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[11:35] <zenseidk> hello, I asked yesterday about a UI lagging issue and was adviced to add backport repos and use ubuntustudio-controls instead of Cadence and wipe ~/.pulse. I did that and everything was good. This morning, however, pulseaudio is not loading
[11:36] <zenseidk> ubuntustudio-controls is set to bridge pulseaudio via jack, but it's not visible in the connect section og QJackCtl
[12:14] <zenseidk_> I'm on 18.04 but installed KXstudio which caused some issues. I added backports and updated to newest ubuntustudio-control and removed Cadence and cleared ~/.pulse. Now my pulseaudio is not working. What to do?
[15:19] <OvenWerks> zenseidk: how do you have -controls set up? There is a checkbox for pulse and also a dropdown for choosing which outputs to connect to.
[15:19] <zenseidk> hi, I got it working  by pulseaudio -D
[15:20] <zenseidk> there was no dropdown box
[15:20] <zenseidk> pulseaudio was not running
[15:20] <OvenWerks> That would be something left over from cadence
[15:22] <OvenWerks> I will probably have to study cadence much more carefully and add something to -controls to get around whatever Falktx has done
[15:23] <OvenWerks>  the -controls applet was designed to not mess with any of the normal working of things so that it could be turned off or removed without leaving wierdness behind
[15:25] <OvenWerks> Cadence chooses instead to change the user whole audio configuration in the various user config files
[15:25] <OvenWerks> Because they are user config files, removing the package does not fully fix this.
[15:50] <OvenWerks> zenseidk: do you have a folder ~/.config/Cadence/ ?
[15:50] <zenseidk> yes
[15:52] <OvenWerks> hmm, how about ~/.config/autostart/<something about cadence>
[15:55] <zenseidk> I have no autostart folder
[15:56] <OvenWerks> No I see he istalls it in /etc/xdg/autostart
[15:56] <OvenWerks> the package removal shouold deal with that ok.
[15:57] <zenseidk> there is a cadence.sessions-start.desktop
[15:57] <zenseidk> in /etc/xdg/autostart
[15:58] <OvenWerks> Odd uninstall removes that
[15:59] <OvenWerks> The package remove may not I guess
[15:59] <zenseidk> should I remove it?
[16:00] <OvenWerks> if you have removed cadence, yes.
[16:01] <zenseidk> in config/Cadence there are a few .conf files for catia and claudia as well, I can remove the candence file from this folder, I assume?
[16:01] <OvenWerks> You can yes
[16:02] <zenseidk> I'll liave the other config files
[16:02] <zenseidk> there's also a JackSettings
[16:02] <zenseidk> .conf
[16:03] <OvenWerks> If the cadence binaries are gone that _shouldn't matter
[16:03] <zenseidk> ok
[16:03] <zenseidk> thanks
[16:07] <zenseidk> what does ubuntustudio use for vst plugins? like catia
[16:08] <OvenWerks> Carla maybe?
[16:08] <zenseidk> sorry, yes carla
[16:08] <Eickmeyer> Catia is merely a patchbay. Carla is in the backports ppa.
[16:08] <Eickmeyer> Or, will be.
[16:08] <OvenWerks> We are working hard to add Carla
[16:08] <zenseidk> but is there an alternative? since it's not part of the clean install
[16:09] <Eickmeyer> It will be part of the clean install.
[16:09] <OvenWerks> It will be, Carla runs on it's own. It does not affect the system.
[16:09]  * Eickmeyer goes back to interview prep
[16:09] <OvenWerks> Cadence is the only real problem we have with kxstudio.
[16:09] <zenseidk> okay, in 19.04?
[16:10] <zenseidk> that should be fixanle then
[16:10] <zenseidk> fixable
[16:10] <OvenWerks> not sure, but it will be available anything 18.04 and up from the backport PPA
[16:10] <zenseidk> niccccee
[16:11] <OvenWerks> The ubuntustudio-installer package is being updated to be able to add the backports PPA (or remove it)
[16:14] <OvenWerks> kxstudio is a nice product and Falktx has spent a lot of time on it. However, cadence is more "intrusive" than it needs to be so we are working on making ubuntustudio-controls to be a reasonable replacement for cadance
[16:21] <OvenWerks> zenseidk: the ~/.pulse/ directory gets created (recreated) at every session start when cadence is alive. so now that you have removed the autostart you may need to remove the ~/.pulse directory again...
[16:22] <zenseidk> all right, I'll do that before I reboot next time
[16:23] <zenseidk> I have audio working, I just used "pulseaudio -D"
[16:23] <zenseidk> but pulseaudio should start automatically
[16:23] <OvenWerks> if you haven't rebooted since you removed the cadence package, that may be why you had to do the pulseaudio -D
[16:24] <OvenWerks> the files that cadence puts in ~/.pulse specifically turn off the pulse autostart ...
[16:25] <OvenWerks> Cadence then starts pulse only if configured to.
[22:25] <hangar18> is there a terminal command to see how much ram's installed in a computer?
[22:26] <hangar18> I think I know how much I've got in this DAW but I just want to check again to verify.
[22:26] <hangar18> without having to open up the case
[22:29] <hangar18> nm, i got it. 'free -m'
[22:42] <TurBoss> hangar18:
[22:42] <TurBoss> cat /proc/meminfo
[23:24] <krytarik> !away | hangar18closed: For the second time now, and after more redundant idle nick flipping
[23:34] <Eickmeyer> hangar18closed: I would listen to him if I were you.