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-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL68fa86cf7048: fix mangled date and time checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL68fa86cf704802:51
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc81750a80153: Major reword of changing time] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc81750a8015302:55
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL13b52f64cef2: Properly style RTC is in local time checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL13b52f64cef203:09
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdf447bb68aed: Properly label timezone tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdf447bb68aed03:14
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9a9042465f09: Add cancel button to date and time] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9a9042465f0903:29
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL0bc797834762: Label open button in libreoffice impress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL0bc79783476203:54
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL140d78a55fe8: Add how to sort slides in slidesorter mode] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL140d78a55fe804:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6dab92636b75: Style keyboard shortcuts of loimpress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6dab92636b7504:11
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL40824c1d98bf: Add loimpresss toggle bullets] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL40824c1d98bf04:20
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL691ac19e2f3f: Add loimpress bulleted list] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL691ac19e2f3f04:33
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe2dcf5111bbe: Add paste unformatted text] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe2dcf5111bbe04:46
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL425f30b96dd3: Add menu for paste unformatted text] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL425f30b96dd305:11
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl @tsimonq2 we should include qapt-deb-installer for deb packages13:51
lubot<HMollerCl> it's already in the repositories13:52
lubot<tsimonq2> Ok14:14
lubot<HMollerCl> after that we should change the mimeapp list14:30
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [after that we should change the mimeapp list], Noted.16:02
lubot<tsimonq2> Cool16:02
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [Noted.], 👍16:03
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3e9eb7554743: Add screenshot for images in loimpress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3e9eb755474318:48
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe4c20b8822fe: Add images bullet point to loimpress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe4c20b8822fe19:05
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe88b4d792338: Add changing line spacing to libreoffice_impress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe88b4d79233819:12
lubot<teward001> @HMollerCl i believe you wanted to relay something here of some importance regarding LibreOffice?  :P19:22
wxl@HMollerCl re: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122752 but isn't that going to mean bad looking UX? or am i confused?19:23
ubot93bugs.documentfoundation.org bug 122752 in LibreOffice "gtk3_kde5/kde5: save file dialog doesn't add file extension and misses custom controls when using LXQt" [Minor, Resolved: Fixed]19:23
lubot<HMollerCl> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12275219:25
lubot<HMollerCl> Yes, filepicker or file save dialog19:25
lubot<HMollerCl> Only that is affected19:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL18c66fe35b7f: Add increase/decrease paragraph spacing] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL18c66fe35b7f19:26
lubot<HMollerCl> The problem is that kde5 file save dialog is incomplete in non-plasma, it doesn't add file extension and other small things19:26
lubot<HMollerCl> Gtk3 works ok19:27
wxldidn't that bug say they'd be using qt5 for non-plasma?19:28
wxloic nevermind it's "not really usable"19:29
lubot<HMollerCl> Yes, it's buggy19:30
wxlok well i guess we need to watch the progress of qt5 then. sigh.19:31
lynorianWith 19.04 coming out I will need to figure out how to do mutliple versions of the manual19:31
wxlthere's a ticket for that. it's going to take some custom work19:32
wxlla19:33
wxloops19:33
lubot<tsimonq2> ECHAAAN19:33
wxlnope19:33
wxlyou ECHAN'd the wrong chan XD19:34
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> you ECHAN'd the wrong chan XD], XD19:34
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL070f12d014d2: Add menu way to insert image] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL070f12d014d219:40
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> ok well i guess we need to watch the progress of qt5 then. sigh.], Yes, and adjust seed repository accordingly (add/leave lo-gtk3 remove lo-kde5). Btw I uploaded a change to seed https://phab.lubuntu.me/D58 to add qapt-deb-installer19:42
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] added qapt-deb-installer: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D5819:42
wxli saw, briefly.. busy weekend for me (swim meet)19:42
lubot<HMollerCl> Should I wait for his approval before making the lo changes? Or I can do it now?19:44
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2ed64a94a8dd: Add 1.5 line spacing and how to get back to single line spacing] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2ed64a94a8dd19:46
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe9312fe20ff6: Fix warning] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe9312fe20ff620:08
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL62c32f6885a0: Add libreoffice impress format --> character screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL62c32f6885a020:59
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5a516752f7d0: Add print to libreoffice math] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5a516752f7d021:05
wxlhey can anyone check bug 1799855 and see if they also get the same results as Chris, with the 6 packages changed? his results are a little bit weird because of his mirror requirements and i want to double check.21:31
ubot93Bug 1799855 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Cosmic) "distribution upgrade bug - upgrading to 18.10" [Undecided, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179985521:31
lubot<kc2bez> I sent you a message over the weekend. I can dig it up when I get home.21:33
wxloh yeah i was kind of half paying attention this weekend21:33
wxlif you have any results, even if they're confusing, i'd post them on the bug report21:33
wxlhelps when everything is in the same place XD21:33
lubot<kc2bez> Yeah on my phone right now. I have it on my desktop at home.21:34
wxlno prob.21:34
lubot<kc2bez> The only weird thing I remember was the onscreen keyboard was present on the sddm login.21:35
wxloh thta's right21:36
wxlyou're using english and all that?21:36
wxlstandard keyboard layout?21:36
lubot<kc2bez> Yes I am.21:36
wxli've seen that pop up occassionally in the past (with lxde) and i've never been able to reproduce so i don't know :/21:37
lubot<kc2bez> America/New York21:37
wxldid you happen to capture the results of the process? i'm really curious about the number of packages changed21:37
lubot<kc2bez> Not sure what I have, I can pull the log.21:38
lubot<kc2bez> Still have the VM.21:38
wxlk. stick it on the bug report21:38
lubot<kc2bez> Will do.21:38
wxlthx :)21:38
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I was just wondering why does lubuntu has featherpad as default text editor and not gedit? I the later one is more popular and many users would love to have a familiar app in lubuntu. Also, leafpad was also nice why changed from it?21:56
wxlbecause it requires gtk libs21:57
wxlin both cases21:57
wxlremember, lx*qt*21:57
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> because it requires gtk libs], 👍🏻21:57
lubot<HMollerCl> I personally prefer featherpad over gedit.21:58
wxli really like kate, but i really don't use graphical text editors21:58
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> in both cases], And so does sublime i guess. But you anyway can't put it coz license issues21:58
wxlsublime is yucky XD21:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> i really like kate, but i really don't use graphical text editors], I use sublime mostly but if in a hurry then nano.21:59
wxloh god don't get me started on nano21:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> sublime is yucky XD], Sublime is louuuvv!!21:59
wxlbut to each their own :)21:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> but to each their own :)], Yup! Agreed.21:59
lubot<kc2bez> For graphical editors Kate is pretty nice. I typically use vim because it is everywhere and comfy at this point.22:01
wxl^^^22:01
wxlyou can ssh anywhere and use vim22:01
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> For me nano is for small edits and stuff. I use sublime when I write long stuff. And as it also keeps files open across restarts, I keep a running file called random.txt and put in all my ideas, to-dos, etc.22:01
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> you can ssh anywhere and use vim], I can't exit vim 😂😂22:02
wxlthe problem with nano is: messy interface, not very productive22:02
lubot<kc2bez> That is the meme22:02
* wxl facepalms22:02
wxllast time i used nano i had the same problem22:02
lubot<HMollerCl> For bulkier editors I prefer Geany22:02
wxlsometimes easy is.. too easy22:02
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [For bulkier editors I prefer Geany], Will surely look it up.22:02
wxli like emacs........ when working with lisp22:03
wxl(and with vim keybindings)22:03
lubot<kc2bez> It turns into muscle memory at some point.22:03
wxlbtw @The_LoudSpeaker [Esc] ZZ is your way to save and quit22:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> i like emacs........ when working with lisp], I had tried it somewhere, i don't remember exactly but didn't like it.22:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> btw @The_LoudSpeaker [Esc] ZZ is your way to save and quit], Yup! Had to Google that after trying for an hour!22:04
wxlmost real editors require some effort to get configured the way you want. i've never seen a single one that came out of the box just right422:04
wxlnext time: `man vim` XD22:04
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [Will surely look it up.], it's gtk also, but has all this things like showing all the functions on the sidebar22:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> most real editors require some effort to get configured the way you want. …], Yup! But for me sublime is almost perfect, just needs the git gutter.22:04
lubot<HMollerCl> in my redhat 6.1 days I used plain vi esc:q! and other22:05
wxlyeah.. plain vi is tough when you get used to heavily tweaked vim22:05
lubot<kc2bez> ^^22:05
wxlof course to be consistent you mean [Esc] :wq! :)22:05
lubot<HMollerCl> hahhaa, right!22:05
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> On a more bulkier side, ms vs code is also good.22:06
wxlreally the only thing to understand with vim is that there are the different modes. once you get that, the rest is kind of easy.22:06
wxlwuzzat?22:06
wxl(btw we should probably take this convo to offtopic)22:06
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> really the only thing to understand with vim is that there are the differe …], Yup! I will surely give vim a fair chance.22:06
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> (btw we should probably take this convo to offtopic)], Yup!22:07
lubot<HMollerCl> why in seeds some packages are between parenthesis () and some with exclamation sign !  before?23:34
wxlfor which?23:36
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfe8e7fe01ec1: Add symbols dialog box] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfe8e7fe01ec123:36
wxloh didn't see the word seeds23:45
wxlif i remember correctly ! is an exclude and () is a recommend23:45
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wxlyep https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/cosmic/en/man1/germinate.1.html23:49
wxl^^ @HMollerCl23:49
tewardwxl: can i bother you to help me test something?23:50
wxlprobably23:50
tewardsee secret room where I pinged you23:50

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