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OvenWerksEickmeyer: just playing with -installer here. using -s seems to work for me with no other change even for an application I have installed and removed02:37
OvenWerksnot permanently removed (though that works too)02:38
EickmeyerOvenWerks: Cool. If you think it's solid enough, that works.02:38
EickmeyerOn my end, falktx and I got Carla and all of its subpackages building perfectly. Working on packaging, then off to sponsorship.02:39
OvenWerkswith wine?02:39
EickmeyerYep.02:39
OvenWerks\o/02:39
OvenWerksin other news there is now an aes67 ALSA driver available.02:40
EickmeyerInteresting. I know Midas has AES50, so is this an iteration of that?02:41
OvenWerksno02:41
OvenWerksaudio over ethernet02:41
OvenWerksI think it is ip02:42
EickmeyerAES50 is that, too, just proprietary to Midas/Behringer.02:42
OvenWerksaes50 is not proprietary if it is aes anything02:42
OvenWerksbut it does not live well with switches so far as I know02:43
OvenWerksaes67 is similar to avb but one level up and does not require special switches. It can connect to Dante devices with the aes upgrade02:44
OvenWerksI thought I had the aes50 paper sitting around here but I don't seem to02:47
EickmeyerEither way, AES67 sounds so much better.02:57
OvenWerksI have to find out if it gives a udev message02:57
OvenWerksactually, I pretty much need to have an endpoint to play with to see how the driver behaves02:59
OvenWerks(two would be better)02:59
OvenWerksI don't know if the alsa device is available before the user has set it up.02:59
OvenWerksI think that if the ALSA device is available right away that it should not be opened until it is set up.03:01
OvenWerksI think once an alsa device has been opened it is not possible to change the number of audio channels it has for example03:02
OvenWerksif you have two devices the one aes67 device in alsa would be the agrigate of the two phisical devices03:03
OvenWerksEickmeyer: anyway, -installer is qued to build. See if you can test it in ways I can't.03:04
OvenWerksIf it doesn't work for you, I will add some debug statements and we can try again.03:05
OvenWerksI did experience it not working after installing and removing an application and then it did work after the change.03:06
EickmeyerOvenWerks: I'll try it out. Right now, it seems as if LP's build farm is incredibly backed-up.03:06
OvenWerks40 min03:06
EickmeyerYeah. I've had Carla sitting on 40 minutes the past two hours. I think something is stuck.03:06
OvenWerksI was about to say the 40 min does not seem to change03:07
OvenWerksI thinkt I have done my work for the day...03:07
EickmeyerYeah, same. I bet when the Canonical folks wake up and see what's going on there'll be some stuff moving through.03:08
EickmeyerOoof... two weeks from Feature Freeze.17:16
Eickmeyerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule17:16
OvenWerksEickmeyer: just get the packages we have been working on released and that would already be a big step20:32
EickmeyerYeah, that's what I'm thinking, but I'm this || close to having Carla ready for Autobuilds.20:33
EickmeyerTesting Installer as we speak, looking good so far.20:34
EickmeyerCarla will be 1.9.13 which is 2.0-RC3. He might have an actual release, but he gave himself an end-of-March deadline, so I don't think that's going to make it.20:36
EickmeyerWe might have to keep Patchage with Carla, and have Carla there for testing purposes, with the official 2.0 release in 19.10 replacing Patchage.20:37
OvenWerksEickmeyer: we should add Carla to the installer if it is at least in the autobuilds20:39
EickmeyerI was thinking of the seed along with -audio.20:39
OvenWerksEickmeyer: I am thinking we could add a button ti installer that adds/removes the autobuilds ppa20:40
EickmeyerNot a bad idea, but I think it should be a backports ppa at that point.20:42
EickmeyerSimilar to Kubuntu's backports.20:42
OvenWerkssure, the actual ppa is not as important, but one that has the "right" name is best  ;)20:42
EickmeyerYes. Backports is less likely to scare people like our testing ppa "autobuilds" does. It would be as simple as making a separate PPA with manually-triggered recipes.20:43
OvenWerksright20:44
EickmeyerBy the way, -installer's changes look good per my tests.20:45
OvenWerksIt would be nice if the relogin dialog only showed up when needed20:47
OvenWerksprobably all I need to do is see if the user is in the audio group.20:48
EickmeyerSo, the ppa would be "ppa:ubuntustudio-ppa/backports".20:54
EickmeyerI'm working on the builds now.20:54
EickmeyerOvenWerks: Yeah, that's a good idea.20:55
OvenWerksI guess I need to add an add backports button...20:55
EickmeyerRight now, I have it for Cosmic and Bionic, and I'll activate for Disco after feature freeze.21:01
EickmeyerAnd like that, we have a backports PPA.21:11
Eickmeyer(OMG, what have we done...!) XD21:11
EickmeyerI could only get the PPA to work for amd64.21:20
EickmeyerThat's frustrating.21:20
EickmeyerHad i386 checked and everything.21:20
OvenWerksEickmeyer: which package?21:24
EickmeyerAll of them.21:24
OvenWerksdo any of them have binaries?21:24
EickmeyerNope.21:24
OvenWerksThats why21:25
EickmeyerOhhhhhh...21:25
OvenWerkswhich ppa?21:25
Eickmeyerubuntustudio-ppa/backports21:25
EickmeyerI guess if the arch is all, it doesn't matter.21:25
OvenWerkswhere do I find that?21:26
Eickmeyerhttp://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-ppa/backports21:26
EickmeyerOops, ignore that21:27
Eickmeyerhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/21:27
EickmeyerI'm hoping that if I, say, backport Carla that the i386 portions would get built since 32-bit VSTs (which are most common) would need the 32-bit bridges, both wine and otherwise.21:28
OvenWerksWait and see what the .deb looks like when published21:28
EickmeyerRight.21:28
OvenWerksYa, they say _all.deb21:38
OvenWerksso good for 32 bit21:38
OvenWerks(and arm)21:40
EickmeyerYay21:40
EickmeyerOvenWerks: BTW, added Ross to the core team because... well, why the heck wasn't he already??? lol21:46
OvenWerksno problem.21:46
OvenWerksSo long as he is ok with it.21:46
EickmeyerI'm sure he will be. If he's not, he can remove himself.21:47
EickmeyerJust didn't make sense for it to be just you, me, and sakrecoer.21:47

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