and it seems fine to me. | 16:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1805027 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-resolved can't resolve Comcast mail server addresses" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1805027 | 16:22 |
| * sil2100 needs to actually open the bugs before commenting on them | 16:22 | |
| bdmurray | Should I just mark it as a duplicate of bug 1811471? | 16:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1811471 in systemd "local resolver stub fails to handle multiple TCP dns queries" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1811471 | 16:22 |
| xnox | if that's fixed now, yes | 16:23 |
| xnox | it should be, i think | 16:23 |
| vorlon | do we need to hurry through publication of a systemd SRU then before it gets stomped on by security? | 16:23 |
| xnox | and SRUs are done across the board | 16:23 |
| bdmurray | Well none of the original reporters have said anything... | 16:23 |
| xnox | vorlon, all systemd srus are published | 16:23 |
| vorlon | xnox: ok. any more pending? :) | 16:23 |
| bdmurray | that's it for me | 16:25 |
| vorlon | [TOPIC] proposed-migration | 16:25 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: proposed-migration | ||
| vorlon | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 16:25 |
| vorlon | doko: ? | 16:25 |
| xnox | so like | 16:26 |
| xnox | vorlon, bdmurray - not sure why SEG/STS did not upload https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/systemd/+bug/1755863 | 16:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1755863 in systemd (Ubuntu Cosmic) "netbooting the bionic live CD over NFS goes straight to maintenance mode :" [Medium,In progress] | 16:26 |
| xnox | or should we, for the point release | 16:26 |
| xnox | as that fixes the ubiquity NFS installer | 16:26 |
| xnox | ddstreet, ^ | 16:26 |
| vorlon | the ubiquity nfs installer that we don't support? | 16:26 |
| gaughen | no more bugs for point release | 16:27 |
| gaughen | bug fixes, that is | 16:27 |
| bdmurray | bugs or fixes? | 16:27 |
| gaughen | no bug fixes which may lead to bugs | 16:29 |
| gaughen | and no bugs too | 16:29 |
| vorlon | doko: do you think we need to discuss the packages currently in? the list of blocked packages is fairly short, and I understand the causes of each | 16:29 |
| vorlon | I don't know what we're doing about the failing kernel package autopkgtests | 16:30 |
| gaughen | vorlon, I think the only one is pillow/libimagequant0 | 16:30 |
| xnox | i did raise that question with the kernel team | 16:30 |
| vorlon | gaughen: that's an MIR waiting for security review | 16:30 |
| xnox | i believe we overtrigger tests | 16:30 |
| vorlon | xnox: disagree; we deliberately care to know if the toolchain regresses the kernel | 16:30 |
| xnox | because their test-suite runtime dependencies, are not in indication that runtime packages are regressing the new kernel | 16:30 |
| gaughen | kewl | 16:30 |
| vorlon | but the autopkgtests do not give good signal and I don't know who's owning this | 16:31 |
| xnox | vorlon, sure, but we don't care about running their java testsuite and seeing regression of those, upon non-toolchain uploads. | 16:31 |
| vorlon | overtriggering should not be a problem if the tests are good tests | 16:31 |
| xnox | the tests are good, but always run from -proposed | 16:31 |
| xnox | so we never have good SRU migration signals either. | 16:31 |
| vorlon | right, so to me that's not good | 16:31 |
| vorlon | so do we need to get the kernel team to fix the tests to skip based on the triggers listed in the environment? | 16:32 |
| vorlon | [ACTION] vorlon to follow up w/ apw | 16:34 |
| meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to follow up w/ apw | 16:34 |
| vorlon | [ACTION] vorlon to follow up w/ apw about kernel autopkgtests blocking the world | 16:34 |
| meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to follow up w/ apw about kernel autopkgtests blocking the world | 16:34 |
| xnox | vorlon, let me forward you on the email thread i had with kernel-team | 16:34 |
| doko | vorlon: no, nothing important now | 16:35 |
| vorlon | ok | 16:35 |
| vorlon | [TOPIC] AOBB | 16:35 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOBB | ||
| vorlon | [TOPIC] AOB | 16:35 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| vorlon | anything else? | 16:35 |
| gaughen | vorlon, doko reached out to apw, let me rope you in | 16:35 |
| vorlon | doesn't sound like there's anything else | 16:40 |
| vorlon | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | <wxl> be nice | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Feb 7 16:40:47 2019 UTC. | 16:40 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-02-07-16.01.moin.txt | 16:40 |
| vorlon | thanks, all! | 16:41 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 16:43 |
| vorlon | cjwatson: peeked at your approach to the ucf change; AIUI the result of this is that if the user has tried to dpkg-reconfigure and change a setting through debconf, the new value will be ignored | 17:11 |
| cjwatson | vorlon: do feel free to send me a test script (informal or otherwise) that exercises this | 17:12 |
| * vorlon nods | 17:12 | |
| cjwatson | vorlon: I thought I tested that case though | 17:13 |
| vorlon | ICBW, I haven't tested yet and am only looking at the code | 17:13 |
| vorlon | but yes, I'll test and follow up | 17:13 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 17:14 |
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